Somewhat agree.
We as incels are in fact the most oppressed group in society, but the modern left doesn't care about fighting against actual oppression.
They are elitist virtue-signallers, nothing more.
Plus, they have caused the inceldom-crisis and are at fault for our predicament!
There is no hard line. Any group that rises to power will sooner or later attract those people who want to align themselfs with power for power's sake. And most/all of the "good" that is done is done as a way to gain something for yourself, be it status with your ingroup, to fullfill your need to feel superior and give said superiority some meassurable real life basis, just out of the neurotic instinct to accumulate good boy points for when all the dark secrets you carry around with you get exposed and you will need as many of those points as you can get to prevent everyone from hating you.
But despite all that, the type of person who is most moved by empathy and pitty and who cares about the suffering of others is most common amongst the left. Many of these people are ignorantly going along with the central lies of our times, some are too afraid or too selfish to oppose their fellow lefties, they are all still human and the human baseline sucks ass. But they, at least in theory, can be made to care, can be moved by our plight. Even the people only interested in virtue-signaling will go along if being more pro-male or just less anti-male starts to look like it might become high status next. The true believers will follow their moral compas if they can be convinced, the opportunists will go along if there is something in it for them.
Much of the inceldom-crisis is the result of technological progress, and much of the social changes that led to our plight were supported by people ignorant of the consequences. It's not easy to predict things like this and most of the people involved could not have foreseen how things would play out. That they caused it is no counter to the idea that they could fix it, even independently of how many of the changes were intentional and how many weren't.
Won't happen.
Most incels are as anti-intellectual and anti-scientific as it gets, which is ironic since we constantly express how our ideology is
based on scientific consensus.
You really think a bunch of genetically subhuman social pariahs will have the intellectual capacity to infiltrate MSM and academia?
Being subhuman by looks or mentally ill is fairly common in the academic world. You might almost think it a prerequisite. See Mensa-fallacy.
I suspect getting people interested in investing their entire life to fight an ideological battle for the greater good of their own group will be far more difficult than finding some high IQ autist incels. I would be a candidate to go into academia but the thought of living amongst enemies and wearing a mask made in their image for a few decades is horrifying. Not that the people going into academia even have to be incels themselfs. They only need to be sympathetic to our plight or the unfairness men face in general. Those kinds of
allies would also have it much easier to exist inside of the academic world without being driven insane by its hypocracy and vicious misandry.
On here many people are fairly anti-scientific, but, none the less, there is a solid scientific basis for much of BP thought. The most reasonable version of any ideology is almost never the most popular and the modern left is no differend. In a sense they are even more aggressively anti-scientific than anyone on here and yet they counquered academia. Not that I want to do something as grand as that. I just want to slightly alter the generally accepted perspective and introduce a few new ideas to the system, ones hopefully high in memetic virality. I want to cough into their faces a few times, so to speak.
Their actions prove otherwise.
Their efforts to enforce "fairness and equality" were futile at best and down-right catastrophic at worst, since at least about 100 million people died from the hands of the left.
The left is elitist, it is is antidemocratic, it is downright genocidal.
Some of the left is all of that. And many of them are misguided ok-ish people. The world is complicated and I still believe the majority of them is incompetent rather than evil. Stupid instinct-driven animals going along with w/e the spirit of their time demands of them. And that their attempts at "fairness and equality" ended in mass murder just means that the methods and ideas were shit. Almost any cause with a goal of similar scale will end up like this because there are countless ways to get things wrong but very few to get them right, dystopia is much easier to realize than utopia.
For us men in the here and now that is not really all that relevant. Do you want to be treated more fairly or not? Is a more equalized playingfield in your interest or not? You don't have to be a commie to answer "yes" to those questions.
There are political systems that are socioeconomically far-left and culturally far-right at the same time, like Muuammat Gaddafi's "third international theory" for example.
Those types of "third-positionist" ideologies would in theory be best suited for incels,
but there is no way those systems would gain any kind of large electorate, since those kinds of political systems are demonized in the western world since the end of WW2.
You said yourself, it has to be something already accepted in the mainstream. Left or right have to be made to care about male group interests. Try both and go with the one where it works out better. No loyality to any party though, those are a means to an end, the wider ingroup is men and male allies, the narrow ingroup is low status men, incels, truecels, w/e.
Unfortunately have to agree here.
It's over for conservatives, we can't resurrect the things the leftist elites have destroyed.
This is a woman's world now, we can't turn back time.
I think we can turn it into a more male friendly world. Giving up is safe and easy, risk free and low effort. I should find some bet on one of the prediction markets that directly relates to this question. That way we can put our money where our mouth is, bet for or against something concrete that relates to the future of men in society and see if you all are really certain enough to bet real money on your complete hopelessness.
