Serious @Logic55 Is An Example Of Why California Is The Way It Is.

[DarkStar]

It changed physical appearance but not intelligence. Am i wrong?

That wasn't the point of what he was saying

Jesus Christ, you're proving everything I said in the thread right.

He was saying that how could some massive genetic and environmental factors cause all these changes, yet somehow human intelligence was not affected at all?

Yes. Yes, you are. Don't fret. The world isn't finished, because of this.

TYRONE!!!

@FuckHOA @Left4DeadKoala

 

[Logic55]

Don't forget that much of the population is severely malnourished, while their fat fuck dear leader gorges himself on food and whores.

North Korea is a shithole but they have high IQ’s lol. The claim that North Koreans have higher iqs is speculation it hasn’t been officially confirmed. The North Korean government is lying, they lied about the birth of Kim Jong ills birthplace, they lie about Americans eating rats in the streets. Im not believing in something that doesn’t have good evidence to back it up. Im not gullible like these racial realists on .is

 

[AutistSupremacist]

New .is beef?

Sit back and watch bruv

 

[Logic55]

He was saying that how could some massive genetic and environmental factors cause all these changes, yet somehow human intelligence was not affected at all?

Adapting to a new environment doesnt change iq, most scientists agree on this point. Why should i listen to a random racial realist on .is? Im not gullible.

 

[VλREN]

I AM FORM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

seriously the east coast was worst, it’s southern California that’s the problem not the north.

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

North Korea is a shithole but they have high IQ’s lol. The claim that North Koreans have higher iqs is speculation it hasn’t been officially confirmed. The North Korean government is lying, they lied about the birth of Kim Jong ills birthplace, they lie about Americans eating rats in the streets. Im not believing in something that doesn’t have good evidence to back it up. Im not gullible like these racial realists on .is

Is the concept unfathomable to you? Like generally - races having lower and higher IQ. It doesn't mean you're inferior since races can have superior or inferior traits, right?

Maybe the terms 'superior' and 'inferior' are not a little too strong.

 

[VλREN]

Cluster fuck thread

 

[based_meme]

North Korea is a shithole but they have high IQ’s lol. The claim that North Koreans have higher iqs is speculation it hasn’t been officially confirmed. The North Korean government is lying, they lied about the birth of Kim Jong ills birthplace, they lie about Americans eating rats in the streets. Im not believing in something that doesn’t have good evidence to back it up. Im not gullible like these racial realists on .is

I agree that they embellish their national stats, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're bullshitting. Unlike you though, I'm happy to accept that this could be wrong.

You, on the other hand, seem particularly invested in this idea that genes determine everything from physical stats (size, skin, bones, muscles etc), to biomarkers, enzymes and hormone levels.

But for some strange fucking reason you draw a line in the sand when it comes to differences in cognition and brain differences, and will die on this hill - all evidence to the contrary be damned.

 

[DarkStar]

I didn't even know he lives in Cuckifornia AND that he has wealth he can boast about.

That other thread about IQ and race makes a whole lot more sense now. JFL

Yeah jfl

always thought it was some ethnic immigrant from UK

Really? He's stated he's Latino/Mestizo/Hispanic who almost exclusively migrate to the US.

hes a retarded poopskin shit muncher

I was about to say you can only use "shit muncher" for Curries, but since Mexicans like refried beans which look like literal shit I guess you can use that.

Says the one who cherry-picks data and cites debunked racial theories with weak evidence

I didn't "cherry pick"

I've literally cited multiple sources which can be used to show at least a good chunk of IQ is determined by race.

I can go back and show examples, if you want.

You’re too stupid to argue on topics on race and intelligence which is why you post these silly memes

As if you're anymore qualified yourself

I AM FORM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

seriously the east coast was worst, it’s southern California that’s the problem not the north.

Sorry man, perhaps you should look into Cascadian or Jeffersonian separatist movements?

Cluster fuck thread

Most of it is the user I mentioned spamming one-liners instead of replying like this, I've noticed ethnics here tend to do that a lot.

high iq post

I should really be President

You handwaved evidence I gave you that conflicted with your beliefs - evidence from the same academia that is ideologically aligned with you and sympathetic to you - that you claimed you searched hard and didn't find when I found it in literally minutes. Then you moved the goalpost to consensus - FUCKING CONSENSUS - as your new standard of evidence. JFL

yeah lmfao

Every time I've argued with him and shown him something, he's shifted the goal posts, gone off on tangents, and Gish-galloped

You don't have a leg to stand on when you talk about being critical of data and evidence. Just admit you can't accept evidence that challenges your worldview. It's not so bad. Your world won't implode. You'll still have your cushy life and bank account in one piece.

Yeah jfl, he's basically proving our points here.

 

[anandkonda]

Actually it's curries who'd the most inferior race according to me. At least rest of the races have some or the other traits in top tier to compensate even if they are nerfed in others.

Curries don't have a single top tier trait (except maybe hair) we are worst to mediocre in every respect.

There is literally no reason why curries exist in this world

 

[anandkonda]

Belief precedes evidence in the mind. People believe things because they've been taught it, were raised that way, and/or their life experiences molded their beliefs. Evidence is often sought after the fact to confirm what they already believe (confirmation bias). Whether we like it or not, we all have our bubbles of belief that we comfortably keep ourselves tucked inside. This is why the black pill can be devastating. It says "fuck you and your beliefs, this is reality."

It's just human nature to seek things out there that confirm what we believe inside (confirmation bias). Every human suffers from this, even scientists. Unlike the average person, though, scientists are in a position to officially verify things that they believe when they write grant proposals for experiments. I imagine many of them are disappointed when the data challenges what they believe and they're left with no choice but to report what they've found. Then there's some scientists who are corrupt and bullshit the results, like the case the Stanford case with fraudulent data.


Don't forget that much of the population is severely malnourished, while their fat fuck dear leader gorges himself on food and whores.

True

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

@InsidiousMerchant sense of superiority or inferiority is only in the head, it's subjective. But objectively blacks have lower IQ but mogg hard in terms of physique and athletics. I want to have children with a sheboon tbh

Actually it's curries who'd the most inferior race according to me. At least rest of the races have some or the other traits in top tier to compensate even if they are nerfed in others.

Curries don't have a single top tier trait (except maybe hair) we are worst to mediocre in every respect.

There is literally no reason why curries exist in this world

Curries have legendary hair tbf

 

[Undervalued]

A Bluepilled article on Intelligence vs Height. Discuss.

No, intelligence is not like height

... and the reason is one of the most interesting findings from modern behavioral genetics

theinfinitesimal.substack.com

 

[Logic55]

Is the concept unfathomable to you? Like generally - races having lower and higher IQ. It doesn't mean you're inferior since races can have superior or inferior traits, right?

Maybe the terms 'superior' and 'inferior' are not a little too strong.

As a blackpilled incel, I prefer to face the truth rather than hiding from it. After doing research on race and iq, the conclusion i came to is that IQ is determined by a combination of genetic and environmental factors. When it comes to genetics, there are thousands of genes that influence IQ, these “smart” genes are not more common in one group of people over an other. I also agree with the general consensus of the scientific community, not the minority. I’ve looked into theories from racial realists and i am suspicious of them because they make assumptions without going deep into detail about the topic they are researching

 

[Logic55]

Yeah jfl

Really? He's stated he's Latino/Mestizo/Hispanic who almost exclusively migrate to the US.

I was about to say you can only use "shit muncher" for Curries, but since Mexicans like refried beans which look like literal shit I guess you can use that.

I didn't "cherry pick"

I've literally cited multiple sources which can be used to show at least a good chunk of IQ is determined by race.

I can go back and show examples, if you want.

As if you're anymore qualified yourself

Sorry man, perhaps you should look into Cascadian or Jeffersonian separatist movements?

Most of it is the user I mentioned spamming one-liners instead of replying like this, I've noticed ethnics here tend to do that a lot.

I should really be President

yeah lmfao

Every time I've argued with him and shown him something, he's shifted the goal posts, gone off on tangents, and Gish-galloped

Yeah jfl, he's basically proving our points here.

Ramblings of a race coper on .is

 

[InsidiousMerchant]

I’ve looked into theories from racial realists and i am suspicious of them because they make assumptions without going deep into detail about the topic they are researching

I don't believe that suspicion is solid.

I also agree with the general consensus of the scientific community, not the minority.

Fair enough.

 

[Undervalued]

A Bluepilled article on Intelligence vs Height. Discuss.

No, intelligence is not like height

... and the reason is one of the most interesting findings from modern behavioral genetics

theinfinitesimal.substack.com

The update:

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[Logic55]

I agree that they embellish their national stats, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're bullshitting. Unlike you though, I'm happy to accept that this could be wrong.

You, on the other hand, seem particularly invested in this idea that genes determine everything from physical stats (size, skin, bones, muscles etc), to biomarkers, enzymes and hormone levels, and will die on this hill - all evidence to the contrary be damned.

But for some strange fucking reason you draw a line in the sand when it comes to differences in cognition and brain differences.

When it comes to the blackpill, my position is that if you are good looking and NT you will ascend. If you are ugly even as an NT, you are unlikely to ascend unless you become rich or statusmaxx. Being ugly doesn’t mean you are inherently IQ. It’s mostly about looks.

 

[based_meme]

When it comes to the blackpill, my position is that if you are good looking and NT you will ascend. If you are ugly even as an NT, you are unlikely to ascend unless you become rich or statusmaxx. Being ugly doesn’t mean you are inherently IQ. It’s mostly about looks.

Nobody is talking about the black pill and attraction here. Why are you changing the subject?

 

[Logic55]

Fair enough.

Apparently, im low iq for agreeing with the majority of scientists on this topic. Jfl, this is last place to go to for information on these scientific topics

 

[DarkStar]

I agree that they embellish their national stats, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're bullshitting. Unlike you though, I'm happy to accept that this could be wrong.

You, on the other hand, seem particularly invested in this idea that genes determine everything from physical stats (size, skin, bones, muscles etc), to biomarkers, enzymes and hormone levels.

But for some strange fucking reason you draw a line in the sand when it comes to differences in cognition and brain differences.

These "people" literally just say the quiet part out loud

>Genetics plays a role in determining A LOT
>": Nothing to do with IQ bro!"

The humans that migrated out of Africa to form rest of the races weren't genetically same as niggers

And humans came from apes too, are chimps and humans the same?

The "logic" employed on their end is unreal.

This was a pointless rant.

How was this a "rant?" Jfl, that would have been me saying you're the "worst user here" and calling you slurs, which I did not do. I simply stated how you typify the average Californian, and hence are an example as to why it is the way it is.

Is the concept unfathomable to you? Like generally - races having lower and higher IQ. It doesn't mean you're inferior since races can have superior or inferior traits, right?

Maybe the terms 'superior' and 'inferior' are not a little too strong.

We're just talking about IQ here, users such as him tend to go on tangents and drag as many unrelated things as possible in sine they can't address it head-on.

Another thing to add on, is that I believe certain characteristic or behavior traits can be genetic to some degree, which I would argue was shaped by climates races evolved in. For example, I'd say that Africas warmer climate is why Blacks are very "high time preference" which basically means they think in the "now" more so as opposed to thinking long-term. This is due to Africa having stuff such as plenty of food readily available, as opposed to Europe where it was harder to obtain.

Bruh, why can't people accept different races are different? Where does this SJW urge to believe all people are muh same come from?

No clue, but I'm sick of it on this site

Especially when you can clearly SEE how retarded niggers are in every environment. All these BBC cucks defending niggers will stop doing that if they actually lived among niggers and get their family raped by packs of niggers

OP has lived in his cushy little neighborhood, whilst I went to a diverse school which was utter shit and hell

Yet somehow socio-economic factors are responsible for it.

Just apply Occam's razor to the situation at hand


Why is it that the black-white IQ gap persists to this day? Even with muh discrimination, their starting point in a developed, first world country is much higher than that of other ethnicities located outside of the West

Look at the East Asian countries, which were among the poorest in the world just in the past few generations, who were able to economically converge with the West and have average IQs slightly higher than most Western countries

Look at North Korea, which has an estimated average IQ of three digits, despite literally being one of the poorest countries on the planet


Why is it that blacks still average sub 100 on IQ tests after all this time?

Exactly

At some point, you just have to look at how things really are and judge for yourself.

Rices were treated like shit when they came here, didn't have the "aggressive" nature blacks do which could have kept people off their backs, and now they're one of the highest earning groups in America.

 

[DarkStar]

Ramblings of a race coper on .is

So you won't even address what I say?

And about Richard Lyn, you do realize his methods were all valid right?

 

[DarkStar]

Fair enough.

There's plenty within the scientific community who agree with what I say

Such as with what @based_meme said

And jfl, people will gladly eat up what scientists say without looking at maybe who funds them- has that crossed anyones mind?

 

[DarkStar]

Nobody is talking about the black pill and attraction here. Why are you changing the subject?

Again, @Logic55 is going off on a tangent like I said

 

[based_meme]

There's plenty within the scientific community who agree with what I say

Such as with what @based_meme said

And jfl, people will gladly eat up what scientists say without looking at maybe who funds them- has that crossed anyones mind?

The truth is often uncomfortable and people will rarely risk their reputation and careers for it. So much for integrity and truth-seeking. JFL

 

[DarkStar]

I voted for Donald Trump. I do not brag about the money i have. I am middle class not rich, there is no reason for to me brag lol. I am pro life, I oppose the LGBTQ community. While I do believe in racial equality, I oppose women’s rights. I dont look down on poor people at all. My parents used to poor city dwellers back in the 1990s. I’ve made friends with poor people. Regrading my takes on race, I am objective. I dont rely on unsupported studies from people like Richard Lyn. I’ve done my research on that guy, he is known to be a racial realist but he makes up theories that most scientists disagree with. As a Californian, I have respect for red states like Florida and Texas because they have good policies that should be implemented in my own state. You are just salty because i am critical of your views on race. Just relax.

Youre attitude here is exactly what I spoke about in the post

You have a "holier than thou" attitude, which if anyone can't see idk what to tell you because it reads like writing in blood on a wall coming from this ingrate, who then tells me to "just relax" like some normgroid who's trying to worm his way out of something when I confront him.

And fyi, I've used many other things than Richard Lyn, including the SAT scores I showed which should be telling.

 

[DarkStar]

@based_meme is there also anything you can add on about Richard Lyn and his studies here?

 

[Logic55]

But for some strange fucking reason you draw a line in the sand when it comes to differences in cognition and brain differences.

Im objective and it appears that most scientists agree that race doesnt determine iq. I looked into theories that were spread by racial realists and they are not convincing. For example, someone here posted a chart showing that genes contributing to intelligence are more common in whites than blacks. When i searched up the chart on google, it led to a twitter post. The OP on twitter was asked to provide a source for the chart but he didnt reply. I couldn’t find where that chart came from. It would be resosnable for me assume that chart is fake. According to a theory by Richard Lyn, people who migrated out of Africa developed better genes for intelligence. He didnt provide evidence to support this claim, it was just speculation. I have looked at both sides

 

[Undervalued]

These "people" literally just say the quiet part out loud

>Genetics plays a role in determining A LOT
>": Nothing to do with IQ bro!"

The "logic" employed on their end is unreal.

How was this a "rant?" Jfl, that would have been me saying you're the "worst user here" and calling you slurs, which I did not do. I simply stated how you typify the average Californian, and hence are an example as to why it is the way it is.

We're just talking about IQ here, users such as him tend to go on tangents and drag as many unrelated things as possible in sine they can't address it head-on.

Another thing to add on, is that I believe certain characteristic or behavior traits can be genetic to some degree, which I would argue was shaped by climates races evolved in. For example, I'd say that Africas warmer climate is why Blacks are very "high time preference" which basically means they think in the "now" more so as opposed to thinking long-term. This is due to Africa having stuff such as plenty of food readily available, as opposed to Europe where it was harder to obtain.

No clue, but I'm sick of it on this site

OP has lived in his cushy little neighborhood, whilst I went to a diverse school which was utter shit and hell

Yet somehow socio-economic factors are responsible for it.

Exactly

At some point, you just have to look at how things really are and judge for yourself.

Rices were treated like shit when they came here, didn't have the "aggressive" nature blacks do which could have kept people off their backs, and now they're one of the highest earning groups in America.

Tsetse fly doomed most of SSA from the start. Horses just wouldn't survive there. It'd be impossible to create a Mongol-style empire.

 

[DarkStar]

Tsetse fly doomed most of SSA from the start. Horses just wouldn't survive there. It'd be impossible to create a Mongol-style empire.

What are you getting at here? Why can no one on this fucking website actually add context instead of yapping on without adding a reason to it.

So a fly is the reason why Africa is how it is? Jesus Christ....

 

[Logic55]

Youre attitude here is exactly what I spoke about in the post

You have a "holier than thou" attitude, which if anyone can't see idk what to tell you because it reads like writing in blood on a wall coming from this ingrate, who then tells me to "just relax" like some normgroid who's trying to worm his way out of something when I confront him.

And fyi, I've used many other things than Richard Lyn, including the SAT scores I showed which should be telling.

The SAT scores can be explained by the fact that whites tend to have accesS to better schools than blacks. Even poor whites have better schools in their areas than those in poor black areas. Being from a high income family doesnt guarantee that you will score higher on the SAT. Generally speaking, education is not a valued by black families regardless of how much money they make. Culture plays a big role. You ar actually downplaying the importance of culture on iq. You are arguing in bad faith. You tend to make oversimplifications rather than going deep into detail to explain the issue.

 

[based_meme]

@based_meme is there also anything you can add on about Richard Lyn and his studies here?

Not much, tbh. The SLPC and the liberal academia called him a racist. That tells you all you need to know, really.

 

[Logic55]

Not much, tbh. The SLPC and the liberal academia called him a racist. That tells you all you need to know, really.

It doesnt mean Richard Lyn is right and they are wrong

 

[Logic55]

OP has lived in his cushy little neighborhood, whilst I went to a diverse school which was utter shit and hell

I live in a normal middle class neighborhood, it’s not even gated. I also went to a diverse school.

 

[based_meme]

Im objective and it appears that most scientists agree that race doesnt determine iq. I looked into theories that were spread by racial realists and they are not convincing. For example, someone here posted a chart showing that genes contributing to intelligence are more common in whites than blacks. When i searched up the chart on google, it led to a twitter post. The OP on twitter was asked to provide a source for the chart but he didnt reply. I couldn’t find where that chart came from. It would be resosnable for me assume that chart is fake. According to a theory by Richard Lyn, people who migrated out of Africa developed better genes for intelligence. He didnt provide evidence to support this claim, it was just speculation.

You looked for scientific evidence on fucking TWITTER?

I have looked at both sides

Excuse me, if I don't believe you after last time.

 

[anandkonda]

You looked for scientific evidence on fucking TWITTER?

He has to be joking

 

[Logic55]

You looked for scientific evidence on fucking TWITTER?

Darkstar showed me the chart and it came from Twitter.

 

[based_meme]

It doesnt mean Richard Lyn is right and they are wrong

It means they're attacking his reputation and character, not his work. That's the part that "tells you all you need to know."

 

[based_meme]

Darkstar showed me the chart and it came from Twitter.

@DarkStar

 

[Undervalued]

What are you getting at here? Why can no one on this fucking website actually add context instead of yapping on without adding a reason to it.

So a fly is the reason why Africa is how it is? Jesus Christ....

> Quotes Richard Lynn.
> Tells me I'm yapping.

You came up with some bird-brained theory as to why there was no advanced precolonial SSA civilisation, and I told about the Tsetse fly (big civilisation killer). Not that hard to connect the dots. You don't know what you talking about. How about you actually engage with the research on this topic?

The update:

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theinfinitesimal.substack.com

A Bluepilled article on Intelligence vs Height. Discuss.

No, intelligence is not like height

... and the reason is one of the most interesting findings from modern behavioral genetics

theinfinitesimal.substack.com

 

[Logic55]

It means they're attacking his reputation and character, not his work. That's the part that "tells you all you need to know."

They also debunked his theories

 

[DarkStar]

Not much, tbh. The SLPC and the liberal academia called him a racist. That tells you all you need to know, really.

Question is answered then.

@Logic55 Incase you didn't notice mang, SPLC and those in mainstream academia have their own agenda. They use "racist" as an epithet to discredit views, which explains with Lyn.

Maybe he wasn't 100% accurate sure, but he was in the right direction.

 

[based_meme]

They also debunked his theories

Who's they? And be specific.

 

[DarkStar]

> Quotes Richard Lynn.
> Tells me I'm yapping.

And how is "Richard Lynn" somehow discredited here

As said:

Not much, tbh. The SLPC and the liberal academia called him a racist. That tells you all you need to know, really.

You came up with some bird-brained theory as to why there was no advanced precolonial SSA civilisation,

No, it makes valid sense

Europe and Asia were more arduous, colder, and harder to survive in, which caused for the inhabitants to have to think more long-term. Makes sense.

and I told about the Tsetse fly (big civilisation killer). Not that hard to connect the dots.

Could have added more

You don't know what you talking about.

I do

 

[Undervalued]

Question is answered then.

@Logic55 Incase you didn't notice mang, SPLC and those in mainstream academia have their own agenda. They use "racist" as an epithet to discredit views, which explains with Lyn.

Maybe he wasn't 100% accurate sure, but he was in the right direction.

JFL. Everyone trashes Richard Lynn. Even other racists:

https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2011/08/devastating-criticism-of-richard-lynn.html

Richard Lynn on Italian "IQ"

Controversial psychologist Richard Lynn , who looks at IQ and its correlates, has published a study claiming to show regional (North-South) ...

racialreality.blogspot.com

 

[DarkStar]

JFL. Everyone trashes Richard Lynn. Even other racists:

https://racialreality.blogspot.com/2011/08/devastating-criticism-of-richard-lynn.html

Richard Lynn on Italian "IQ"

Controversial psychologist Richard Lynn , who looks at IQ and its correlates, has published a study claiming to show regional (North-South) ...

racialreality.blogspot.com

Point is, he at least has an "idea" with IQ being genetic, that's literally all I was trying to say.

And so can you please elaborate, and at least clarify where you stand here.

 

[Logic55]

Who's they? And be specific.

Scientists like Steven Pinker and Craig Venter. They have wrote about these kind of theories and explained why they are wrong

 

[Undervalued]

Point is, he at least has an "idea" with IQ being genetic, that's literally all I was trying to say.

And so can you please elaborate, and at least clarify where you stand here.

None of this is well-understood.

 

[DarkStar]

None of this is well-understood.

Well, I just think that a lot of stuff points to race and IQ being somewhat linked, it at least has to be 50% or so which is still a lot

And I don't see how my theory had no basis to it, makes sense.

And I will look up on the tsetse fly, though that likely could just further my point with the climate/environment being a reason, which has became somewhat heritable.

 

[anandkonda]

None of this is well-understood.

What race are you?