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I think I would have been better off living in a rural part of the country.

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I'll start this off by saying I'm well aware of the fact that as a sub5 ogre, I would be truecel anywhere. But I think in other aspects of life, my life would have been better had I lived in a rural part of the country.

My whole life I have lived in big cities or lower class suburbs thereof. My adult life has mostly been in big cities. With cities, especially big ones, there's always a huge divide between rich (+ middle class) and poor...and obviously I've always been the latter. I know wealth gaps exist to some extent everywhere, but in cities they are much more pronounced. To make matters worse, I'm always living in the worst part of the city (because it's all I can afford), but my job is usually in a middle class or upscale part of the city. So I have to live in a dangerous part of the city, and drive in bumper to bumper traffic to a neighborhood I could never ever hope to live in so I can make burgers for trust fund babies.

And by the way, I know this is common sense most of you don't need to hear, but there's some really sheltered people who don't know. But there's nothing "cool" about living in the hood. Nobody actually wants to be here. Anyone who gets their money up leaves ASAP. Some extremely sheltered upper class or suburban kids somehow think it's "cool" because of rap music videos but rappers talk about having lived in the hood (which they left the moment they got rich) the way you'd talk about surviving a war or prison. They're bragging about having survived hardship.

So cities are only nice to live in if you're in a middle or upper class neighborhood. Aside from the economic factor, the only people really thriving in cities are both in a nice neighborhood AND one of the following:

1) Hipster reddit nerds
2) Artsy fartsy cosmopolitan yuppies
3) Trust fund financebros
4) SJW political activists
5) Techbros (in select cities)

I have nothing in common with any of these people. I'm e/acc so superficially I have one thing in common with techbros, but I'm a low IQ fast food worker with no degree, I can't hang with them. That's another thing, people who thrive in cities are always well educated types. I'm WAY too low IQ and uneducated to meaningfully contribute to the topics they talk about. Long ago I was in some friend groups (usually because I was only actually close friends with one guy in the group and the rest just tolerated me) where they would talk about shit like science, philosophy, geopolitics etc. and I wouldn't understand what the fuck they were talking about. They used vocabulary I didn't understand too so it was like they were speaking another language from my perspective. Needless to say, I didn't last too long in those friend groups. Then again even in friend groups I was actually more integrated into I was often "the slow one" people had to dumb things down to.

Looking back at all of the friends i've had in my lifetime, especially within my adult life, the only people I've really connected with were men who had at least one thing wrong with them. They were either poor, sub5, low IQ, or ND. There were a few exceptions, but that was mostly it. I know it's coming off like I think I'm "too good" for those kinds of people but that's not what I'm saying and not how I feel. I'm just saying this to make a point that I just didn't culturally fit in with the average urbanite normie who thrives in the big city.

But from what I've heard, maybe rural areas are more my kind of people. More extroverted, less educated, less pretentious, and more down-to-earth simple people who don't use high level vocabulary I don't understand and have more basic interests and pleasures. I'm as basic as it gets. I don't even really have any hobbies anymore. I just work, eat, sleep, and on my days off i just sort of chill.

Maybe this is just a "grass is greener" mentality. I've spent very little time in rural areas, and whenever I've been to them, they feel pretty foreign (simply due to a lack of experience with such environments). But I was never there long enough to really get a deep understanding of the social dynamics. So maybe I'm way off about all of this. Maybe my ideas are based off of antiquated stereotypes about what rural america is like. It would be interesting to hear from people who live (or have lived) in rural areas. And even better if there's someone here who has lived in both rural and urban environments who can contrast the two.

Obviously I'm not going to quit my job, pack up and move to rural middle america. For one I'm lucky to even have a full time job and have a healthcare plan, especially as a middle aged man with no degree. So as shitty as my job is, I'm going to cling to it for dear life because it's the only reason I'm not homeless. I also know in rural areas jobs are even harder to get. A lot of people move from rural areas TO cities simply for jobs because there are none where they're from. That and I'm way too old to assimilate into what is effectively a different culture. I'm just thinking about "what could have been" if my circumstances were different, which is a common incel theme even if this post has nothing to do with inceldom.
 
I'll start this off by saying I'm well aware of the fact that as a sub5 ogre, I would be truecel anywhere. But I think in other aspects of life, my life would have been better had I lived in a rural part of the country.

My whole life I have lived in big cities or lower class suburbs thereof. My adult life has mostly been in big cities. With cities, especially big ones, there's always a huge divide between rich (+ middle class) and poor...and obviously I've always been the latter. I know wealth gaps exist to some extent everywhere, but in cities they are much more pronounced. To make matters worse, I'm always living in the worst part of the city (because it's all I can afford), but my job is usually in a middle class or upscale part of the city. So I have to live in a dangerous part of the city, and drive in bumper to bumper traffic to a neighborhood I could never ever hope to live in so I can make burgers for trust fund babies.

And by the way, I know this is common sense most of you don't need to hear, but there's some really sheltered people who don't know. But there's nothing "cool" about living in the hood. Nobody actually wants to be here. Anyone who gets their money up leaves ASAP. Some extremely sheltered upper class or suburban kids somehow think it's "cool" because of rap music videos but rappers talk about having lived in the hood (which they left the moment they got rich) the way you'd talk about surviving a war or prison. They're bragging about having survived hardship.

So cities are only nice to live in if you're in a middle or upper class neighborhood. Aside from the economic factor, the only people really thriving in cities are both in a nice neighborhood AND one of the following:

1) Hipster reddit nerds
2) Artsy fartsy cosmopolitan yuppies
3) Trust fund financebros
4) SJW political activists
5) Techbros (in select cities)

I have nothing in common with any of these people. I'm e/acc so superficially I have one thing in common with techbros, but I'm a low IQ fast food worker with no degree, I can't hang with them. That's another thing, people who thrive in cities are always well educated types. I'm WAY too low IQ and uneducated to meaningfully contribute to the topics they talk about. Long ago I was in some friend groups (usually because I was only actually close friends with one guy in the group and the rest just tolerated me) where they would talk about shit like science, philosophy, geopolitics etc. and I wouldn't understand what the fuck they were talking about. They used vocabulary I didn't understand too so it was like they were speaking another language from my perspective. Needless to say, I didn't last too long in those friend groups. Then again even in friend groups I was actually more integrated into I was often "the slow one" people had to dumb things down to.

Looking back at all of the friends i've had in my lifetime, especially within my adult life, the only people I've really connected with were men who had at least one thing wrong with them. They were either poor, sub5, low IQ, or ND. There were a few exceptions, but that was mostly it. I know it's coming off like I think I'm "too good" for those kinds of people but that's not what I'm saying and not how I feel. I'm just saying this to make a point that I just didn't culturally fit in with the average urbanite normie who thrives in the big city.

But from what I've heard, maybe rural areas are more my kind of people. More extroverted, less educated, less pretentious, and more down-to-earth simple people who don't use high level vocabulary I don't understand and have more basic interests and pleasures. I'm as basic as it gets. I don't even really have any hobbies anymore. I just work, eat, sleep, and on my days off i just sort of chill.

Maybe this is just a "grass is greener" mentality. I've spent very little time in rural areas, and whenever I've been to them, they feel pretty foreign (simply due to a lack of experience with such environments). But I was never there long enough to really get a deep understanding of the social dynamics. So maybe I'm way off about all of this. Maybe my ideas are based off of antiquated stereotypes about what rural america is like. It would be interesting to hear from people who live (or have lived) in rural areas. And even better if there's someone here who has lived in both rural and urban environments who can contrast the two.

Obviously I'm not going to quit my job, pack up and move to rural middle america. For one I'm lucky to even have a full time job and have a healthcare plan, especially as a middle aged man with no degree. So as shitty as my job is, I'm going to cling to it for dear life because it's the only reason I'm not homeless. I also know in rural areas jobs are even harder to get. A lot of people move from rural areas TO cities simply for jobs because there are none where they're from. That and I'm way too old to assimilate into what is effectively a different culture. I'm just thinking about "what could have been" if my circumstances were different, which is a common incel theme even if this post has nothing to do with inceldom.
Yes living the "I" life is misreable anywhere.
I was born and raised in NYC and lived in a very dangerous ghetto( Reading PA).
Then i moved with family to Detroit. Finally after years of scrimping and saving I bought a house in Appalachia. I'd never go back to big cities. Getting a job here in rural WV was extremlely difficult and took years of planning. I had to get hired as a civil employee in a major city and apply for a transfer.

Add actually buying a house ( mortgaged) and saving up for other expenses, it took me several years of working 7 days a week. Being a sub5 Incel in Appalachia is much easier. Here it's mostly older folks, ( especially in my town), sub5 men, obese people. So my subhumanity does not stick out nearly as much. Basically the mogging is much less severe.


There is alot of poverty here. But not much violent crime. Mostly petty theft/drugs in larger cities. Appalchia is still mercifully free of enriching diversity.Honestly if a sub5 is able to get a decent paying job of some kind or remote work I'd highly recommend it here.
 
I'll start this off by saying I'm well aware of the fact that as a sub5 ogre, I would be truecel anywhere. But I think in other aspects of life, my life would have been better had I lived in a rural part of the country.

My whole life I have lived in big cities or lower class suburbs thereof. My adult life has mostly been in big cities. With cities, especially big ones, there's always a huge divide between rich (+ middle class) and poor...and obviously I've always been the latter. I know wealth gaps exist to some extent everywhere, but in cities they are much more pronounced. To make matters worse, I'm always living in the worst part of the city (because it's all I can afford), but my job is usually in a middle class or upscale part of the city. So I have to live in a dangerous part of the city, and drive in bumper to bumper traffic to a neighborhood I could never ever hope to live in so I can make burgers for trust fund babies.

And by the way, I know this is common sense most of you don't need to hear, but there's some really sheltered people who don't know. But there's nothing "cool" about living in the hood. Nobody actually wants to be here. Anyone who gets their money up leaves ASAP. Some extremely sheltered upper class or suburban kids somehow think it's "cool" because of rap music videos but rappers talk about having lived in the hood (which they left the moment they got rich) the way you'd talk about surviving a war or prison. They're bragging about having survived hardship.

So cities are only nice to live in if you're in a middle or upper class neighborhood. Aside from the economic factor, the only people really thriving in cities are both in a nice neighborhood AND one of the following:

1) Hipster reddit nerds
2) Artsy fartsy cosmopolitan yuppies
3) Trust fund financebros
4) SJW political activists
5) Techbros (in select cities)

I have nothing in common with any of these people. I'm e/acc so superficially I have one thing in common with techbros, but I'm a low IQ fast food worker with no degree, I can't hang with them. That's another thing, people who thrive in cities are always well educated types. I'm WAY too low IQ and uneducated to meaningfully contribute to the topics they talk about. Long ago I was in some friend groups (usually because I was only actually close friends with one guy in the group and the rest just tolerated me) where they would talk about shit like science, philosophy, geopolitics etc. and I wouldn't understand what the fuck they were talking about. They used vocabulary I didn't understand too so it was like they were speaking another language from my perspective. Needless to say, I didn't last too long in those friend groups. Then again even in friend groups I was actually more integrated into I was often "the slow one" people had to dumb things down to.

Looking back at all of the friends i've had in my lifetime, especially within my adult life, the only people I've really connected with were men who had at least one thing wrong with them. They were either poor, sub5, low IQ, or ND. There were a few exceptions, but that was mostly it. I know it's coming off like I think I'm "too good" for those kinds of people but that's not what I'm saying and not how I feel. I'm just saying this to make a point that I just didn't culturally fit in with the average urbanite normie who thrives in the big city.

But from what I've heard, maybe rural areas are more my kind of people. More extroverted, less educated, less pretentious, and more down-to-earth simple people who don't use high level vocabulary I don't understand and have more basic interests and pleasures. I'm as basic as it gets. I don't even really have any hobbies anymore. I just work, eat, sleep, and on my days off i just sort of chill.

Maybe this is just a "grass is greener" mentality. I've spent very little time in rural areas, and whenever I've been to them, they feel pretty foreign (simply due to a lack of experience with such environments). But I was never there long enough to really get a deep understanding of the social dynamics. So maybe I'm way off about all of this. Maybe my ideas are based off of antiquated stereotypes about what rural america is like. It would be interesting to hear from people who live (or have lived) in rural areas. And even better if there's someone here who has lived in both rural and urban environments who can contrast the two.

Obviously I'm not going to quit my job, pack up and move to rural middle america. For one I'm lucky to even have a full time job and have a healthcare plan, especially as a middle aged man with no degree. So as shitty as my job is, I'm going to cling to it for dear life because it's the only reason I'm not homeless. I also know in rural areas jobs are even harder to get. A lot of people move from rural areas TO cities simply for jobs because there are none where they're from. That and I'm way too old to assimilate into what is effectively a different culture. I'm just thinking about "what could have been" if my circumstances were different, which is a common incel theme even if this post has nothing to do with inceldom.
You don’t seem Low IQ if you are able to articulate yourself like this but yeah I get what you are saying ,I feel like the country would be much more relaxing for someone like me who does not fit in too much .It could also help me with focusing more on healthier copes and save money.Luke Smith made a video about the financial aspect of this I think.
 
Honestly if a sub5 is able to get a decent paying job of some kind or remote work I'd highly recommend it here.
I envy anyone who's able to get remote work. No commute time and you could do your job from anywhere on earth with a stable internet connection. Not only could you buy a house in a quiet, dead rural area, but you could live like a king in the 3rd world if you wanted.

That said it seems like the golden era of remote work is behind us. In a few years most jobs that could be done remotely will just be done with AI. Hell, a lot of those jobs are getting axed even now. And if it's not AI then they can usually get someone from India to do it for a fraction of the price.
 
Rural areas are very isolating. A lot of people don't even have friends in them, and mostly only associate with family. Everything is just far apart and needs a car to get anywhere

I could never deal with the chaos and loudness of a big city, I'd be in a rage 24/7
 
i hate living in a rural area i have no friends and it takes almost 2 hours to get into a big city with train
 
Rural areas are very isolating. A lot of people don't even have friends in them, and mostly only associate with family.
From what I was told, people in rural areas are more extroverted and friendly. "Everyone knows each other" is a common thing I've heard about small rural towns. Maybe this isn't the case anymore.

Despite high population density, cities are very isolating these days. You have entire apartment complexes where nobody knows their neighbors, or they do know them and they hate them. For so many of my coworkers, especially my male coworkers, their lives seem to be just work, class, gym, internet and video games.

And I guess it makes sense that even rural areas aren't shielded from today's terminally online, hyper-introverted society.
 
Rural areas are very isolating. A lot of people don't even have friends in them, and mostly only associate with family. Everything is just far apart and needs a car to get anywhere

I could never deal with the chaos and loudness of a big city, I'd be in a rage 24/7
I live in an Appalachian holler. My home got fucked up by a broken pipe. Insurance denied my claim. Then my holler neighbors came to my rescue and helped me rebuild. Im never leaving here. In a big city no one would have given a fuck.
 
sounds like u r from murica. i have no idea about ur kind of people, but i often reckon that white sub5 beta males r best off living in trailer parks cuz the foids there give pussy to anyone with a gun and his own trailer apparently
 
Well no duh..

If you were in a rural area you would be less perceived since obviously less people.

Id just be on a farm rubbing the pigs bellies
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I prefer cities that have many brothels.
 
As someone who's lived in both I feel much more invisible in cities. Brutal seeing happy young couples though. There are tradeoffs to both
 

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