In order to help the blacks progress, we must destroy black culture

[Logic55]

Tbh best you can do is show that historically speaking some african kingdoms like Nubia/Kush, any of the ethiopian empires, somali city states and some west african empires like mali werent retarded but actually quite rich and influential

I forgot about those ancient African civilizations

 

[joocel52]

I believe this
I am Dravidian and I like to this my ancestors came from Africa unlike @anandkonda who has a small pp due to his aryan steppe ancestry

OvER for yamnayacels

 

[joocel52]

I forgot about those ancient African civilizations

Yea theres that. Now one can make the claim that all these have some tie to the near east (especielly the eastern ones like ethiopia) but they are still blacks

 

[Logic55]

No they arent, but they are ntohing like afro americans. Most are polite and pleasant to be around.

True, I visited a city with a large population of Somalians and they were nice to me

 

[joocel52]

True, I visited a city with a large population of Somalians and they were nice to me

East africans are very nice people overall, their food is great too

 

[To koniec]

His logic is stupid, he is asking me to show him a group of Africans that are successful but how can a group of people be successful when they are trapped in a poor environment?

It's mixed bag, europeans dominated world due to high IQ and individualism, might also tertiary factors affect this like nutrition

But still it's genetics who shapes you more than environment( even it plays a role ), same can be applied to whole ethnics groups not only individuals

so kinda agree with @anandkonda

 

[Logic55]

East africans are very nice people overall, their food is great too

He forgot about successful Africans like Ben Carson, barack Obama, Neil Tyson Degrasse, Clarence Thomas, Austin Loyd, Martin Luther King, and much more. This proves that blacks are just as capable as whites of being successful

 

[based_meme]

The environment creates genes that determine your physical features. There is no evidence that living in a different part of the world will develop genes that make you smarter. It's not like people who live in colder regions become higher IQ and people living in hot.or tropical climate become low IQ. I have digged for evidence that race determines your IQ, I didn't find any. All I found is that genes influence facial features, height, and the likehood of certain diseases. This is not a cope, I'm just being objective.

You're either full of shit or you haven't looked hard enough.

Literally less than a minute of searching yielded this paper from 2005 that was published by the APA.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

I've quoted the relevant excerpt.

Our conclusion, that the Black–White IQ difference is partly heritable, ac-
cords with previous analytic reviews of this literature. Loehlin et al. (1975)
concluded that Black–White IQ differences “probably” reflected “genetic differ-
ences among the groups” (p. 238). P. E. Vernon (1979) tabulated 30 main topics,
each scored on a 4-point scale, and concluded that “although the total number of
items favoring genetic influences (G and G?) is roughly balanced by the number
of environmental points (E and E?), more of the highly convincing items are G
rather than E” (p. 319). The survey of over 1,000 experts in behavioral genetics
and psychometrics by Snyderman and Rothman (1987) also found that a plurality
believed the Black–White IQ difference “to be a product of both genetic and
environmental variation” (p. 141). However, there are also notable statements to
the contrary. The APA Task Force on intelligence, for example, concluded
“[t]here is certainly no support for a genetic interpretation” (Neisser et al., 1996,
p. 97). Likewise, Nisbett (1998) reached the conclusion that “the most relevant
studies provide no evidence for the genetic superiority of either race” (p. 101).

In our opinion, the present review, similar to those of Loehlin et al. (1975) and
Vernon (1979) earlier, should be given greater weight because they surveyed a
greater range of evidence. Examining all the documentation allows a greater
chance of finding accurate explanations than does selecting a few items from the
whole. The 10 categories of predictions reviewed in Table 5 were derived from
the “hard core” assumptions of the two competing research programs, each of
which tries to explain the Black–White IQ difference (see Section 2). Based on
Lakatos’s (1970, 1978) criteria for evaluating research programs, and a philoso-
phy of science methodology that evaluates rival theories by generating multiple
strong inferences and assessing the preponderance and the consilience of many
lines of evidence, we believe the hereditarian theory has satisfied the criteria for
a “progressive” research program, whereas the culture-only program has not. Both
have drawn implications to make numerous, testable, novel predictions, but we
found the hereditarian predictions were mostly confirmed, whereas those from
culture-only theory mostly were not.

Some attempts to salvage the culture-only theory have been problematic.
Suggestions that “White flight” undermined desegregation and busing programs
so that “true” integration has not yet been properly tried, that Head Start programs
278 RUSHTON AND JENSEN
still have not been fully funded, that culture-fair tests were not really fair, that the
sensory deprivation and race-of-examiner hypotheses were of only minor signif-
icance, or that being Black in America is really a matter of caste, not class or race,
fall short of being strong inference. Urbach (1974b, p. 237) dismissed such
claims, and that the mean Black–White IQ difference is a system problem, and
that caste and class differences are complex, subtle, and attitudinal rather than
grossly econometric, as “pseudo-scientific maneuvers,” noting that “it is intellec-
tually improper to obscure facts by continually retreating behind the trivial truth
that the world is complex [italics added]”.

We believe the burden of proof must shift to those who argue for a 100%
culture-only position. For example, they need to address why, if important
minority-specific developmental processes such as stereotype threat (Steele, 1997)
and racial stigma (Loury, 2002) exert such a powerful influence on school
achievement, the correlation matrices representing developmental processes can
be so similar across ethnic and racial groups (Section 5). They need to explain
why, if gene– environment interactions are as widespread and difficult to disen-
tangle as often claimed (e.g., Block, 1995), identical twins reared apart grow to be
so similar (Bouchard, 1996; Bouchard & Loehlin, 2001). Some culture-only
hypotheses are too ambiguous to be tested.

A conundrum for theorists of all persuasions, however, is that there is too little
evidence of any environmental effects. The hereditarian model of Black–White IQ
differences proposed in Section 2 (50% genetic and 50% environmental), far from
precluding environmental factors, requires they be found. Although evidence in
Sections 3 to 11 provided strong support for the genetic component of the model,
evidence from Section 12 was unable to identify the environmental component.
On the basis of the present evidence, perhaps the genetic component must be
given greater weight and the environmental component correspondingly re-
duced. In fact, Jensen’s (1998b, p. 443) latest statement of the hereditarian model,
termed the default hypothesis, is that genetic and cultural factors carry the exact
same weight in causing the mean Black–White difference in IQ as they do in
causing individual differences in IQ, about 80% genetic–20% environmental by
adulthood.

One current challenge, therefore, is to identify significant sources of nonge-
netic variance. It is hoped that the recent models of gene– culture correlation put
forward by Dickens and Flynn (2001, 2002) to explain the paradox of large
heritability estimates and large environmental effects mark a new trend in the
race–IQ debate. Their models accept the empirical reality of both genetic and
environmental influences. Within Whites, most of the nongenetic variance ap-
pears to result from a small number of random adverse effects such as prenatal
problems, complications in the birth process, maternal health, and childhood
disease and trauma (Jensen, 1997).

 

[Logic55]

It's mixed bag, europeans dominated world due to high IQ and individualism, might also tertiary factors affect this like nutrition

But still it's genetics who shapes you more than environment( even it plays a role ), same can be applied to whole ethnics groups not only individuals

so kinda agree with @anandkonda

Genes that are linked to IQ are not more common in one race, they are found in all races. Environment matter just as much as genetics when it comes to IQ. There are studies that show that a person will smart genes but with bad environment will have lose IQ than person with bad genes but better environment.

 

[To koniec]

Genes that are linked to IQ are not more common in one race, they are found in all races. Environment matter just as much as genetics when it comes to IQ. There are studies that show that a person will smart genes but with bad environment will have lose IQ than person with bad genes but better environment.

Are there genes which link up to high IQ ? Not really into genetics but i'm into phenotypes and can for sure say that IQ variance scale exist quite a lot with dumbo phenos like brunn or high iq ones hallstatt



@based_meme ( can you provide information ? )
@DarkStar
@Chudpreet

 

[SmhChan]

Genes that are linked to IQ are not more common in one race, they are found in all races. Environment matter just as much as genetics when it comes to IQ. There are studies that show that a person will smart genes but with bad environment will have lose IQ than person with bad genes but better environment.

Idk why Blacks are targeted always even though there might as well be as many Latino criminals, especially when you take into account the cartels and shits. I do think it's a cultural issue, majorly. Besides, African Americans have been living in the US for centuries now.

 

[Logic55]

You're either full of shit or you haven't looked hard enough.

Literally less than a minute of searching yielded this paper from 2005 that was published by the APA.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

I've quoted the relevant excerpt.

These are opinions by researchers. If one researcher says that X is true does that mean X is absolutely true even if most scientists or experts disagree with X? No. Majority of scientists say that race doesn't determine IQ. I am siding with the majority, not the minority on this topic.

There is a scientist who believed in hollow earth theory, he was discredited by the scientific community. Using your logic, the earth is in fact hollow just because one scientist said it regardless of the majority of scientists disagreeing with him.

 

[anandkonda]

It's mixed bag, europeans dominated world due to high IQ and individualism, might also tertiary factors affect this like nutrition

But still it's genetics who shapes you more than environment( even it plays a role ), same can be applied to whole ethnics groups not only individuals

so kinda agree with @anandkonda

I point is, I agree IQ depends on environment. So if you are in a good environment you should be able to perform as well as rest of the races.

For example South Indian Dalits were sent to Singapore as labours back then. Now they earn more than chinks there. That means in a well environment you can assume South curries can perform as well as chinks.

Niggers are never able to perform as well as other races. It's not because of muh colonization muh poverty. It's genetic

 

[anandkonda]

No they arent, but they are ntohing like afro americans. Most are polite and pleasant to be around.

Proves that less nigger blood = less nigger behaviour

Even in US blacks with higher white DNA earn more

True, I visited a city with a large population of Somalians and they were nice to me

Somalians aren't real blacks, they're mixed

 

[based_meme]

Are there genes which link up to high IQ ? Not really into genetics but i'm into phenotypes and can for sure say that IQ variance scale exist quite a lot with dumbo phenos like brunn or high iq ones hallstatt



@based_meme ( can you provide information ? )
@DarkStar
@Chudpreet

As far I know, there aren't any specific intelligence genes. There are many factors that result in how differently distinct systems function. One set of genes could allow for more efficient propagation of neurons between neural nets or produce more neurons during neurogenesis. Any combination of these factors could result in what we observe and measure on the outside as higher or lower IQ in practice.

Simply put, a more intelligent brain is a more efficient brain. There will be a plethora of gene combos that would make this so. I don't know enough about current research on intelligence to go further. I don't think it's there yet.

 

[To koniec]

I point is, I agree IQ depends on environment. So if you are in a good environment you should be able to perform as well as rest of the races.

For example South Indian Dalits were sent to Singapore as labours back then. Now they earn more than chinks there. That means in a well environment you can assume South curries can perform as well as chinks.

Niggers are never able to perform as well as other races. It's not because of muh colonization muh poverty. It's genetic

Most indians i meet are low IQ but to degree you are right cause indians send their finest to 1st world countries...at least used to do, cause canada situation is proving something different

 

[anandkonda]

Idk why Blacks are targeted always even though there might as well be as many Latino criminals, especially when you take into account the cartels and shits. I do think it's a cultural issue, majorly. Besides, African Americans have been living in the US for centuries now.

Because they attack people. Niggers attacks curries and chinks the most

 

[To koniec]

Somalians aren't real blacks, they're mixed

Yes and no, somali phenotypes are distinct from west african ones and have sometimes strong pseudo caucasoid element ( finer and longer elonganted faces ) but they are still belong to negroid race

 

[based_meme]

These are opinions by researchers. If one researcher says that X is true does that mean X is absolutely true even if most scientists or experts disagree with X? No. Majority of scientists say that race doesn't determine IQ. I am siding with the majority, not the minority on this topic.

There is a scientist who believed in hollow earth theory, he was discredited by the scientific community. Using your logic, the earth is in fact hollow just because one scientist said it regardless of the majority of scientists disagreeing with him.

Of course, you'd just handwave the entire document after probably not even skimming the brief part I quoted.

Objective, my ass. You're not interested in the truth on this and are nothing but a staunch ideologue on this issue of race and IQ.

 

[anandkonda]

but to degree you are right cause indians send their finest to 1st world countries...

But that wasn't the case in Singapore. The Curries there were mostly Dalit labourers.

at least used to do, cause canada situation is proving something different

Indian Canadians are North Indian though

 

[Logic55]

Niggers are never able to perform as well as other races. It's not because of muh colonization muh poverty. It's genetic

I can show you hundreds and hundreds of studies to prove that IQ is linked to environment and genes, not race.

 

[anandkonda]

Yes and no, somali phenotypes are distinct from west african ones and have sometimes strong pseudo caucasoid element ( finer and longer elonganted faces ) but they are still belong to negroid race

Don't they have semitic DNA? They aren't real blacks then

 

[To koniec]

Indian Canadians are North Indian though

Nigga you obssesed with northies

I can ask you something ? Are you dark skinned ( like no light or medium brown but dark brown skin )

 

[Logic55]

Of course, you'd just handwave the entire document after probably not even skimming the brief part I quoted.

Objective, my ass. You're not interested in the truth on this and are nothing but a staunch ideologue on this issue of race and IQ.

The authors say it themselves, 'it is our opinion" they didnt say, "it is a fact that....."
I care about facts not opinions. Facts are more important than fringe theories

 

[anandkonda]

Nigga you obssesed with northies

I can ask you something ? Are you dark skinned ( like no light or medium brown but dark brown skin )

I am light brown. I'll send you my picture

 

[To koniec]

Don't they have semitic DNA? They aren't real blacks then

No clue but they are clearly black

 

[Scatius Deletus]

We must show BLACKED porn for sex education and young white women will be enticed into having kids with black men.

 

[joocel52]

No clue but they are clearly black

Somalians speak an afro-asiatic language, a group that also includes semitic languages like hebrew or arabic. Much of the east africa region is afro-asiatic and cultural interactions with the arabian peninsula, as well as migrations from and to that region are historically common.

 

[To koniec]

Somalians speak an afro-asiatic language, a group that also includes semitic languages like hebrew or arabic. Much of the east africa region is afro-asiatic and cultural interactions with the arabian peninsula, as well as migrations from and to that region are historically common.

...When i said black i mean negroids

Turks who live in anatolia speak turkic language but they aren't central asians anymore ( at least most of them ) they have different phenotypes than turkic people in turkemistan and uyghurs

 

[SmhChan]

Most indians i meet are low IQ but to degree you are right cause indians send their finest to 1st world countries...at least used to do, cause canada situation is proving something different

Jeets =/= All Curries. JFL.
Also, keep coping with low IQ while they keep outearning. You guys pay Doctors and Engineers like shit. So IIT and Med curries are better off here with significantly low living cost.

 

[joocel52]

...When i said black i mean negroids

Turks who live in anatolia speak turkic language but they aren't central asians anymore ( at least most of them ) they have different phenotypes than turkic people in turkemistan and uyghurs

I think this however isnt the same as somalians literally do have tons of arab peninsula ancestry and are genetically similar (to my knowledge) to arabs, jews, assyrians etc

 

[To koniec]

Jeets =/= All Curries. JFL.
Also, keep coping with low IQ while they keep outearning. You guys pay Doctors and Engineers like shit. So IIT and Med curries are better off here with significantly low living cost.

Glad that you finally come out as currycel, SAAR

 

[SmhChan]

Because they attack people. Niggers attacks curries and chinks the most

The report also states that 55.8% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by race, ethnicity, or ancestry. By comparison, the next highest categories are religion (19.3%) and sexual orientation (16.3%). Among hate crime offenses motivated by race, ethnicity, and ancestry, 48.4% were composed of anti-Black bias, 15.8% were of anti-White bias, 14.1% were of anti-Hispanic or Latino bias, and 4.3% were of anti-Asian bias.[69]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/737681/number-of-racial-hate-crimes-in-the-us-by-race/

 

[To koniec]

I think this however isnt the same as somalians literally do have tons of arab peninsula ancestry and are genetically similar (to my knowledge) to arabs, jews, assyrians etc

Not really there a concept in physical anthropology which results in certain phenotypes having strong elements of far distant ethnic groups

Like some alpinids ( gorid or west alpinid ) have pseudo mongoloid features ( think of himmler who had asiatic features )
Annamids in Vietnam show sometimes some pseudo caucasoid features along with east etiophids ( stereotypical somali phenotype )

 

[anandkonda]

The report also states that 55.8% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by race, ethnicity, or ancestry. By comparison, the next highest categories are religion (19.3%) and sexual orientation (16.3%). Among hate crime offenses motivated by race, ethnicity, and ancestry, 48.4% were composed of anti-Black bias, 15.8% were of anti-White bias, 14.1% were of anti-Hispanic or Latino bias, and 4.3% were of anti-Asian bias.[69]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/737681/number-of-racial-hate-crimes-in-the-us-by-race/

What does that mean?

Look at which race attacks curries and chinks the the most in US. It's not whites

 

[SmhChan]

Glad that you finally come out as currycel, SAAR

Since I joined.
Obviously, a slow-as-snail brain, drunk on JBW-cope kool-aid, like yours would struggle to figure that out, unlike normal users here.

 

[SmhChan]

What does that mean?

Look at which race attacks curries and chinks the the most in US. It's not whites

Blacks commit most crimes and it's mostly against other blacks and whites. Unless you have very explicit stats...

 

[anandkonda]

Blacks commit most crimes and it's mostly against other blacks and whites. Unless you have very explicit stats...

No but which races attacks curries and chinks the most? You didn't answer

Since I joined.
Obviously, a slow-as-snail brain, drunk on JBW-cope kool-aid, like yours would struggle to figure that out, unlike normal users here.

You are unnecessary picking up a fight with him. @To koniec is a good user

 

[To koniec]

drunk on JBW-cope kool-aid

I know that you are some hindutva patriotic JEET who drinks urinals and east literal shit cakes but i'm not JBW apologist

 

[To koniec]

You are unnecessary picking up a fight with him. @To koniec is a good user

 

[To koniec]

Love how this thread derailed form original discussion

I can say lot about curries but you guys are entertaining as hell sometimes

 

[SmhChan]

No but which races attacks curries and chinks the most? You didn't answer

You brought it up and didn't provide any backing study. Then you order me like a corpo cunt-faced boss to do YOUR research.

Unless you have something that explicitly backs your statement, we can only rely on studies and data that imply the reality of racial crimes.

 

[tandoorichickencel]

Ethopians aren't even real negros. They have significant Semitic DNA.

And are ethopians Jews as successful as Ashkenazi Jews?

Ethiopians were spawned by Israelites who race mixed with sheboons

The Queen of Sheba is a sheboon empress who race mixed with King David of the Bible and spawned the Ethiopian half Jew half nigger race hence why they look curry

 

[anandkonda]

You brought it up and didn't provide any backing study. Then you order me like a corpo cunt-faced boss to do YOUR research.

Unless you have something that explicitly backs your statement, we can only rely on studies and data that imply the reality of racial crimes.

Look

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Black on Asian Crime Statistics

In 2018, there were 182,230 reports of Asian victims. Of these, the offender was white 24% of the time and Black...

www.financegeek.org

Asians in the US are more likely to be attacked by a Black than a White, despite the population differences.

 

[SmhChan]

Look

Alright! I get it. Misunderstanding. Since it was about Blacks, I figured you meant Blacks target chinks and curries more than (they do) other races. I mean it wasn't a thread focusing on chinks and curries.
Obviously, yeah, chinks and curries are targeted by blacks more than other races.

 

[SmhChan]

You are unnecessary picking up a fight with him. @

@To koniec is a good user

IDGAF. Most curries are limp-dick self-haters here and curry-hate here is fucking unbearable.

 

[SmhChan]

I know that you are some hindutva patriotic JEET who drinks urinals and east literal shit cakes but i'm not JBW apologist

Unfortunately, I'm a low-born curry who is not obligated to such retardations.
But since Anand vouched, I apologize for my caustic remarks.

 

[Based NaziCel]

Niggers are the way they are because of genetics. If that isn't the case please tell me ONE place where they perform on par with whites and other races?

This, slavs mogg

 

[anandkonda]

IDGAF. Most curries are limp-dick self-haters here and curry-hate here is fucking unbearable.

Idk how you can be a curry and NOT self-hate to some degree

 

[anandkonda]

slavs mogg