Jesse Owens BBC's Hitler

[Capable_Onion]

And how does it disprove anything, dumbass?

What did Jesse Owens later change his mind to, dumbass?

Did Jesse Owens and New York Daily News writer Paul Gallico both imagine that he was led to Hitler's box and Hitler waved at him?

Jesse Owens later changed his mind that Hitler really did leave because he didn't want to acknowledge nagger "superiority" even though it says also in the article he left to privately congratulate German athletes?

Just because it's in a link doesn't mean I subscribe to everything in the link beside the point I am making, dumbass.

From this point on your just going off of your own speculation.

I've proven time and time again that Hitler didn't like blacks, that the people alongside him hated them aswell, along with multiple occasions of him refusing to acknowledge Owens.

All you have is a simple handwave, that's literally it.

 

[Forum Hero]

From this point on your just going off of your own speculation.

I've proven time and time again that Hitler didn't like blacks, that the people alongside him hated them aswell, along with multiple occasions of him refusing to acknowledge Owens.

All you have is a simple handwave, that's literally it.

New York Daily News writer Paul Gallico said it, he was there.
"Then, so as not to give international offence and start another naval building race, Hitler received the victorious German hammer throwers in private."

After he received Owens in his box, waved at him, smiled at him, and gave him a salute.

The premise of your thread is wrong, as I have proven time and time again, queer.

 

[Capable_Onion]

After he received Owens in his box, waved at him, smiled at him, and gave him a salute.

It never said anything about Hitler "smiling" it just said he waved at him, nothing else.

 

[Forum Hero]

It never said anything about Hitler "smiling" it just said he waved at him, nothing else.

To reiterate:
Hitler left on the first day before any black had even won
IOC got pissy about this, so Hitler stopped congratulating winners after the first day
Hitler allowed Jesse Owens to approach the "honor box" where he saluted Owens, as reported by Paul Gallico writer for the New York Daily News
Hitler then left, not to snub nigger Jesse Owens, but to congratulate German winners in private, also as reported by Paul Gallico
Jesse Owens said he thought Hitler smiled and waved at him, black Olympian John Woodruff also said he saw Hitler acknowledge Owens with Hitler and Owens exchanging salutes
The video you posted is lies and stupidity and I have to wonder why white men would gloat about that, "see, the nazis thought whites were 'superior' but Jesse Owens proved that really blacks are superior because they can run in a straight line faster," contradictory too because also the evil nazis said letting blacks compete was like letting wild animals compete and it wasn't fair. So: nazis think the "aryan man" should win all contests because they foolishly think whites are super duper superior, and nazis think it's not fair to let blacks compete at running any more than letting a gazelle compete because blacks are fast primitives. Left is right, and right is left, jewish propaganda pieces get my head spinning.

 

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[LastGerman]

Stormfrontcels on suicidewatch

How? Everybody in the scene is aware of it.

In a secret action in 1937, some 400 of the Rhineland children were forcibly sterilised. Other black Germans went into hiding or fled the country to escape sterilisation, while news of friends and relatives who had not escaped intensified the fear that dominated people’s lives.

Black Germans is an oxymoron.

 

[Capable_Onion]

This would be substantial evidence if Owens didn't retract his claims as said here:

Hitler, not wanting to acknowledge a non-Aryan athlete’s ability, left the stadium. Although Owens himself initially insisted that it was not true (he later claimed it was)

Hitler left on the first day before any black had even won

False, according to the article there were eighteen who participated:

The Berlin Olympics officially opened on August 1, 1936. Eighteen African American athletes competed.

 

[Forum Hero]

This would be substantial evidence if Owens didn't retract his claims as said here:

And this wouldn't even be a good point if Paul Gallico didn't write:
"Then, so as not to give international offence and start another naval building race, Hitler received the victorious German hammer throwers in private."

Hmm. I wonder what makes more sense, Hitler left to privately congratulate German winners, or Hitler left because he had to hurry away before he would be forced to acknowledge a Negro athlete even though Paul Gallico, Jesse Owens (later "changed his mind") and John Woodruff all said Hitler did indeed acknowledge Jesse Owens, and he already had a policy of not shaking hands and publicly congratulating ANY athlete.

False, according to the article there were eighteen who participated:

False use of false, I said won not participated.

Keep at it, man. Eventually I'll just stop replying and then that means you win!

 

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[Capable_Onion]

And this wouldn't even be a good point if Paul Gallico didn't write:
"Then, so as not to give international offence and start another naval building race, Hitler received the victorious German hammer throwers in private."

Hmm. I wonder what makes more sense, Hitler left to privately congratulate German winners, or Hitler left because he had to hurry away before he would be forced to acknowledge a Negro athlete even though Paul Gallico, Jesse Owens (later "changed his mind")

Yes, I agree completely with this statement, he chose to congratulate german hammer throwers rather than the winner of the event.

he already had a policy of not shaking hands and publicly congratulating ANY athlete.

Except for the german and finnish that he had congratulated during the event

False use of false, I said won not participated.

Excluding Owens himself

David Albritton	High jump, silver
Cornelius Johnson	High jump, gold
James LuValle	400-meter run, bronze
Ralph Metcalfe	4x100-meter relay, gold 100-meter dash,silver

Frederick Pollard, Jr	100-meter hurdles, bronze
Matthew Robinson	200-meter dash, silver
Archie Williams	400-meter run, gold
Jack Wilson	Bantamweight boxing, silver
John Woodruff	800-meter run, gold

 

[LastGerman]

And this wouldn't even be a good point if Paul Gallico didn't write:
"Then, so as not to give international offence and start another naval building race, Hitler received the victorious German hammer throwers in private."

Hmm. I wonder what makes more sense, Hitler left to privately congratulate German winners, or Hitler left because he had to hurry away before he would be forced to acknowledge a Negro athlete even though Paul Gallico, Jesse Owens (later "changed his mind") and John Woodruff all said Hitler did indeed acknowledge Jesse Owens, and he already had a policy of not shaking hands and publicly congratulating ANY athlete.

Even back then the (((media))) was just a fucking shitfest: "Ehhhhh he did not shake his hands or so... I do not actually know... but literally racist brah."

What a bunch of whiny fucking cucks.

 

[Smitty]

HEIL HITLER

 

[Forum Hero]

Yes, I agree completely with this statement, he chose to congratulate german hammer throwers rather than the winner of the event.

What does this even mean? The hammer throwers won their own event.

Except for the german and finnish that he had congratulated during the event

On the first day. Before he had left, on the first day.

Excluding Owens himself

​

David Albritton	High jump, silver
Cornelius Johnson	High jump, gold
James LuValle	400-meter run, bronze
Ralph Metcalfe	4x100-meter relay, gold 100-meter dash,silver

​

Frederick Pollard, Jr	100-meter hurdles, bronze
Matthew Robinson	200-meter dash, silver
Archie Williams	400-meter run, gold
Jack Wilson	Bantamweight boxing, silver
John Woodruff	800-meter run, gold

None of them had won before Hitler left for the day, and there are only 4 gold winners out of 9 listed competitors and 10 medals there. This is just going in circles because you are an obtuse fucking retard.

 

[Capable_Onion]

What does this even mean? The hammer throwers won their own event.

Which is more important, hammer throwing or congratulating the person who actually won the entire event

None of them had won before Hitler left for the day

False:

Cornelius Johnson
August 2, 1936

The men's high jump event was part of the track and field athletics programme at the 1936 Summer Olympics. The competition was held on August 2, 1936. The final was won by Cornelius Johnson of the United States.

 

[Forum Hero]

Which is more important, hammer throwing or congratulating the person who actually won the entire event

What "entire event" did he win? Do you understand that in the Olympics there are many different events and winners and that there isn't one winner of the "entire event"? Jesse Owens competed in 3 sprinting events (100m, 200m, and the relay) and the long jump.

False:

you keep saying that word, I do not think you know what it means
"On the first day, Hitler met and shook hands with all the German gold medalists. (He also shook hands with a few Finnish athletes.) That night, Hitler left the stadium before African American high jumper Cornelius Johnson won his first gold medal; Hitler’s staff maintained that he had a pre-scheduled appointment. "


Gradually I began to hate them

 

[Capable_Onion]

What "entire event" did he win? Do you understand that in the Olympics there are many different events and winners and that there isn't one winner of the "entire event"? Jesse Owens competed in 3 sprinting events (100m, 200m, and the relay) and long jump.

I could really care less of your opinion on the matter, officially speaking, he's considered as the champion of that year, which is all that really matters.

you keep saying that word, I do not think you know what it means
"On the first day, Hitler met and shook hands with all the German gold medalists. (He also shook hands with a few Finnish athletes.) That night, Hitler left the stadium before African American high jumper Cornelius Johnson won his first gold medal; Hitler’s staff maintained that he had a pre-scheduled appointment. "

Very convenient that he leaves just so that he doesn't have to shake either of their hands isn't it?

Just before Johnson was to be decorated, Hitler left the stadium. A Nazi spokesman explained that Hitler's exit had been pre-scheduled, but no one believes that.

 

[Forum Hero]

I could really care less of your opinion on the matter, officially speaking, he's considered as the champion of that year, which is all that really matters.

Yeah, he was a champion in the events that he competed in. There were many champions, they're called the gold medal winners of all the different various events.

That's not a matter of opinion, dumbass. You have no concept of how the Olympics play out.

Very convenient that he leaves just so that he doesn't have to shake either of their hands isn't it?

 

[Capable_Onion]

Yeah, he was a champion in the events that he competed in. There were many champions, they're called the gold medal winners of all the different various events.

That's not a matter of opinion, dumbass. You have no concept of how the Olympics play out.

He got the most gold medals out of them all, in my book that would make him champion.

 

[Forum Hero]

He got the most gold medals out of them all, in my book that would make him champion.

So Michael Phelps is the champion of all champions because he has the most golds of all time?

Cool. White power!!!

Dumb way of thinking. Athletes train their specific sport, a wrestler is a specific champion in his weight division. Just because there are more sprinting events or more swimming events doesn't make that dude "champion of the Olympics," you literally just made that up because you read "champion" and thought he was the winner of the Olympics overall.

 

[Capable_Onion]

So Michael Phelps is the champion of all champions because he has the most golds of all time?

Cool. White power!!!

Dumb way of thinking. Athletes train their specific sport, a wrestler is a specific champion in his weight division. Just because there are more sprinting events or more swimming events doesn't make that dude "champion of the Olympics," you literally just made that up because you read "champion" and thought he was the winner of the Olympics overall.

If all your going to do is present your own headcannon by twisting and disassembling the narrative then there's no point debating against you.

Try coming back with some actual facts and then maybe I'll consider recognizing you.

 

[Forum Hero]

If all your going to do is present your own headcannon by twisting and disassembling the narrative then there's no point debating against you.

Try coming back with some actual facts and then maybe I'll consider recognizing you.

You can't even admit that your dumb ass thought Jesse Owens was the "winner of the whole event" as in the winner of the whole Olympics because when you saw "champion" you thought that meant for the whole Olympics and not just his specific events. Now it's head cannon that I don't believe there's one singular winner of all the Olympics instead of winners in each event, I.E. the gold medalists.

 

[Capable_Onion]

You can't even admit that your dumb ass thought Jesse Owens was the "winner of the whole event" as in the winner of the whole Olympics because when you saw "champion" you thought that meant for the whole Olympics and not just his specific events. Now it's head cannon that I don't believe there's one singular winner of all the Olympics instead of winners in each event, I.E. the gold medalists.

I never said that he was better than everyone else, I said that he had the most medals within his category, which makes him the winner overall since he excelled the most out of all of the participants.

How is the winner of the Olympics determined?

The common method of determining the success of countries at the Olympic Games is a ranking order based first on the number of gold medals won, then silver and bronze. ... Another commonly used method (the predominent method used in the USA) is to rank countries based on the total medals won.

Now shutup and be quiet already

 

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Female privilege: getting titmogged or assmogged is nothing compared to graphic dickmogging

 

[Forum Hero]

I never said that he was better than everyone else, I said that he had the most medals within his category, which makes him the winner overall since he excelled the most out of all of the participants.

You called him the "winner of the whole event" and THE champion instead of a champion. You called it official. You're fucking funny, man.

Now shutup and be quiet already

that's for countries retard.

It's not even an "official" thing you utter mongoloid. Different countries weight the value of their medals differently, eg most countries think the only thing that matters is gold count, USA likes to count "total" medals the same, some countries count gold for more but also tally in silvers and bronzes. It's not an official thing, it's for bragging rights. You thought Jesse Owens was officially the "champion of the Olympics," the "winner of the whole event." It's just comical at this point.

 

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It is unfair because black mens bodies are designed for faster running, I assume it is because of all the wild animals in Africa they had to run away from but I have never researched the topic.

 

[Capable_Onion]

You called him the "winner of the whole event" and THE champion instead of a champion. You called it official. You're fucking funny, man.

It's not even an "official" thing you utter mongoloid. Different countries weight the value of their medals differently, eg most countries think the only thing that matters is gold count, USA likes to count "total" medals the same, some countries count gold for more but also tally in silvers and bronzes. It's not an official thing, it's for bragging rights. You thought Jesse Owens was officially the "champion of the Olympics," the "winner of the whole event." It's just comical at this point.

He got the most gold medals within the event therefore he was the overall winner.

It's literally the first thing that pops up on google

Hell, he's even under the year in which it takes place when you search it up on wikipedia.

 

[Forum Hero]

He got the most gold medals within the event therefore he was the overall winner.

It's literally the first thing that pops up on google

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Hell, he's even under the year in which it takes place when you search it up on wikipedia.

It doesn't say Jesse Owens "won," as in he was the "winner of the whole event."

It says he won GOLD in those 4 specific events.

Being the "winner of the whole event" or "champion of the Olympics" isn't an "official" thing. And earlier you brought up a thing that was clearly talking about countries, for bragging rights, again not an official title.

Jesse Owens was a champion at the 100m and 200m sprints, long jump, and team relay sprint. Which was impressive but doesn't make him the "winner of the whole event." The German hammer throwers were likewise champions in the hammer throwing event.

The second thing you posted shows all the winners of the 1936 Olympics, in your cap there are already two others besides Owens. There were many winners in many events.

You are a stupid and stubborn donkey.

 

[Capable_Onion]

It doesn't say Jesse Owens "won," as in he was the "winner of the whole event."

It says he won GOLD in those 4 specific events.

He won the most gold medals, meaning he won the event as the most accomplished athlete there.

Being the "winner of the whole event" or "champion of the Olympics" isn't an "official" thing. And earlier you brought up a thing that was clearly talking about countries, for bragging rights, again not an official title.

If you win the most medals you're basically the winner of the event, that's why he gets to be on a pedestal above the other top 2 contenders.

The second thing you posted shows all the winners of the 1936 Olympics, in your cap there are already two others besides Owens. There were many winners in many events.

You are a stupid and stubborn donkey.

Those "winners" only won 1 gold medal each, which didn't even compare to the amount Owens had

 

[Forum Hero]

He won the most gold medals, meaning he won the event as the most accomplished athlete there.

He wasn't the "winner of the whole event," there's no such thing.

Saying he was the most accomplished is a different story. You said he was officially the champion of the Olympics and it was my opinion and "head canon" that he wasn't.

Either way, Hitler got his revenge when white man Michael Phelps became the most accomplished Olympian off all times and put all the "BBC" medal counts to shame!

If you win the most medals you're basically the winner of the event, that's why he gets to be on a pedestal above the other top 2 contenders.

Lol, wtf. That's for EVERY EVENT. There's a gold medal winner, a silver medal winner, and a bronze medal winner, and a podium for EVERY EVENT.

Holy shit. I'm just laughing now. You're arguing from a position that you cannot possibly win. Just admit you are a dummy and thought there really was a champion of the Olympics in totality instead of just gold medal winners/champions per event.

Those "winners" only won 1 gold medal each, which didn't even compare to the amount Owens had

So? If there were 10 competitions for horse dancing (dressage) would the winner of 9 of them be the "winner of the whole event"?

They were champions in their respective events and sports. There is no official title for being the "winner of the whole event."

BTW Germany had the most gold, silver, and bronze medals that year making them the champions according to the other thing you linked when you couldn't comprehend what it was actually talking about.

 

[Deleted member 22999]

I beat Jesses speed times in junior high. Fark that nikka and fark the Germans.

Thats pretty cool tbh

 

[Capable_Onion]

He wasn't the "winner of the event," there's no such thing.

Saying he was the most accomplished is a different story. You said he was officially the champion of the Olympics and it was my opinion and "head canon" that he wasn't.

If you win the most medals during the event by all means you are the winner, since you exceeded everyone else in terms of achievement.

By saying this I'm not saying that the US won the games, but I am saying that they had the leading player.

Lol, wtf. That's for EVERY EVENT. There's a gold medal winner, a silver medal winner, and a bronze medal winner, and a podium for EVERY EVENT.

Holy shit. I'm just laughing now. You're arguing from a position that you cannot possibly win. Just admit you are a dummy and thought there really was a champion of the Olympics in totality instead of just gold medal winners/champions per event.

Yes I know very well that there was more than one category, but none of them gained as many medals as owens.

So? If there were 10 competitions for horse dancing (dressage) would the winner of 9 of them be the "winner of the whole event"?

No, because assumably they wouldn't be apart of the same collective event.

They were champions in their respective events and sports. There is no official title for being the "winner of the whole event."

The olympics is a collective event where people compete for the most medals, it doesn't matter which sport your apart of, if you get the most gold then you get to shine above everyone else.

BTW Germany had the most gold, silver, and bronze medals that year making them the champions according to the other thing you linked when you couldn't comprehend what it was actually talking about.

I never said that germany didn't have the most gold, I said that individually none of their participants had as many as owens, which is why he got so much recognition.

 

[Forum Hero]

No, because assumably they wouldn't be apart of the same collective event.

Dressage is an event in the Olympics. What the fuck are you even talking about? Jesse Owens won 4 separate, unconnected, events. Jesse Owens won the 100 meter sprint, the 200 meter sprint, the long jump, and was part of the 4 man team that won the 4x100 meter relay. None of these events are necessarily connected or have any bearing on each other. There's isn't a tally to determine the "champion of the Olympics." Each athlete is only trying to be champion in theor own respective sport and event/s.

For the last time here is no "winner of the whole event." Repeat after me, there is no winner of the whole event, and it for damn sure isn't official you numbskull.

The olympics is a collective event where people compete for the most medals, it doesn't matter which sport your apart of, if you get the most gold then you get to shine above everyone else.

No. That's not how it works you half-wit. Each event is its own competition. If a competitor wins any event they are a champion in that event. There is no singular "champion of the Olympics" or "winner of the whole event," there isn't a "whole event," there is a collection of events in different sports from track & field, to wrestling, to skiing (before winter games were split from summer), and so on. Most athletes don't have the opportunity to take place in several different events, unlike track and field and swimmers.

Saying he was the most accomplished is one thing, it's not an official thing and it's arguable because there was a German gymnast that won 3 golds, 2 silvers and a bronze that year.

For best overall athlete that used to be considered the winner of the decathlon, which was an event within events. The winner that year was a white American.

 

[Capable_Onion]

Dressage is an event in the Olympics. What the fuck are you even talking about?

But that wasn't your point, in your original post you were talking about a hypothetical scenario if there were multiple dressage events going on at once, you didn't even mention them having anything to do with the olympics.

Jesse Owens won 4 separate, unconnected, events. Jesse Owens won the 100 meter sprint, the 200 meter sprint, the long jump, and was part of the 4 man team that won the 4x100 meter relay. None of these events are necessarily connected or have any bearing on each other. There's isn't a tally to determine the "champion of the Olympics." Each athlete is only trying to be champion in theor own respective sport and event/s.

Not true at all, while each event has it's own seperate competition, they all compete for the most gold medals in the end, and the ones with the most gold are put on a pedestal where they rank them from greatest to least.

For the last time here is no "winner of the whole event." Repeat after me, there is no winner of the whole event, and it for damn sure isn't official you numbskull.

If you get the most gold you're the winner since you exceeded everyone else in terms of points, how hard is that to understand?.

It doesn't matter which sport you're in, if you get gold then you're a gold medalist.

No. That's not how it works you half-wit. Each event is its own competition. If a competitor wins any event they are a champion in that event. There is no singular "champion of the Olympics" or "winner of the whole event," there isn't a "whole event,"

The Olympics is an event within itself, the competitions within them are the things which determine who obtains the most gold medals.

Saying he was the most accomplished is one thing, it's not an official thing and it's arguable because there was a German gymnast that won 3 golds, 2 silvers and a bronze that year.

If he didn't obtain four gold medals then it doesn't really count as "arguable"

 

[Forum Hero]

But that wasn't your point, in your original post you were talking about a hypothetical scenario if there were multiple dressage events going on at once, you didn't even mention them having anything to do with the olympics.

You are painfully stupid.

Dressage is an Olympic sport. The point was if there were 10 horse dancing (dressage) competitions, would the winner of that be the "winner of the whole event" [as in the Olympics which we have been discussing for dozens of posts so obviously I meant 10 competitions in the Olympics]? Why is winning 3 sprinting events better than winning a single wrestling event? Why isn't the winner of the heaviest wrestling event not the "winner of the whole event"? I was gauging whether you thought some medals were better than others, or you think just raw numbers matter. Either way, this doesn't determine an overall Olympic winner, that's your head canon. You didn't even understand the result of your google query, once again your reading comprehension skills are worse than dog shit. And if Owens's 4 golds in 3 sprinting events + a jumping event makes him more accomplished, why isn't the decathlon winner that is the overall winner in 10 events even more accomplished?

Not true at all, while each event has it's own seperate competition, they all compete for the most gold medals in the end, and the ones with the most gold are put on a pedestal where they rank them from greatest to least.

No. No, RETARD. They compete to win their own event. They are competing to win their own sport. The Olympics isn't inherently a competition to see who can accrue the most gold medals. It's many sporting events that happen to be on the same stage. Once again, there is no "winner of the whole event," and you are actually retarded and don't even know what the fuck you are talking about, which should be obvious to everyone with an above room temperature IQ.

If you get the most gold you're the winner since you exceeded everyone else in terms of points, how hard is that to understand?.

Have you ever in your life actually even watched the Olympics you blithering nincompoop?

It doesn't matter which sport you're in, if you get gold then you're a gold medalist.

No shit.

The Olympics is an event within itself, the competitions within them are the things which determine who obtains the most gold medals.

Once again, you are painfully stupid. A wrestler isn't concerned with getting multiple medals, a nordic skiier isn't concerned with how many gold medals track & field or swimmers get. They are trying to win their own events and sports.

If he didn't obtain four gold medals then it doesn't really count as "arguable"

He had 3 golds, 2 silvers and a bronze for 6 medals in total and nearly as many gold, yes that is arguable.

And it used to be decathlon winner was considered the most accomplished. Bruce Jenner when he won was considered the best athlete on the planet.

You are such a pigheaded faggot I hope that you realize that about yourself.

 

[Capable_Onion]

Dressage is an Olympic sport. The point was if there were 10 horse dancing (dressage) competitions, would the winner of that be the "winner of the whole event"

Well yeah, he would, sure, he wouldn't be considered as the winner of the other events in which he didn't participate, but he would still be considered as the olympic champion of that year.

Why is winning 3 sprinting events better than winning a single wrestling event?

Because (as I've been saying) the sprinter would have gotten more gold medals

I was gauging whether you thought some medals were better than others, or you think just raw numbers matter. Either way, this doesn't determine an overall Olympic winner, that's your head canon. You didn't even understand the result of your google query, once again your reading comprehension skills are worse than dog shit. And if Owens's 4 golds in 3 sprinting events + a jumping event makes him more accomplished, why isn't the decathlon winner that is the overall winner in 10 events even more accomplished?

Did he win four gold medals during the event?, if not then I'm sure you can figure out why.

No. No, RETARD. They compete to win their own event. They are competing to win their own sport. The Olympics isn't inherently a competition to see who can accrue the most gold medals. It's many sporting events that happen to be on the same stage. Once again, there is no "winner of the whole event," and you are actually retarded and don't even know what the fuck you are talking about, which should be obvious to everyone with an above room temperature IQ.

Sure, they may compete against their own peers but the goal is the same in the end, win the most gold medals, and you win the event as the most accomplished athlete.

Once again, you are painfully stupid. A wrestler isn't concerned with getting multiple medals, a nordic skiier isn't concerned with how many gold medals track & field or swimmers get. They are trying to win their own events and sports.

If they aren't interested in getting medals then what are they interested in?

He had 3 golds, 2 silvers and a bronze for 6 medals in total and nearly as many gold, yes that is arguable.

Gold is superior to silver and bronze, and Owens has one more than him how is that "arguable"

 

[Forum Hero]

Well yeah, he would, sure, he wouldn't be considered as the winner of the other events in which he didn't participate, but he would still be considered as the olympic champion of that year.

There isn't any such thing, retard. Your quote was about country rankings, for bragging rights, and there was no consensus on how the medals were ranked.

Because (as I've been saying) the sprinter would have gotten more gold medals

Because there were more opportunities for him to get them.

Did he win four gold medals during the event?, if not then I'm sure you can figure out why.

Winning the event with 10 events > winning 4 events.

Sure, they may compete against their own peers but the goal is the same in the end, win the most gold medals, and you win the event as the most accomplished athlete.

No it isn't retard. It's to win their own sport and whatever events they may partake in. Not to win the most gold medals out of all Olympians so that they can be the "winner of the whole event" which nobody in the world besides you thinks is an actual official title.

You also never remarked on Michael Phelps being the "winner of the whole event" 3 different Olympics, and being the ultimate "winner of the whole event" by having by far the most gold medals and medals total. He BWCed the BBCs and shat all over your thread.

If they aren't interested in getting medals then what are they interested in?

They are interested in getting gold medals... in their respective events. Not the most gold medals overall in the whole Olympics.

Gold is superior to silver and bronze, and Owens has one more than him how is that "arguable"

Your champion of the Olympics quote says USA values total medals more. 2 silvers and 1 bronze also beat 1 gold according to your quote.
Checkmate, bitch.

 

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FUCK CUMSKINS

Your face.
Your clownface.
It is white.
Like cum...

 

[Forum Hero]

"The common method of determining the success of [WINNER OF THE WHOLE EVENT] at the Olympic Games is a ranking order based first on the number of gold medals won, then silver and bronze. ... Another commonly used method (the predominent method used in the USA) is to rank countries based on the total medals won."

Gymnast man wins either way and was the winner of the whole event. Most total medals, USA considers him the winner of the whole event.

If gold is 3 points, silver 2 points, and bronze 1 point then the gymnast has 14 points total which is more than the 12 points Jesse Owens has.

If gold is 5 points, silver 3 points, and bronze 1 point, then the gymnast has 22 points, and Jesse Owens has 20 points. Still making the gymnast the winner of the whole event.

If gold is 10 points, silver 5, and bronze 1, a ranking which nobody uses, he still has 41 to 40. (43 to 40 is bronze counts for 3)

By any criteria, the gymnast is the winner of the whole event.

@Capable_Onion Self-owned, and checkmated biatch. Hitler brushed off Jesse Owens because he was a loser, only the German gymnast that was the true winner of the whole event and an Aryan hero deserved his congratulations.

 

[Admiral_Arkantos]

 

[Capable_Onion]

"The common method of determining the success of [WINNER OF THE WHOLE EVENT] at the Olympic Games is a ranking order based first on the number of gold medals won, then silver and bronze. ... Another commonly used method (the predominent method used in the USA) is to rank countries based on the total medals won."

Gymnast man wins either way and was the winner of the whole event. Most total medals, USA considers him the winner of the whole event.

If gold is 3 points, silver 2 points, and bronze 1 point then the gymnast has 14 points total which is more than the 12 points Jesse Owens has.

If gold is 5 points, silver 3 points, and bronze 1 point, then the gymnast has 22 points, and Jesse Owens has 20 points. Still making the gymnast the winner of the whole event.

If gold is 10 points, silver 5, and bronze 1, a ranking which nobody uses, he still has 41 to 40. (43 to 40 is bronze counts for 3)

By any criteria, the gymnast is the winner of the whole event.

The method in which your referring to was not used in the 1936 olympics, during that time they only counted gold, with silver and bronze being within their own category.

That's why Jesse Owens is widely seen as the winner, and as the most competent athlete during the event.

Even if you were to count this in it would only go toward a win for the country, and not an overall win towards the individual, since two silver medals don't make a gold.

@Capable_Onion Self-owned, and checkmated biatch. Hitler brushed off Jesse Owens because he was a loser, only the German gymnast that was the true winner of the whole event and an Aryan hero deserved his congratulations.

You're cherrypicking things out of context, anyone can easily find that he was the winner by looking it up on google, or searching up the olympics itself.

In all truth he was the star of the event.

 

[Forum Hero]

The method in which your referring to was not used in the 1936 olympics, during that time they only counted gold, with silver and bronze being within their own category.

That's why Jesse Owens is widely seen as the winner, and as the most competent athlete during the event.

Even if you were to count this in it would only go toward a win for the country, and not an overall win towards the individual, since two silver medals don't make a gold.



You're cherrypicking things out of context, anyone can easily find that he was the winner by looking it up on google, or searching up the olympics itself.

In all truth he was the star of the event.

The google result you posted you can't even read.

Any way you slice it Konrad Frey was the winner of the whole event. In the USA we count total medals and don't make a distinction between gold silver or bronze, the rest of the countries rank gold more but silver and bronze still count in the points to determine the winner of the whole event. This was started in the first modern Olympics in 1896 to determine the winner of the whole event. In 1896 gold counted for 5 points, but silver actually counted for 4 points in determining the winner of the whole event. By 1936 silver counted for just 3 points. By 1896 and 1936 standards Konrad Frey was the winner of the event, and even by 2016 standards which had a similar scoring system to 1936 Konrad Frey would be the winner of the whole event. This is why Hitler didn't want to shake Jesse Owens hand, because he was a scrub and Hitler knew it would be an insult to the true winner of the whole event to shake that loser's hand.

 

[Capable_Onion]

Any way you slice it Konrad Frey was the winner of the whole event. In the USA we count total medals and don't make a distinction between gold silver or bronze, the rest of the countries rank gold more but silver and bronze still count in the points to determine the winner of the whole event.

What are you talking about, these silver and bronze medals only add up to the points for the country, the individual himself doesn't become a gold medalist by having two silvers because they aren't the same thing.

This was started in the first modern Olympics in 1896 to determine the winner of the whole event. In 1896 gold counted for 5 points, but silver actually counted for 4 points in determining the winner of the whole event. By 1936 silver counted for just 3 points.

As I've said before, these points don't go towards anything except a win for the country, it's never stated that having multiple silvers would put you ahead of the gold medal winners.

By 1896 and 1936 standards Konrad Frey was the winner of the event, and even by 2016 standards which had a similar scoring system to 1936 Konrad Frey would be the winner of the whole event. This is why Hitler didn't want to shake Jesse Owens hand, because he was a scrub and Hitler knew it would be an insult to the true winner of the whole event to shake that loser's hand.

If you can find an article saying that he was the star and that he actually won then maybe I'll believe you.

But for now I'm going to go with the guy who's actually shown within the media as the actual victor.

 

[Forum Hero]

What are you talking about, these silver and bronze medals only add up to the points for the country, the individual himself doesn't become a gold medalist by having two silvers because they aren't the same thing.



As I've said before, these points don't go towards anything except a win for the country, it's never stated that having multiple silvers would put you ahead of the gold medal winners.



If you can find an article saying that he was the star and that he actually won then maybe I'll believe you.

But for now I'm going to go with the guy who's actually shown within the media as the actual victor.

The media is just propaganda and fluff pieces meant to brainwash the masses. I'll go with the historians and the fact that the IOC itself officially declared the German gymnast as the winner of the whole event.

 

[Capable_Onion]

The media is just propaganda and fluff pieces meant to brainwash the masses. I'll go with the historians and the fact that the IOC itself officially declared the German gymnast as the winner of the whole event.

Can you send a link to the article.

This is the closest image I can find and it says nothing about Konrad Frey

 

[Forum Hero]

Can you send a link to the article.

This is the closest image I can find and it says nothing about Konrad Frey

You edited it out. That's a low move, bro.

 

[Capable_Onion]

You edited it out. That's a low move, bro.

Seriously?, is this what you're resorting to?, just admit that you photoshopped the image that you posted.

 

[Forum Hero]

Seriously?, is this what you're resorting to?, just admit that you photoshopped the image that you posted.

I took that screencap straight from wikipedia, that information ahd been on there for years. Now you have edited it out. That's low, that's dirty, that's obscene!

 

[Capable_Onion]

I took that screencap straight from wikipedia, that information ahd been on there for years. Now you have edited it out. That's low, that's dirty, that's obscene!

What about this?, is this photoshopped too?.

 

[Forum Hero]

What about this?, is this photoshopped too?.

No, that's a real image showing that Konrad Frey had the most medals and was the winner of the whole event according to both the American standard and the International standard, and was declared the official winner of the whole event officially by the IOC (International Olympic Committee). I have documents to prove this.

 

[Capable_Onion]

No, that's a real image showing that Konrad Frey had the most medals and was the winner of the whole event according to both the American standard and the International standard, and was declared the official winner of the whole event officially by the IOC (International Olympic Committee). I have documents to prove this.

Konrad Frey is listed below Owens in that image, with giulio listed as third, because gold matters more than either silver or bronze and puts you ahead of other competitors.

And no, I don't want to see your documents because they aren't fucking real, as I've been saying for a while now.