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Experiment [JFL] Psychologists create an "incel score": How many points do you have on the Incel Indoctrination Rubric (IIR)?

Score

  • Less than 5

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Between 5 and 7.25

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Between 7.5 and 9.75

    Votes: 9 15.3%
  • Between 10 and 12.25

    Votes: 17 28.8%
  • Between 12.5 and 14.75

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Between 15 and 17.25

    Votes: 5 8.5%
  • Higher than 17.5

    Votes: 9 15.3%

  • Total voters
    59
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I've been doing a bit of light reading lately.

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It's actually not a bad read. (Routledge) Van Brunt and Taylor are professionals, writing for professionals, so their knowledge of and research into the incelosphere is far more polished and thorough than most other publications. The tone of this book has none of the outrage-porn quality I've come to expect from deranged Redditors and femoid journalists when they discuss the incel community; instead, it's fairly clininal.

I've thought about writing a thread about the book, but considering its length it'd probably be a multi-thread essay. Maybe I will.

For now, I'd just like to ask what everyone thinks of the Incel Indoctrination Rubric.

Scoring the Incel Indoctrination Rubric

The IIR is scored into 4 categories of 5 traits each, for a combined total of 20 points.

Give yourself 1 point if you believe a trait is "fully present". Score 0.75, 0.5, and 0.25 points if a trait is "major", "moderate", or "minor" respectively. Score zero points if you believe a listed trait is not present.

Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys.

2. Racism: There is a lack of appreciation for diversity or any divergence and a sense of superiority of the white race over all others. This would also include anti-Semitic beliefs, homophobic, and transphobic beliefs.

3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: This bi-furcated construct exists on two extremes on a spectrum. On the one end, the faulty view of self is overly negative and leads to low self-esteem and value. On the other end, he sees himself as all-powerful and possesses an overly inflated sense of value and entitlement.

5. Fame seeking: There is a larger desire to achieve fame and make a statement, to be the chosen one with a sense of purpose that alluded him throughout his life. This may come at the end of a long struggle where they find worth in the idea of communicating a larger message to society to set things right and un-mask the injustices they have endured.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: There is an intense anger and rage directed toward women, alpha males, other non-white males seen as “less than,” and/or the society at large for contributing to his marginalized status without a chance for redemption.

7. Hopelessness: A pervasive sense of sadness and desperation at the prospect of considering the future. There is a sense of futility and desperateness regarding any positive change in the future

8. Catastrophe: Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup or difficulty obtaining a first date are given a larger, catastrophic emphasis that provide a frame for the individual being a worthless failure.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: A mental or physical illness that creates an increased difficulty in social connection with both interaction and reading social cues. There is a difficulty in understanding the rules of flirting and he struggles to form relationships. This most commonly is related to Asperger’s/Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), depression, social anxiety or personality disorders.

10. Abandoned: Pervasive feelings of being misunderstood, neglected, abandoned or deserted. He feels alone in the world and that no one seems to care about his troubles or descent into increasing pain.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: A term first coined by Meloy (2014), this describes behaviors that threaten others. They are often impulsive, affective, adrenaline-filled actions that should be seen as approach behaviors moving toward harming attractive women, the alpha males who have them and a society that unjustly supports this biological deck stacked against the incel.

12. Howling: A term coined by Calhoun and Westin (2009), howling refers to conditional, transient threats that are made against others primarily to intimidate and to force a fight, flight, or flee reaction. This howling often occurs on social media.

13. Suicide: The person makes a suicide attempt or statement. This is often done out of frustration and may be an attempt to control and influence a woman or others. These suicide attempts can occur frequently and are often related to the incel’s frustration in dating relationships

14. Past Attacks: He references past attacks, shootings or negative actions toward women to praise to other violent actors. This can occur in writing, on social media or be spoken to friends, classmates and co-workers. This may include an infatuation with prior killers/actors and collecting information about them.

15. Redpill: He seeks to change his behavior, status or worth through physical exercise, cosmetic surgery, or obtaining wealth to attract women. He believes these efforts will make a less genetically worthy male be able to obtain a higher rated female through altering aspects of his appearance, increasing wealth or status.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: He is frequently exposed to incel and/or white supremacist/nationalist, homophobic, ablest, ageist, transphobic, or anti-Semitic ideas through peers, media, and family messaging and/or websites and discussion boards. Alternative viewpoints are routinely dismissed without exploration or empathy.

17. Rejection: Women reject advances from the person related to sexual approach with the assumed reason being related to genetics, lack of women’s interest, or their preference for males who are superior.

18. Bullied: He is teased about his appearance, especially being sexually unattractive or unable to find a sexual partner. This bullying often occurs in front of others, further escalating his difficulty finding connections with others and embarrassing him, causing feelings of negative self-worth or lack of acceptance from others.

19. Failure to Change: Previous attempts at changing thoughts or behaviors have been met with frustration and exacerbation. These change attempts are often steps in the right direction such as attending therapy, learning more about dating from apps or self-help books, and listening to and connecting with friends.

20. Free Fall: He exhibits a low sense of self-worth and has experienced difficulty finding acceptance from others, such as friends or parents. There may have been abuse, traumatic loss, or family change/discord, all feeding into feelings of worthlessness.

Scoring examples: Elliot Rodger and George Sodini

Rodger's score: 19.5/20

Sodini's score: 17.5/20

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Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys. Yes

2. Racism: There is a lack of appreciation for diversity or any divergence and a sense of superiority of the white race over all others. This would also include anti-Semitic beliefs, homophobic, and transphobic beliefs. No

3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies. Yes

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: This bi-furcated construct exists on two extremes on a spectrum. On the one end, the faulty view of self is overly negative and leads to low self-esteem and value. On the other end, he sees himself as all-powerful and possesses an overly inflated sense of value and entitlement. No

5. Fame seeking: There is a larger desire to achieve fame and make a statement, to be the chosen one with a sense of purpose that alluded him throughout his life. This may come at the end of a long struggle where they find worth in the idea of communicating a larger message to society to set things right and un-mask the injustices they have endured. No

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: There is an intense anger and rage directed toward women, alpha males, other non-white males seen as “less than,” and/or the society at large for contributing to his marginalized status without a chance for redemption. No

7. Hopelessness: A pervasive sense of sadness and desperation at the prospect of considering the future. There is a sense of futility and desperateness regarding any positive change in the future Yes, but not sad

8. Catastrophe: Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup or difficulty obtaining a first date are given a larger, catastrophic emphasis that provide a frame for the individual being a worthless failure. No

9. Mental or Physical Disability: A mental or physical illness that creates an increased difficulty in social connection with both interaction and reading social cues. There is a difficulty in understanding the rules of flirting and he struggles to form relationships. This most commonly is related to Asperger’s/Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), depression, social anxiety or personality disorders. No

10. Abandoned: Pervasive feelings of being misunderstood, neglected, abandoned or deserted. He feels alone in the world and that no one seems to care about his troubles or descent into increasing pain. No

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: A term first coined by Meloy (2014), this describes behaviors that threaten others. They are often impulsive, affective, adrenaline-filled actions that should be seen as approach behaviors moving toward harming attractive women, the alpha males who have them and a society that unjustly supports this biological deck stacked against the incel. No

12. Howling: A term coined by Calhoun and Westin (2009), howling refers to conditional, transient threats that are made against others primarily to intimidate and to force a fight, flight, or flee reaction. This howling often occurs on social media. No

13. Suicide: The person makes a suicide attempt or statement. This is often done out of frustration and may be an attempt to control and influence a woman or others. These suicide attempts can occur frequently and are often related to the incel’s frustration in dating relationships No

14. Past Attacks: He references past attacks, shootings or negative actions toward women to praise to other violent actors. This can occur in writing, on social media or be spoken to friends, classmates and co-workers. This may include an infatuation with prior killers/actors and collecting information about them. No

15. Redpill: He seeks to change his behavior, status or worth through physical exercise, cosmetic surgery, or obtaining wealth to attract women. He believes these efforts will make a less genetically worthy male be able to obtain a higher rated female through altering aspects of his appearance, increasing wealth or status. No

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: He is frequently exposed to incel and/or white supremacist/nationalist, homophobic, ablest, ageist, transphobic, or anti-Semitic ideas through peers, media, and family messaging and/or websites and discussion boards. Alternative viewpoints are routinely dismissed without exploration or empathy. Sometimes

17. Rejection: Women reject advances from the person related to sexual approach with the assumed reason being related to genetics, lack of women’s interest, or their preference for males who are superior. Yes

18. Bullied: He is teased about his appearance, especially being sexually unattractive or unable to find a sexual partner. This bullying often occurs in front of others, further escalating his difficulty finding connections with others and embarrassing him, causing feelings of negative self-worth or lack of acceptance from others. Yes, though I also did the same

19. Failure to Change: Previous attempts at changing thoughts or behaviors have been met with frustration and exacerbation. These change attempts are often steps in the right direction such as attending therapy, learning more about dating from apps or self-help books, and listening to and connecting with friends. No

20. Free Fall: He exhibits a low sense of self-worth and has experienced difficulty finding acceptance from others, such as friends or parents. There may have been abuse, traumatic loss, or family change/discord, all feeding into feelings of worthlessness. No
 
Again, these normies and academics still don't get it.

Their default belief is that incels will go on a killing spree against women and society. That couldn't be further from the truth.

The reality is that the majority of incels are gonna LDAR or Rope. Mass killings are extremely rare (less than 1% of incels will commit mass killings).

There is a higher likelihood that Chads and normie men will kill women than incels will. Are they gonna make an indoctrination rubric for Chads?

Fucking ridiculous.
 
Again, these normies and academics still don't get it.

Their default belief is that incels will go on a killing spree against women and society. That couldn't be further from the truth.

The reality is that the majority of incels are gonna LDAR or Rope. Mass killings are extremely rare (less than 1% of incels will commit mass killings).

There is a higher likelihood that Chads and normie men will kill women than incels will. Are they gonna make an indoctrination rubric for Chads?

Fucking ridiculous.
Well, the book doesn't suggest most of us are going to go ER. They did mention the increased prevalence of roping, however.
 
Chad can be blackpilled, these fags haven't gone on looksmaxx.org obviously.
Again, these normies and academics still don't get it.

Their default belief is that incels will go on a killing spree against women and society. That couldn't be further from the truth.

The reality is that the majority of incels are gonna LDAR or Rope. Mass killings are extremely rare (less than 1% of incels will commit mass killings).

There is a higher likelihood that Chads and normie men will kill women than incels will. Are they gonna make an indoctrination rubric for Chads?

Fucking ridiculous.
:yes::yes::yes:

Incel is a state of being, not an ideology.
 
jfl they made a buzzfeed quiz
 
Well, the book doesn't suggest most of us are going to go ER. They did mention the increased prevalence of roping, however.
I haven't read the book, but I'm going off of their Incel Indoctrination Rubric.
Take a look at trait 1 and 3.
Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys.


3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.
Basically according to them if you're an incel and blackpilled, you automatically will resort to killing and rape.
This is what I mean by normies/soyciety/academics not getting it. This is their default position regarding incels and the blackpill.
 
I haven't read the book, but I'm going off of their Incel Indoctrination Rubric.
Take a look at trait 1 and 3.

Basically according to them if you're an incel and blackpilled, you automatically will resort to killing and rape.
This is what I mean by normies/soyciety/academics not getting it. This is their default position regarding incels and the blackpill.
The rubric does go into further detail about what warrants a "fully present" designation versus, say, a "minor trait", but I didn't want to make this too long. On the other hand, it is designed to evaluate a wide range of behaviours and beliefs, everyone from a simp (<2) to the next saint (>18).

You are right about normalfags being hysterical and stupid; and they always have been, incels are the moral panic of the 2020s, following the violent video games of the 2000s and the satanic ritual abuses of the 1980s.

Though from a risk management standpoint, I can't blame academics for devoting more resources on the smaller fringe elements of the incel community.
 
Well I reckon I'm about an 8 or a 9.
(Maybe even 9 and a half in four beers' time :feelsgah: )

"Killing Chad and raping Stacey" comes up again and again.

You've read it and I haven't - do you think they are honest in their mission statement that this is anout "understanding and treating incels"?

Because the way "Killing Chad and raping Stacey" keeps popping up, it makes me suspect they're just trying to make a screening tool to work out who's going to go nuts and kill people, and who's just a harmless loser that they don't need to worry about. On a scale of one to Elliott Rodger, how Elliott Rodger are you?
I've been doing a bit of light reading lately.

View attachment 476514

It's actually not a bad read. (Routledge) Van Brunt and Taylor are professionals, writing for professionals, so their knowledge of and research into the incelosphere is far more polished and thorough than most other publications. The tone of this book has none of the outrage-porn quality I've come to expect from deranged Redditors and femoid journalists when they discuss the incel community; instead, it's fairly clininal.

I've thought about writing a thread about the book, but considering its length it'd probably be a multi-thread essay. Maybe I will.

For now, I'd just like to ask what everyone thinks of the Incel Indoctrination Rubric.

Scoring the Incel Indoctrination Rubric

The IIR is scored into 4 categories of 5 traits each, for a combined total of 20 points.

Give yourself 1 point if you believe a trait is "fully present". Score 0.75, 0.5, and 0.25 points if a trait is "major", "moderate", or "minor" respectively. Score zero points if you believe a listed trait is not present.

Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys.

2. Racism: There is a lack of appreciation for diversity or any divergence and a sense of superiority of the white race over all others. This would also include anti-Semitic beliefs, homophobic, and transphobic beliefs.

3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: This bi-furcated construct exists on two extremes on a spectrum. On the one end, the faulty view of self is overly negative and leads to low self-esteem and value. On the other end, he sees himself as all-powerful and possesses an overly inflated sense of value and entitlement.

5. Fame seeking: There is a larger desire to achieve fame and make a statement, to be the chosen one with a sense of purpose that alluded him throughout his life. This may come at the end of a long struggle where they find worth in the idea of communicating a larger message to society to set things right and un-mask the injustices they have endured.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: There is an intense anger and rage directed toward women, alpha males, other non-white males seen as “less than,” and/or the society at large for contributing to his marginalized status without a chance for redemption.

7. Hopelessness: A pervasive sense of sadness and desperation at the prospect of considering the future. There is a sense of futility and desperateness regarding any positive change in the future

8. Catastrophe: Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup or difficulty obtaining a first date are given a larger, catastrophic emphasis that provide a frame for the individual being a worthless failure.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: A mental or physical illness that creates an increased difficulty in social connection with both interaction and reading social cues. There is a difficulty in understanding the rules of flirting and he struggles to form relationships. This most commonly is related to Asperger’s/Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), depression, social anxiety or personality disorders.

10. Abandoned: Pervasive feelings of being misunderstood, neglected, abandoned or deserted. He feels alone in the world and that no one seems to care about his troubles or descent into increasing pain.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: A term first coined by Meloy (2014), this describes behaviors that threaten others. They are often impulsive, affective, adrenaline-filled actions that should be seen as approach behaviors moving toward harming attractive women, the alpha males who have them and a society that unjustly supports this biological deck stacked against the incel.

12. Howling: A term coined by Calhoun and Westin (2009), howling refers to conditional, transient threats that are made against others primarily to intimidate and to force a fight, flight, or flee reaction. This howling often occurs on social media.

13. Suicide: The person makes a suicide attempt or statement. This is often done out of frustration and may be an attempt to control and influence a woman or others. These suicide attempts can occur frequently and are often related to the incel’s frustration in dating relationships

14. Past Attacks: He references past attacks, shootings or negative actions toward women to praise to other violent actors. This can occur in writing, on social media or be spoken to friends, classmates and co-workers. This may include an infatuation with prior killers/actors and collecting information about them.

15. Redpill: He seeks to change his behavior, status or worth through physical exercise, cosmetic surgery, or obtaining wealth to attract women. He believes these efforts will make a less genetically worthy male be able to obtain a higher rated female through altering aspects of his appearance, increasing wealth or status.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: He is frequently exposed to incel and/or white supremacist/nationalist, homophobic, ablest, ageist, transphobic, or anti-Semitic ideas through peers, media, and family messaging and/or websites and discussion boards. Alternative viewpoints are routinely dismissed without exploration or empathy.

17. Rejection: Women reject advances from the person related to sexual approach with the assumed reason being related to genetics, lack of women’s interest, or their preference for males who are superior.

18. Bullied: He is teased about his appearance, especially being sexually unattractive or unable to find a sexual partner. This bullying often occurs in front of others, further escalating his difficulty finding connections with others and embarrassing him, causing feelings of negative self-worth or lack of acceptance from others.

19. Failure to Change: Previous attempts at changing thoughts or behaviors have been met with frustration and exacerbation. These change attempts are often steps in the right direction such as attending therapy, learning more about dating from apps or self-help books, and listening to and connecting with friends.

20. Free Fall: He exhibits a low sense of self-worth and has experienced difficulty finding acceptance from others, such as friends or parents. There may have been abuse, traumatic loss, or family change/discord, all feeding into feelings of worthlessness.

Scoring examples: Elliot Rodger and George Sodini

Rodger's score: 19.5/20

Sodini's score: 17.5/20

 
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There is a higher likelihood that Chads and normie men will kill women than incels will. Are they gonna make an indoctrination rubric for Chads?
jfl


Also, I got 14.5
 
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Majority of the ones that apply for me are to do with self hatred, yet the assumption is still that all incels hate women and want them dead when I just feel nothing for them
 
yet the assumption is still that all incels hate women and want them dead when I just feel nothing for them
"Killing Chad and raping Stacey" comes up again and again.

Because the way "Killing Chad and raping Stacey" keeps popping up, it makes me suspect they're just trying to make a screening tool to work out who's going to go nuts and kill people, and who's just a harmless loser that they don't need to worry about. On a scale of one to Elliott Rodger, how Elliott Rodger are you?
Exactly.

They think all incels will kill and rape, they haven't learned anything and will continue to misrepresent us deliberately.
 
Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority,
:yes:
and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.
:no:
 
I've been doing a bit of light reading lately.

View attachment 476514

It's actually not a bad read. (Routledge) Van Brunt and Taylor are professionals, writing for professionals, so their knowledge of and research into the incelosphere is far more polished and thorough than most other publications. The tone of this book has none of the outrage-porn quality I've come to expect from deranged Redditors and femoid journalists when they discuss the incel community; instead, it's fairly clininal.

I've thought about writing a thread about the book, but considering its length it'd probably be a multi-thread essay. Maybe I will.

For now, I'd just like to ask what everyone thinks of the Incel Indoctrination Rubric.

Scoring the Incel Indoctrination Rubric

The IIR is scored into 4 categories of 5 traits each, for a combined total of 20 points.

Give yourself 1 point if you believe a trait is "fully present". Score 0.75, 0.5, and 0.25 points if a trait is "major", "moderate", or "minor" respectively. Score zero points if you believe a listed trait is not present.

Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys.

2. Racism: There is a lack of appreciation for diversity or any divergence and a sense of superiority of the white race over all others. This would also include anti-Semitic beliefs, homophobic, and transphobic beliefs.

3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: This bi-furcated construct exists on two extremes on a spectrum. On the one end, the faulty view of self is overly negative and leads to low self-esteem and value. On the other end, he sees himself as all-powerful and possesses an overly inflated sense of value and entitlement.

5. Fame seeking: There is a larger desire to achieve fame and make a statement, to be the chosen one with a sense of purpose that alluded him throughout his life. This may come at the end of a long struggle where they find worth in the idea of communicating a larger message to society to set things right and un-mask the injustices they have endured.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: There is an intense anger and rage directed toward women, alpha males, other non-white males seen as “less than,” and/or the society at large for contributing to his marginalized status without a chance for redemption.

7. Hopelessness: A pervasive sense of sadness and desperation at the prospect of considering the future. There is a sense of futility and desperateness regarding any positive change in the future

8. Catastrophe: Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup or difficulty obtaining a first date are given a larger, catastrophic emphasis that provide a frame for the individual being a worthless failure.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: A mental or physical illness that creates an increased difficulty in social connection with both interaction and reading social cues. There is a difficulty in understanding the rules of flirting and he struggles to form relationships. This most commonly is related to Asperger’s/Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), depression, social anxiety or personality disorders.

10. Abandoned: Pervasive feelings of being misunderstood, neglected, abandoned or deserted. He feels alone in the world and that no one seems to care about his troubles or descent into increasing pain.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: A term first coined by Meloy (2014), this describes behaviors that threaten others. They are often impulsive, affective, adrenaline-filled actions that should be seen as approach behaviors moving toward harming attractive women, the alpha males who have them and a society that unjustly supports this biological deck stacked against the incel.

12. Howling: A term coined by Calhoun and Westin (2009), howling refers to conditional, transient threats that are made against others primarily to intimidate and to force a fight, flight, or flee reaction. This howling often occurs on social media.

13. Suicide: The person makes a suicide attempt or statement. This is often done out of frustration and may be an attempt to control and influence a woman or others. These suicide attempts can occur frequently and are often related to the incel’s frustration in dating relationships

14. Past Attacks: He references past attacks, shootings or negative actions toward women to praise to other violent actors. This can occur in writing, on social media or be spoken to friends, classmates and co-workers. This may include an infatuation with prior killers/actors and collecting information about them.

15. Redpill: He seeks to change his behavior, status or worth through physical exercise, cosmetic surgery, or obtaining wealth to attract women. He believes these efforts will make a less genetically worthy male be able to obtain a higher rated female through altering aspects of his appearance, increasing wealth or status.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: He is frequently exposed to incel and/or white supremacist/nationalist, homophobic, ablest, ageist, transphobic, or anti-Semitic ideas through peers, media, and family messaging and/or websites and discussion boards. Alternative viewpoints are routinely dismissed without exploration or empathy.

17. Rejection: Women reject advances from the person related to sexual approach with the assumed reason being related to genetics, lack of women’s interest, or their preference for males who are superior.

18. Bullied: He is teased about his appearance, especially being sexually unattractive or unable to find a sexual partner. This bullying often occurs in front of others, further escalating his difficulty finding connections with others and embarrassing him, causing feelings of negative self-worth or lack of acceptance from others.

19. Failure to Change: Previous attempts at changing thoughts or behaviors have been met with frustration and exacerbation. These change attempts are often steps in the right direction such as attending therapy, learning more about dating from apps or self-help books, and listening to and connecting with friends.

20. Free Fall: He exhibits a low sense of self-worth and has experienced difficulty finding acceptance from others, such as friends or parents. There may have been abuse, traumatic loss, or family change/discord, all feeding into feelings of worthlessness.

Scoring examples: Elliot Rodger and George Sodini

Rodger's score: 19.5/20

Sodini's score: 17.5/20

JFL, no wonder psychology is such a joke of a field. It has the most academic fraud and no reproducibility in its community (other than economics I think).
 
Ever since the 70s psychology have turned into worthless pseudo-science.
 
Since when has misoginy stop being a moral subjective judgement to become an objective scientific term? lmao

Anyway, its obvious that half of what they write is false. Almost no incel is violent, and ive never heard of an incel raping people. But, for them, its like a common trait lmao
At least they tried. This is going nowhere anyway. At least, until we politically organize. Until then, a bit of info mixed with false propaganda is all society needs to keep sure we suffer and die in a societal harmless way.

from a simp (<2) to the next saint (>18).
:feelskek:
 
I just went ahead and replied to these cucks.

1. Misogyny: any misogyny expressed by incels is simply a normal and healthy reactionary basic survival response measure to the hatred posed against us by women/society via rampant misandry and toxic femininity.

2. Racism: Whites be they incels or normies don't owe any other races anything and to say as much is not being racist or an act of hate but simply pure fact.

3. Blackpill: This is yet another instance of Jew controlled academia projecting it's own toxic beliefs on a group it views as it's opponents. Incels are individuals and not simply a group and thus not all incels want to kill Chads or have rape fantasies about Stacies. For most incels accepting the black pill simply means accepting the truth which is to put it plainly that all women care about as it concerns mate selection is that a man have looks, money or status but especially looks. If he has none of those traits or features his chances at ever having a relationship or creating a family with a woman are pretty much zero.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: To put this section more clearly incels may see ourselves as subhuman shit due to our failure with women but quickly come to realize various discrepancies over time that reveal to us that we're simply parroting society's own negative view of ourselves when we engage in this kind of thinking and we examine the rest of our lives and acheivements and quickly come to realize how we were smart and or valueable in this or that area and eventually realize that we do have worth after all despite our previous negative summation of ourselves that follows societies negative line of thinking towards us. That said when we realize quite often that we are more intelligent and have far more common sense than the average woman this can create both a resentment and a god like feeling in incels that tells us that there's no truly good reason for us not having a normal and happy life other than our looks since again usually the majority of us are quite intelligent and much moreso than the opposite sex which frustratingly in their stupidity somehow stands as the gatekeepers preventing us from having a happy and fulfilled normal life by instead turning themselves and their bodies over to Chad bad boy thugs who will sooner impregnate and abandon them and leave them and sometimes outright kill them than give any incel male a chance to ascend with them thereby ending his inceldom.

5. Fame seeking: All human beings intrinsically seek a sense of purpose and self worthiness. Fame is primarily sought by an incel because it is but one of the three major means by which a woman finds a man attractive and seeks him out to be her mate.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: Naturally. The rage is a result of correctly recognizing how stupid the average alpha male or Stacy is as well society at large. Incels generally are smarter and it is a frustrating thing indeed to correctly understand that you've been locked out of the mating game due not to a lack of wits but a few inches of improperly shaped bone.

7. Hopelessness: Of course. Anyone would be unless they were born with a natural proclivity to become a monk.

8. Catastrophe: Naturally as its just one failure piling up onto another.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: I can't see much wrong about this definition.

10. Abandoned: All true.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: The amount of incels that have gone on shooting rampages or that have attacked others is so ridiculously small it is a statistical zero percent. Attacks on girlfriends, domestic abuse, etc, etc are far more likely to be carried out by Chads of various stripes than any incel.

12. Howling: Incels don't make many if any threats as we know ZOG glowniggers are always watching looking for another innocent person to lock away for "thought crime". No, This type of thing is more common among normie leftists on Twitter and other toxic leftist filled internet venues.

13. Suicide: When it comes to incels and suicide we're more likely to go through with it than use it as some kind of guilt power play over others.

14. Past Attacks: And why wouldn't an incel do this? It shows the incel is building a moral case for violence and isn't someone who simply engages in violence for violence sake.

15. Redpill: Certainly. Whats the problem? It seems this is what society wants and hopes would work for us but it seldom ever does.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: Incorrect. All these other viewpoints you speak about that supposedly have been immediately dismissed have actually been believed in by the incel during the first half of their life known in the community as the "blue pilled phase" In other words we believed your garbage and your lies and found them to be so and cast them off looking for other answers and like it or not when it comes to needless human suffering and the reasons for it and whats behind it all roads almost inevitable lead to the Jew.

17. Rejection: Naturally. What other possible explanation could be given here?

18. Bullied: Certainly. Normies can be very cruel and needlessly so at that.

19. Failure to Change: You call these things steps in the right direction only because it makes you feel good as this is accepted societal wisdom but why the incel inevitably gives up and returns to his previous ways is because he is correct about women and society. For if he were not society's dating books and apps and therapists would all be able to get him that which he desires most and that which can only help him which of course is a loving, loyal girlfriend.

20. Free Fall: Of course. Family's tend to want grandchildren and for their offspring to start a new family as this creates the opportunity for typical family related events such as baby showers, family dinners, spending Christmas's together etc so of course the family of an incel may try and shame him or make him feel worthless if he doesn't already due to not being able to successfully pairbond because they think he's the problem and are trying to motivate him to get a girlfriend which they in their ignorance believe is such an easy thing to do but in reality thus is only easy for Chad and Chad only.
 
I just went ahead and replied to these cucks.

1. Misogyny: any misogyny expressed by incels is simply a normal and healthy reactionary basic survival response measure to the hatred posed against us by women/society via rampant misandry and toxic femininity.

2. Racism: Whites be they incels or normies don't owe any other races anything and to say as much is not being racist or an act of hate but simply pure fact.

3. Blackpill: This is yet another instance of Jew controlled academia projecting it's own toxic beliefs on a group it views as it's opponents. Incels are individuals and not simply a group and thus not all incels want to kill Chads or have rape fantasies about Stacies. For most incels accepting the black pill simply means accepting the truth which is to put it plainly that all women care about as it concerns mate selection is that a man have looks, money or status but especially looks. If he has none of those traits or features his chances at ever having a relationship or creating a family with a woman are pretty much zero.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: To put this section more clearly incels may see ourselves as subhuman shit due to our failure with women but quickly come to realize various discrepancies over time that reveal to us that we're simply parroting society's own negative view of ourselves when we engage in this kind of thinking and we examine the rest of our lives and acheivements and quickly come to realize how we were smart and or valueable in this or that area and eventually realize that we do have worth after all despite our previous negative summation of ourselves that follows societies negative line of thinking towards us. That said when we realize quite often that we are more intelligent and have far more common sense than the average woman this can create both a resentment and a god like feeling in incels that tells us that there's no truly good reason for us not having a normal and happy life other than our looks since again usually the majority of us are quite intelligent and much moreso than the opposite sex which frustratingly in their stupidity somehow stands as the gatekeepers preventing us from having a happy and fulfilled normal life by instead turning themselves and their bodies over to Chad bad boy thugs who will sooner impregnate and abandon them and leave them and sometimes outright kill them than give any incel male a chance to ascend with them thereby ending his inceldom.

5. Fame seeking: All human beings intrinsically seek a sense of purpose and self worthiness. Fame is primarily sought by an incel because it is but one of the three major means by which a woman finds a man attractive and seeks him out to be her mate.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: Naturally. The rage is a result of correctly recognizing how stupid the average alpha male or Stacy is as well society at large. Incels generally are smarter and it is a frustrating thing indeed to correctly understand that you've been locked out of the mating game due not to a lack of wits but a few inches of improperly shaped bone.

7. Hopelessness: Of course. Anyone would be unless they were born with a natural proclivity to become a monk.

8. Catastrophe: Naturally as its just one failure piling up onto another.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: I can't see much wrong about this definition.

10. Abandoned: All true.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: The amount of incels that have gone on shooting rampages or that have attacked others is so ridiculously small it is a statistical zero percent. Attacks on girlfriends, domestic abuse, etc, etc are far more likely to be carried out by Chads of various stripes than any incel.

12. Howling: Incels don't make many if any threats as we know ZOG glowniggers are always watching looking for another innocent person to lock away for "thought crime". No, This type of thing is more common among normie leftists on Twitter and other toxic leftist filled internet venues.

13. Suicide: When it comes to incels and suicide we're more likely to go through with it than use it as some kind of guilt power play over others.

14. Past Attacks: And why wouldn't an incel do this? It shows the incel is building a moral case for violence and isn't someone who simply engages in violence for violence sake.

15. Redpill: Certainly. Whats the problem? It seems this is what society wants and hopes would work for us but it seldom ever does.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: Incorrect. All these other viewpoints you speak about that supposedly have been immediately dismissed have actually been believed in by the incel during the first half of their life known in the community as the "blue pilled phase" In other words we believed your garbage and your lies and found them to be so and cast them off looking for other answers and like it or not when it comes to needless human suffering and the reasons for it and whats behind it all roads almost inevitable lead to the Jew.

17. Rejection: Naturally. What other possible explanation could be given here?

18. Bullied: Certainly. Normies can be very cruel and needlessly so at that.

19. Failure to Change: You call these things steps in the right direction only because it makes you feel good as this is accepted societal wisdom but why the incel inevitably gives up and returns to his previous ways is because he is correct about women and society. For if he were not society's dating books and apps and therapists would all be able to get him that which he desires most and that which can only help him which of course is a loving, loyal girlfriend.

20. Free Fall: Of course. Family's tend to want grandchildren and for their offspring to start a new family as this creates the opportunity for typical family related events such as baby showers, family dinners, spending Christmas's together etc so of course the family of an incel may try and shame him or make him feel worthless if he doesn't already due to not being able to successfully pairbond because they think he's the problem and are trying to motivate him to get a girlfriend which they in their ignorance believe is such an easy thing to do but in reality thus is only easy for Chad and Chad only.

Email this to Van Brunt :feelsokman::feelsLSD:

 
Do you know if there is a free copy of the book somewhere?
 
Do you know if there is a free copy of the book somewhere?

I cant find a free copy anywhere. Im probably gonna buy it. I wish i could get it without givin my money to that fat fuck
 
Anyone that wants to email my reply to that cunt may do so.
 
I cant find a free copy anywhere. Im probably gonna buy it. I wish i could get it without givin my money to that fat fuck
If it's any consolation, academic publishers are so insanely powerful that most authors usually only see pennies.
 
I've been doing a bit of light reading lately.

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It's actually not a bad read. (Routledge) Van Brunt and Taylor are professionals, writing for professionals, so their knowledge of and research into the incelosphere is far more polished and thorough than most other publications. The tone of this book has none of the outrage-porn quality I've come to expect from deranged Redditors and femoid journalists when they discuss the incel community; instead, it's fairly clininal.

I've thought about writing a thread about the book, but considering its length it'd probably be a multi-thread essay. Maybe I will.

For now, I'd just like to ask what everyone thinks of the Incel Indoctrination Rubric.

Scoring the Incel Indoctrination Rubric

The IIR is scored into 4 categories of 5 traits each, for a combined total of 20 points.

Give yourself 1 point if you believe a trait is "fully present". Score 0.75, 0.5, and 0.25 points if a trait is "major", "moderate", or "minor" respectively. Score zero points if you believe a listed trait is not present.

Thinking

1. Misogyny: Here the individual has an over-arching, negative and limited view of women. He describes women in an objective, one-dimensional manner and sees the heart of their worth as a sexual possession. This often manifests in seeing women in a binary, like Madonna or whore, saint or sinner, Stacy or Becky. He sees a woman’s beauty through a Caucasian, euro-centric perspective (e.g., blonde, tall, blue eyes). When these women are outside of his reach, the only access the incel believes he has is through killing Chads or raping Stacys.

2. Racism: There is a lack of appreciation for diversity or any divergence and a sense of superiority of the white race over all others. This would also include anti-Semitic beliefs, homophobic, and transphobic beliefs.

3. Blackpill: There is an acceptance of the superiority in the genetic characteristics of the alpha male and female. He accepts the futility of the biological fate he has been assigned and lives with a sense of hopelessness, inferiority, and growing rage at the lack of sexual prospects available to him. Given the fatalistic view of this thinking, their only access to women becomes killing Chads or resorting to Stacy rape fantasies.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: This bi-furcated construct exists on two extremes on a spectrum. On the one end, the faulty view of self is overly negative and leads to low self-esteem and value. On the other end, he sees himself as all-powerful and possesses an overly inflated sense of value and entitlement.

5. Fame seeking: There is a larger desire to achieve fame and make a statement, to be the chosen one with a sense of purpose that alluded him throughout his life. This may come at the end of a long struggle where they find worth in the idea of communicating a larger message to society to set things right and un-mask the injustices they have endured.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: There is an intense anger and rage directed toward women, alpha males, other non-white males seen as “less than,” and/or the society at large for contributing to his marginalized status without a chance for redemption.

7. Hopelessness: A pervasive sense of sadness and desperation at the prospect of considering the future. There is a sense of futility and desperateness regarding any positive change in the future

8. Catastrophe: Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup or difficulty obtaining a first date are given a larger, catastrophic emphasis that provide a frame for the individual being a worthless failure.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: A mental or physical illness that creates an increased difficulty in social connection with both interaction and reading social cues. There is a difficulty in understanding the rules of flirting and he struggles to form relationships. This most commonly is related to Asperger’s/Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), depression, social anxiety or personality disorders.

10. Abandoned: Pervasive feelings of being misunderstood, neglected, abandoned or deserted. He feels alone in the world and that no one seems to care about his troubles or descent into increasing pain.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: A term first coined by Meloy (2014), this describes behaviors that threaten others. They are often impulsive, affective, adrenaline-filled actions that should be seen as approach behaviors moving toward harming attractive women, the alpha males who have them and a society that unjustly supports this biological deck stacked against the incel.

12. Howling: A term coined by Calhoun and Westin (2009), howling refers to conditional, transient threats that are made against others primarily to intimidate and to force a fight, flight, or flee reaction. This howling often occurs on social media.

13. Suicide: The person makes a suicide attempt or statement. This is often done out of frustration and may be an attempt to control and influence a woman or others. These suicide attempts can occur frequently and are often related to the incel’s frustration in dating relationships

14. Past Attacks: He references past attacks, shootings or negative actions toward women to praise to other violent actors. This can occur in writing, on social media or be spoken to friends, classmates and co-workers. This may include an infatuation with prior killers/actors and collecting information about them.

15. Redpill: He seeks to change his behavior, status or worth through physical exercise, cosmetic surgery, or obtaining wealth to attract women. He believes these efforts will make a less genetically worthy male be able to obtain a higher rated female through altering aspects of his appearance, increasing wealth or status.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: He is frequently exposed to incel and/or white supremacist/nationalist, homophobic, ablest, ageist, transphobic, or anti-Semitic ideas through peers, media, and family messaging and/or websites and discussion boards. Alternative viewpoints are routinely dismissed without exploration or empathy.

17. Rejection: Women reject advances from the person related to sexual approach with the assumed reason being related to genetics, lack of women’s interest, or their preference for males who are superior.

18. Bullied: He is teased about his appearance, especially being sexually unattractive or unable to find a sexual partner. This bullying often occurs in front of others, further escalating his difficulty finding connections with others and embarrassing him, causing feelings of negative self-worth or lack of acceptance from others.

19. Failure to Change: Previous attempts at changing thoughts or behaviors have been met with frustration and exacerbation. These change attempts are often steps in the right direction such as attending therapy, learning more about dating from apps or self-help books, and listening to and connecting with friends.

20. Free Fall: He exhibits a low sense of self-worth and has experienced difficulty finding acceptance from others, such as friends or parents. There may have been abuse, traumatic loss, or family change/discord, all feeding into feelings of worthlessness.

Scoring examples: Elliot Rodger and George Sodini

Rodger's score: 19.5/20

Sodini's score: 17.5/20

I got 6.25, if I was younger it would be a lot higher certainly
 
There is a higher likelihood that Chads and normie men will kill women than incels will. Are they gonna make an indoctrination rubric for Chads?

Fucking ridiculous.
Mostly evil normies kill but somehow we are the bad ones
 
There is too many aspects on each point. Being misogynist doesn’t mean you want to kill foids but they linked it. Do they want to kill everyone they hate?

more retards who don’t understand us
 
10.5 for me dawgs. Plus i don't agree with incels being on the same level as white supremacy .
Who ever gets the High score wins btw
 
14/20 for me. Some of this stuff is straight up regurgitated Reddit bullshit.
 
1. Misogyny:

1

2. Racism:

1

3. Blackpill:

1

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception:

.5

5. Fame seeking:

1

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage:

1

7. Hopelessness:

1

8. Catastrophe:

1

9. Mental or Physical Disability:

1

10. Abandoned:

1

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors:

1

12. Howling:

1

13. Suicide:

1

14. Past Attacks:

1

15. Redpill:

0

Environmental

16. Incel Materials:

1

17. Rejection:

1

18. Bullied:

1

19. Failure to Change:

1

20. Free Fall:

1

18.5/20,

I guess I'm more of an incel than I thought :feelzez:

Also the redpill category makes no sense in terms of ADDING to someone's inceldom. Even he largely described the redpill as a state of self-improvement. Therefore I would question any incel that claims 20/20 as impure.

I AM THE GREATEST INCEL IN THIS THREAD SO FAR :incel:
 
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I fucking hate normies making up a lot of shit for something that is simply men who are involutarialy virgins
[UWSL]8. [/UWSL]Catastrophe:[UWSL] Unfortunate negative events such as a breakup [/UWSL]
Jfl in this part, he lost all reason (which he didn't have much) here
 
Where is the section about looks?
 
I scored 13
Same
I just went ahead and replied to these cucks.

1. Misogyny: any misogyny expressed by incels is simply a normal and healthy reactionary basic survival response measure to the hatred posed against us by women/society via rampant misandry and toxic femininity.

2. Racism: Whites be they incels or normies don't owe any other races anything and to say as much is not being racist or an act of hate but simply pure fact.

3. Blackpill: This is yet another instance of Jew controlled academia projecting it's own toxic beliefs on a group it views as it's opponents. Incels are individuals and not simply a group and thus not all incels want to kill Chads or have rape fantasies about Stacies. For most incels accepting the black pill simply means accepting the truth which is to put it plainly that all women care about as it concerns mate selection is that a man have looks, money or status but especially looks. If he has none of those traits or features his chances at ever having a relationship or creating a family with a woman are pretty much zero.

4. Inaccurate Self-Conception: To put this section more clearly incels may see ourselves as subhuman shit due to our failure with women but quickly come to realize various discrepancies over time that reveal to us that we're simply parroting society's own negative view of ourselves when we engage in this kind of thinking and we examine the rest of our lives and acheivements and quickly come to realize how we were smart and or valueable in this or that area and eventually realize that we do have worth after all despite our previous negative summation of ourselves that follows societies negative line of thinking towards us. That said when we realize quite often that we are more intelligent and have far more common sense than the average woman this can create both a resentment and a god like feeling in incels that tells us that there's no truly good reason for us not having a normal and happy life other than our looks since again usually the majority of us are quite intelligent and much moreso than the opposite sex which frustratingly in their stupidity somehow stands as the gatekeepers preventing us from having a happy and fulfilled normal life by instead turning themselves and their bodies over to Chad bad boy thugs who will sooner impregnate and abandon them and leave them and sometimes outright kill them than give any incel male a chance to ascend with them thereby ending his inceldom.

5. Fame seeking: All human beings intrinsically seek a sense of purpose and self worthiness. Fame is primarily sought by an incel because it is but one of the three major means by which a woman finds a man attractive and seeks him out to be her mate.

Feelings/Emotions

6. Rage: Naturally. The rage is a result of correctly recognizing how stupid the average alpha male or Stacy is as well society at large. Incels generally are smarter and it is a frustrating thing indeed to correctly understand that you've been locked out of the mating game due not to a lack of wits but a few inches of improperly shaped bone.

7. Hopelessness: Of course. Anyone would be unless they were born with a natural proclivity to become a monk.

8. Catastrophe: Naturally as its just one failure piling up onto another.

9. Mental or Physical Disability: I can't see much wrong about this definition.

10. Abandoned: All true.

Behavior

11. Approach Behaviors: The amount of incels that have gone on shooting rampages or that have attacked others is so ridiculously small it is a statistical zero percent. Attacks on girlfriends, domestic abuse, etc, etc are far more likely to be carried out by Chads of various stripes than any incel.

12. Howling: Incels don't make many if any threats as we know ZOG glowniggers are always watching looking for another innocent person to lock away for "thought crime". No, This type of thing is more common among normie leftists on Twitter and other toxic leftist filled internet venues.

13. Suicide: When it comes to incels and suicide we're more likely to go through with it than use it as some kind of guilt power play over others.

14. Past Attacks: And why wouldn't an incel do this? It shows the incel is building a moral case for violence and isn't someone who simply engages in violence for violence sake.

15. Redpill: Certainly. Whats the problem? It seems this is what society wants and hopes would work for us but it seldom ever does.

Environmental

16. Incel Materials: Incorrect. All these other viewpoints you speak about that supposedly have been immediately dismissed have actually been believed in by the incel during the first half of their life known in the community as the "blue pilled phase" In other words we believed your garbage and your lies and found them to be so and cast them off looking for other answers and like it or not when it comes to needless human suffering and the reasons for it and whats behind it all roads almost inevitable lead to the Jew.

17. Rejection: Naturally. What other possible explanation could be given here?

18. Bullied: Certainly. Normies can be very cruel and needlessly so at that.

19. Failure to Change: You call these things steps in the right direction only because it makes you feel good as this is accepted societal wisdom but why the incel inevitably gives up and returns to his previous ways is because he is correct about women and society. For if he were not society's dating books and apps and therapists would all be able to get him that which he desires most and that which can only help him which of course is a loving, loyal girlfriend.

20. Free Fall: Of course. Family's tend to want grandchildren and for their offspring to start a new family as this creates the opportunity for typical family related events such as baby showers, family dinners, spending Christmas's together etc so of course the family of an incel may try and shame him or make him feel worthless if he doesn't already due to not being able to successfully pairbond because they think he's the problem and are trying to motivate him to get a girlfriend which they in their ignorance believe is such an easy thing to do but in reality thus is only easy for Chad and Chad only.
very based
 
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I'm an 8, most of my stuff is focused inward and I'm currently trying to better myself. Wouldn't say I'm a misogynist or angry because I've accepted that this is how the world works. I'm like a disabled person tbh, dealt a shit hand that I have learned to accept
 
None of those criteria have anything to do with inceldom. It tells you nothing about the incel status of a person.
 
12, miss me with that self-hate bullshit
 
12.75 Thats lower than I thought honestly. Maybe I just dont want to rape chad and kill stacy hard enough
 
Are they really professionals? More likely professioANALs.

'Euro-centric beauty standards' :soy:. Nah, beauty is objective.

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Since when has misoginy stop being a moral subjective judgement to become an objective scientific term? lmao
This is unironically how leftists and psychologists think. If you engage in wrong think prepare to be classified as mentally ill
 
This is unironically how leftists and psychologists think. If you engage in wrong think prepare to be classified as mentally ill
Not the percieved cute quirky mentally ill either. "oh I sooo have ocd and depression + anxiety". You get classified as the "stay away from this one" and red flagged
 

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