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Theory Is our main problem not having sex or a lack of touch?

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I know it sounds bluepilled but you might think it's sex you need, but it's probably regular touch. Hugs, holding hands, cuddling etc. If you have that consistently, sex doesn't seem as important. You are maybe starving from touch, not sex.
 
it's probably regular touch. Hugs, holding hands, cuddling etc. If you have that consistently, sex doesn't seem as important. You are maybe starving from touch, not sex.
Cope
 
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I know it sounds bluepilled but you might think it's sex you need, but it's probably regular touch. Hugs, holding hands, cuddling etc. If you have that consistently, sex doesn't seem as important. You are maybe starving from touch, not sex.
why differentiate
 
Lack of sex for me I couldn't care less about muh hugging and the other crap.
 
it’s not like you’d know though, is it?
Uh? Hugs and hand holds won't satisfy your sexual needs.

You, as a sexhaver, knows that
 
it’s always more than sex and gf ,the world treats us like monsters and wants us dead
 
wow yeah i have so much sex. i’m not agreeing with OP but none of us will ever know if touch can supplement sex.
We can pay an escort and know, I'm sure a mere hug wouldn't low my sexual urges as having sex with her would.

I mean, there is a reason why men pay escorts to have sex with them, instead of hugging or holding hands. Or that normies ask to have sex instead of keeping holding hands and hugging
 
Lack of touch and female validation
 
I think its more just the aspect that you are seen as lesser than others. I can cope and be without sex or touch, but being seen as a subhuman, being mocked and ridiculed for being inexperienced with women and seen as a loser is far more damaging. At least to me.
 
I want to squeeze a pussy between my fingers, that's the touch I want.
 
I want her to put her sexy hands on my cheeks and pull me to her mouth for a kiss. That's the kind of touch a man needs from a woman.
 
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Our problem is sex! Just look at the site's name: INCELS( involuntary celibates). It's not involuntary cuddlingless/hugless.

Also, anyone can get a hug. Look at the video:





If lack of cuddles was a problem, not getting touches would be exclusively our fault. And it would invalidate our motives to complain.

Not much we can do for this dysgenic type of breed.
Great slur coming from an incel.
 
I know it sounds bluepilled but you might think it's sex you need, but it's probably regular touch. Hugs, holding hands, cuddling etc. If you have that consistently, sex doesn't seem as important. You are maybe starving from touch, not sex.
They're both important, and in maslow's hierarchy something like "a girl touches me on the shoulder" is probably a more basic need than "a girl puts her pussy on my penis".

I don't even think we'd be capable of thriving in a sexual relationship without that foundation of touch from foids that chads take for granted TBH, the lack of it makes us very awkward and distrusting

I'm pretty sure if I was getting regular hand-holding and hugs from a girl who never fucked me but constantly fucked her BF with me in the other room it would drive me bonkers though, so I think sex would seem important in that case.

The ability to tolerate a non-sexual relationship with a girl works better if you know she too is not having a sexual relationship. I don't think it works well if she's having one and choosing not to share that with you.

For example if you had some preteen wife a century or two ago and you lived in an isolated cabin together and you didn't think was fucking guys then you could prob tolerate years of just holding hands with her. But this wouldnkt work so well in modern society where it would be incredibly easy to go fuck Chad and she's probably doing that so the thought of that would poison the handhold-cope.
 
I want sex, but I want emotional support more.
 
They're both important, and in maslow's hierarchy something like "a girl touches me on the shoulder" is probably a more basic need than "a girl puts her pussy on my penis".

I don't even think we'd be capable of thriving in a sexual relationship without that foundation of touch from foids that chads take for granted TBH, the lack of it makes us very awkward and distrusting

I'm pretty sure if I was getting regular hand-holding and hugs from a girl who never fucked me but constantly fucked her BF with me in the other room it would drive me bonkers though, so I think sex would seem important in that case.

The ability to tolerate a non-sexual relationship with a girl works better if you know she too is not having a sexual relationship. I don't think it works well if she's having one and choosing not to share that with you.

For example if you had some preteen wife a century or two ago and you lived in an isolated cabin together and you didn't think was fucking guys then you could prob tolerate years of just holding hands with her. But this wouldnkt work so well in modern society where it would be incredibly easy to go fuck Chad and she's probably doing that so the thought of that would poison the handhold-cope.
I concur.

Very astute perception.
 
No it's just sex and reproduction for me.

Sure hugs and affection is great and all but they don't fulfill my primal needs.
 
No it's just sex and reproduction for me.
Sure hugs and affection is great and all but they don't fulfill my primal needs.
skinship is a primal need

I know maybe you think of PIV a lot but I bet you also pine for stuff like this even if it makes you feel embarassed or weak so you deny it

BackWashWhyIsSwim

the intimacy of being able to trust a girl at your back, and for her to trust being around you in private and to touch you...

that's important psychologically, that's something I want a lot more than just fucking some escort's pussy
 
the intimacy of being able to trust a girl at your back, that's important psychologically
I see no purpose in working on my studies. If only I had a woman who would encourage me...
 
skinship is a primal need

I know maybe you think of PIV a lot but I bet you also pine for stuff like this even if it makes you feel embarassed or weak so you deny it

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the intimacy of being able to trust a girl at your back, and for her to trust being around you in private and to touch you...

that's important psychologically, that's something I want a lot more than just fucking some escort's pussy

High IQ

It's a multiplier effect where having more of both is ideal compared to completely lacking either one.
 
High IQ

It's a multiplier effect where having more of both is ideal compared to completely lacking either one.
yes, a synergy of affection
 
I just want a fucking relationship. I’ve never had one. I want to explore that side of myself. But it’s not going to happen.
 
Yeah it's true for me. I would love to lose my virginity, obviously, but schizo and my meds for it almost completely killed my sex drive. I would love to hold a woman and be able to touch her and play with her hair, I have never done that before. This is probably a cope
 
that's important psychologically, that's something I want a lot more than just fucking some escort's pussy
In fact, this is one of my fears. I also think about the possibility of getting addicted to this kind of escort relationship, which can be a big problem if you are not rich. It's not as if we can supply these needs every day or every week, so the bad days will come back.
The ideal is a GF :feelsrope:
 
Yeah it's true for me. I would love to lose my virginity, obviously, but schizo and my meds for it almost completely killed my sex drive.
you could save up enough over a few years for a single session with an escort and take some viagra if sex was all you wanted

pretty much any of us could be non-virgins that way if it was the priority, but it isn't

but you don't just want your virginity gone, you want fulfillment
I also think about the possibility of getting addicted to this kind of escort relationship, which can be a big problem if you are not rich.
you would prob get oneitis for you rescort and idealize her and her situation and even keep paying her for sessions where she doesn't fuck you because of period pains
 
Just touch yourself, bro, it solves both problems
 
Sex, what are you 5? crying about not being hugged?
 

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