Blackpill Indirect prostitution is not ascension

[Personalityinkwell]

Using money directly, status, beta buxxing, or any indirect prostitution strategy doesn't make you "not" incel. You're still an incel piece of shit. You're still genetic shit. You're not good enough to turn a woman on. She's fucking you because she's basically forced to.

"Bro, but sex is sex!"

And almost all white women fuck dogs, but so fucking what? Using that definition, then no one is incel because anyone can pay money for sex.

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.

 

[BummerDrummer]

So someone can come here if they are in a betabuxx relationship with a foid giving them sex?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

So someone can come here if they are in a betabuxx relationship with a foid giving them sex?

I'm not a moderator so I don't know.

But betabuxxing is not ascension, PERIOD

 

[Deleted member 23981]

most women have bodycounts in the thousands, so even if u ascended as a psl 5 chad u still be getting leftovers

 

[Diocel]

i am a clown

 

[Personalityinkwell]

@Legendarywristcel gtfih cuck

 

[Legendarywristcel]

@Legendarywristcel gtfih cuck

I was talking about pity sex you coping retard.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I was talking about pity sex you coping retard.

i wasn't even talking about that shit

 

[Legendarywristcel]

i wasn't even talking about that shit

Ive always maintained that sex with a non hooker foid makes you "not an incel". As far as betabuxxing, havent completely made up my mind. Might be the closest a currycel like myself can get to ascension.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Ive always maintained that sex with a non hooker foid makes you "not an incel". As far as betabuxxing, havent completely made up my mind. Might be the closest a currycel like myself can get to ascension.

cucked tbh.

if a foid isn't attracted to you, you might as well be paying a hooker

 

[Legendarywristcel]

cucked tbh.

if a foid isn't attracted to you, you might as well be paying a hooker

Well yes. But in my culture, being attractive to a foid never held any value. Foids were possessions that you had to pay for. Its only recently that this concept of being attractive and validated by a foid has come into existence here.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Well yes. But in my culture, being attractive to a foid never held any value. Foids were possessions that you had to pay for. Its only recently that this concept of being attractive and validated by a foid has come into existence here.

i see

 

[Dregster666]

Using money directly, status, beta buxxing, or any indirect prostitution strategy doesn't make you "not" incel. You're still an incel piece of shit. You're still genetic shit. You're not good enough to turn a woman on. She's fucking you because she's basically forced to.

"Bro, but sex is sex!"

And almost all white women fuck dogs, but so fucking what? Using that definition, then no one is incel because anyone can pay money for sex.

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.

Zyros tier shit thread tbh ngl ded srs

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Zyros tier shit thread tbh ngl ded srs

cope

if a woman doesn't find you attractive you're genetic shit.

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

Using money directly, status, beta buxxing, or any indirect prostitution strategy doesn't make you "not" incel. You're still an incel piece of shit. You're still genetic shit. You're not good enough to turn a woman on. She's fucking you because she's basically forced to.

"Bro, but sex is sex!"

And almost all white women fuck dogs, but so fucking what? Using that definition, then no one is incel because anyone can pay money for sex.

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.

 

[UselesseatER]

High iq thread.

So someone can come here if they are in a betabuxx relationship with a foid giving them sex?

If people are allowed to pay for sex directly and it's not even considered bragging, than why shouldn't someone who spends his monthly salary on a wife in exchange for some housework and sex be that much different? Off course if that woman is attracted to him and they are in longterm relationship regardless, that's not the same. Chad can be a provider for a foid and also have her want to fuck him at the same time. But if you only get laid because of resource transfer, your just paying = prostitution.

most women have bodycounts in the thousands, so even if u ascended as a psl 5 chad u still be getting leftovers

Fair point, but if i don't think men attractive enough to fuck hot stacies give a shit if she's been fucking some other chad anyways. Fidelity is only important to beta normies. Chad can just as easilly get laid on the side as his girl, so for example 'open relationship' isn't a one-sided affair and therefore not really shamefull.

 

[BabyFuck McGirlsex]

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.

 

[PPEcel]

This.

I've had a couple of users/former users tell me that "they ascended" because they hooked up with a sugar baby on an app, only to tell me two weeks later that it was a "false ascension", because while she was willing to have sex for free the first time around, turns out she was looking for a long-term financial arrangement that he couldn't sustain.

 

[Stalin]

if a woman doesn't find you attractive you're genetic shit.

Present foids are mostly genetic shit by themselves. Recently I've started to pay more attention to foids looks out of cold interest and a lot of them indeed are ugly tier even in fakeup; of course still with nearly unlimited SMV, but they look like unfuckable garbage at the same time jfl.

So we have an interesting situation when one genetic shit values & validates another genetic shit.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Present foids are mostly genetic shit by themselves. Recently I've started to pay more attention to foids looks out of cold interest and a lot of them indeed are ugly tier even in fakeup; of course still with nearly unlimited SMV, but they look like unfuckable garbage at the same time jfl.

So we have an interesting situation when one genetic shit values & validates another genetic shit.

of course foids are genetic shit, never said otherwise.

doesn't matter because fakeup gives them infinite smv

 

[VictoryOrDeath]

Put any effort besides existing to have sex with a foid = betabuxx or "sex work"

By sex work, I do not mean what """sex workers""" ( ) do but any work artificially leading you to sex without the foid being actually attracted by you. (copied from another thread but I forgot who was the OP)

 

[Stalin]

I've had a couple of users/former users tell me that "they ascended" because they hooked up with a sugar baby on an app, only to tell me two weeks later that it was a "false ascension", because while she was willing to have sex for free the first time around, turns out she was looking for a long-term financial arrangement that he couldn't sustain.

Vietnam Philippines and Thailand Tinder foids are ~95% like this. Some are not actual prostitutes, but nearly all of them are looking for sponsors with potential freebie offerings(free sex on a first few dates).

of course foids are genetic shit, never said otherwise.

At least some males have the guts to admit being a genetic shit, but a typical fakeuped ugly foid will always continue to consider herself beautiful, jfl.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

So someone can come here if they are in a betabuxx relationship with a foid giving them sex?

actually some dude got banned for saying they were a marriedcel and got sex in the past, so the answer is no, they can't post here

 

[Deleted member 19236]

are you implying that sexhavers are incel? because they have not "ascended"?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

are you implying that sexhavers are incel? because they have not "ascended"?

this was a sarcastic thread.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

this was a sarcastic thread.

Hopefully...

 

[JosefMengelecel]

I agree with you on this one. You didn’t ascend with shit if you betabuxx. It really is indirect prostitution as you said. She only does it because you give her money.They aren’t incel but they definitely have nothing to brag about

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Hopefully...

I made a similar thread, somewhat sarcastic:

https://incels.is/threads/indirect-prostitution-is-not-ascension.214236/

tough to say though. I mean if a dude is normie looking but is a star athlete and gets hot chicks, that's not incel.

 

[watcher]

Imagine telling yourself that you are not incel even though you would never fuck anyone without paying for it. That would be like you paying for people to be nice to you and saying that you have friends.

 

[JosefMengelecel]

If people are allowed to pay for sex directly and it's not even considered bragging, than why shouldn't someone who spends his monthly salary on a wife in exchange for some housework and sex be that much different? Off course if that woman is attracted to him and they are in longterm relationship regardless, that's not the same. Chad can be a provider for a foid and also have her want to fuck him at the same time. But if you only get laid because of resource transfer, your just paying = prostitution.

Agreed. I really don’t want people here to make this mistake and think they ascended. If the foid isn’t attracted to you and just your money it is still technically prostitution. She is exploiting you for your money

Imagine telling yourself that you are not incel even though you would never fuck anyone without paying for it. That would be like you paying for people to be nice to you and saying that you have friends.

High iq analogy. Some things have to be done legitimately. It just won’t feel the same otherwise. As you said it’s the same as paying someone money to hangout with you and thinking you made a new friend. You didn’t he only hung out with you because he gets money

 

[watcher]

"All men are paying for sex" | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

I have seen this cope pretty often, especially with the escortcel crowd, they believe that all men are paying for sex. First of all, I want to make it clear that I have absolutely nothing against prostitution, and I will be the first to admit that I am even a little jealous of men who can...

incels.is

So someone can come here if they are in a betabuxx relationship with a foid giving them sex?

We accept escortcels so why not

I've had a couple of users/former users tell me that "they ascended" because they hooked up with a sugar baby on an app

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Imagine telling yourself that you are not incel even though you would never fuck anyone without paying for it. That would be like you paying for people to be nice to you and saying that you have friends.

"I have sex but Im still involuntary celibate"
-the escortmaxxer thought process

 

[Personalityinkwell]

"I have sex but Im still involuntary celibate"
-the escortmaxxer thought process

you are just a volcel if you don't use escorts then, no?

 

[Deleted member 19236]

you are just a volcel if you don't use escorts then, no?

I can't use escorts rn, but I would if I could.
Some people can't hire prostitutes, bro. Get it into your head.

no one is incel because anyone can pay money for sex.

^
look at this, pure projection
maybe you can pay money for sex, but I cant.

 

[watcher]

I can't use escorts rn, but I would if I could.
Some people can't hire prostitutes, bro. Get it into your head.


^
look at this, pure projection
maybe you can pay money for sex, but I cant.

How can someone be unable to hire escorts? They exist in every place in the world, being a prostitute exists since sex exists

 

[Personalityinkwell]

How can someone be unable to hire escorts? They exist in every place in the world, being a prostitute exists since sex exists

he's poorcel apparently

if that was the case then only the poorest of the poor could be here.

 

[watcher]

he's poorcel apparently

if that was the case then only the poorest of the poor could be here.

If you can buy a freaking computer and pay for internet services then you surely can hire escorts, at least the cheap ones.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

How can someone be unable to hire escorts? They exist in every place in the world, being a prostitute exists since sex exists

There are so many variables, just force your mind a little bit and you shall be able to figure out how some people cant hire whores.

 

[watcher]

There are so many variables, just force your mind a little bit and you shall be able to figure out how some people cant hire whores.

The only men who can't hire escorts are the ones who are so poor they can barely afford food. You have a computer and internet so you have enough money for escorts, keep coping.

 

[ChinaCurry]

Agree, would also say JBW ascending with ethnic foids and ethnics ascending with their own ethnicity, in the words of Mike Tyson, 'doesn't count'

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Using money directly, status, beta buxxing, or any indirect prostitution strategy doesn't make you "not" incel. You're still an incel piece of shit. You're still genetic shit. You're not good enough to turn a woman on. She's fucking you because she's basically forced to.

"Bro, but sex is sex!"

And almost all white women fuck dogs, but so fucking what? Using that definition, then no one is incel because anyone can pay money for sex.

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.

Yes.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

The only men who can't hire escorts are the ones who are so poor they can barely afford food. You have a computer and internet so you have enough money for escorts, keep coping.

he might live somewhere where it's illegal

 

[watcher]

he might live somewhere where it's illegal

So? Drugs are illegal in most of the world.
The USA have a constant fucking war against it, with policemen and everything, yet they consume mountains of drugs each year.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

So? Drugs are illegal in most of the world.
The USA have a constant fucking war against it, with policemen and everything, yet they consume mountains of drugs each year.

true tbh.

anyways I can understand not wanting to take the risk though.

but gatekeeping escortcels is dumb, that I agree with you on

 

[watcher]

true tbh.

anyways I can understand not wanting to take the risk though.

but gatekeeping escortcels is dumb, that I agree with you on

He is just coping, he doesn't want to hire hookers, probably because he is a narcy like I am and so he keeps making excuses.
I wish I was an escortcel, escorts here are hot.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

but gatekeeping escortcels is dumb, that I agree with you on

I've wrote about that before, I am not against escortmaxxers posting here but they shouldn't be allowed brag and they should be banned if they do brag (this doesnt happen because they are considered escort "celibates").
According to the forum rules, sexhavers can post here but they should be indistinguishable from incels.

Blackpilled (Conditional): Person who is not currently incel, but agrees to respect the views portrayed on the forum. The user should be indistinguishable from other incel members, and mentioning they aren't incel is an instant ban.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I've wrote about that before, I am not against escortmaxxers posting here but they shouldn't be allowed brag and they should be banned if they do brag (this doesnt happen because they are considered escort "celibates").
According to the forum rules, sexhavers can post here but they should be indistinguishable from incels.

that's a decent proposition tbh. i can understand

although the mods have seemed to say that it doesn't matter

 

[Deleted member 19236]

that's a decent proposition tbh. i can understand

although the mods have seemed to say that it doesn't matter

yeah

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Well women wanting you for your appearance really isn't any better, at least when looking at it from my perspective. You pay with money, other men pay with their appearance. But the thing is, Chad doesn't have to think about any of this, he doesn't have to contend with the reality that women don't want him for who he is, that if he lost his looks he would also lose the affection he receives from women.

I guess the problem is that I just want things which most people simply don't. Maybe most people truly would be content with some animalistic orgy of meaningless hedonism, idk, I can't read their minds. Honestly I wish that I didn't have a sex drive at all, but there isn't much I can really do about that. I wish that I could want someone simply because I genuinely wanted to be with them. When I think about physical attraction, really it's just an adaptation which helps us discern who would produce desirable children, so they can then go onto be better predators. It's fucking repulsive to me, as are most things in life when I'm not purposely distracting myself from thinking about them.

I've wrote about that before, I am not against escortmaxxers posting here but they shouldn't be allowed brag and they should be banned if they do brag (this doesnt happen because they are considered escort "celibates").
According to the forum rules, sexhavers can post here but they should be indistinguishable from incels.

Yeah, I've made the same argument before. They definitely belong here, but bragging about having sex or posting very vivid descriptions of sex shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Chorse Charming]

You've only ascended if your face makes a woman's pussy wet.