Blackpill Why are most looksmaxxers not genetic determinists?

[SnakeCel]

I understand that the looksmaxxing trend went mainstream some time ago and I get that. All the shit with Clavicular and Androgenic and whoever else.

But most of these looksmaxxers are not teaching the blackpill accurately. They are being too generous with it. They spread around this idea that anyone could ascend if they just looksmaxxed hard enough. That might be true for some select few Chadlites and high tier normies, but most normies will need years of consistent looksmaxxing and even hardmaxxing and surgerymaxxing to actually raise their SMV significantly.

Most normies are genetically stuck at sub-8 SMV tier and they just don't want to admit that their genetics are limiting them. It's fine to try to improve somewhat, but pretending like you'll become Chad just by mewing is straight up delusional.

Yes I understand they just want to make money and sell courses and products, but it makes no sense that a lot of young normie men are falling for this delusion. It should be self-evident at the very least.

 

[Belowthesalt]

they just want to make money and sell courses and products

 

[She Does Not Exist]

but it makes no sense that a lot of young normie men are falling for this delusion. It should be self-evident at the very least.

Pussy clouds critical thinking.

 

[Pride]

Cause genetic determinism goes against the entire world view of the normie

 

[SnakeCel]

Cause genetic determinism goes against the entire world view of the normie

They are too prideful to admit they are sub-8 and not attractive?

 

[Pride]

They are too prideful to admit they are sub-8 and not attractive?

This along with the fact that most of them want to believe that they can ascend as long as they try hard

 

[nihilum]

I hate looksmax.org

 

[parbate2025]

I understand that the looksmaxxing trend went mainstream some time ago and I get that. All the shit with Clavicular and Androgenic and whoever else.

But most of these looksmaxxers are not teaching the blackpill accurately. They are being too generous with it. They spread around this idea that anyone could ascend if they just looksmaxxed hard enough. That might be true for some select few Chadlites and high tier normies, but most normies will need years of consistent looksmaxxing and even hardmaxxing and surgerymaxxing to actually raise their SMV significantly.

Most normies are genetically stuck at sub-8 SMV tier and they just don't want to admit that their genetics are limiting them. It's fine to try to improve somewhat, but pretending like you'll become Chad just by mewing is straight up delusional.

Yes I understand they just want to make money and sell courses and products, but it makes no sense that a lot of young normie men are falling for this delusion. It should be self-evident at the very least.

First thing looksmaxxers say is it's genetics and you need to have good diet and hormones in puberty after that only surgery.
When i uses to lurk there most of them were like this but maybe current ones are different

 

[Robocell]

Cause genetic determinism goes against the entire world view of the normie

 

[SubhumanOldcel]

Cause genetic determinism goes against the entire world view of the normie

 

[ndltn]

Because looksmaxxing is failed normie cope. The only effective looksmax is to hardmax, with 99.9% of looksmax forum members not doing any surgery. Double Jaw Surgery can only yield significant ascension results if you were severely recessed or deformed with short face syndrome to begin with.

It's unattainable for most however because it is often over $30000 and insurance only covers it in cases of diagnosed sleep apnea.

 

[TellMomImGone]

most normies will need years of consistent looksmaxxing and even hardmaxxing and surgerymaxxing

I think that’s the point for looksmaxxers. It’s just so many years of consistency. Eventually if you ascend your mindset will be so blackpilled that foids will still be evil anyways, most of them, if not all.

3 years ago I was sub3, now I’m probably sub5, a lot of softmaxxing, I still need to do some surgeries in the future. Anyways my genes are fucking shit and I rather die before passing them; I just wanna be seen as a normal human being.

 

[TellMomImGone]

I think that’s the point for looksmaxxers. It’s just so many years of consistency. Eventually if you ascend your mindset will be so blackpilled that foids will still be evil anyways, most of them, if not all.

3 years ago I was sub3, now I’m probably sub5, a lot of softmaxxing, I still need to do some surgeries in the future. Anyways my genes are fucking shit and I rather die before passing them; I just wanna be seen as a normal human being.

It’s shameful for me to go outside, it was always like that. I was always ashamed.

 

[pleksus]

İts impossible to ascend 2 points higher even with surgery. 5 can not be 7. İts all about genetics.

 

[RandomGuy]

Neanderthal looksmaxxer hit with a hammer.Their culture is cringe and most of the normscum music sucks.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/-zeismncwMM?si=1kh3MUISwmkmvxZ-

 

[UndeadDeadMan]

only covers it in cases of diagnosed sleep apnea

BRUH WHAT... Please elaborate. I was diagnosed with this shit recently, but I don't know what's gonna come out of it. I'm still waiting for more results

 

[ndltn]

BRUH WHAT... Please elaborate. I was diagnosed with this shit recently, but I don't know what's gonna come out of it. I'm still waiting for more results

Brother, your obstructive sleep apnea is likely the result of you having upper and lower jaw recession, constricting the airway and causing it to collapse during sleep. Get your sleep apnea treated in the short term with CPAP or something, and look into getting double jaw surgery for it eventually via consultation with an orthodontist and jaw surgeon.

Would you consider yourself recessed? If so, your looks can improve substantially with double jaw surgery. Insurance can cover the surgery if you have OSA depending on the country.

 

[UndeadDeadMan]

Brother, your obstructive sleep apnea is likely the result of you having upper and lower jaw recession, constricting the airway and causing it to collapse during sleep. Get your sleep apnea treated in the short term with CPAP or something, and look into getting double jaw surgery for it eventually via consultation with an orthodontist and jaw surgeon.

Would you consider yourself recessed? If so, your looks can improve substantially with double jaw surgery. Insurance can cover the surgery if you have OSA depending on the country.

Ok good to know thanks! Yeah I saw one of those CPAP machines, because my neighbour's wife uses them. Sounds like a pain in the ass, but short term I'll probably have to use it.

I know that my jaw is rotated. It's very square on the right but very oval on the left, it's because of the damn asymmetrical legs. The left one is 1cm shorter than the right one. FML