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SuicideFuel Math thread problem (official)

Man this thread reminded me of how fucking much I hate functions
 
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Copexodius Maximus
Copexodius Maximus
Copexodius Maximus
 
mfw the last few posts in the math thread haven't been math :feelsbadman:
 
We should start posting israel vs Palestine here so we can make this thread more relevant:feelshehe:
Then I guess I'll take it upon myself to save the math thread from such base brutality.
 
Let a,b,c be rational numbers. Prove that a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) is rational if and only if a = b = c = 0.

Bonus (much harder): Let a,b,c,d be rational numbers. Prove that a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) + d*sqrt(7) is rational if and only if a = b = c = d = 0.
 
(heigthpill + dickpill)*racepill = dogpill
 
Let a,b,c be rational numbers. Prove that a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) is rational if and only if a = b = c = 0.
Feels like I am reading this wrong. Because the condition seems to be false. Just substitute 25 for a, 125 for b and 32 for c
 
Feels like I am reading this wrong. Because the condition seems to be false. Just substitute 25 for a, 125 for b and 32 for c
No, that would only work if it was sqrt(a) + root(b,3) + root(c,5) was the task.
 
No, that would only work if it was sqrt(a) + root(b,3) + root(c,5) was the task.
Well, then I have no idea what he's talking about

Edit: oh now i get it
 
You might have learned the proof that sqrt(2) is not rational. I guess this is essentially a generalization of that, but I'm too lazy to actually try
 
You might have learned the proof that sqrt(2) is not rational. I guess this is essentially a generalization of that
Yep. To use the language of linear algebra, it's indeed well-known that {1, sqrt(2)} is linearly independent over the rational numbers. I'm essentially positing that {1, sqrt(2), sqrt(3), sqrt(5)} (even with sqrt(7) adjoined in the bonus) is linearly independent over the rationals as well.
 
Let a,b,c be rational numbers. Prove that a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) is rational if and only if a = b = c = 0.

Bonus (much harder): Let a,b,c,d be rational numbers. Prove that a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) + d*sqrt(7) is rational if and only if a = b = c = d = 0.
can you say that since
a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3)
is rational iff a = b = 0, ik i have to prove the smaller iff statements separately but not bothered to write it out rn
and
b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5)
is rational iff b = c = 0
then the sum -
a*sqrt(2) + 2b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) + (-b*sqrt(3)) (-do this proof separate)
is also rational iff
a = b = c = 0

Then prove the converse statement by substituting 0 into
a*sqrt(2) + b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5)
and finding 0 is rational


is this a legit way to do it?
 
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is this a legit way to do it?
Unfortunately, I don't think so. The problem I see is with the following step:
then the sum -
a*sqrt(2) + 2b*sqrt(3) + c*sqrt(5) + (-b*sqrt(3)) (-do this proof separate)
is also rational iff
a = b = c = 0
In general, the sum of two irrational numbers can be rational (e.g., add π to 4 - π). I wouldn't know how the prove the aforementioned step (from the smaller cases). If you have an idea, however, I'd love to hear it.
 
Post all math related problems and solutions here. Don't cheat.

First problem: If the coefficients of x³ and x^4 in the expansion of (1+ ax+ bx² ) (1−2x) ^18 in powers of x are both zero, then (a, b) is equal to?
This reminds me of when i used to send my homework into facebook groups in highschool and the people on there did if for free and for no reason
 
This reminds me of when i used to send my homework into facebook groups in highschool and the people on there did if for free and for no reason
They just wanted to brag about knowing the subject
 
If we have a set of cases where it claims the foid enjoyed getting raped, it would be an uncountable set.
 
Prove that a topology on the set where foids claimed they didn't enjoy getting raped doesn't exist?
 
I have always been terrible in maths
 
Let A be an n by n matrix satisfying A^3 = 0. Prove that rank(A^2) ≤ n/2.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think so. The problem I see is with the following step:

In general, the sum of two irrational numbers can be rational (e.g., add π to 4 - π). I wouldn't know how the prove the aforementioned step (from the smaller cases). If you have an idea, however, I'd love to hear it.
The smallest case is where a + b in Q implies at least a or b is in P. The trivial case, of course, is where a or b is 0. For all a + b in P where a or b > 0 and a or b in Q, a or b must be zero or the additive inverse.

Something something, proof by contradiction or exercise left for the reader. □
 
I should start posting my mathematical
discoveries here
 
The smallest case is where a + b in Q implies at least a or b is in P. The trivial case, of course, is where a or b is 0. For all a + b in P where a or b > 0 and a or b in Q, a or b must be zero or the additive inverse.

Something something, proof by contradiction or exercise left for the reader. □
Quod Erat Demonstrandum? More like Qat Erat Demonstrandum.
 
h = g^2 + z / 1000 * y
 
PLEASE, post a math problem that is simple enough for me to solve to feel smart BUT not too hard that I can't solve it.
 
PLEASE, post a math problem that is simple enough for me to solve to feel smart BUT not too hard that I can't solve it.
What's your level?
 
I'm not sure, slightly higher than an average normie who barely knows math.
High school level math then? How about this problem:

Find the three roots of 4x^3 - 3x = 1/sqrt(2). Hint: try substituting x = cos(q) and use trig identities.
 
@Grim_Reaper @CountBleck
Since A^3 = 0, then im(A^2) is a subset of ker(A^2) which is a subset of ker(A). Let k be the dimension of im(A^2) and let n-k be the dimension of ker(A^2). Then dim(im(A^2)) ≤ dim(ker(A^2)) so k ≤ n - k which implies k ≤ n/2 so rank(A^2) ≤ n/2
 
Fucking linear algebra.
 
The only way for this to be true is if A^2 = 0, which is not necessarily the case. Consider for example a 3 by 3 Jordan block with 0 along the diagonal.
Would it be safe to assume that rank(A^2) ≤ rank(A), so rank (A^2) + rank(A) ≤ rank(A^2*A) + n -> rank(A^2) + rank(A) ≤ n so rank(A^2) ≤ n/2?
 
Would it be safe to assume that rank(A^2) ≤ rank(A), so rank (A^2) + rank(A) ≤ rank(A^2*A) + n -> rank(A^2) + rank(A) ≤ n so rank(A^2) ≤ n/2?
Yes, that'd be correct. The rank of a matrix is the dimension of its image, so the obvious im(A^2) ⊆ im(A) implies that rank(A^2) ≤ rank(A). Nicely done.
 
If linear algebra was a girl, I'd so fuck her.
If lin alg was a girl, I'd hate fuck her. I loved the abstract algebra and group theory that came later, but lin alg can go to hell.
 
If lin alg was a girl, I'd hate fuck her. I loved the abstract algebra and group theory that came later, but lin alg can go to hell.
If you like group theory but hate linear algebra, how do you feel about representation theory?
 
If you like group theory but hate linear algebra, how do you feel about representation theory?
I haven't looked into it. It's covered in graduate algebra courses that I didn't take.
 
If lin alg was a girl, I'd hate fuck her. I loved the abstract algebra and group theory that came later, but lin alg can go to hell.
Linear algebra would be a bratty teen slut while group theory would be a roastie.
 
Linear algebra would be a bratty teen slut while group theory would be a roastie.
Group theory would be the porn milf with the body of a 25 year old. Accurate representation (KEK) of lin alg, tbh.
 

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