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Marxism #7 Commodity Fetishism and Species Being

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Some context : Alienation

Commodity Fetishism is the tendency of humans to assign value to commodities. We think of commodities as something valuable, i.e. as things that have a "value" or "worth". The issue is that this "value" cannot be determined or divined by analysing the commodity itself, and yet we are sure that a car is more valuable than a cake. If this "value" is not coming from the commodity then it must come from somewhere else.

For example- consider how you think that an iPhone is valuable because you had to pay $1000 for it. But that $1000 figure cannot be derived by analysing the actual iPhone. Therefore it's coming from elsewhere. YET in our minds the value is somehow inherent to the iPhone itself. It's the iPhone that is valuable. That's Commodity Fetishism. This tendency can be tied to the alienation a consumer experiences from the social structures and labour that actually creates the commodity. So instead of valuing the things where the value actually comes from, we start valuing the commodity itself, as if it's a completely isolated/alienated entity with inherent value that magically appeared on the market shelf.

Species Being can be thought of as the mode of existence of a species. A dolphin's "being" or it's sheer "dolphinness" manifests itself when a dolphin does dolphin stuff. Like swimming in the ocean and catching fish. I.e. the natural processes it's body is designed for. Similarly an eagle's species being is flying in the sky and using its binocular vision to catch terrestrial prey. It's the state of being for an animal. Can an eagle living in a cage or a dolphin not being able to hunt in the open ocean, living a life that it is supposed to live?

According to Marx, the species being of humans is work that is achieved socially. We work alongside other humans, using tools, to produce things that create and sustain our living. We create our mode of life through that work, from hunter gatherer to industrial society. But under modern capitalism, the alienated worker is no longer able to experience his species being, as his work and the resulting commodity are alienated from him. In that respect he is no different from a caged Eagle that cannot fly. He is not living a complete human life because the work is not a manefestation of his own species being.
 
Some of the works I have read:
Dialectical and historical materialism by Stalin
The three sources and three component parts of Marxism
Karl Marx: A Brief Biographical Sketch With an Exposition of Marxism
The state and revolution
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
Principles of communism
Communist manifesto
On Contradiction
The Right of Nations to Self-Determination
Critical Remarks on the National Question
The National Question and the Class Struggle by Borochov
Materialism and Empirio-criticism.
 
Some of the works I have read:
Dialectical and historical materialism by Stalin
The three sources and three component parts of Marxism
Karl Marx: A Brief Biographical Sketch With an Exposition of Marxism
The state and revolution
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
Principles of communism
Communist manifesto
On Contradiction
The Right of Nations to Self-Determination
Critical Remarks on the National Question
The National Question and the Class Struggle by Borochov
Materialism and Empirio-criticism.
I haven't read anything. I want to but can't find the willpower:forcedsmile:
 
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Some of the works I have read:
Dialectical and historical materialism by Stalin
The three sources and three component parts of Marxism
Karl Marx: A Brief Biographical Sketch With an Exposition of Marxism
The state and revolution
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
Principles of communism
Communist manifesto
On Contradiction
The Right of Nations to Self-Determination
Critical Remarks on the National Question
The National Question and the Class Struggle by Borochov
Materialism and Empirio-criticism.
You should add Black Shirts and Reds by Parentii
 
Some context : Alienation

Commodity Fetishism is the tendency of humans to assign value to commodities. We think of commodities as something valuable, i.e. as things that have a "value" or "worth". The issue is that this "value" cannot be determined or divined by analysing the commodity itself, and yet we are sure that a car is more valuable than a cake. If this "value" is not coming from the commodity then it must come from somewhere else.

For example- consider how you think that an iPhone is valuable because you had to pay $1000 for it. But that $1000 figure cannot be derived by analysing the actual iPhone. Therefore it's coming from elsewhere. YET in our minds the value is somehow inherent to the iPhone itself. It's the iPhone that is valuable. That's Commodity Fetishism. This tendency can be tied to the alienation a consumer experiences from the social structures and labour that actually creates the commodity. So instead of valuing the things where the value actually comes from, we start valuing the commodity itself, as if it's a completely isolated/alienated entity with inherent value that magically appeared on the market shelf.

Species Being can be thought of as the mode of existence of a species. A dolphin's "being" or it's sheer "dolphinness" manifests itself when a dolphin does dolphin stuff. Like swimming in the ocean and catching fish. I.e. the natural processes it's body is designed for. Similarly an eagle's species being is flying in the sky and using its binocular vision to catch terrestrial prey. It's the state of being for an animal. Can an eagle living in a cage or a dolphin not being able to hunt in the open ocean, living a life that it is supposed to live?

According to Marx, the species being of humans is work that is achieved socially. We work alongside other humans, using tools, to produce things that create and sustain our living. We create our mode of life through that work, from hunter gatherer to industrial society. But under modern capitalism, the alienated worker is no longer able to experience his species being, as his work and the resulting commodity are alienated from him. In that respect he is no different from a caged Eagle that cannot fly. He is not living a complete human life because the work is not a manefestation of his own species being.
Marxism is Satanism and pure evil that destroys the soul of any nation.
 
Marxism is Satanism and pure evil that destroys the soul of any nation.
The soul of many a nation is already corrupted. It doesn't need Marxism to bring down the whole farce
 
The soul of many a nation is already corrupted. It doesn't need Marxism to bring down the whole farce
Yes, man, when the ruling communist system literally gives you benefits in exchange for denouncing your mother, father, neighbor, or relative to the NKVD, it certainly doesn't break society. During Stalin's rule, there were 4 million denunciations in the USSR. And the boy who denounced his father and was executed was made a national hero, known as Pavlik Morozov.
 
Yes, man, when the ruling communist system literally gives you benefits in exchange for denouncing your mother, father, neighbor, or relative to the NKVD, it certainly doesn't break society. During Stalin's rule, there were 4 million denunciations in the USSR. And the boy who denounced his father and was executed was made a national hero, known as Pavlik Morozov.
Good thing then that people have free will and can chose to not follow the Stalinistic model, which was denounced by his very successors.

As for breaking society, you can read on Alienation to figure out how Capitalism is already doing a great job at that. It's funny hearing this from people coming from cultures who can't even name their first cousins
 
Good thing then that people have free will and can chose to not follow the Stalinistic model, which was denounced by his very successors.

As for breaking society, you can read on Alienation to figure out how Capitalism is already doing a great job at that. It's funny hearing this from people coming from cultures who can't even name their first cousins
Yes, man, I'm from a people and a country that still suffers from the consequences of communism. Where the prison culture literally dominates the provinces, because millions of people went through the Gulag before Khrushchev closed it.
 
Yes, man, I'm from a people and a country that still suffers from the consequences of communism. Where the prison culture literally dominates the provinces, because millions of people went through the Gulag before Khrushchev closed it.
If one policy position on national security under a single government counts as a "consequence of communism" then I may have a lot more to say about what my people went through as a "consequence of capitalism". Prisons do not even begin to cover it.

There's also this under current of people who were not even born during Soviet era spouting McCarthyism. Are you sure the cultural failings you speak of are not the failures of the system that exists right now? Coming from a people who were born long after the last gulag closed?
 
If one policy position on national security under a single government counts as a "consequence of communism" then I may have a lot more to say about what my people went through as a "consequence of capitalism". Prisons do not even begin to cover it.

There's also this under current of people who were not even born during Soviet era spouting McCarthyism. Are you sure the cultural failings you speak of are not the failures of the system that exists right now? Coming from a people who were born long after the last gulag closed?
Yes, man, because the Gulag culture has survived. It's a system of prison castes, where some inmates beat and humiliate others to prevent them from banding together and staging uprisings.
There is such a thing as generational trauma. The Russians and other peoples of the USSR survived it. Under Stalin, the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and other intelligentsia were simply exterminated.
The same is true of the Gulag system, which is still spoken in places like the Irkutsk region and the Trans-Baikal Territory.
 
Yes, man, because the Gulag culture has survived. It's a system of prison castes, where some inmates beat and humiliate others to prevent them from banding together and staging uprisings.
There is such a thing as generational trauma. The Russians and other peoples of the USSR survived it. Under Stalin, the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and other intelligentsia were simply exterminated.
The same is true of the Gulag system, which is still spoken in places like the Irkutsk region and the Trans-Baikal Territory.
Gulags were unfortunate, I don't know what else there is to say about it. Marx wouldn't approve of that given his views.
 

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