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Everybody online when they hear incel they think about thirsty virgins who are angry because they can't get laid. Lmao. Getting laid is the least of my concerns and probably for many incels. Being unwanted by women is just a tiny part of being incel and the consequence of it not the reason for being incel and being incel is not a choice. I am just so tired to struggle against the current, life obviously wants me to suffer, and life is society u just cant escape being social even if you are loner its not possible you will deal with people sooner or later and if ur truecel its over for you unless you are NT maxxed but even then you will still suffer many shortcomings in life even if you are NT god and make friends you will still be subconsciously treated worse than everybody else and maybe ur a fucking retard and dont mind being pushed around by everybody but its not even up to debate its literally documented and proved that attractiveness matters in your pay. The only way to get good is to just get a good tech skill or some shit build facebook v2 and get an asian wife like that cuck mark zuckberg or whatever his name is.

All of this is insignificant even if u pass ur genes on what does it matter we probably just going to die soon and fade away into whatever elements we were build into all of this shit about morality and prosterity is just such bs why should we buy into it there is nothing in it for us just get pushed around all ur life and work for ur society like a good slave u are this is what they want us to be.

being incel is waking up every morning hoping that todays day will be the lower grade of miserable. Every little achievenment, every little triumph only lasts long enough for you to taste what it feels like having a normal life just before god decides to trample you with his new air-maxes that he got from his gf for giving her a good deep throat. Sure, some fight it, succesfully even, and for what? Struggle all your life so you can die and have all your efforts wasted. One must do something real great and meaningful to be remebered but even then, time will eventually consume all and none of this boring millennia will have any significance what so ever. This is just a fucking filler episode of humanity, all our problems and visions so irrelevant, all our suffering means nothing. And yet here we are, born into this shit, the only logical conclusion all of this leads to is suicide.
 
Getting laid is the least of my concerns and probably for many incels

All of this is insignificant even if u pass ur genes on what does it matter we probably just going to die soon and fade away into whatever elements we were build into all of this shit about morality and prosterity is just such bs

Its funny that you say this and yet you still want "more" than just sex, why do you even care about being desired if its all so insignificant?
 
Everybody online when they hear incel they think about thirsty virgins who are angry because they can't get laid. Lmao. Getting laid is the least of my concerns and probably for many incels. Being unwanted by women is just a tiny part of being incel and the consequence of it not the reason for being incel and being incel is not a choice. I am just so tired to struggle against the current, life obviously wants me to suffer, and life is society u just cant escape being social even if you are loner its not possible you will deal with people sooner or later and if ur truecel its over for you unless you are NT maxxed but even then you will still suffer many shortcomings in life even if you are NT god and make friends you will still be subconsciously treated worse than everybody else and maybe ur a fucking retard and dont mind being pushed around by everybody but its not even up to debate its literally documented and proved that attractiveness matters in your pay. The only way to get good is to just get a good tech skill or some shit build facebook v2 and get an asian wife like that cuck mark zuckberg or whatever his name is.

All of this is insignificant even if u pass ur genes on what does it matter we probably just going to die soon and fade away into whatever elements we were build into all of this shit about morality and prosterity is just such bs why should we buy into it there is nothing in it for us just get pushed around all ur life and work for ur society like a good slave u are this is what they want us to be.

being incel is waking up every morning hoping that todays day will be the lower grade of miserable. Every little achievenment, every little triumph only lasts long enough for you to taste what it feels like having a normal life just before god decides to trample you with his new air-maxes that he got from his gf for giving her a good deep throat. Sure, some fight it, succesfully even, and for what? Struggle all your life so you can die and have all your efforts wasted. One must do something real great and meaningful to be remebered but even then, time will eventually consume all and none of this boring millennia will have any significance what so ever. This is just a fucking filler episode of humanity, all our problems and visions so irrelevant, all our suffering means nothing. And yet here we are, born into this shit, the only logical conclusion all of this leads to is suicide.
breutally on pouint. inceldom trasnscends romance. u will be treated wortse by men too. many things u cannot have casue tgreucxwl
 
Its funny that you say this and yet you still want "more" than just sex, why do you even care about being desired if its all so insignificant?

Because nature programmed it into my head not something I can control even if I am aware of it. Blame my mother.
 
We’re involuntary celibates , I’m ok with the label. I want sex and validation
 
breutally on pouint. inceldom trasnscends romance. u will be treated wortse by men too. many things u cannot have casue tgreucxwl

Exactly, ugly men can also get socially and economically excluded, not just sexually and romantically.
 
Truly however you try to look at life, the most reasonable thing to do is to end it.
 
Being an incel is not about being involuntary celibate anymore, it's about being blackpilled. No other group uses this word.

Exactly, ugly men can also get socially and economically excluded, not just sexually and romantically.
You have to be literally deformed to be excluded solely because of your looks.
 
Everybody online when they hear incel they think about thirsty virgins who are angry because they can't get laid. Lmao. Getting laid is the least of my concerns and probably for many incels. Being unwanted by women is just a tiny part of being incel and the consequence of it not the reason for being incel and being incel is not a choice. I am just so tired to struggle against the current, life obviously wants me to suffer, and life is society u just cant escape being social even if you are loner its not possible you will deal with people sooner or later and if ur truecel its over for you unless you are NT maxxed but even then you will still suffer many shortcomings in life even if you are NT god and make friends you will still be subconsciously treated worse than everybody else and maybe ur a fucking retard and dont mind being pushed around by everybody but its not even up to debate its literally documented and proved that attractiveness matters in your pay. The only way to get good is to just get a good tech skill or some shit build facebook v2 and get an asian wife like that cuck mark zuckberg or whatever his name is.

All of this is insignificant even if u pass ur genes on what does it matter we probably just going to die soon and fade away into whatever elements we were build into all of this shit about morality and prosterity is just such bs why should we buy into it there is nothing in it for us just get pushed around all ur life and work for ur society like a good slave u are this is what they want us to be.

being incel is waking up every morning hoping that todays day will be the lower grade of miserable. Every little achievenment, every little triumph only lasts long enough for you to taste what it feels like having a normal life just before god decides to trample you with his new air-maxes that he got from his gf for giving her a good deep throat. Sure, some fight it, succesfully even, and for what? Struggle all your life so you can die and have all your efforts wasted. One must do something real great and meaningful to be remebered but even then, time will eventually consume all and none of this boring millennia will have any significance what so ever. This is just a fucking filler episode of humanity, all our problems and visions so irrelevant, all our suffering means nothing. And yet here we are, born into this shit, the only logical conclusion all of this leads to is suicide.
Vash the stampede, the only cure for us is to moneymax and to get plastic surgery. Women will never like us in our natural state. We can still have a good life through the pleasures that money brings.
 
Doesn't matter what we call ourselves, we will always be demonized because of the way we look. Normies will know who the trucels are just by analyzing our faces, if you haven't experienced this you are not a trucel
 
Doesn't matter what we call ourselves, we will always be demonized because of the way we look. Normies will know who the trucels are just by analyzing our faces, if you haven't experienced this you are not a trucel

Ye maybe we should just own this word now like the niggers they use nigga nigga now because they own that word they made it their own and it doesnt have negative annotation anymore quiet the opposite it only has negative annotation if its used outside their group so we should do same.

blackcels give advice pls
 
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I rather just get sex from a chad dick riding rostie, I don't want a relationship with one. I'd only be in a serious relationship with a teenage virgin.
 
Too late to change it unless you want to identify as something else and create new labels..
 
You can be a true forced lonelycel, but they're pretty cucked and no one cares about them.
 
Because nature programmed it into my head not something I can control even if I am aware of it. Blame my mother.

No it has nothing to do with nature, its just you choosing to think this way, men of the past weren't as "love" obsessed as men today are, guys like you literally pretend like the cultural differences of the past never happened, and we were always getting down on one knee to propose and giving women flowers

You are pretending as if socialization had nothing to do with how you think and what you feel, you are still operating based on the ruleset you were indoctrinated with from birth, this thread here is the perfect one for you, hard to swallow edition, its just you, you are your own worst enemy, its you keeping yourself mentally cucked


I find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindset

So whenever I hear guys on this site saying - "I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be loved"

I CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETC

THOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT :feelskek: (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)

SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?

THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATION


MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED
 
No it has nothing to do with nature, its just you choosing to think this way, men of the past weren't as "love" obsessed as men today are, guys like you literally pretend like the cultural differences of the past never happened, and we were always getting down on one knee to propose and giving women flowers

You are pretending as if socialization had nothing to do with how you think and what you feel, you are still operating based on the ruleset you were indoctrinated with from birth, this thread here is the perfect one for you, hard to swallow edition, its just you, you are your own worst enemy, its you keeping yourself mentally cucked

Why are we here on incels.co then bro? The main problem is not being able to have romantic relationship with women, rather than having sex.

Incel is a label given to people who have not had a proper relationship with women, so it's beyond your control. The subject should not be reduced to an amateur situation like just not being able to fuck a pussy because we incels lack the interest and love of the opposite sex, and these are the reasons for the lack.
 
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Why are we here on incels.co then bro? The main problem is not being able to have romantic relationship with women, rather than having sex.

Incel is a label given to people who have not had a proper relationship with women, so it's beyond your control. The subject should not be reduced to an amateur situation like just not being able to fuck a pussy because we incels lack the interest and love of the opposite sex, and these are the reasons for the lack.
Do you want a relationship with a chad dick chasing rostie or just sex? Not even chads want relationships with old used hoes, and non-cucks don't want relationships with chad's leftovers. I only want a serious relationship with a young virgin, and I just want sex from old used rosties. Would my label be "incel with rosties, but seeking a realtionship with a virgin"?
 
Why are we here on incels.co then bro? The main problem is not being able to have romantic relationship with women, rather than having sex.

Incel is a label given to people who have not had a proper relationship with women, so it's beyond your control. The subject should not be reduced to an amateur situation like just not being able to fuck a pussy because we incels lack the interest and love of the opposite sex, and these are the reasons for the lack.

You are falsely conflating the prerequisite with the goal, the goal has and always will be sex, the prerequisite is gaining women's romantic interests

If romantic interest is your goal then you'd be fine being a cuck in an open relationship, sorry, I don't rank women so high in my mind that merely being in a relationship with one brightens my day an makes me feel better, sex is my goal, you guys are just mentally cucked and you don't want to break your programming because you are too comfortable with it

The rest of us were raised to think just as you do and I once did, so the argument that "you can't help it" is complete BS, stop pretending like your indoctrination is "your nature", you were raised to think like this, it isn't a natural part of the way men operate, put us all back into the wild and all the BS you are talking about is magically not important anymore

Do you want a relationship with a chad dick chasing rostie or just sex? Not even chads want relationships with old used hoes, and non-cucks don't want relationships with chad's leftovers. I only want a serious relationship with a young virgin, and I just want sex from old used rosties. Would my label be "incel with rosties, but seeking a realtionship with a virgin"?

This I will agree with, but in my case I've reached the point where I don't want any relationship period, it just feels too fake and artificial to me at this point, I just want sex, which is why I'd prefer to escortcel, I don't care for conversations or "getting to know women" anymore, all of that communication just feels like a hassle now, I've already been robbed of so much time and experiences, why should I waste my time putting up with more BS just to get used up leftovers

Even if she was a virgin, it would take a lot for her to convince me to date, I'd basically have to get "babied" and nursed back into not being cruel and heartless

People adapt to their environment, they adapt to stimuli, the person that I am now, is a result of those adaptations and choices

Not all adaptations are certain though, I chose to go this route in some sense, and its going to take a lot to reverse it

Now ask yourself which woman in this day and age, on top of being a virgin, is going to be willing to nurse an incel male back into "being human"?

JFL never going to happen, most of us are damaged goods at this point, and women not only hate us for our lack of looks, but they are unwilling to put in any effort to make us into something worthwhile, when they already have attractive worthwhile men lining up, you literally can't compete, there's no point in trying to play this rigged game anymore
 
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We are incels and we will call ourselves incels until we die
 
You are falsely conflating the prerequisite with the goal, the goal has and always will be sex, the prerequisite is gaining women's romantic interests

If romantic interest is your goal then you'd be fine being a cuck in an open relationship, sorry, I don't rank women so high in my mind that merely being in a relationship with one brightens my day an makes me feel better, sex is my goal, you guys are just mentally cucked and you don't want to break your programming because you are too comfortable with it

The rest of us were raised to think just as you do and I once did, so the argument that "you can't help it" is complete BS, stop pretending like your indoctrination is "your nature", you were raised to think like this, it isn't a natural part of the way men operate, put us all back into the wild and all the BS you are talking about is magically not important anymore
If sex is your only goal then you're not truly incel in my book sorry.


You guys are in rarity. You're some kind of MGTOW. If physical attraction is the only explanation for it like you said hundred times before why do some people try to perform this sexual act with only people they are in love when there are people who are sexually more attractive and easier to obtain for them?
 
We should call ourselves misogynst tbh.
 
This I will agree with, but in my case I've reached the point where I don't want any relationship period, it just feels too fake and artificial to me at this point, I just want sex, which is why I'd prefer to escortcel, I don't care for conversations or "getting to know women" anymore, all of that communication just feels like a hassle now, I've already been robbed of so much time and experiences, why should I waste my time putting up with more BS just to get used up leftovers

Even if she was a virgin, it would take a lot for her to convince me to date, I'd basically have to get "babied" and nursed back into not being cruel and heartless

People adapt to their environment, they adapt to stimuli, the person that I am now, is a result of those adaptations and choices

Not all adaptations are certain though, I chose to go this route in some sense, and its going to take a lot to reverse it

Now ask yourself which woman in this day and age, on top of being a virgin, is going to be willing to nurse an incel male back into "being human"?
They treated us inhumanly first so it should be their jobs to nurse us back into enjoying relationships with foids.
JFL never going to happen, most of us are damaged goods at this point, and women not only hate us for our lack of looks, but they are unwilling to put in any effort to make us into something worthwhile, when they already have attractive worthwhile men lining up, you literally can't compete, there's no point in trying to play this rigged game anymore
When old used rosties start getting replaced with sexbots and artificial wombs, the young virgin foids will flock to all the stable incels and try to "fix" them. Because if they don't most of us will do just fine escortcelling and fucking sexbots.
 
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Agreed but it sounds edgy,so we'll keep it.
 
Damaged or not, calling yourself Forever Alone or TFL did nothing to dignify the sentiment. At most, you will get lumped with the rest of the manosphere or just brutally ignored.
 
Last night I had taken a message from my crush too literally. I thought I had ascended and I put on some good music and danced, I went to sleep happy, I was so happy that I woke up early and without any fatigue (never happened before). I was ecstatic.

Well of course, I’m back in here so what do you think happened. Too good to be true

JFL at having nice things in life. Never, it’s over.
 
They treated us inhumanly first so it should be their jobs to nurse us back into enjoying relationships with foids.

When old used rosties start getting replaced with sexbots and artificial wombs, the young virgin foids will flock to all the stable incels and try to "fix" them. Because if they don't most of us will do just fine escortcelling and fucking sexbots.

Sadly we won't be alive to enjoy that era

We were literally born in one the shittiest eras possible

Born too late to experience the violent ages where you could at least die like a hero on the battle field, a glorious melee battle and die with honor rather than getting head shot from miles away by a sniper

Born too late to experience the era where things were kind modern but society was still strongly religious and had patriarchal values

Born too early to experience the era of true male freedom where we are no longer at the mercy of women to have access to sex and to reproduce

We were literally born in the shittiest era possible, we get no glory, no order, no nothing, were inbetween everything that is good
 
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If sex is your only goal then you're not truly incel in my book sorry.

JFL at this logic

INCEL

INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE

CELIBACY AS IN NOT HAVING SEX

WHAT INCELDOM IS PRIMARILY ABOUT IS LITERALLY IN THE TERM ITSELF (INCEL)


Guys need to stop conflating "incel" with "inlon"

INLON

INVOLUNTARILY
LONELY

They're not the same thing, again, don't confuse the prerequisite with goal, you need to not be lonely (have someone) in order to have sex, you are confusing that yearning for sex with something deeper

I made a thread about this very phenomenon:

Let me give you an analogy so you get my point:
There's a guy who is frustrated and complaining about not being 16 years old yet, and that he can't drive a car because its illegal at his age

You are saying he's frustrated because he's 16 years old, I'm saying you're wrong, the prerequisite to drive is being 16 years old

What he really wants to do is drive, not be 16, he just has to be 16 to drive, and he speaks as if he hates being under 16 because he gets teased about it, but if he could drive he wouldn't care that he's under 16

He like you, is falsely conflating his frustration with being 16, when actually he's frustrated that he can't drive, if he could skip the age limit and just drive, he wouldn't care about being under 16 and getting teased about it, the driving is the issue, not the age (sexual satisfaction is the issue, not lacking companionship/loneliness)




why do some people try to perform this sexual act with only people they are in love when there are people who are sexually more attractive and easier to obtain for them?

1. That's like saying - "if working is about having income, why do some people put in extra hours for free to help out around the work place"

Here's the question, you said "some" people, are you willing to say its "most" people, if not then you've already made my point for me, there are always exceptions

2. Love doesn't exist, you sound extremely blue pilled and deluded, it all comes down to physical attraction
 
"even if it's accurate" is wrong though OP because we make the choice not to attempt gay sex because it doesn't appeal to us, so that's still celibacy. So how is not attempting sex with 1/10 landwhales any different?
 
JFL at this logic

INCEL

INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE

CELIBACY AS IN NOT HAVING SEX

WHAT INCELDOM IS PRIMARILY ABOUT IS LITERALLY IN THE TERM ITSELF (INCEL)


Guys need to stop conflating "incel" with "inlon"

INLON

INVOLUNTARILY
LONELY

They're not the same thing, again, don't confuse the prerequisite with goal, you need to not be lonely (have someone) in order to have sex, you are confusing that yearning for sex with something deeper

I made a thread about this very phenomenon:








1. That's like saying - "if working is about having income, why do some people put in extra hours for free to help out around the work place"

Here's the question, you said "some" people, are you willing to say its "most" people, if not then you've already made my point for me, there are always exceptions

2. Love doesn't exist, you sound extremely blue pilled and deluded, it all comes down to physical attraction
Nigga I just want a loving sexual relationship with a girl, ofc I wouldn’t be okay with being cucked or in an open relationship because that is a violation of that love
No one here would be miserable if they weren’t lonely because if all we wanted was sex everybody would just see escorts and it would be happy ever after
 
I’m an involuntary loner then
 
Imagine being rejected by the whole tribe & blamed for all your shortcomings, it's all your fault & when you try to fix that, you get shit on & others do what they can to make it difficult to access what you need.

You're only as good as what you did in the last 10 seconds, achieve or be average but the minute you fuck up there will be no end of ppl to point it out & ridicule you for it, everybody's just looking, waiting for an opportunity to shit on you.
 
No one here would be miserable if they weren’t lonely because if all we wanted was sex everybody would just see escorts and it would be happy ever after
Escorts are expensive in the cucked west. If it was so easy to afford fucking them I would do it every day.
 
Escorts are expensive in the cucked west. If it was so easy to afford fucking them I would do it every day.
Idk if I’d do it even if I could afford it or if it was legal in the USA. I have too many hang ups
 
Idk if I’d do it even if I could afford it or if it was legal in the USA. I have too many hang ups
If I had a million dollars I'd probably be an escort addict, but maybe I'm high t.
 
If I had a million dollars I'd probably be an escort addict, but maybe I'm high t.
I wouldn’t because I would not get over the fact that she’s faking it and hates me and hates being fucked by me
 
I wouldn’t because I would not get over the fact that she’s faking it and hates me and hates being fucked by me
I don't care about that dumb hoe. She's just a prostitute.
 
I don't care about that dumb hoe. She's just a prostitute.
I would not want to have sex with any woman who hated me or found me repulsive, hoe or no hoe
 
I would not want to have sex with any woman who hated me or found me repulsive, hoe or no hoe
They must not think you're that ugly if they accept fucking you for some money. They're not forced to fuck you if they don't think it's worth the money.
 
They must not think you're that ugly if they accept fucking you for some money. They're not forced to fuck you if they don't think it's worth the money.
Some men have gotten rejected by hookers for being so ugly
That would be fucking devastating
 
Some men have gotten rejected by hookers for being so ugly
That would be fucking devastating
Those are the hookers who won't be getting your money then. Fuck those hoes.
 
1. That's like saying - "if working is about having income, why do some people put in extra hours for free to help out around the work place"

Here's the question, you said "some" people, are you willing to say its "most" people, if not then you've already made my point for me, there are always exceptions

2. Love doesn't exist, you sound extremely blue pilled and deluded, it all comes down to physical attraction
JFL you're just conflicting yourself. The same thing could be said to your argument. If the majority determines the accuracy of something then you're coping because the part of people who believe that love doesn't exist is rare. Stop coping. Love do exist and the act of love is not just sexual attraction or devotion and it's certainly an evolutionary practice.
 
Standardcel best label, focuses on not being simpcuck
 
JFL you're just conflicting yourself. The same thing could be said to your argument. If the majority determines the accuracy of something then you're coping because the part of people who believe that love doesn't exist is rare

There is no conflict, you are an idiot, belief in something doesn't make it true, the majority of people believe in God, that doesn't mean God exists by virtue of that number

Also you seem the be the confused one here

I'm saying the majority of people not committing an act outside of certain parameters means they don't see that act tied to those parameters

I'm not saying that since the majority of people BELIEVE the parameters aren't tied to the act so the parameters don't matter

Belief has nothing to do with it, actions do, anyone can claim they believe something
 
Not getting into relationships is not why incels hate femoids, it's just a part of it.
 
I am lonely and want to kill myself
 
Its funny that you say this and yet you still want "more" than just sex, why do you even care about being desired if its all so insignificant?
Let the man at least fakehighIQcope, cmon
 
Anyone who wants love and doesn’t want to just be a Chad who pumps and dumps women deserves to be shot
 
If sex is your only goal then you're not truly incel in my book sorry.


You guys are in rarity. You're some kind of MGTOW. If physical attraction is the only explanation for it like you said hundred times before why do some people try to perform this sexual act with only people they are in love when there are people who are sexually more attractive and easier to obtain for them?
incel means involuntarily celibate, you cant change the definition idiot. regardless if an incel only wants sex, or wants an LTR, if he cant get either, hes incel. stop the "im a 40yo virgin but not incel" logic
 

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