Is being perceived as awkward a relative trait like being unattractive or unfunny?

[Reclusemaxxer]

Is being perceived as awkward a relative trait like being unattractive or unfunny?

Or is there a much more clearly defined and societally agreed upon threshold of what it looks like?

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Following along with the recent discussion on how social anxiety/social awkwardness is apparently a dating death sentence for men, I've seen people mention about how other traits like being funny are important for a man's dating success.

Which sounds sensible, but also brings up the question of funny *to whom*.

Let's say that how funny a guy is depends on the woman making the judgment, because some people will find things hilarious that others won't even crack a smile at...

And let's also say that even though physical attractiveness is usually agreed upon for the extremes, there's still enough subjectivity such that when guys blame their lack of dating success on being ugly we confidently tell them "that's no excuse"...

..so going back to the issue of social awkwardness and social anxiety:

Is a guy simply awkward or is he awkward *to someone*? (Woman A thinks he's awkward but woman B doesn't see it that way and actually finds it endearing.)

How much consensus is there on what defines an awkward guy, versus an unfunny guy or an unattractive one? Would a group of people men or women more easily agree on someone being awkward or someone being ugly?

In fact, what defines someone as awkward IYO? Being quiet or unable to carry conversation? Is it equivalent to lack of confidence, or can a confident guy also be an incredibly awkward guy and say the wrong things in the wrong moments?

 

[HiddenUzer.Belgrade]

yes

 

[Incelius Savage]

yes

Not his post, he copied it from reddit.

 

[Reclusemaxxer]

Not his post, he copied it from reddit.

No proof

 

[HiddenUzer.Belgrade]

Not his post, he copied it from reddit.

jfl

 

[Reclusemaxxer]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/yjpoi1/is_being_perceived_as_awkward_a_relative_trait/


Well, this one was easy to find.

I let you find it

 

[Bincell]

There are both objective and subjective facets to awkwardness. For instance two people who know eachother well, let's so two non-gay male friends, may feel totally comfortable touching one another, like if their hands touch when passing something. Whereas two non-gay hetero strangers might get very cringed/awkward if their hands brush together because of the subtle "I'm not gay and I'm not sure if you are".

That kind of awkward is relative and subjective.

However if you're non-NT (like myself or pretty much every trucel) then there is a different kind of awkwardness. Studies have found the normals IMMEDIATELY pick up on autistic traits. Within milliseconds. Things such as the way an autists eyes and lips move give him away. These autistic traits make a normal feel extremely uneasy and threatened and therefore everything you do is awkward because their fighting their conditioning to be civil toward you with their inner desire to flee or attack.

Therefore if you're non-nt it's not relative, it's absolute, everything you do seems awakard to others because you're essentially uncanny valley: the person.