Serious JFL at people here who believe in sub 8

[Deleted member 31364]

Lol at sub 8, if you go to any public place you’ll see a ton of Normies with girlfriends, are they all betabuxx cucks? No majority of them have normal relationships with women and they are looksmatched or within 1 point of each other. You do realize that chadlites and chads are only 5% of population at most you really think 5% fucks every single girl, no there’s not enough to go around, in reality if you are sub 5 is where it’s over, sub 8 is just a retarded incel cope that people on this forum try to feel better about themselves and be like oh at least Normies aren’t getting laid, yea they are, stop this ridiculous cope, @Edmund_Kemper @ThoughtfulCel , @TheDarkEnigma

 

[Mainländer]

It's tough to make a set-in-stone rule but I'd say sub4 is the most accurate one, with the exception of betabuxx of course and possibly BPDs (Only BPD foids can feel attraction to sub4 guys I think, and even these won't usually feel it).

 

[Deleted member 32183]

environment plays a large role
autism is a death sentence
standards for ethnics are also higher

 

[SkramzHandz]

Lol at sub 8, if you go to any public place you’ll see a ton of Normies with girlfriends, are they all betabuxx cucks? No majority of them have normal relationships with women and they are looksmatched or within 1 point of each other. You do realize that chadlites and chads are only 5% of population at most you really think 5% fucks every single girl, no there’s not enough to go around, in reality if you are sub 5 is where it’s over, sub 8 is just a retarded incel cope that people on this forum try to feel better about themselves and be like oh at least Normies aren’t getting laid, yea they are, stop this ridiculous cope, @Edmund_Kemper @ThoughtfulCel , @TheDarkEnigma

Using all caps won't make you alpha.

 

[Deleted member 31364]

Using all caps won't make you alpha.

not all caps it's size 26 font, learn the difference, also do you happen to believe in sub 8

 

[SkramzHandz]

not all caps it's size 26 font, learn the difference, also do you happen to believe in sub 8

I believe in sub 26 font

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Lol at sub 8, if you go to any public place you’ll see a ton of Normies with girlfriends, are they all betabuxx cucks? No majority of them have normal relationships with women and they are looksmatched or within 1 point of each other. You do realize that chadlites and chads are only 5% of population at most you really think 5% fucks every single girl, no there’s not enough to go around, in reality if you are sub 5 is where it’s over, sub 8 is just a retarded incel cope that people on this forum try to feel better about themselves and be like oh at least Normies aren’t getting laid, yea they are, stop this ridiculous cope, @Edmund_Kemper @ThoughtfulCel , @TheDarkEnigma

With normies though, their chances are lower than Chads, and they are usually with at most Becky-tier foids.

 

[Deleted member 31364]

With normies though, their chances are lower than Chads, and they are usually at most Becky-tier foids.

that is better than landwhales though, most normies are with girls who are 4-6/10, that's decent

I wouldn't say 1 point

that's cope, only low tier normies incel in denials 4/10 men have to resort to landwhales, most normies are with okay looking girls, some of their gf's even look better than them

 

[Ping And Pong]

Anyone who believes in sub8 is either retarded or mentalcel hightier normie.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

that is better than landwhales though, most normies are with girls who are 4-6/10, that's decent

Yeah, but they’re not going to be young foids in their prime. Most are foids who are a bit past their prime and approaching the wall and who already have mileage.

Hypergamy still persists, but they have harder time getting Chads because lower-tier foids have to compete with prime Stacies for the most valued male, so they settle for normies instead.

 

[Deleted member 31641]

The problem is that most of the normie relationships arent based on attraction, they are settled, thats why we hear so many complaints about it and how much effort a relationship takes, yeah because its hard to maintain it if the other half doesnt love you. In reality, foids will never be satisfied even with a 10/10 gigachad, they will always want a more handsome, taller, wider, stronger bf

 

[Deleted member 31364]

Yeah, but they’re not going to be young foids in their prime. Most are foids who are a bit past their prime and approaching the wall and who already have mileage.

Hypergamy still persists, but they have harder time getting Chads because lower-tier foids have to compete with prime Stacies for the most valued male, so they settle for normies instead.

you will not get prime jb stacies, that's for teenage chadlites only, but getting an okay looking becky is pretty good if you're a normie, and that's what most of them have

 

[Deleted member 23634]

im socially retarded and tired all the time, combine with the fact im 4/10 in looks makes me incel.

 

[based_meme]

What is sub 8?

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Lol at sub 8, if you go to any public place you’ll see a ton of Normies with girlfriends, are they all betabuxx cucks? No majority of them have normal relationships with women and they are looksmatched or within 1 point of each other. You do realize that chadlites and chads are only 5% of population at most you really think 5% fucks every single girl, no there’s not enough to go around, in reality if you are sub 5 is where it’s over, sub 8 is just a retarded incel cope that people on this forum try to feel better about themselves and be like oh at least Normies aren’t getting laid, yea they are, stop this ridiculous cope, @Edmund_Kemper @ThoughtfulCel , @TheDarkEnigma

sub 8 means she isn't physically attracted to them.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

Vast majority of normoid pairs can be analysed with blackpill theories.

if the "man" is 5'8" - 5'10" then he has to be noticeably good looking and the whore hole is below average looking and/or fat.

The men are are always NTmaxxed and never sperg. They have friends and social life

If the man is tall (let's say above 6'2") then he can afford to have an average face

Thugmaxxed ethnics who are usually manlet framelets and sometimes even ugly. NTmaxxed, no inhibition, dominance. There is a niche for this. Works for arabs and blacks in the West


Settledownmaxxed couples, whore hole is visibly repulsed by the man, they look like friends in public, whore hole is clearly settling down and giving ugly average guy a chance, dead bedroom. These relationships are unhappy and result in 1) single motherhood and child support paying cuck or 2) marriagemaxxed cuck if he earns well

Women are ATTRACTED to 8-10 men. If a woman is not capable of getting a Chad (simply because they are so rare and women are in abundance) she needs to settle down for less. That is coping for both men and women. Woman is not interested in him. He has to dumpsterdive to get a woman who isn't even into him.

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

Anyone who believes in sub8 is either retarded or mentalcel hightier normie.

Tbh

 

[ordinaryotaku]

I don't believe in sub-8, but anyone below a 6 who has a girlfriend is definitely being used for something.

 

[Ellsworth]

I partially agree that you do some many sub 8 men with girls. Even a lot of ugly men. However the difference between a sub 8 and 8+ relationship is the sub 8 man will be treated completely different by the female. Quite poorly in most cases. And sex; yeah he will get sex, just not as much nor as passionate or wild as what Chad will get.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

I don't believe in sub-8, but anyone below a 6 who has a girlfriend is definitely being used for something.

More like below 5

 

[incelerated]

are they all betabuxx cucks?

Yes they are. Every single one of them.
You would know that to be true too if you weren't a 10 year old idiotic infiltrator.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

Women are ATTRACTED to 8-10 men. If a woman is not capable of getting a Chad (simply because they are so rare and women are in abundance) she needs to settle down for less.

 

[Deleted member 26010]

Anyone who believes in sub8 is either retarded or mentalcel hightier normie.

Tbh it just goes to show you how many fakecels are larping here. Too many are young white tallfag mentalcels.

 

[RollD20]

Sub8 is a meme for ‘chadcels’ to justify being here. Just because you can’t pull harems like a 8 or 9 doesn’t mean you’re incel.

 

[Osentaku Otje]

I partially agree that you do some many sub 8 men with girls. Even a lot of ugly men. However the difference between a sub 8 and 8+ relationship is the sub 8 man will be treated completely different by the female. Quite poorly in most cases. And sex; yeah he will get sex, just not as much nor as passionate or wild as what Chad will get.

yeah it's still a good relationship but the treatmend and overal quality is lowered down if your under 8/10

 

[trying to ascend]

It's tough to make a set-in-stone rule but I'd say sub4 is the most accurate one, with the exception of betabuxx of course and possibly BPDs (Only BPD foids can feel attraction to sub4 guys I think, and even these won't usually feel it).

Sub5*

4/10 can't get shit.

This is 4/10 for example:

Do you really think this guy wouldn't be incel? For sure he would, sub5 are doomed

 

[Therapywasaaste]

Sub 8 is cope for mentalcels and incels who look worse than they think

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

No one actually thinks all sub8 males are incel, yes normies get laid but they don't get respect from their girlfriends and they aren't seen as sexually attractive. That's what it's about.

Vast majority of normoid pairs can be analysed with blackpill theories.

if the "man" is 5'8" - 5'10" then he has to be noticeably good looking and the whore hole is below average looking and/or fat.

The men are are always NTmaxxed and never sperg. They have friends and social life

If the man is tall (let's say above 6'2") then he can afford to have an average face

Thugmaxxed ethnics who are usually manlet framelets and sometimes even ugly. NTmaxxed, no inhibition, dominance. There is a niche for this. Works for arabs and blacks in the West


Settledownmaxxed couples, whore hole is visibly repulsed by the man, they look like friends in public, whore hole is clearly settling down and giving ugly average guy a chance, dead bedroom. These relationships are unhappy and result in 1) single motherhood and child support paying cuck or 2) marriagemaxxed cuck if he earns well

Women are ATTRACTED to 8-10 men. If a woman is not capable of getting a Chad (simply because they are so rare and women are in abundance) she needs to settle down for less. That is coping for both men and women. Woman is not interested in him. He has to dumpsterdive to get a woman who isn't even into him.

Bingo

 

[BecomeTheNew]

yes they are all betabuxx cucks. sub8 need to buy a foid dinner at least once before the foid gives up pussy, chad can just ask her to drive to his house. this is because she's actually attracted to chad while using sub8 for resources and trading pussy or the implication of pussy in return

 

[genma]

Women are ATTRACTED to 8-10 men. If a woman is not capable of getting a Chad (simply because they are so rare and women are in abundance) she needs to settle down for less. That is coping for both men and women. Woman is not interested in him. He has to dumpsterdive to get a woman who isn't even into him.

Correct.

Also, most of those sub-8 looksmatched couples feature a woman who did extensive time on the cock carousel. It is therefore not the case that they have equal value. You're not getting "a great deal" if a 29 year old with a body count north of 150 wants to marry you because she wants a big party in her honor (that's what a wedding is) just like all her friends have had.

She doesn't love you and she will divorce you and take your shit.

You're not winning in life if you spend your teens and twenties miserable and alone and then get scammed by a roastie about one millimeter shy of hitting the wall. My advice would be to go ahead and fuck her, sure. Ascend. Don't deny yourself that. But don't be naive about it. Don't ever marry her.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

Where I live, in London, sub6 is the rule. Occasionally you may see exceptions but 99% of the time, sub6 is law.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

It's the idea that women would overwhelmingly prefer to avoid sub8 males, and only settle for 5 - 7s when they cannot possibly do any better. The "sub8 rule" is more of our way of expressing the skewed reality of hypergamy than trying to codify some sort of societal law.

 

[crew2]

In my experience sub 8 is when you have start having to use workarounds to a greater extent as you work your way down the scale i.e. moneymaxxing, thugmaxxing...whatever else. 8+ and foids will just come to you on the regular without you even trying. 7 and you will get some foids approaching now and again but will need to put some work in at times. 6 will get you lower end foids now and again if they are drunk and below that is where shit gets dire.

So basically Hurt Me Plenty mode is now Nightmare mode in most cases.

 

[Rick prime]

im socially retarded and tired all the time, combine with the fact im 4/10 in looks makes me incel.

Same

 

[radishman]

Even if you get a gf, she ain't gonna be loyal. Not that they are capable mind you.

 

[tanfeo]

cope.

 

[Mainländer]

Sub5*

4/10 can't get shit.

This is 4/10 for example: View attachment 415332

Do you really think this guy wouldn't be incel? For sure he would, sub5 are doomed

Full head of smooth hair, blue eyes, clear skin, mogs me severely even with that longface. If that's 4/10 I must reassess myself.

 

[trying to ascend]

Full head of smooth hair, blue eyes, clear skin, mogs me severely even with that longface. If that's 4/10 I must reassess myself.

Well, he can mog you, but he is still incel, because he is sub5.

You really think women will give a chance to this guy? I really doubt

 

[Mainländer]

You really think women will give a chance to this guy? I really doubt

I mean, apart from the statusmaxxing factor of him being a famous actor, yeah, hardly so nowadays. Especially depending on his location.

 

[GermaniaIncelia]

keep loling until the theatre has been fully burned down.

 

[watcher]

Lol at sub 8, if you go to any public place you’ll see a ton of Normies with girlfriends, are they all betabuxx cucks?

Yes

 

[Incellectual]

Anyone who believes in sub8 is either retarded or mentalcel hightier normie.

I don't believe in sub-8, but anyone below a 6 who has a girlfriend is definitely being used for something.

I'd go with 5 and below but close enough

 

[Deleted member 16390]

a prime 8 guy is literally 1 in 1000,
99% of all foids would find a 7 to 8 guys attractive, this would be more like 50 /1000

 

[Dregster]

Tbh

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Well, he can mog you, but he is still incel, because he is sub5.

You really think women will give a chance to this guy? I really doubt

The guy in that picture is a mid-tier normie at best.

 

[trying to ascend]

The guy in that picture is a mid-tier normie at best.

No, he is a low tier normie, he has lots of upper eyelid exposure, recessive jaw and chin, his eyes are not deep set and he has a long midface along with a big jewish nose

 

[based_meme]

What is sub 8?