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There is one fundamental tension here that has always pissed me off just a little:


One one hand:
We're all here because no women want to fuck us, or have a loving relationship with us. And we're all sufficiently disappointed about that, or aggrieved by that, or in some way or another cut up about that, to have wanted to join this one and only forum where it's possible to talk about this with people who get it, will listen, won't get the ick and won't gas-light or change the subject.


But yet, on the other hand:
If you want to talk about any of the reasons why you might actually want sex and a loving relationship, INVARIABLY some autist will reeeee and yell foid worship is against the rules, and you get banned.

With the net result that you're not allowed to talk honestly about wanting sex and relationships with women, on a forum that is explicitly for men who want sex and relationships with women.

So instead everyone tiptoes around being careful not to say the wrong things. Which you might remember, is EXACTLY the reason you can't talk to non-incels about inceldom - and that is why you were drawn here in the first place.


Perverse doesn't even begin to describe it. But that's what we have, and that is pretty strongly codified in the rules now so it is unlikely to change.
I have to correct you. We incels want a loving relationship and sex with our idea of a foid, not actual foids.

Since we know their nature, we obviousely call out foid worship when someone glazzes some bitch because it is an illusion anyway, a lie.

Foids must not be ever worshipped. They are not worthy of anything good, really.

If you disagree, you're probably a fakecel and or infiltrator.
 
I think empirical observations have proved consistently that men overrate women, so how would a man avoid settling for less than his looksmatch if he perceives females in an inflated manner?
Fair enough, but quite a few morons here are willing to fuck literal landwhales with pig faces, while they are not nearly as fugly, tbh.

It's stupid and further inflates the ego of these whores.
 
Fair enough, but quite a few morons here are willing to fuck literal landwhales with pig faces, while they are not nearly as fugly, tbh.

It's stupid and further inflates the ego of these whores.
desperate, starving men will eat dirt to try and survive. It is truly unfortunate either way tbh.

I have to correct you. We incels want a loving relationship and sex with our idea of a foid, not actual foids.

Since we know their nature, we obviousely call out foid worship when someone glazzes some bitch because it is an illusion anyway, a lie.

Foids must not be ever worshipped. They are not worthy of anything good, really.

If you disagree, you're probably a fakecel and or infiltrator.
Isn't it contradictory with the other message I quoted tho?
How do you quantify "want", or, how can you know that people actually don't want to have a relationship with foids but their mental construction of it? I think every form of relationship is a mental construction, but I cannot express judgment regarding what people perceive or want or declare, so I want to hear your reasoning for it.
 
desperate, starving men will eat dirt to try and survive. It is truly unfortunate either way tbh.


Isn't it contradictory with the other message I quoted tho?
How do you quantify "want", or, how can you know that people actually don't want to have a relationship with foids but their mental construction of it? I think every form of relationship is a mental construction, but I cannot express judgment regarding what people perceive or want or declare, so I want to hear your reasoning for it.
I assume that most here were blue pilled from child hood, which is understandable, seeing what kind of blue pilled garbage the media, the educational system etc. are pushing.

So eventually most of us started asking questions as to why we could not get laid, despite us doing exactly what we've been told to do and despite what is being said about foids.

Most will simply close their eyes when their programming gets confronted with true foid nature, but we did not, and so we ended up here.

I am sure many here want this ideal life with a foid, which only exists in their daydreams and they know it now.
They used to believe the lies, most of us did, at a young age.


I mean, I highly doubt any brocel here truely desires a relationship with an actual foid, even if he could ascend with a Stacy because even if she stays with him and gives him the full gf and wife experience, the black pill will never leave him.

He will always be reminded of her nature.

If all of us were to wake up tomorrow as ultra Chads and get the foids of our liking, we would still remember that if we slack just anywhere, looks wise, it would be over.

That knowledge will always linger in your head.
How can you even enjoy a relationship if you know what you know and if you see it in your own gf / wife?

Like I've said, my idea of a foid is what I desire, not an actual foid.

At best I desire to pump and dump a hot bitch, since I am black pilled about them.
 
Black pill is not a philosophy, you fucking retard.

All the other shit these grifters sell is just that, SHIT, and you calling the black pill, which is just the cold, hard, unadulterated truth a philosophy screams of you being an infiltrator, trying to dilute the message.
It's a way of thinking, a seemingly common worldview that's been given a label. Call it a philosophy or ideology, it takes heavy inspiration from philosophies such as nihilism and fatalism.

I'd argue it's not completely unadulterated truth because if it were it would acknowledge that there's a lot of other factors that go into someone liking someone else that can actually be changed and manipulated to a degree; appearance, how you talk to others, etc.

  • Philosophy is a formal, academic discipline and method of inquiry. It uses logic, rigorous argumentation, and critical thinking to answer questions about reality, knowledge, and ethics.
  • A worldview is a personal or cultural "lens". It is the overarching set of beliefs, values, and assumptions you use to interpret life and understand the universe.

If you wish to refer to the blackpill as a worldview go ahead but that'll be admitting that it is just an individuals way of thinking rather than a philosophy that takes into account logic and critical thinking.
 
I getcha. I’m one of the only people on here (or the internet really) that isn’t having an anger-induced aneurysm at those two kids who shot up a mosque recently, and I’ve caught a bit of shit for it. Basically no actual arguments either, just name-calling and soyjaks.
 
Realistically, almost none can ascend, because that should have happened in your teens, sith a virgin foid, not some roastie in her late thirties or fourties.

Whoever calls the kater ascension is part of the problem.

Incel or not, no man should EVER settle for less than his looksmatch.

Making compromises is what has gotten us men in this predicament in the first place.
we're here for different reasons despite the same struggle. I hold no ill will for the lack of interest foids had in me during highschool; I'd often be sperging out or would just hang around other boys, so I understand why I had no luck then, I didn't care for it back then either until I was a senior.

I think ascension varies for the person, what they want out of being with a foid and what they're happy to settle for. Sex wont be served to us on a silver plater, especially if we don't meet soical ideals. You can acknowledge socially agreed on standards are unfair while also doing what you can to try and achieve something you want.
 
Good.

"muh free thought" is error and error has no rights.
 
Holy shit, I have read snippets from OP in this thread and my infiltratordar us going NUTS.

This dude is very obviousely an infiltrator. Tries hard and does not see how obvious it is.

Hope he gets exposed and banned soon.
:feelsjuice: its over for freethinkercels. Idk I assume it's because my perspective is different to yours and I don't respond to everything in classic brain-rotted sheeple fashion. Can assure you I have never once touched pussy, was even a c-section baby, I harbour golden incel status.
 
Holy shit, I have read snippets from OP in this thread and my infiltratordar us going NUTS.

This dude is very obviousely an infiltrator. Tries hard and does not see how obvious it is.

Hope he gets exposed and banned soon.
Why do you say this?
 
I have to correct you. We incels want a loving relationship and sex with our idea of a foid, not actual foids.

Since we know their nature, we obviousely call out foid worship when someone glazzes some bitch because it is an illusion anyway, a lie.

Foids must not be ever worshipped. They are not worthy of anything good, really.

If you disagree, you're probably a fakecel and or infiltrator.
Trvthnvke. No real life foid ever deserves an iota of my respect after understanding their fundemental nature : vain, greedy, superficial and hollow bpd demons. Their cruelty and insanity knows no bounds, and they condemned people like me to suffer until i die alone and miserable.
I was promised since i was a child that i'll find a partner that trusts me and loves me, someone i can share the world with and devote my entire life to. While this noble idea still dwells in my mind, there is no way for me to pursue this delusion in the real world because no such person exists.
Any incel who doesn't think the same is just plain oblivious to truth, and needs to wake up and smell the coffee
 
I fart all the time and it's awesome.
 
We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator :feelsUnreal:
Don't expect much from this place; anything that deviates from the usual topics about the blackpill is ignored.

Probably because most of the users are teenagers without much life experience or education.
 
We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator :feelsUnreal: god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy. I haven't been posting for very long but the social atmosphere is reminiscent of high school; in the way that everyone seems to follow a strict rulebook to fit in and be dubbed 'cool' or in this case a truecel or plain ol' incel, if you don't fit the status quo you are deemed a fakecel.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives, but now it's in a community that's meant to be for like minded people so no one should feel like they need to cower behind a smoke screen. This kind of behaviour makes it hard to have open discussions with people when I think that's what a lot of us need.

Eitherway this isn't meant to be a dig, I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum, I came here for people going through the same shit so I wouldn't feel alone.
A big reason is people trying to rack up a bunch of post. They end up sacrificing critical thinking skills to get that number up
 
It sounds like you wrote this thread because you got your feelings hurt (foid trait) by being called a infiltrator. Your post is also quite contradictory since accepting the blackpill requires you to be a 'free thinker'.

What you're advocating for is not 'proper discussions', you already get that here. This is the most free speach place in the entire planet. Instead you're advocating for this forum to become an inclusive progressive shithole that allows all kinds of people because that's their 'philosophy'.
 
We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator :feelsUnreal: god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy. I haven't been posting for very long but the social atmosphere is reminiscent of high school; in the way that everyone seems to follow a strict rulebook to fit in and be dubbed 'cool' or in this case a truecel or plain ol' incel, if you don't fit the status quo you are deemed a fakecel.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives, but now it's in a community that's meant to be for like minded people so no one should feel like they need to cower behind a smoke screen. This kind of behaviour makes it hard to have open discussions with people when I think that's what a lot of us need.

Eitherway this isn't meant to be a dig, I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum, I came here for people going through the same shit so I wouldn't feel alone.
Unfortunately, this place is just suicidefuel after suicidefuel, I dont mind it but their has to be a balance
 

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