Blackpill IQ Tests Are Pointless An Should Not Dictate Your Pursuits Or Actions (They Are Often Just Used As An Excuse)

[BlkPillPres]

A few people have been asking me if I have gotten my IQ tested or if I ever will

Never actually did a test and I don't see the point

I've always argued that:

1. CSQ (Common Sense Quotient) > IQ (Intelligence Quotient)

2. Intelligence is just a substitute for actual capability (made a thread about it too)

Intelligence Is Just A Substitute For Capability

I've said this before and i'll say it again, intelligence is nothing but a substitute for actual ability, so even from an evolutionary perspective one being high in intelligence is more of an indicator to females that said individual lacks the physical capability to take or attain what they want...

incels.is

Having a high IQ doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, and that's why its pointless, imagine if all I planned on doing with my life, was to come online here everyday and make posts, that doesn't sound very smart to me, so even lets say that was my goal and I had a 200+IQ, in my book I'd still be an idiot, there are also many men with low IQ's who have certain skills/knowledge (especially in the business world) who have struck it rich, being high IQ wasn't necessary for that

I feel like IQ is a cope a lot of people cling to so they can have something to feel good about, being high IQ and not applying it in any way that leads to your success is not boast worthy, its not something to be proud of, so it doesn't matter how high IQ I am until I becoming successful via said IQ

The results of an IQ test would make no difference to me, I'd still pursue all my goals the same way

I feel a lot of people take the test to give themselves an excuse to relax and do nothing with their lives

1. You discover you're high IQ and you become proud and complacent and do nothing
2. You discover you're low IQ and you use that as an excuse as to why you are a failure and give up to do nothing

People who take these tests are "looking for something", I'm not looking for anything, all I know is that I have to do something to get what I want from life, that's all I needed to know, the rules of the game, I'm going to play regardless

 

[Deleted member 15752]

A few people have been asking me if I have gotten my IQ tested or if I ever will

You know its over in 2019 when people think having basic common sense = intellectual high iq god

 

[BlkPillPres]

You know its over in 2019 when people think having basic common sense = intellectual high iq god

TBH I think my IQ is just average, sadly its more like common sense and the ability to rationalize ones thoughts are low in supply these days

 

[Deleted member 21504]

You have a high IQ bro. But you must recognize that drive is not distributed equally among the world's population. I, for example, only wish to LDAR and then die.

 

[Haywire]

i think you are above average but surely you know that

 

[BlkPillPres]

You have a high IQ bro. But you must recognize that drive is not distributed equally among the world's population. I, for example, only wish to LDAR and then die.

What you mean is luck isn't equally distributed among the world's population, drive is something developed through life experiences, and the men who have no drive are usually men who have easy lives, because if you had lived a hard life, you wouldn't even think to tell yourself "I'll just LDAR", doing something doesn't feel like a choice, it feels like survival, you do it because its all you know, you don't ever want to fall back into poverty, into the terrible life you once knew

Anybody who can afford to LDAR is living an easy life, their words don't even count, because they aren't even in a place in life to have drive

 

[Deleted member 21504]

What you mean is luck isn't equally distributed among the world's population, drive is something developed through life experiences, and the men who have no drive are usually men who have easy lives, because if you had lived a hard life, you wouldn't even think to tell yourself "I'll just LDAR", doing something doesn't feel like a choice, it feels like survival, you do it because its all you know, you don't ever want to fall back into poverty, into the terrible life you once knew

Anybody who can afford to LDAR is living an easy life, their words don't even count, because they aren't even in a place in life to have drive

U just posted cringe

 

[BlkPillPres]

i think you are above average but surely you know that

I don't, I'm probably even below average, I seem above average because what I have are greater capabilities in applying thought (common sense and reasoning), there are probably many users on this site who think I'm "high IQ" and they'd beat me in an IQ test, its because I've had certain experiences that I picked up certain skills, one being the ability to apply thought, to think abstractly, I don't think its anything innate, I think its more of a perspective, a way of thinking, at its core nihilism, the problem is most users are emotional thinkers and they haven't given up that part of themselves and surrender to cruel cold logical thinking

 

[Parrtlord]

water is wet

 

[BlkPillPres]

U just posted cringe

Your entire "persona" is cringe, you think everyone isn't aware you are a larp by now with the kinds of responses you give, you clearly aren't serious about any of this

 

[Deleted member 21504]

Your entire "persona" is cringe, you think everyone isn't aware you are a larp by now with the kinds of responses you give, you clearly aren't serious about any of this

Have you considered the possibility that it might be you that is too serious about all of this?

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Theres no iq for your face

 

[jerrycan dan]

This is a major cope though, look at correlations between IQ and career. There are virtually no low IQ people STEMcelling for instance, if you are too dumb because of your genes doing a wide range of stuff becomes impossible

 

[ovrload]

TBH I think my IQ is just average, sadly its more like common sense and the ability to rationalize ones thoughts are low in supply these days

Sounds like me tbh. im very knowledgeable in certain areas, while being a complete utter brainlet in others.

 

[Parrtlord]

This is a major cope though, look at correlations between IQ and career. There are virtually no low IQ people STEMcelling for instance, if you are too dumb because of your genes doing a wide range of stuff becomes impossible

 

[muharremabi]

This is a major cope though, look at correlations between IQ and career. There are virtually no low IQ people STEMcelling for instance, if you are too dumb because of your genes doing a wide range of stuff becomes impossible

I agree. It's a fact that people with high IQ are more successful in life. OP, you have a high IQ btw, even your writing proves it.

What most incels have in common? Most of us are low iq subhumans who know nothing but make shitpost. But it's not our fault.

 

[Deleted member 21504]

"Inceldom discussion"

 

[RoastieRipper]

I got savaged so badly... felt brainmogged by OP's non stop blackpill posts so I asked how smart he is, the guy makes a thread explaining why my question was pointless and I am a retard. I havent seen anybody connect the dots as well or as consistently as you seem to be.

 

[BlkPillPres]

This is a major cope though, look at correlations between IQ and career. There are virtually no low IQ people STEMcelling for instance, if you are too dumb because of your genes doing a wide range of stuff becomes impossible

@Parrtlord

I agree. It's a fact that people with high IQ are more successful in life. OP, you have a high IQ btw, even your writing proves it.

What most incels have in common? Most of us are low iq subhumans who know nothing but make shitpost. But it's not our fault.

there are also many men with low IQ's who have certain skills/knowledge (especially in the business world) who have struck it rich, being high IQ wasn't necessary for that

1. You guys are only right in extreme cases, if you have an average IQ, you don't have an excuse to just do nothing, its just laziness, its patting yourself on the back for failure, not one person on this site has the IQ of a mentally disabled person, else they wouldn't even be able to form the sentences I'm reading as arguments against me. You arguing against me is ironically a testament to you having the capability to think rationally, the capability to possibly succeed

2. Being high IQ isn't the only path to success, if I could do it all over, I would have went into business instead of sciences during my schooling years, I would have been applying less of my IQ, but my efforts in life would have been less wasted, I'd probably be better off right now. The business world has some of the stupidest fucks ever, they just know the rules of business and tricks of the trade, and because of that they are better off than us, succeeding in life has nothing to do with IQ, it has to do with opportunity and resources

 

[Parrtlord]

@Parrtlord
1. not one person on this site has the IQ of a mentally disabled person, else they wouldn't even be able to form the sentences

DaT a CoPe fauk asS biAch u riden

 

[jerrycan dan]

The business world has some of the stupidest fucks ever, they just know the rules of business and tricks of the trade, and because of that they are better off than us, succeeding in life has nothing to do with IQ, it has to do with opportunity and resources

Autistic question maybe, but how do you succeed in the business world as an incel? You are ugly and most likely short if incel, can very good social skills and being dominant make up for this? I spent some time in a first year business course and you could feel it in the air of the room that half the people were rich Chadlites marketing themselves and ugly subhumans were there to serve as filler staring at the floor or accountants.

 

[Parrtlord]

 

[Deleted member 17724]

Having a high IQ and not doing anything with it is actually extremely high-IQ. You know that life is just a game that's not worth playing so you only live for the sake of enjoying good copes. I'm sure most NEETs have an IQ of at least 130.

A good example of this is Christopher Langan, who has one of the highest recorded IQs in the world: 195. He dropped out of university because he saw it as a waste of time and decided to spend his life doing a myriad of low-level jobs purely for his own enjoyment. He could've spent his life solving complex mathematical formulas that the majority of the world population doesn't give a fuck about so he could feel intellectually superior to the people around him but instead of doing that, he's actually out enjoying his life like a "normal" person. I think that's way better than going through life with the sort of mindset that your life has been a waste of time if you don't use your intelligence for something very specific that most other people can't do.

 

[Deleted member 20434]

No IQ test for ur face

 

[Deleted member 19858]

I'm sure most NEETs have an IQ of at least 130.

Having a high IQ and not doing anything with it is actually extremely high-IQ. You know that life is just a game that's not worth playing so you only live for the sake of enjoying good copes. I'm sure most NEETs have an IQ of at least 130.

A good example of this is Christopher Langan, who has one of the highest recorded IQs in the world: 195. He dropped out of university because he saw it as a waste of time and decided to spend his life doing a myriad of low-level jobs purely for his own enjoyment. He could've spent his life solving complex mathematical formulas that the majority of the world population doesn't give a fuck about so he could feel intellectually superior to the people around him but instead of doing that, he's actually out enjoying his life like a "normal" person. I think that's way better than going through life with the sort of mindset that your life has been a waste of time if you don't use your intelligence for something very specific that most other people can't do.

That example is an extreme case of cherrypicking. Having a high IQ and not utilizing it in a way that benefits you, like BETTER copes, is not the smartest you can do, ESPECIALLY if you're blackpilled. You have 2 great tools to help you pave through life, why in the hell wouldn't you take advantage of that?

 

[tulasdanslos]

Have you considered the possibility that it might be you that is too serious about all of this?

You sound like the reddit Joker tbh

Yeah bro, why are you serious about what you can do to improve your livelihood?
Bottom text, am I right?

 

[-EndlessVirginity-]

Have you ever met a person who has tested with a genius IQ?
I've had and it put things into perspective to know what I would be capable of if only I was born with a much higher IQ.
Guy was 3 years younger than me and was fluent in 4 languages which he never actively tried to learn, same with his stupid huge vocabulary and skills for physics and math.
Talk about genetic lottery... He was average looking though.

 

[Deleted member 21504]

You sound like the reddit Joker tbh

Yeah bro, why are you serious about what you can do to improve your livelihood?
Bottom text, am I right?

Low t, high neuroticism detected. Real cringe.

 

[Deleted member 1042]

There are a few different types of intelligence people try to measure for. For instance, I know there's something called verbal iq. Anyways...

Just observe people and you can tell iq isn't everything. I recall a story of a woman with high iq and is a member of mensa, but degraded to porndom and living as a single mother in perpetual poverty. So much for her iq. The same story for the man named Chris Langan, who has an iq of 195. Again, a man who toils in obscurity despite muh high i-q.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Have you ever met a person who has tested with a genius IQ?
I've had and it put things into perspective to know what I would be capable of if only I was born with a much higher IQ.
Guy was 3 years younger than me and was fluent in 4 languages which he never actively tried to learn, same with his stupid huge vocabulary and skills for physics and math.
Talk about genetic lottery... He was average looking though.

What has he done with those skills though?, a feat can be amazing, but if it accomplishes nothing it is still worthless, he learnt 4 languages, great, how often is he going to use those languages, whats the point of holding up storage space in your mind for multiple languages and not utilizing them

What has he applied his intelligence towards and has it yielded anything of great monetary benefit for him?

If not then you who isn't as intelligent as he is, can still trounce him in life, if you do such a thing. It doesn't take a genius to invent facebook, if Zuckerberg didn't do it, somebody else would have years later with a different name, success is all about resources and oppurtunity, but most importantly OPPORTUNITY

If you create something before someone else that is useful to people, you'll likely end up rich, if you start a business and exploit some kind of legal loophole to your advantage you can become well off

 

[vic624]

This study was linked in a previous IQ thread:

The relationship between intelligence and creativity: New support for the threshold hypothesis by means of empirical breakpoint detection

The relationship between intelligence and creativity has been subject to empirical research for decades. Nevertheless, there is yet no consensus on how these constructs are related. One of the most prominent notions concerning the interplay between intelligence ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Basically if someone is at least average IQ, they have "potential to provide new solutions to old problems" (how the study defines creativity).

IQ of around 85 IQ points was found to form the threshold for a purely quantitative measure of creative potential.

This is evident by "creative" fields like music and other arts, where people who no not appear "intelligent" still produce new output. IQ mostly measures the rate at which one can learn new concepts, but that doesn't make one creative. It's also why knowing a lot of facts and data infers intelligence, since most people have time constraints that limit how much time they can allot to learning something new. I suspect incels are often able to "mimic" high intelligence by coincidence of having more time to absorb new data because of the lack of time taken up by relationships. A medium-low IQ NEET incel could learn enough to appear high IQ because a normie would be too busy with work and his relationship to absorb the same amount of data. @Ethnic Natsoc

Our society is filled with "over educated idiots" who have devoted much time to learning ideas like gender theory and whatnot that are total horseshit but take up much of the time one should spend learning truth. It's why the only people who can understand inceldom without experiencing it are high IQ people who can learn new concepts quickly.

Restrictive systems like in mainland China seem doomed to fail because they lack the freedom to allow creativity from throughout the society. They alternatively could excel if the restriction of ideas keeps out information that is just a waste of effort to understand. Having done this with religion seems to have been mostly a net benefit.

 

[BlkPillPres]

A good example of this is Christopher Langan, who has one of the highest recorded IQs in the world: 195. He dropped out of university because he saw it as a waste of time and decided to spend his life doing a myriad of low-level jobs purely for his own enjoyment

JFL the dude dropped out of university and didn't use his IQ to make himself rich, my point isn't that you use your IQ to solve complex things, but use it to actually make your life easier and more enjoyable, you think that guys wife isn't pissed he wasted his intelligence instead of making her life easier, he's probably getting cheated on because of it

This line you stated here ironically as though its a positive thing, is exactly my point, the dude is a complete waste, and is exactly the kind of person I was talking about:

I feel a lot of people take the test to give themselves an excuse to relax and do nothing with their lives

1. You discover you're high IQ and you become proud and complacent and do nothing
2. You discover you're low IQ and you use that as an excuse as to why you are a failure and give up to do nothing

People who take these tests are "looking for something", I'm not looking for anything, all I know is that I have to do something to get what I want from life, that's all I needed to know, the rules of the game, I'm going to play regardless

He is exhibit A of #1

I recall a story of a woman with high iq and is a member of mensa, but degraded to porndom and living as a single mother in perpetual poverty. So much for her iq. The same story for the man named Chris Langan, who has an iq of 195. Again, a man who toils in obscurity despite muh high i-q.

@Ethnic Natsoc was just touting this guy (Chris Lagan) as a fucking success story of high IQ. The guy is literally a waste of sperm (so is that woman you mentioned), is probably the only time I know of where the insult holds true and isn't just an insult

"Bro he was high IQ and now he does shitty fucking jobs for "his own enjoyment", he's winning at life"

 

[Deleted member 17724]

"Bro he was high IQ and now he does shitty fucking jobs for "his own enjoyment", he's winning at life"

My point is that he didn't have to do those jobs, he's doing them because he finds them enjoyable. I didn't say doing shitty jobs that don't pay a lot is the best way to lead your life.

 

[YogiBear]

IQ is multiplayer of common sense. IQ is important in every field even in many creative fields. You have to work in editing software and it is hard to learn it even with high IQ.

You can have talent and creativity in your mind, but if you are not able to learn how to work in these programs it is over.
My IQ is average but my memory is so bad, i can´t remember steps, names and everything is like it disappear in my head. Maybe i have ADD tbh.

 

[-EndlessVirginity-]

What has he done with those skills though?, a feat can be amazing, but if it accomplishes nothing it is still worthless, he learnt 4 languages, great, how often is he going to use those languages, whats the point of holding up storage space in your mind for multiple languages and not utilizing them

What has he applied his intelligence towards and has it yielded anything of great monetary benefit for him?

If not then you who isn't as intelligent as he is, can still trounce him in life, if you do such a thing. It doesn't take a genius to invent facebook, if Zuckerberg didn't do it, somebody else would have years later with a different name, success is all about resources and oppurtunity, but most importantly OPPORTUNITY

If you create something before someone else that is useful to people, you'll likely end up rich, if you start a business and exploit some kind of legal loophole to your advantage you can become well off

Intelligence is valuable and an asset because you can benefit from it. It's seen as a positive trait to have for that very reason. You can't deny the importance intelligence has and its relation with a life of success. For a thread where you want to discuss about IQ, this is a really dumb thing to write:

Having a high IQ doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, and that's why its pointless

"having X asset doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, therefore this asset is pointless"
No, this asset actually means something, so it's not pointless to have it.

imagine if all I planned on doing with my life, was to come online here everyday and make posts, that doesn't sound very smart to me, so even lets say that was my goal and I had a 200+IQ, in my book I'd still be an idiot

That's such an extreme example to make that it's hilarious. You could use this for an argument against everything if you put your mind to, be it looks, intelligence, creativity, skill at anything, etc.
"imagine if all I planned on doing with my life, was to come online here everyday and make posts, that doesn't sound very creative, so even lets say that was my goal and I had Da Vinci's creativity and skill for art, in my book I'd still be mediocre and an idiot" Then creativity it's pointless and it doesn't mean anyhting if you do nothing with it.

Jfl.

 

[BlkPillPres]

My point is that he didn't have to do those jobs, he's doing them because he finds them enjoyable

No that's what you are assuming, because you are applying logical thinking to him, because he's "muh high IQ", you guys need to stop conflating IQ for "being smart", IQ is ones capacity for learning, it doesn't mean you are by default a smart person that makes good decisions, a high IQ blue pilled business man could still believe in "love" and get cheated on and then divorce raped (probably even become homeless), while a low IQ black pilled business man would have the sense to understand that love doesn't exist and its too risky to get married under current laws, he'll keep all of his wealth

You are falsely assuming that because he's high IQ, he's logical, so it must be that he's doing these crappy jobs for enjoyment, it literally could be that he was raised in such an environment that he values such jobs and see's them as what makes "a man a man", he has respect for hands on work, and values the concept of being a "hard worker", and those values have blinded him and made him an emotional thinker (subjective) rather than a logical thinker (objective)

I'm going to make a guess, he's religious isn't he?, being religious isn't logical

 

[Deleted member 17724]

I'm going to make a guess, he's religious isn't he?, being religious isn't logical

No, it said that he believes in God but doesn't follow any religion.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Intelligence is valuable and an asset because you can benefit from it. It's seen as a positive trait to have for that very reason. You can't deny the importance intelligence has and its relation with a life of success. For a thread where you want to discuss about IQ, this is a really dumb thing to write:

"having X asset doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, therefore this asset is pointless"
No, this asset actually means something, so it's not pointless to have it.

I never said the asset is pointless, but it only makes a difference in extreme cases, the entire point of this thread is to point out there are just a bunch of lazy fucks on this forum who just want to do nothing and complain, they have an average IQ, that's more than enough to become successful

its very ironic for you to point this out:

"having X asset doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, therefore this asset is pointless"

and not realize that many incels make the inverse of this argument all the time on this site
"I don't have a high IQ so anything I do is pointless"

"imagine if all I planned on doing with my life, was to come online here everyday and make posts, that doesn't sound very creative, so even lets say that was my goal and I had Da Vinci's creativity and skill for art, in my book I'd still be mediocre and an idiot" Then creativity it's pointless and it doesn't mean anyhting if you do nothing with it.

Jfl.

Actually yes, this is common sense, you are making this argument like you are actually making a point JFL

If you are extremely talented, and you do nothing with it, its a waste

Everything is pointless if it isn't applied or used, that's common sense, the computer that I am messaging you on right now is nothing but a lump of plastics and metals if I just left it in a drawer and never used it, everything is rendered pointless if not utilized

 

[mylifeistrash]

A few people have been asking me if I have gotten my IQ tested or if I ever will

Never actually did a test and I don't see the point

I've always argued that:

1. CSQ (Common Sense Quotient) > IQ (Intelligence Quotient)

2. Intelligence is just a substitute for actual capability (made a thread about it too)

Intelligence Is Just A Substitute For Capability

I've said this before and i'll say it again, intelligence is nothing but a substitute for actual ability, so even from an evolutionary perspective one being high in intelligence is more of an indicator to females that said individual lacks the physical capability to take or attain what they want...

incels.is

Having a high IQ doesn't mean anything if you do nothing with it, and that's why its pointless, imagine if all I planned on doing with my life, was to come online here everyday and make posts, that doesn't sound very smart to me, so even lets say that was my goal and I had a 200+IQ, in my book I'd still be an idiot, there are also many men with low IQ's who have certain skills/knowledge (especially in the business world) who have struck it rich, being high IQ wasn't necessary for that

I feel like IQ is a cope a lot of people cling to so they can have something to feel good about, being high IQ and not applying it in any way that leads to your success is not boast worthy, its not something to be proud of, so it doesn't matter how high IQ I am until I becoming successful via said IQ

The results of an IQ test would make no difference to me, I'd still pursue all my goals the same way

I feel a lot of people take the test to give themselves an excuse to relax and do nothing with their lives

1. You discover you're high IQ and you become proud and complacent and do nothing
2. You discover you're low IQ and you use that as an excuse as to why you are a failure and give up to do nothing

People who take these tests are "looking for something", I'm not looking for anything, all I know is that I have to do something to get what I want from life, that's all I needed to know, the rules of the game, I'm going to play regardless

You should make some online index of your posts. Or maybe a PDF with all of them. I'd read that shit on a plane or something.

 

[Deleted member 20056]

Have you ever met a person who has tested with a genius IQ?
I've had and it put things into perspective to know what I would be capable of if only I was born with a much higher IQ.
Guy was 3 years younger than me and was fluent in 4 languages which he never actively tried to learn, same with his stupid huge vocabulary and skills for physics and math.
Talk about genetic lottery... He was average looking though.

Having a high IQ doesn't make you magically become fluent in four languages. I am modestly above genius IQ and although I do notice that most things are easier for me, I still have to pay attention and apply myself in some capacity. Your friend was probably lying or exaggerating how little effort he was putting in.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Having a high IQ doesn't make you magically become fluent in four languages. I am modestly above genius IQ and although I do notice that most things are easier for me, I still have to pay attention and apply myself in some capacity. Your friend was probably lying or exaggerating how little effort he was putting in.

This is true in a sense, having a high IQ doesn't just make you capable of learning any and everything better than anyone with a lower IQ than you, there are other factors like how your brain is structured, etc

Some people just have more developed sections in their brains, for example the parts that have more to do with learning and understanding languages, for such individuals its easy to become a "polyglot"

You should make some online index of your posts. Or maybe a PDF with all of them. I'd read that shit on a plane or something.

I plan on starting to save all of them in a document or something, would be a waste if this forum got shutdown and I lost all of these posts that I could use to help write my manifesto or a book

 

[-EndlessVirginity-]

I never said the asset is pointless, but it only makes a difference in extreme cases, the entire point of this thread is to point out there are just a bunch of lazy fucks on this forum who just want to do nothing and complain, they have an average IQ, that's more than enough to become successful

its very ironic for you to point this out:


and not realize that many incels make the inverse of this argument all the time on this site
"I don't have a high IQ so anything I do is pointless"




Actually yes, this is common sense, you are making this argument like you are actually making a point JFL

If you are extremely talented, and you do nothing with it, its a waste

Everything is pointless if it isn't applied or used, that's common sense, the computer that I am messaging you on right now is nothing but a lump of plastics and metals if I just left it in a drawer and never used it, everything is rendered pointless if not utilized

I know the point of your thread, it's just the arguments that you used to prove how stupid that way of thinking is that are bad.
If we agree that life is pointless we can't really have much leverage when trying to convince others of doing something with their lives, words or logic fall flat. We can only be forced by someone or something.

Having a high IQ doesn't make you magically become fluent in four languages. I am modestly above genius IQ and although I do notice that most things are easier for me, I still have to pay attention and apply myself in some capacity. Your friend was probably lying or exaggerating how little effort he was putting in.

Maybe not fluent, but he knew french, english, spanish, and baske.

 

[Deleted member 20056]

This is true in a sense, having a high IQ doesn't just make you capable of learning any and everything better than anyone with a lower IQ than you, there are other factors like how your brain is structured, etc

Some people just have more developed sections in their brains, for example the parts that have more to do with learning and understanding languages, for such individuals its easy to become a "polyglot"

Most high IQcels I've met exaggerate their achievements, and it's often the one thing they can boast about. I think the "I just learned four languages without trying np" phenomenon, when it's genuine, is often more cultural and social than biological in its origins anyway. That's why there are such things as golden ages, or a renaissance. Plato wasn't over 9000 IQ, he was just born around 428 BC in an Athenian golden age. It's a combination of factors that we cannot quantify, and it's largely impossible to say anything useful them, but some people just stumble into flourishing for various reasons and get into a positive feedback loop.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I know the point of your thread, it's just the arguments that you used to prove how stupid that way of thinking is that are bad.
If we agree that life is pointless we can't really have much leverage when trying to convince others of doing something with their lives, words or logic fall flat. We can only be forced by someone or something.

Existence being pointless doesn't stop pleasure from being enjoyable, that's why humans pursue pleasure despite an existential crisis, nobody needs life to have a point, they just want to keep living and enjoy living, If I could choose to be immortal I'd jump at the chance to make it happen

Maybe not fluent, but he knew french, english, spanish, and baske.

To what extent, could he carry on a conversation fluently in all four languages with native speakers? (I doubt it, that takes years upon years), and even if he could, what opportunities even arise for him to utilize all four in a consistent fashion, none, not unless he becomes a translator

 

[-EndlessVirginity-]

Existence being pointless doesn't stop pleasure from being enjoyable, that's why humans pursue pleasure despite an existential crisis, nobody needs life to have a point, they just want to keep living and enjoy living, If I could choose to be immortal I'd jump at the chance to make it happen



To what extent, could he carry on a conversation fluently in all four languages with native speakers? (I doubt it, that takes years upon years), and even if he could, what opportunities even arise for him to utilize all four in a consistent fashion, none, not unless he becomes a translator

Existence being pointless makes the suffering you have to endure to be more difficult to bear. Pursuing pleasure is not a choice we always consciously make, and sometimes the pleasure we're after has a detrimental effect on our health and can be even deadly, addiction to toxic substances, for example.

About the language thing, you're already benefiting from knowing two or more languages, there are cognitive benefits, so him knowing that many languages is a positive thing and plays in his favor.

The Cognitive Benefits of Being Bilingual

Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BlkPillPres]

Existence being pointless makes the suffering you have to endure to be more difficult to bear

Yes and that's only if you are suffering, there are people who aren't, so to them pointlessness doesn't matter

Pursuing pleasure is not a choice we always consciously make

It doesn't have to be a choice, all that matters is if its enjoyable and you are alright with it happening. Breathing isn't a choice, if you tried to hold your breath to stop your body from breathing, your body will just force you to breathe, yet you enjoy it, it feels good and calming to have your lungs filled with oxygen and then to exhale

sometimes the pleasure we're after has a detrimental effect on our health and can be even deadly, addiction to toxic substances, for example

Nobody is forcing these people to take drugs so I don't get your point

About the language thing, you're already benefiting from knowing two or more languages, there are cognitive benefits, so him knowing that many languages is a positive thing and plays in his favor.

The Cognitive Benefits of Being Bilingual

Today, more of the world’s population is bilingual or multilingual than monolingual. In addition to facilitating cross-cultural communication, this trend also positively affects cognitive abilities. Researchers have shown that the bilingual brain ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You don't seem to understand what I mean by "benefit", you are stopping short of the destination, he has enhanced cognitive abilities, ok and what is he doing with those abilities, having a skill in of itself isn't a positive, its only a positive if you can apply and use it, a bird with wings in a zero gravity environment has a useless skill, there is no benefit to be derived from its wings

I don't see how you can't understand what I'm saying and what I mean by benefit, you are speaking as if being intelligent is a good thing by itself, it isn't, if he isn't doing anything with his enhanced cognitive abilities then NO ACTUAL BENEFIT IS BEING DERIVED

Lets say I was born with extremely amazing genetics with respect to physical capability, my muscles recover 10 times faster than any human, I build muscle 10 times faster, I had 9 inches of dick, my eye sight is 20/20 and doesn't regress with age, etc

Imagine now I just went on to be a fucking typist rather than a boxer, or mma fighter, or soldier, etc. Other than the big dick thing and maybe the eyesight, I completely wasted my genetics, I am not utilizing it, just having a positive trait doesn't make it BENEFICIAL, what makes it BENEFICIAL, is IF YOU CAN USE IT TO YOUR BENEFIT (NOT MERELY HAVING THE TRAIT)

 

[-EndlessVirginity-]

Yes and that's only if you are suffering, there are people who aren't, so to them pointlessness doesn't matter



It doesn't have to be a choice, all that matters is if its enjoyable and you are alright with it happening



Nobody is forcing these people to take drugs so I don't get your point



You don't seem to understand what I mean by "benefit", you are stopping short of the destination, he has enhanced cognitive abilities, ok and what is he doing with those abilities, having a skill in of itself isn't a positive, its only a positive if you can apply and use it, a bird with wings in a zero gravity environment has a useless skill

I don't see how you can't understand what I'm saying and what I mean by benefit, you are speaking as if being intelligent is a good thing by itself, it isn't, if he isn't doing anything with his enhanced cognitive abilities then NO ACTUAL BENEFIT IS BEING DERIVED

Lets say I was born with extremely amazing genetics with respect to physical capability, my muscles recover 10 times faster than any human, I build muscle 10 times faster, I had 9 inches of dick, my eye sight is 20/20 and doesn't regress with age, etc

Imagine now I just went on to be a fucking typist, other than the big dick thing and maybe the eyesight, I completely wasted my genetics, I am not utilizing it, just having a positive trait doesn't make it BENEFICIAL, what makes it BENEFICIAL, is IF YOU CAN USE IT TO YOUR BENEFIT (NOT MERELY HAVING THE TRAIT)

Intelligence is valuable and an asset because you can benefit from it. It's seen as a positive trait to have for that very reason. You can't deny the importance intelligence has and its relation with a life of success.

This is what I wrote, don't remember writing that intelligence is an intrinsic good.
You don't consider the cognitive benefits you get from learning a language as a real benefit?
About how he has benefited from having a genius iq, he has won first place in programming contests which gave money as prize, and I think he is now working in something related to his career.

 

[Lester]

TBH I think my IQ is just average

this makes me think your IQ is pretty high actually. i myself have had a few "unofficial" IQ test done on me, and I did alright. i'm still a social retard though so I don't think IQ matters either.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

1. You discover you're high IQ and you become proud and complacent and do nothing
2. You discover you're low IQ and you use that as an excuse as to why you are a failure and give up to do nothing

Exactly. You don't need to know your iq to be successful.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Exactly. You don't need to know your iq to be successful.

This site is just full of guys looking for excuses, and I'm sure its because they've never been truly poor, its a bunch of guys who live in developed countries, where you can get "neetbux", and actually even develop a mindset where you actually feel comfortable and safe doing nothing

A thought like that could never even enter my mind, that seems like a joke to me, I have no choice but to try and make it somehow, neither do I have parents that would tolerate a child who stays at home all day and doesn't work, these guys don't realize how lucky they have it

Sad part is, it won't last forever, at some point they'll get taken off of neetbux (unless they are legit disabled), or their parents will die or get fed up and no longer be able to support their "neet lifestyle"

Also do these guys consider what happens when their parents become truly old, like "i need someone to take care of me old", imagine being a broke virgin, who now has to change his parents diapers, sorry I'm not going down that road JFL, these guys aren't thinking ahead at all, its like complete denial of reality, obviously the gravy train will end at some point (for most of them)