Discussion Is life predetermined?

[Cautious Raven]

Do you believe that life is predetermined in some way?

If all that is has always been then this brings into question the idea of free will and the fate of our own destiny.

Does our personalities remain the same over time? Does our perception change beyond our current years? Whatever should we do with ourselves beyond the things we are forced to do?

 

[HonklerBBCwarrior]

yes

 

[psyop]

Yes. It was very relieving to realise nothing that I could have done would’ve changed the situation I’m currently in

 

[Rixinuj]

Yes, life is loosely predetermined in my opinion

 

[schmerlo]

our path was sealed when we were born

 

[Phosphorus]

Depends. I'm not really sure.

 

[Rabbi Schneerson]

Genetics

 

[Despicablecel]

yes

 

[thatwilldoit]

I used to think that everything that happens in our life happens for a reason but i don’t think that’s the case anymore. Genetics is the only predetermined aspect, but everything else it’s more complicated to me. Everyone’s personality will change overtime because of external factors, it’s definitely not predetermined

 

[Moroccancel2-]

No, it is conditioned.

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

You can take different paths but you will end up in the same destinations. That's the essence of it

 

[Moroccancel2-]

it’s definitely not predetermined

 

[turbosperg]

Do you believe that life is predetermined in some way?

If all that is has always been then this brings into question the idea of free will and the fate of our own destiny.

Does our personalities remain the same over time? Does our perception change beyond our current years? Whatever should we do with ourselves beyond the things we are forced to do?

It's not predetermined.

We have very little control also.

Most of what happens is just nature throwing things around

 

[Cautious Raven]

I used to think that everything that happens in our life happens for a reason but i don’t think that’s the case anymore. Genetics is the only predetermined aspect, but everything else it’s more complicated to me. Everyone’s personality will change overtime because of external factors, it’s definitely not predetermined

I believe this as well. Some factors are definitely out of control in the realm of genetics, but I believe that what we decide to do with our life, and the choices we make are completely up to us.

 

[Cautious Raven]

You can take different paths but you will end up in the same destinations. That's the essence of it

What do you mean by this? Like in a religious sense or do you mean a biological way?

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

What do you mean by this? Like in a religious sense or do you mean a biological way?

I dont know I just thought of it randomly

 

[punishedunder]

Everyone’s personality will change overtime because of external factors, it’s definitely not predetermined

which means it's all my fault. its fucking ovER

 

[Cautious Raven]

which means it's all my fault. its fucking ovER

 

[thatwilldoit]

which means it's all my fault. its fucking ovER

Never began

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

What do you mean by this? Like in a religious sense or do you mean a biological way?

A sub5 can max out status, looks and NT but at the end of the day foids are still attracted to chads. Not frauded people. Just like how Jeff bezos got mogged hard in front of Leonardo DiCaprio and his wife saw. A sub5 still remains sub5 at heart. In that moment to jeff's wife, Amazon, Jeff's status and everything meant nothing and Leonardo DiCaprio meant everything. Stimulated her on a much primal, deeper level.

There's only so much free will can do before destiny (pre determinism) takes over.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Yes. It was very relieving to realise nothing that I could have done would’ve changed the situation I’m currently in

 

[swarthcel]

Genetics

 

[punishedunder]

Never began

trvth nvke

 

[Cautious Raven]

A sub5 can max out status, looks and NT but at the end of the day foids are still attracted to chads. Not frauded people. Just like how Jeff bezos got mogged hard in front of Leonardo DiCaprio and his wife saw. A sub5 still remains sub5 at heart. In that moment to jeff's wife, Amazon, Jeff's status and everything meant nothing and Leonardo DiCaprio meant everything. Stimulated her on a much primal, deeper level.

There's only so much free will can do before destiny (pre determinism) takes over.

Oh okay, I see what you mean. Yeah there is definitely a genetic limit when it comes to socializing and getting foids.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

which means it's all my fault. its fucking ovER

It doesn’t mean it’s your fault. External factors like negative feedback from society made you this way. One of the big parts of the blackpill is to stop blaming yourself. Blame your genetics and environment, not yourself for the choices you made

 

[VideoGameCoper]

You can take different paths but you will end up in the same destinations. That's the essence of it

Yep. You could careermaxx, gymaxx, and many other things, but you will most likely still end up a lonely outcasted incel at the end of the day

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

Yep. You could careermaxx, gymaxx, and many other things, but you will most likely still end up a lonely outcasted incel at the end of the day

True forced loneliness

 

[VideoGameCoper]

True forced loneliness

Yep. It’s fucking brutal man

 

[NeverEvenBegan]

Yes, life is loosely predetermined in my opinion

 

[CircumcisedClown]

I can’t think of anything more predetermined than circumcision. I just happened to be born to retard parents who believe in cock mutilation.

The only role I played was choosing which body my soul would inhabit.

Yes, life is 99% out of your control. There’s nothing else to it.

 

[BurntIvoryKingcel]

It's both. your options are predetermined. your choices with regards to the few options u have made available to u are urs.
for example God gave truecels 5 main options in terms of how they can respond to the grand trial of being a loveless permavirgin

Option A: Become a bluepilled cuck (giga betabuxx, insist u have to work on urself more, etc)

Option B: Become a blackpilled monk living life on solo mode (I chose this path).

Option C: Sacrifice your ethnicity, culture, and sense of belonging by moving elsewhere for a better chance of getting laid (SEAmax)

Option D: Sinmax (porn, stripper shows, massages, escorts, etc).

Option E: Rope


See free will is limited as ur options are limited. but it's there in the sense that u can choose from the few options.

 

[punishedunder]

Blame your genetics and environment, not yourself for the choices you made

Thank you for this way of looking at it. Its all starting to make sense

 

[SubhumanGamer]

Matrix determines it so

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Thank you for this way of looking at it. Its all starting to make sense

Yeah man, don’t blame yourself too much. Watch some Rehab Room videos. He emphasizes that it’s not your fault you ended up this way

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

You were at least predetermined to post here.

 

[fantasycel]

Really good video I watched on this, watch the full thing before saying something because it explores some different perspectives on it.

View: https://youtu.be/UebSfjmQNvs

 

[Shotgun_in_my_mouth]

In the way that you can mostly only fuck it up, than visibly improve it

 

[CircumcisedClown]

In the way that you can mostly only fuck it up, than visibly improve it

This is what I was trying to say, but couldn’t. You summed it up better than me. You have infinite opportunity to make your life worse, but surprisingly little opportunity to make it better.

 

[curryboy420]

Life is pee and ass and shit

 

[pulp]

yes

 

[Friezacel]

Your fate was sealed from day 1

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Your fate was sealed from day 1

True, even if some bluepilled copers would say, you can do anything you want right now, we have free will, they fail to understand that they would make that decision after reading this post, which would have never happened if they weren't on this incel forum anyway. You genetic makeup influencers every decision you make.Your life was predetermined. We don't have free will

 

[IncelKing]

No, it is conditioned.

Our lives are FULLY and COMPLETELY the outcome of the influence of biological programming (genetics) and social conditioning (environment).

The genetics and environment you would be born into (which are the ONLY variables that detERmine EVERY expERience you have in your life) are pre-detERmined, thERefore your entire life (and evERybody else’s) is pre-detERmined

 

[IncelKing]

I made an entire thread about this topic:

[Hard To Swallow Edition] The final blackpill: fatalism

Human beings like to think of themselves as being the creators of their own destiny, but are we really in control of the way our lives play out or is everything predetermined and happening due to factors out of our control? Think about your own existence, the fact that you were brought into...

incels.is

 

[PolskiKartofel]

yes

 

[FinnCel]

No but we have biological imperatives that do affect us

 

[Vezod]

Do you believe that life is predetermined in some way?

I am a firm believer in hard determinism.

If all that is has always been then this brings into question the idea of free will and the fate of our own destiny.

Does our personalities remain the same over time?

Nope but that does have nothing to do with what you perceive as your *choices*.

Does our perception change beyond our current years?

Sure, have you ever tried out alcohol?
I remember, that after the first time I drank alc, I am noticing a completely new smell all the time.
New experiences change our perceptions and values in a significant way.
They say suffering builds character and it's true, the same way a happy life leads to a more positive attitude and healthy habits.

Whatever should we do with ourselves beyond the things we are forced to do?

Well, that's your *choice*.
If you have no idea what to do, start with cleaning up your room, this will make you more comfortable and the mindless work will spark your creativity.

 

[Mistake]

Yes

 

[Riinku]

It is.

 

[adharmi]

I think about it alot.
I feel like my existence is purely to be a stepping stone for the blessed people