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Looks matter as much in friendship than in sexual relationships.

Kanga Caveman

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Think about it, most friend groups are looksmatched, that's because friendship at it's root is about war bands, you don't want to be friends with a weak underdeveloped boy because you're wired to Think that will get You killed. Incel friend groups hate eachother but they must stick togheter since everyone rejected them.
 
I dont hate my incel bros but true
 
@wereq @Xul @AtrociousCitizen
 
They definitely matter, but I don't think it's to the same extent.
 
men are snakes and the sub5 of the friend group is always the punching bag.
 
I've had some good looking friends, though a disproportionately high percent of my friends were sub5s for sure.

But having a wide variety of friends as far as looks level goes is part of what blackpilled me. Seeing how easy the good looking guys attracted women and seeing how the sub5s were incels like I was basically confirmed the blackpill. The biggest variable by a VERY wide margin when it came to their success (or lack thereof) with women was facial attractiveness. Not muscles. Not social skills. Not clothes. Not NT. Not "game" or whatever. And more controversially (from this forum's perspective) not even height and race came close (though there seemed to be SOME correlation with those two, but it wasn't as blatantly obvious as the correlation with facial attractiveness).

I only had 4 friends my entire life that were as ugly as I was, and all 4 were truecel.
 
goodlooking people have such an easier time making friends
like people actually go up to them, its not mandatory for them to go up to others
 
I've had some good looking friends, though a disproportionately high percent of my friends were sub5s for sure.

But having a wide variety of friends as far as looks level goes is part of what blackpilled me. Seeing how easy the good looking guys attracted women and seeing how the sub5s were incels like I was basically confirmed the blackpill. The biggest variable by a VERY wide margin when it came to their success (or lack thereof) with women was facial attractiveness. Not muscles. Not social skills. Not clothes. Not NT. Not "game" or whatever. And more controversially (from this forum's perspective) not even height and race came close (though there seemed to be SOME correlation with those two, but it wasn't as blatantly obvious as the correlation with facial attractiveness).

I only had 4 friends my entire life that were as ugly as I was, and all 4 were truecel.
Height is like 45% but unless under you're 5'10 you can have a good life as high htn+
 
yeah but the problem is that incel friend groups are very volatile, and don't seem to last
one reason is that no one wants to be there anyway
another is that most "incels" will do everything to ascend to normie status, rejecting the others after even the most symbolic success to fit in with normies
i also saw an explicit desire for people to just get away, like if some guy is without a GF for a while, he might hang out with the incels temporarily, commiserate with them about how shitty women are, but he is going to leave eventually and try to get a GF anyway
 
Looks matter in everything.
 
It may have a association factor as well, as normies and good looking guys might stay away from incels, in fearing that if they befriend an incel or ugly guy then it would scare any foid within their vicinity.
 

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