.IS lacks free thinkers

[Clit CFO]

We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy. I haven't been posting for very long but the social atmosphere is reminiscent of high school; in the way that everyone seems to follow a strict rulebook to fit in and be dubbed 'cool' or in this case a truecel or plain ol' incel, if you don't fit the status quo you are deemed a fakecel.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives, but now it's in a community that's meant to be for like minded people so no one should feel like they need to cower behind a smoke screen. This kind of behaviour makes it hard to have open discussions with people when I think that's what a lot of us need.

Eitherway this isn't meant to be a dig, I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum, I came here for people going through the same shit so I wouldn't feel alone.

 

[nihilum]

its so fucking over for freethinkercels

 

[TyroneChaddington]

Joined Mar 15, 2026

 

[chihiro]

dnr

 

[se7en1]

I agree

 

[Somalicel2222]

true, one time i questioned someones inceldom because they never tried to find someone. I got bashed for it, Imo you cant be a truecel if you have never tried.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Good. Fuck wordcels.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

Absurdism is copium for low iq retards

 

[fokusin]

You can be a free thinker without spreading redpilled garbage like infilthtraitors

 

[Clit CFO]

You can be a free thinker without spreading redpilled garbage like infilthtraitors

this just proves that what I was talking about is an issue. I wouldn't confine myself to a strict philosophy, there's aspects of the redpill and blackpill that I can relate to but in general I wouldn't say I perfectly fit into either. I'm more than happy to have an open discussion about why you feel the need to restrict yourself to one philosophy unless you're a sheep and perfect example of what I was talking about when people submit to fit in.

 

[Clit CFO]

Absurdism is copium for low iq retards

there's aspects of nihilism that I can agree and relate to as well, much like how there's aspects of absurdism that I don't completely agree with. Why do you think it's copium for low iq retards, or are you just saying that because it's what the majority would say?

 

[Clit CFO]

true, one time i questioned someones inceldom because they never tried to find someone. I got bashed for it, Imo you cant be a truecel if you have never tried.

exactly. something that irks me about most blackpill incels is that they've 'accepted their fate' and have decided to not even try, technically making them volcels yet they're the ones that go on about who's truecel or not the most.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

there's aspects of nihilism that I can agree and relate to as well

Fym "aspects" nihilism is not some extremely defined school with "aspects" and shit. It's very simple; if you recognise all valuations as subjective and all metaphysical tribunals as fictional, you can be said to be nihilistic.

Why do you think it's copium for low iq retards, or are you just saying that because it's what the majority would say?

Majority of humans are goyims who cling to cope pseudo-optimistic ideas like absurdism. Very few people are capable of seeing reality without metaphysical filters.

 

[kevkon]

We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy. I haven't been posting for very long but the social atmosphere is reminiscent of high school; in the way that everyone seems to follow a strict rulebook to fit in and be dubbed 'cool' or in this case a truecel or plain ol' incel, if you don't fit the status quo you are deemed a fakecel.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives, but now it's in a community that's meant to be for like minded people so no one should feel like they need to cower behind a smoke screen. This kind of behaviour makes it hard to have open discussions with people when I think that's what a lot of us need.

Eitherway this isn't meant to be a dig, I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum, I came here for people going through the same shit so I wouldn't feel alone.

Wow a rare example of a post being unique, nuanced and thoughtful. Congrats

 

[Clit CFO]

Fym "aspects" nihilism is not some extremely defined school with "aspects" and shit. It's very simple; if you recognise all valuations as subjective and all metaphysical tribunals as fictional, you can be said to be nihilistic.

I'm saying aspects because people on this forum behave like a philosophy is a strict rulebook you must abide by. Nihilism and absurdism share the quality that both believe that our existence is meaningless; absurdism takes a realistic approach by acknowledging that you can give it whatever meaning you want. I find it funny that you call absurdism a low iq cope when in reality both philosophies are strikingly similar. By your name alone I'm under the assumption you're mainly backing nihilism because its deemed edgy.

Majority of humans are goyims who cling to cope pseudo-optimistic ideas like absurdism. Very few people are capable of seeing reality without metaphysical filters.

I'd argue you're too depressed and jaded to see reality to it's fullest. You're viewing everything through a pessimistic lens, I wouldn't call that seeing the bigger picture clearly.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Nihilism and absurdism share the quality that both believe that our existence is meaningless; absurdism takes a realistic approach by acknowledging that you can give it whatever meaning you want

"Meaning" being self-imposed delusion kek kek kek

I find it funny that you call absurdism a low iq cope when in reality both philosophies are strikingly similar.

One is copium, one is closer to actuality. The difference is night and day.

By your name alone I'm under the assumption you're mainly backing nihilism because its deemed edgy.

I don't back shit. I just say what is true. And what is true is that you (and rest of humanity) are nothing but a bag of meat steered by a bunch of neurons. All this talk of "meaning" is wordcel copium about things which don't exist.

I'd argue you're too depressed and jaded to see reality to it's fullest. You're viewing everything through a pessimistic lens, I wouldn't call that seeing the bigger picture clearly.

Not really. I'm a vitalist who embraces the will to power as the only governing force in this universe. Winners take it all, losers can go rope. Whether that is "optimistic" or "pessimistic" depends on your notions about these words. In fact, getting stuck up in these terms itself is a sign of an undifferentiated intellect.

 

[tired as fuck]

Joined March 15 - I'm just joking.

A couple of considerations:

We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator

I am not aware of your particular circumstances, but I suspect it's because of the usual gray parameters.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy.

Hmmm, I'm conflicted. On one hand, philosophical schools of thought are man-made. On the other, developing philosophical theories is done at least partially obeying the laws of logic, which I don't honestly think are also man-made. I think logic seems to be an inherent property of the universe. This does not mean I think the universe has some ordering principle or isn't chaotic, but that there are some things which we can turn into models and, through logic, predict with stunning accuracy. I think I am not being clear. Basically, mathematics (specifically applied to natural sciences s.a. physics or chemistry). However, I do agree that one should try to adopt a system of thought through borrowing from as many systems as one can learn of.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives

perhaps a mixture of both? Some maybe standoffish in character (like me, to my detriment), most caused to be standoffish by their lives, but I think many people here value the forum and don't want to be ostracized, so they try to fit in as hard as they can, which seems to go against the original spirit of the forum imo. graycel tho.

I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum

I think majority of the people who used to be like that left the forum in the past years. Doesn't mean we can't inherit the torch though.

absurdism takes a realistic approach by acknowledging that you can give it whatever meaning you want

I think absurdism is not enough. Too vague, too self-imposed, lacks the social validation aspect of humans. In my opinion you cannot consciously impose meaning onto a biological structure that is calibrated towards a precise definition of meaning.

 

[tired as fuck]

I'm a vitalist who embraces the will to power as the only governing force in this universe

Do you happen to draw from Arthur Schopenhauer's work?

All this talk of "meaning" is wordcel copium about things which don't exist.

Do you believe that "existence" is defined as strictly the material, phenomenal reality?

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Do you happen to draw from Arthur Schopenhauer's work?

No, never read him.

Do you believe that "existence" is defined as strictly the material, phenomenal reality?

Yes. Only one world, this one.

 

[tired as fuck]

No, never read him.

what about Nietzsche?

Yes. Only one world, this one.

understandable, but then don't you think that people deluding themselves with self-imposed meanings has the potential to change the phenomenal reality?

 

[Clit CFO]

"Meaning" being self-imposed delusion kek kek kek
One is copium, one is closer to actuality. The difference is night and day.

in actuality we can give a lot of things it's own meaning. all social constructs are proof of this.

I don't back shit. I just say what is true. And what is true is that you (and rest of humanity) are nothing but a flesh of meat steered by a bunch of neurons. All this talk of "meaning" is wordcel copium about things which don't exist.

Ideally we could just do whatever we wanted and if you wanted to be a sack of meat only following primordial instincts I'd happily let you be (even now I'd let you do that, what you do with your life doesn't negatively affect me) but most people acknowledge we're highly intelligent life and people will seek out meaning. I think pushing your rhetoric on people wont work for everyone and we should foster a more open community here. The last thing I'd want is a fellow brocel ending his life because he couldn't find the right kind of solace from people going through the exact same thing.

Not really. I'm a vitalist who embraces the will to power as the only governing force in this universe. Winners take it all, losers can go rope. Whether that is "optimistic" or "pessimistic" depends on your notions about these words. In fact, getting stuck up in these terms itself is a sign of an undifferentiated intellect.

if you care so little for these words and ideas why even bother responding?

 

[Rapemaxxer]

what about Nietzsche?

Yeah

understandable, but then don't you think that people deluding themselves with self-imposed meanings has the potential to change the phenomenal reality?

Only thing they're changing is their perspective on things, not the things themselves which are the same for anyone with sense organs and mind. And I'm not even saying delusion is "bad", I don't believe in "good" or "bad" in the ethical sense. Deluding oneself is an objectively efficient strategy for a certain class of man (the masses). That's how religions operate. But philosophy is not for the masses.

 

[tired as fuck]

Only thing they're changing is their perspective on things, not the things themselves which are the same for anyone with sense organs and mind. And I'm not even saying delusion is "bad", I don't believe in "good" or "bad" in the ethical sense. Deluding oneself is an objectively efficient strategy for a certain class of man (the masses). That's how religions operate. But philosophy is not for the masses.

ah I meant more, through their beliefs, they act in the real world and change it, manipulate it. Even a nihilist (ehhhhhhhhh not truly) like Nietzsche postulated that the ubermensch builds his own set of beliefs and values.

 

[Clit CFO]

Joined March 15 - I'm just joking.

Hmmm, I'm conflicted. On one hand, philosophical schools of thought are man-made. On the other, developing philosophical theories is done at least partially obeying the laws of logic, which I don't honestly think are also man-made. I think logic seems to be an inherent property of the universe. This does not mean I think the universe has some ordering principle or isn't chaotic, but that there are some things which we can turn into models and, through logic, predict with stunning accuracy. I think I am not being clear. Basically, mathematics (specifically applied to natural sciences s.a. physics or chemistry). However, I do agree that one should try to adopt a system of thought through borrowing from as many systems as one can learn of.

I agree completely

perhaps a mixture of both? Some maybe standoffish in character (like me, to my detriment), most caused to be standoffish by their lives, but I think many people here value the forum and don't want to be ostracized, so they try to fit in as hard as they can, which seems to go against the original spirit of the forum imo. graycel tho.



I think majority of the people who used to be like that left the forum in the past years. Doesn't mean we can't inherit the torch though.

I hope we can carry on a more open environment with eachother, I fear fostering possibly harmful behaviours and ideas will make it harder for other incels to find somewhere they belong. I would frequent random small incel servers on discord before officially making an account here, but people were much more open and diverse with their beliefs.

I think absurdism is not enough. Too vague, too self-imposed, lacks the social validation aspect of humans. In my opinion you cannot consciously impose meaning onto a biological structure that is calibrated towards a precise definition of meaning.

I agree but I think we as humans have long surpassed the primal need to hunt and gather, we've gotten to a point where our needs are easily met so it leaves a lot to be desired. I think it's both a blessing and a curse that we get the possibility to now choose how we spend our days or even what we want to commit our lives to.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

in actuality we can give a lot of things it's own meaning. all social constructs are proof of this.

All social constructs have no basis in reality. They are simply imaginary social tools, felt as real by the masses and utilized as convenient expedients by the enlightened. You can't give anything "meaning", what you are is an animal with instincts programmed into you, and everything you do is simply an unfolding of these instincts in accordance with the environment you occupy. The only "meaning" is following your base instincts (which includes deluding oneself for some).

Ideally we could just do whatever we wanted and if you wanted to be a sack of meat only following primordial instincts I'd happily let you be (even now I'd let you do that, what you do with your life doesn't negatively affect me) but most people acknowledge we're highly intelligent life and people will seek out meaning.

I don't care about social normativity or preserving "highly intelligent life". I don't want a society where "we could just do whatever we wanted". You're retarded if you think there's anything prescriptive in what I said. What I said was the simple truth that there are no imaginary tribunals in the real world and all we are are sacks of meat hungering for our twisted versions of power (which can manifest as self-sacrifice, love or communion) in a world which does not conform to our ideas about ethics or teleology or "meaning". I couldn't be bothered if this all takes place in a civilized society or a tribal anarchy, it's all the same thing to me: games of power, nothing more.

I think pushing your rhetoric on people wont work for everyone and we should foster a more open community here.

I don't care about "pushing my rhetoric" on the masses. They should follow religions and worship their gods, because their weltanschauung would completely break down without replying on these artificial constructs.

The last thing I'd want is a fellow brocel ending his life because he couldn't find the right kind of solace from people going through the exact same thing.

Ok? What has this profession of sentiment to do with any rational defence of absurdism?

if you care so little for these words and ideas why even bother responding?

I have no issues with the right ideas but people have a tendency to obfuscate everything when reality is pretty simple.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

ah I meant more, through their beliefs, they act in the real world and change it, manipulate it. Even a nihilist (ehhhhhhhhh not truly) like Nietzsche postulated that the ubermensch builds his own set of beliefs and values.

Every single person who is goyim enough to require delusions is not strong enough to enact his will on the world to manipulate it in first place. The ubermensch is by definition someone who is beyond all metaphysical crutches.

 

[tired as fuck]

I hope we can carry on a more open environment with eachother, I fear fostering possibly harmful behaviours and ideas will make it harder for other incels to find somewhere they belong. I would frequent random small incel servers on discord before officially making an account here, but people were much more open and diverse with their beliefs.

ehhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't want to restrict things that have no need to be restricted tbh.

I agree but I think we as humans have long surpassed the primal need to hunt and gather, we've gotten to a point where our needs are easily met so it leaves a lot to be desired. I think it's both a blessing and a curse that we get the possibility to now choose how we spend our days or even what we want to commit our lives to.

sure but what I meant is that you can't just "decide" to impose some sort of definition of "meaning", because your rationality cannot govern your spirit/soul/subconscious/any-other-term-for-that-emergent-property-of-our-brain to that degree.

 

[tired as fuck]

Every single person who is goyim enough to require delusions is not strong enough to enact his will on the world to manipulate it in first place. The ubermensch is by definition someone who is beyond all metaphysical crutches.

I don't think I know enough to go on in the conversation sorry.

 

[Clit CFO]

All social constructs have no basis in reality. They are simply imaginary social tools, felt as real by the masses and utilized as convenient expedients by the enlightened. You can't give anything "meaning", what you are is an animal with instincts programmed into you, and everything you do is simply an unfolding of these instincts in accordance with the environment you occupy. The only "meaning" is following your base instincts (which includes deluding oneself for some).

Political ideologies were once social constructs yet are now forces that control peoples day to day lives, I'd argue they're very real things.

I don't care about social normativity or preserving "highly intelligent life". I don't want a society where "we could just do whatever we wanted". You're retarded if you think there's anything prescriptive in what I said. What I said was the simple truth that there are no imaginary tribunals in the real world and all we are are sacks of meat hungering for our twisted versions of power (which can manifest as self-sacrifice, love or communion) in a world which does not conform to our ideas about ethics or teleology or "meaning". I couldn't be bothered if this all takes place in a civilized society or a tribal anarchy, it's all the same thing to me: games of power, nothing more.

^^ ?

I don't care about "pushing my rhetoric" on the masses. They should follow religions and worship their gods, because their weltanschauung would completely break down without replying on these artificial constructs.

Ok? What has this profession of sentiment to do with any rational defence of absurdism?

Just back to my point of how pushing a possibly harmful rhetoric on someone could potentially be detrimental for some. I think you're entitled to your own beliefs but you should also allow others to theirs. if it takes someone 'deluding' themselves to save them so be it.

I have no issues with the right ideas but people have a tendency to obfuscate everything when reality is pretty simple.

I think you can simplify it but I wouldn't call humans or the world we live in simple.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Political ideologies were once social constructs yet are now forces that control peoples day to day lives, I'd argue they're very real things.

And none of them are justified, since all of them are imaginary. That's why all conflict between countries or other forms of political factions is a matter of who has more power, not who is "correct".

Just back to my point of how pushing a possibly harmful rhetoric on someone could potentially be detrimental for some. I think you're entitled to your own beliefs but you should also allow others to theirs. if it takes someone 'deluding' themselves to save them so be it.

Sure goys can believe whatever they want but there's only one truth.

 

[Clit CFO]

ehhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't want to restrict things that have no need to be restricted tbh.

We dont have to restrict things to foster a more open community, my point is that everyone here seems pretty set on one way of thinking that could risk the lives of other incels. I don't think throwing insecure men into a community of men who'll criticize them for not fitting the bill is very healthy for people just seeking asylum.

sure but what I meant is that you can't just "decide" to impose some sort of definition of "meaning", because your rationality cannot govern your spirit/soul/subconscious/any-other-term-for-that-emergent-property-of-our-brain to that degree.

I think those things play a large part in how and what you choose to do with your life.

 

[hierophant]

We're all about high IQ's and being into modern, internet made philosophies but the moment I say anything that isn't standard blackpill protocall I get called an infiltrator god forbid an incel prefer absurdism over nihilism.

A philosophy is a social construct, you don't have to follow it to a tee, it's a man made label you can use to help others better understand you (also helps you better understand yourself), but such labels are constricting because we as humans are all too complex to be condensed down to one single philosophy. I haven't been posting for very long but the social atmosphere is reminiscent of high school; in the way that everyone seems to follow a strict rulebook to fit in and be dubbed 'cool' or in this case a truecel or plain ol' incel, if you don't fit the status quo you are deemed a fakecel.

I've found myself questioning if everyone here truly is this standoffish or if it's people putting their heads down to fit in like we've all tried in our real lives, but now it's in a community that's meant to be for like minded people so no one should feel like they need to cower behind a smoke screen. This kind of behaviour makes it hard to have open discussions with people when I think that's what a lot of us need.

Eitherway this isn't meant to be a dig, I'm just frustrated because I'd like to actually have proper discussions with people on this forum, I came here for people going through the same shit so I wouldn't feel alone.

By virtue of your post, you do the topic a service, what matters in the end is whether the quantity of your behavior will translate to the result your desiring. I will be frank, you cannot demand of others what they themselves will not themselves do neither can you demand of others what they are incapable of doing. Lastly, action is often a greater example then precept.

 

[fokusin]

this just proves that what I was talking about is an issue. I wouldn't confine myself to a strict philosophy, there's aspects of the redpill and blackpill that I can relate to but in general I wouldn't say I perfectly fit into either. I'm more than happy to have an open discussion about why you feel the need to restrict yourself to one philosophy unless you're a sheep and perfect example of what I was talking about when people submit to fit in.

Blackpill is fatalism

 

[Clit CFO]

Blackpill is fatalism

I think in some ways things are out of our control, for example the choices of other people, but you yourself can choose how you react and interact. I believe how we present ourselves to others can swag their decisions and opinions on us to a small degree. It's much like appearance, it's not something we have full control over but we can change it to a degree. You can accept everything as is if that's what floats your boat but I ultimately think that's not going to help you excel in life.

 

[Pikacel]

Blackpill is fatalism

Not fully

 

[Pikacel]

I think in some ways things are out of our control, for example the choices of other people, but you yourself can choose how you react and interact. I believe how we present ourselves to others can swag their decisions and opinions on us to a small degree. It's much like appearance, it's not something we have full control over but we can change it to a degree. You can accept everything as is if that's what floats your boat but I ultimately think that's not going to help you excel in life.

Most important decision you can make is avoiding the bluepill

Don’t get deluded always keep a firm grasp on reality

 

[Clit CFO]

Most important decision you can make is avoiding the bluepill

Don’t get deluded always keep a firm grasp on reality

I think ignorance is rather harmful to ones self and those around them so no bluepill for me

 

[Pikacel]

I think ignorance is rather harmful to ones self and those around them so no bluepill for me

At least with LDARing you do it on your own terms

Bluepillers who orbit normies/foids and constantly take disrespect from them for little to no benefit should rope

 

[Brainy]

The answer is to quarantine graycels, anime avi users, and anyone who says "bruh" unironically to a specific part of the forum.

 

[goyim next door]

The answer is to quarantine graycels, anime avi users, and anyone who says "bruh" unironically to a specific part of the forum.

What would the name of the said forum be called?

 

[Clit CFO]

What would the name of the said forum be called?

something something cuck jail

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

Joined Mar 15, 2026

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

There is one fundamental tension here that has always pissed me off just a little:


One one hand:
We're all here because no women want to fuck us, or have a loving relationship with us. And we're all sufficiently disappointed about that, or aggrieved by that, or in some way or another cut up about that, to have wanted to join this one and only forum where it's possible to talk about this with people who get it, will listen, won't get the ick and won't gas-light or change the subject.


But yet, on the other hand:
If you want to talk about any of the reasons why you might actually want sex and a loving relationship, INVARIABLY some autist will reeeee and yell foid worship is against the rules, and you get banned.

With the net result that you're not allowed to talk honestly about wanting sex and relationships with women, on a forum that is explicitly for men who want sex and relationships with women.

So instead everyone tiptoes around being careful not to say the wrong things. Which you might remember, is EXACTLY the reason you can't talk to non-incels about inceldom - and that is why you were drawn here in the first place.


Perverse doesn't even begin to describe it. But that's what we have, and that is pretty strongly codified in the rules now so it is unlikely to change.

 

[Animecel2D]

Intellectual and Free Thinker Trait:​

Holding and contributing to the large and on-going intellectual discussion inside the sewers.

 

[Lunaticcurrycel]

dnr

 

[TooSomething]

Holy shit, I have read snippets from OP in this thread and my infiltratordar us going NUTS.

This dude is very obviousely an infiltrator. Tries hard and does not see how obvious it is.

Hope he gets exposed and banned soon.

 

[TooSomething]

this just proves that what I was talking about is an issue. I wouldn't confine myself to a strict philosophy, there's aspects of the redpill and blackpill that I can relate to but in general I wouldn't say I perfectly fit into either. I'm more than happy to have an open discussion about why you feel the need to restrict yourself to one philosophy unless you're a sheep and perfect example of what I was talking about when people submit to fit in.

Black pill is not a philosophy, you fucking retard.

Holy shit, man.

And red pillers are just incels in denial. Hell, the infamous red pill grifter Bo Refec (LegionOfMen or so) has twice slipped up hard during one of his videos and dropped a massive black pill on his red pilled audience by stating, in one instance, that you cannot negotiate attraction and in another instance by stating that you absolutely need to pipe your bitch down good and have to have a well sized dick for that or she will eventually leave, despite the initial attraction she's had for you.

All the other shit these grifters sell is just that, SHIT, and you calling the black pill, which is just the cold, hard, unadulterated truth a philosophy screams of you being an infiltrator, trying to dilute the message.

 

[TooSomething]

exactly. something that irks me about most blackpill incels is that they've 'accepted their fate' and have decided to not even try, technically making them volcels yet they're the ones that go on about who's truecel or not the most.

Realistically, almost none can ascend, because that should have happened in your teens, sith a virgin foid, not some roastie in her late thirties or fourties.

Whoever calls the kater ascension is part of the problem.

Incel or not, no man should EVER settle for less than his looksmatch.

Making compromises is what has gotten us men in this predicament in the first place.

 

[tired as fuck]

Blackpill is fatalism

From what I understand it is determinism but determinism is not the same as fatalism and doesn't imply fatalism. You don't have free will but if the initial conditions (that determine the output) change, the output will change accordingly.

 

[tired as fuck]

Incel or not, no man should EVER settle for less than his looksmatch.

I think empirical observations have proved consistently that men overrate women, so how would a man avoid settling for less than his looksmatch if he perceives females in an inflated manner?