Blackpill Life Sentences Are Society's Way Of Killing Someone, Whilst Using Mental Gymnastics To Hold Some Abitrary "Moral Highground" & Illusion Of Civility

[BlkPillPres]

Life sentences always confused me, because logically its no different than just killing the person, they essentially no longer exist, society's ended death sentences for the sake of attaining some new level of civility and to end "inhumane practices", but ironically quickly ending someones life is more humane than to force them to live in shitty conditions surrounded by violent and abusive criminals, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES

So its nothing but ridiculous mental gymnastics to rationalize one of the most inhumane acts ever, stripping someone of their free will

When you kill someone you've taken their free will, but only momentarily, after that they are dead, their will ceases to exist no different than if they died of old age

But holding someone captive indefinitely is taking away their free will till death, it just goes on and on until they croak, how the fuck is that more civil than quickly ending their life via lethal injection or something

I don't know how those guys who receive these life sentences do it, it doesn't make sense to me how they react, its almost as if the reality of the situation doesn't set in for them until they are in their cages

If I ever got convicted of any crime, the moment I hear the judge hold me guilty and resigns me to a life sentence, all bets are off, I'm going ER in the damn court house. I'm going to pretend to break down and cry (make them think I'm completely broken, really play it up), then I'm grabbing the gun off of the holster of the nearest guard, I'm shooting him, then I'm rushing over to kill the judge, then I'm blowing my own brains out, and hopefully that starts a trend or something JFL, because the entire concept of a life sentence is ridiculous

I don't understand how those guys don't get that their life is basically over and there's no point in continuing to live, its better to just go berserk in that room and have them kill you or kill yourself, heck I would never even take a 20 year sentence and for me to take 10 years it has to be at some place for insane people (or some other cushy place), I'm not doing it

SOCIETY JUST USES LIFE SENTENCES (LONG PRISON SENTENCES PERIOD) AS A MEANS TO KILL SOMEONE OFF, WHILE MAINTAINING THE ILLUSION CIVILITY AND A MORAL HIGHGROUND

"Were better than the person were punishing, so we can't stoop to their brutish uncivilized and inhumane level, that's why were going to indefinitely hold them captive in terrible conditions, and allow said environment to do the dirty work for us, slowly torturing them physically and psychologically day by day, until they kill themselves for us, or die from violence or old age"

Oh yeah that makes so much sense, that sounds so much more civil and humane than quickly ending the persons life

Its really sick when you think about it, if you are going to kill someone, at least own up to what it is you are doing and bear the weight of whatever guilt you may feel, its the least you could do, but society as a collective wants to feel no guilt, and no remorse, and just sweep shit under the table and pretend that nothings happening

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Life sentences as an incel outside of prison and an incel in prison are the same...
Your life is shitty and doesn't get better and you get mogged all the time.
Steel cages and looks cages still leave you dying alone as a virgin omega.
Nothing matters, nothing to lose, everything left is a violent meme.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Life sentences as an incel outside of prison and an incel in prison are the same

JFL dude don't be ridiculous, I'm not going to get raped by a man out here in the real world, in prison the likelihood of that happening goes up by a lot, I can also eat fast food, enjoy entertainment, etc out here, lets not exaggerate and make it sound like its just as bad in prison for an incel as it is in the outside world

Now the argument that our very lives are like a microcosm of the prison environment, that I would agree with, because were trapped in our own lives, but unlike a prisoner, there are avenues we can take to somewhat change it

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I agree, I was just thinking about creating a thread of similar subject matter, although focused on the idea of justice in a wider context. Also for the most part, those who condemn others to punishment for it's own sake are really no better than those whom they sentence, it's just that society endorses the one but not the other.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I agree, I was just thinking about creating a thread of similar subject matter, although focused on the idea of justice in a wider context. Also for the most part, those who condemn others to punishment for it's own sake are really no better than those whom they sentence, it's just that society endorses the one but not the other.

I think the sick part is that society wants a "guilt free revenge", its like the people who eat meat but if they had to slaughter an animal for food they couldn't do it because its "beneath them" and "disgusting/barbaric", its ridiculous, they want to get what they want without having to get their hands dirty at all

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

I think the sick part is that society wants a "guilt free revenge", its like the people who eat meat but if they had to slaughter an animal for food they couldn't do it because its "beneath them" and "disgusting/barbaric", its ridiculous, they want to get what they want without having to get their hands dirty at all

to be fair even in some ancient societies animal slaughter was seen as unclean and beaneath them by the upper class, now the upper class is yuppies/soyboys

 

[BlkPillPres]

to be fair even in some ancient societies animal slaughter was seen as unclean and beneath them by the upper class

Yeah but that was more of a "I don't want to do it" (ego) than a "I can't bring myself to do it" (morality)

Those people from ancient societies were willing and able to fight and die, and even kill animals

What I'm saying is, someone who feels morally conflicted about killing an animal, should not be allowed to eat meat

Just as society's that are morally conflicted about killing criminals, should not be able to dole out life sentences and basically still end the lives of these criminals, its just a back handed way of killing someone so you don't feel guilt and can rest easy in the moral ambiguity

 

[Emba]

White men do not fear death.

So that isn't a deterrent to crime.

White men fear lack of freedom.

 

[BlkPillPres]

White men do not fear death.

So that isn't a deterrent to crime.

White men fear lack of freedom.

1. I don't know why you single out white men, because pretty much all men fear lack of freedom

2. If what you were saying were some general truth, there'd be a lot more courtroom ER's, it seems like it doesn't sink in for most men that their lives are over until they hit the cell, else they'd go berserk in the court room, or kill themselves upon arrival at the prison

 

[_wifebeater_]

In most european countries it's much better, where a 'life-sentence' is about 15-20 years.

 

[Emba]

1. I don't know why you single out white men, because pretty much all men fear lack of freedom

2. If what you were saying were some general truth, there'd be a lot more courtroom ER's, it seems like it doesn't sink in for most men that their lives are over until they hit the cell, else they'd go berserk in the court room, or kill themselves upon arrival at the prison

#1 sure. But still it's true. But Black men don't fear it nearly as much. Or there would be far less black crime. For some urban blacks it's like going to visit dad, or friends from the 'hood...

#2 white men are easily demoralized. I mean really... Look at all the whiny sad whites here for example! Most just ldar not er! Myself included.

The only time Whites go "berserk" is during war or fighting. It probably has something to do with hormones and survival.

Whites often have a well defined, "future sense" so it's easier to cope with stressful situations. Because there may be an opportunity to escape! Risk aversion! Whites don't like to lose. So they usually don't take chances if the odds of winning are bad. Ofc, some whites are simply weak cunts.

 

[Incline]

I was always under the impression that life sentence without the chance of parole is a much harsher sentence than death sentence. They are both equal in a way, but one drags on while the other has some closure to it. I can't believe all the altfags advocating for death penalty for harsh crimes. Like, if you really wanna punish somebody is keeping him isolated for the rest of his life not the best way of going around it?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Like, if you really wanna punish somebody is keeping him isolated for the rest of his life not the best way of going around it?

Yeah but its expensive, so if you're going to kill someone, you might as well do it the cheapest way, its very ironic to "punish" someone at the expense of "punishing" tax payers, life sentences make it so that criminals "pay their debt to society" whilst simultaneously draining resources from society, it doesn't make sense

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I would die on the street in a gunfight tbh. I will never go into a cage. But I agree the concept of life or long term (20+ years) sentences are retarded. Lets say I go to jail for 25 years rn without possibility of parole. That means I will, at minimum, lose over a quarter of my life. It makes no sense to me. My life is not valuable enough for me to preserve it in cage for a quarter century. If I get to prison, I try to die quickly.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Lets say I go to jail for 25 years rn without possibility of parole. That means I will, at minimum, lose over a quarter of my life. It makes no sense to me. My life is not valuable enough for me to preserve it in cage for a quarter century. If I get to prison, I try to die quickly.

The worst part is that its like some sick fucking game of perpetual failure, even after you get out, there are no good job opportunities waiting for you since you have a criminal record, ontop of the fact that you are 25 years behind everyone else when it comes to social norms, economic trends, technological advancements, etc

It would be like you walked into an entirely different country yet you were there the whole time, and society just pats you on the back and says:

"Ok, well you're all good and rehabilitated, you've paid your debts, time to integrate back into society, don't go back to committing crimes even though that's the best avenue for an enjoyable existence that we've left you with"

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

The worst part is that its like some sick fucking game of perpetual failure, even after you get out, there are no good job opportunities waiting for you since you have a criminal record, ontop of the fact that you are 25 years behind everyone else when it comes to social norms, economic trends, technological advancements, etc

It would be like you walked into an entirely different country yet you were there the whole time, and society just pats you on the back and says:

"Ok, well you're all good and rehabilitated, you've paid your debts, time to integrate back into society, don't go back to committing crimes even though that's the best avenue for an enjoyable existence that we've left you with"

Its even worse than walking into a new country. Imagine transporting somebody from 1995 and placing them into today's society. They just served a 25 year sentence. Their parents are likely dead or elderly, their peers from the outside are gone. Social norms are completely different. Imagine having to use facebook or instagram when the last tech you used was a computer running Windows 95. Its completely and totally insane to expect them to cope and reintegrate. And that is not even touching inmates that went through solitary or were affiliated in prison.

 

[Sadness]

If I ever got convicted of any crime, the moment I hear the judge hold me guilty and resigns me to a life sentence, all bets are off, I'm going ER in the damn court house. I'm going to pretend to break down and cry (make them think I'm completely broken, really play it up), then I'm grabbing the gun off of the holster of the nearest guard, I'm shooting him, then I'm rushing over to kill the judge, then I'm blowing my own brains out.

That's easier said than done.

 

[Vermilioncore]

I saw some nigger get sentenced to life in prison on YouTube and he freaked out. I would do the same.

 

[Delusion]

Life sentences always confused me, because logically its no different than just killing the person, they essentially no longer exist, society's ended death sentences for the sake of attaining some new level of civility and to end "inhumane practices", but ironically quickly ending someones life is more humane than to force them to live in shitty conditions surrounded by violent and abusive criminals, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES

So its nothing but ridiculous mental gymnastics to rationalize one of the most inhumane acts ever, stripping someone of their free will

When you kill someone you've taken their free will, but only momentarily, after that they are dead, their will ceases to exist no different than if they died of old age

But holding someone captive indefinitely is taking away their free will till death, it just goes on and on until they croak, how the fuck is that more civil than quickly ending their life via lethal injection or something

I don't know how those guys who receive these life sentences do it, it doesn't make sense to me how they react, its almost as if the reality of the situation doesn't set in for them until they are in their cages

If I ever got convicted of any crime, the moment I hear the judge hold me guilty and resigns me to a life sentence, all bets are off, I'm going ER in the damn court house. I'm going to pretend to break down and cry (make them think I'm completely broken, really play it up), then I'm grabbing the gun off of the holster of the nearest guard, I'm shooting him, then I'm rushing over to kill the judge, then I'm blowing my own brains out, and hopefully that starts a trend or something JFL, because the entire concept of a life sentence is ridiculous

I don't understand how those guys don't get that their life is basically over and there's no point in continuing to live, its better to just go berserk in that room and have them kill you or kill yourself, heck I would never even take a 20 year sentence and for me to take 10 years it has to be at some place for insane people (or some other cushy place), I'm not doing it

SOCIETY JUST USES LIFE SENTENCES (LONG PRISON SENTENCES PERIOD) AS A MEANS TO KILL SOMEONE OFF, WHILE MAINTAINING THE ILLUSION CIVILITY AND A MORAL HIGHGROUND

"Were better than the person were punishing, so we can't stoop to their brutish uncivilized and inhumane level, that's why were going to indefinitely hold them captive in terrible conditions, and allow said environment to do the dirty work for us, slowly torturing them physically and psychologically day by day, until they kill themselves for us, or die from violence or old age"

Oh yeah that makes so much sense, that sounds so much more civil and humane than quickly ending the persons life

Its really sick when you think about it, if you are going to kill someone, at least own up to what it is you are doing and bear the weight of whatever guilt you may feel, its the least you could do, but society as a collective wants to feel no guilt, and no remorse, and just sweep shit under the table and pretend that nothings happening

This is quite similar to people who get into accidents and become paralysed from the neck down, and then wanting it to end has to resort to fighting for the right to die, euthanasia, a dignified death, and often this plea gets refuted in court, subsequently they lose the right to end their lives.

Can you imagine that, paralysed from the neck down and losing even the right to die, a choice even slaves have had.

I was browsing this forum for people with spinal cord injuries, and one member who was complete quadriplegic (complete paralysis from the neck down) who can't even eat and shit without the help of others, and surprisingly he held this strong stance against euthanasia, something about the morality of having a doctor, one whose purpose is to save lives, to end one. And how unfair it would be to laden the burden of his death upon those that are close to him, and even quoted Tyrion Lannister, "death is so boring, but life is full of possibilities".

He even the gall to label himself an "optimist", so pathetic I want to spit, nothing but a weak willed fool who can't even muster up the courage to look upon life's darkness, endlessly rationalising the weakness of his spirit and through some transcendental mental acrobatics see it as a strong mental fortitude, an optimist whose spirit is unwavering.

All I see is a defeated dog who lacks the strength to comprehend reality.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I think the sick part is that society wants a "guilt free revenge", its like the people who eat meat but if they had to slaughter an animal for food they couldn't do it because its "beneath them" and "disgusting/barbaric", its ridiculous, they want to get what they want without having to get their hands dirty at all

Don't forget how profitable the private prison system is.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

I would probably try all 4 options in that case, in this order: 4, 1, 3, 2

 

[Incline]

Yeah but its expensive, so if you're going to kill someone, you might as well do it the cheapest way, its very ironic to "punish" someone at the expense of "punishing" tax payers, life sentences make it so that criminals "pay their debt to society" whilst simultaneously draining resources from society, it doesn't make sense

That's why they should be put in labour camps. To pay for their stay.

 

[Indari]

I always thought life sentences were completely barbaric. Way more than just getting a bullet to the head. America is fucking retarded.

That's easier said than done.

Practice makes perfect

In most european countries it's much better, where a 'life-sentence' is about 15-20 years.

Sane continent
Minds havent been ruined by burgers

 

[iblamemyself]

It makes a huge difference in a religious society. If you kill someone, you take his chance away to become a believer. If you lock somebody up with a bible, he may rethink his life and become religious, maybe even relearn empathy and ask the families of his victims for mercy.

Also keep in mind that some people are evicted for crimes they didn't commit. You could kill a suspect who will later be proven innocent.

 

[TheReaper]

judges and juries probably think that merely killing someone isn't enough for certain crimes...
so the point of life sentences is in fact to make the inmate suffer more than if he simply died.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You could kill a suspect who will later be proven innocent.

I've thought of that, but if I were to be released 20 fucking years later after being proven innocent I would not give a fuck, my life is still over, unless the government is paying me millions in damages I'd still see no point in continuing to live, so unless that person was going to be vindicated 1-5 years later, it doesn't make a difference, I'd choose death than to serve 5 years in prison being beaten and raped, its not even a hard choice to make

 

[Deleted member 15752]

If I ever got convicted of any crime, the moment I hear the judge hold me guilty and resigns me to a life sentence, all bets are off, I'm going ER in the damn court house. I'm going to pretend to break down and cry (make them think I'm completely broken, really play it up), then I'm grabbing the gun off of the holster of the nearest guard, I'm shooting him, then I'm rushing over to kill the judge, then I'm blowing my own brains out, and hopefully that starts a trend or something JFL, because the entire concept of a life sentence is ridiculous

ngl requires some elite weapons sneaking levels

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

I've thought of that, but if I were to be released 20 fucking years later after being proven innocent I would not give a fuck, my life is still over, unless the government is paying me millions in damages I'd still see no point in continuing to live, so unless that person was going to be vindicated 1-5 years later, it doesn't make a difference, I'd choose death than to serve 5 years in prison being beaten and raped, its not even a hard choice to make

If a person is convicted wrongly and he serves his time then the best thing for that person to do is go ER as soon as he is out to take his revenge on this garbage society