[Whitepill] MGTOW is BASED and the best option for men.

[ogreism]

I know that's an unpopular opinion here on .is.

10 years ago I used to watch alot of MGTOW content creators like thinking ape (stardusk), Barbarossa, colttaine, CS MGTOW, spetsnaz, and turd flinging monkey who were my favorite channels to watch back in the golden era of MGTOW, and i HIGHLY recommend watching them (alot of the content is archived), it may not help you but it could help another man you know.

I still think MGTOW is the best option for sub 7 men as relationships or marriages with women aren't worth it (in the west at least) unless if you are chad/chadlite and even that is not guaranteed, e.g robert pattinson & kristen stewart, tom brady & his ex wife.

if you are in a relationship and you are both under the age of 30, she's most likely going to monkey branch or worse straight up cheat on you so she can keep riding the CC.

And when they are in their 30s and had their fun with chad they will look for a good little betabuxx to treat like shit and to provide for her and both of their (or chad and Tyrones) children.

half of marriages end in divorce and most of the other half are miserable and in dead bedrooms, and dont get me started on family court.

and another thing to worry about is false rape or domestic violence allegations (I know men who have been sent to prison for false DV allegations).

knowing all of this why the fuck would you want to participate if you are a normie?

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

 

[PersonalityChad]

I'm MSTOW

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

mgtow.is

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

I'm MSTOW

We all are.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

if you are in a relationship

just ban this retard GrAY

 

[Wrath]

agreed

 

[Moth Knight]

You're not going your own way, you were forced your own way. This wasn't your choice.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

Men sent their own way

 

[Caichan]

Desire brings pain

 

[BricABrac]

I agree.

It sucks to realize that even if you got a relationship it would be worse than being single, but I think that is the case for the majority of men. It makes being permavirgin a bit more tolerable at least, and life goes on while you see other men's life go up in flames.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Agreed on applying many of the lessons that MGTOWs have with women. Most here could be betabux people pleasers if they wanted to. They show what's likely to happen if you go that route.

The only big negative is that they're MSTOW and usually refuse to accept that.

 

[TooSomething]

You're not going your own way, you were forced your own way. This wasn't your choice.

 

[Moth Knight]

Most here could be betabux people pleasers if they wanted to.

Without doubt, people here vastly overestimate the number of trucels in the world, there are almost none. To be a trucel, you'd have to be horrifically disfigured.

 

[xxectrapieces]

I'm MSTOW

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

It’s pretty funny when they think that foids care in the slightest about their supposed withdrawal, and then actively do anything to prove that delusion. Still, I entirely agree—it is far better to be sent your own way than be a shitsimp with no self respect.

 

[autisticsoy]

Nah as the others say they never chose to go their own way at all. Which is why a lot of their shit when I was in high-school was delusional crap about them withdrawing affecting women when practically nearly all of them werent the type of man women would give a shit about. For women to care would be for the Chad's to withdraw and we know that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Rapistcel2]

I'm MSTOW

 

[Codependency]

I know that's an unpopular opinion here on .is.

10 years ago I used to watch alot of MGTOW content creators like thinking ape (stardusk), Barbarossa, colttaine, CS MGTOW, spetsnaz, and turd flinging monkey who were my favorite channels to watch back in the golden era of MGTOW, and i HIGHLY recommend watching them (alot of the content is archived), it may not help you but it could help another man you know.

I still think MGTOW is the best option for sub 7 men as relationships or marriages with women aren't worth it (in the west at least) unless if you are chad/chadlite and even that is not guaranteed, e.g robert pattinson & kristen stewart, tom brady & his ex wife.

if you are in a relationship and you are both under the age of 30, she's most likely going to monkey branch or worse straight up cheat on you so she can keep riding the CC.

And when they are in their 30s and had their fun with chad they will look for a good little betabuxx to treat like shit and to provide for her and both of their (or chad and Tyrones) children.

half of marriages end in divorce and most of the other half are miserable and in dead bedrooms, and dont get me started on family court.

and another thing to worry about is false rape or domestic violence allegations (I know men who have been sent to prison for false DV allegations).

knowing all of this why the fuck would you want to participate if you are a normie?

Hammerhand is the best channel for this hands down.

MGTOW is a solid solution or response to the problem but most of these fucking idiots hate us and are counterproductive in that way as men would get much farther united but you can’t tell these morons anything.

Also save for divorcees MGTOW is the wrong title as @Todd Thundercock and others regularly point out.

They are MSTOW’s.

MGTOW as a term probably started out honestly as the first term that guys could come up with to describe our frustration with women but MSTOW should have been moved to once identified if absolute truth was valued (it’s not) since it’s far more accurate as men are generally “sent” our own way by hypergamous women that only want the top 1% of men.

MGTOW is clung to at this point only because it saves face ie meaning self respect as it puts out the (false) idea that it’s adherents are still romantically viable (have SMV and thus dating market value and leverage) and could thus get a woman still if they really wanted but they can’t.

By the time some stupid bitch or cunt leaves them if they were ever able to get one to begin with they’re fat, bald, old and out of shape and disheveled like good ol Hammerhand yet still are delusional enough (or outright liars) claiming they could still get someone if they really wanted.

Yeah right.

 

[ogreism]

I agree.

It sucks to realize that even if you got a relationship it would be worse than being single, but I think that is the case for the majority of men. It makes being permavirgin a bit more tolerable at least, and life goes on while you see other men's life go up in flames.

yeah, when I see bad relationships/marriages, it makes me grateful I'm single even if my singleness is involuntary.

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

MGTOW has always been cope, the people who are MGTOW aren't the ones who had a choice in the matter anyways.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

MGTOW is clung to at this point only because it saves face ie meaning self respect as it puts out the (false) idea that it’s adherents are still romantically viable (have SMV and thus dating market value and leverage) and could thus get a woman still if they really wanted but they can’t.

By the time some stupid bitch or cunt leaves them if they were ever able to get one to begin with they’re fat, bald, old and out of shape and disheveled like good ol Hammerhand yet still are delusional enough (or outright liars) claiming they could still get someone if they really wanted.

The logic with copers like Hammerhand is obviously lacking and frustrating.

They insinuate women still flirt with them and they still fuck. Which I'm sure some do. But, it's with fat single mothers or damaged disheveled holes. So, no, they can't get with someone if they wanted.

And frustratingly, this provides examples that holes spew about patriarchy and how men can't admit weakness. Which we obviously know is bullshit manipulation by females that they will just use against us, but it further continues this stalemate which men are losing.

 

[onetwothree]

Men sent their own way

 

[ogreism]

just ban this retard GrAY

what about this post do you disagree with? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

I always saw MGTOW as normie sexhavers who got blackpilled too late.

I see the average MGTOW as a married man with children who lived the life of a normie sexhaver for all his life, then got divorced, and only realized the true female nature too late.

They're obviously not incels, but imo they're ideologically closer to us than looksmaxxers.

 

[Diddlium]

 

[God's Lonely Man]

I'm MSTOW

 

[Diddlium]

I'm MSTOW

Men Shooting Their Own Wives?

 

[endoftheskies]

I know that's an unpopular opinion here on .is.

10 years ago I used to watch alot of MGTOW content creators like thinking ape (stardusk), Barbarossa, colttaine, CS MGTOW, spetsnaz, and turd flinging monkey who were my favorite channels to watch back in the golden era of MGTOW, and i HIGHLY recommend watching them (alot of the content is archived), it may not help you but it could help another man you know.

I still think MGTOW is the best option for sub 7 men as relationships or marriages with women aren't worth it (in the west at least) unless if you are chad/chadlite and even that is not guaranteed, e.g robert pattinson & kristen stewart, tom brady & his ex wife.

if you are in a relationship and you are both under the age of 30, she's most likely going to monkey branch or worse straight up cheat on you so she can keep riding the CC.

And when they are in their 30s and had their fun with chad they will look for a good little betabuxx to treat like shit and to provide for her and both of their (or chad and Tyrones) children.

half of marriages end in divorce and most of the other half are miserable and in dead bedrooms, and dont get me started on family court.

and another thing to worry about is false rape or domestic violence allegations (I know men who have been sent to prison for false DV allegations).

knowing all of this why the fuck would you want to participate if you are a normie?

Just give up. But MGTOW is delusional ideology. There is no point to go for relationships if you understand that you will never be chosen.

 

[Blacksmith]

I always saw MGTOW as normie sexhavers who got blackpilled too late.

I see the average MGTOW as a married man with children who lived the life of a normie sexhaver for all his life, then got divorced, and only realized the true female nature too late.

They're obviously not incels, but imo they're ideologically closer to us than looksmaxxers.

Yup. Agree.
Especially getting redpilled or blackpilled too late.

 

[guitarcel]

I'm MSTOW

We ALL are brother.

I think mstow is based. Mgtow on the other hand is absolute cope.

Nah as the others say they never chose to go their own way at all. Which is why a lot of their shit when I was in high-school was delusional crap about them withdrawing affecting women when practically nearly all of them werent the type of man women would give a shit about. For women to care would be for the Chad's to withdraw and we know that ain't gonna happen.

 

[ogreism]

I always saw MGTOW as normie sexhavers who got blackpilled too late.

I see the average MGTOW as a married man with children who lived the life of a normie sexhaver for all his life, then got divorced, and only realized the true female nature too late.

I think that's the best description of an MGTOW generally speaking.

 

[Morro]

Sadly, going MTGOW is not enough.
Avoiding females won't stop them from conspiring against men. It won't stop them from hijacking politics and shaping society in their own image.
Running away has never been the solution.
The only way to end systemic oppression is for men to stand up for themselves and fight back female supremacy and misandry.

 

[cunnysseur]

Volcels are based

 

[EcstasyCel]

Mstow

 

[ogreism]

Sadly, going MTGOW is not enough.
Avoiding females won't stop them from conspiring against men. It won't stop them from hijacking politics and shaping society in their own image.
Running away has never been the solution.
The only way to end systemic oppression is for men to stand up for themselves and fight back female supremacy and misandry.

I just don't think the majority of men are going to work together to take back our rights. Sadly, running away is the best option for most men currently.

 

[Morro]

I just don't think the majority of men are going to work together to take back our rights. Sadly, running away is the best option for most men currently.

You have to try; there is no other solution. Feminism will not magically disappear on its own. Running away only buys time and, at best, make your life a little safer. But it will not fix systemic misandry or prevent females from accentuating our oppression further.

 

[SatanicDark83]

MGTOW is based if you actually have the choice. If you don’t, like us it’s just a nice coping method. I like to tell myself i’m mgtow so i don’t feel like a complete loser. It works.

 

[ogreism]

You have to try; there is no other solution. Feminism will not magically disappear on its own. Running away only buys time and, at best, make your life a little safer. But it will not fix systemic misandry or prevent females from accentuating our oppression further.

MRA's have been trying to fight for men's right for years to no avail, mgtow is the only rational decision for most men.

IT'S OVER.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

You are correct, most blackpillers would agree to becoming a slave if it got them pussy

 

[Morro]

MRA's have been trying to fight for men's right for years to no avail, mgtow is the only rational decision for most men.

IT'S OVER.

MRAs are controlled oppositions, they don't seek equality, they are just trying to "make peace" with feminists.
Again, running away will not stop anything. There is nothing rationnal in doing nothing.
Your obsession with promoting passivity and preventing men from fighting back is extremely suspicious.
You are doing the work of feminists

 

[Morro]

You are correct, most blackpillers would agree to becoming a slave if it got them pussy

And yet, they still don't get any pussy.

To be honest, if you decide to give up your dignity for pussy, you didn't deserve any of them to begin with.

 

[ogreism]

MRAs are controlled oppositions, they don't seek equality, they are just trying to "make peace" with feminists.
Again, running away will not stop anything. There is nothing rationnal in doing nothing.
Your obsession with promoting passivity and preventing men from fighting back is extremely suspicious.
You are doing the work of feminists

I suppose you can both go your own way and fight for men's rights.

would you agree?

 

[wasted12years]

MGTOWs are men who got dumped by their GF/wife and then complained about it online so they actually became incels who got pussy at one point in their life.

 

[Dregster]

You're not going your own way, you were forced your own way. This wasn't your choice.

That's what I try to tell graycels when they come here claiming to be mgtow

@barcacel was a special case of Retard, who was too stupid to make money, claimed to be mgtow while being some 5'4" subhuman spaniard with a patchy beard and had the delusions in thinking a sexbot was going to save his sexual urges


The dude didn't realize that he won't be able to afford any of the high end bots that he dreams for when they do come out, because too stupid/lazy to want to make money

 

[Dregster]

You're not going your own way, you were forced your own way. This wasn't your choice.

Even here he still thinks he isnt incel

I'm not an incel, that's why i'll leave this site. Just give me a second, i want to download some of my incels.is threads and then i'll see if this site let's me delete my account, i'll move to neets.me.

 

[ogreism]

incels who got pussy

What?

 

[Morro]

I suppose you can both go your own way and fight for men's rights.

would you agree?

Of course, going your own way is a basic survival instinct.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Sadly, going MTGOW is not enough.
Avoiding females won't stop them from conspiring against men. It won't stop them from hijacking politics and shaping society in their own image.
Running away has never been the solution.
The only way to end systemic oppression is for men to stand up for themselves and fight back female supremacy and misandry.

It comes down to men need to have value again and I don't have an answer for that.

 

[Morro]

It comes down to men need to have value again and I don't have an answer for that.

It will be a long and arduous battle, but it's necessary. The bare minimum for now is online activism.

1. Adopt a pro-male mindset. Essentially, men should always come first.
2. Unapologetically spread awareness of men's issues and problems whenever you have the opportunity.
3. Create contents like videos or just memes in the hope of reaching as many people as possible.
4. Create comunities where men can organize and directly fight back against misandry, for example through mass reporting or coordinated raidings.