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The myth of Non-European Aryans

PillarofReality

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These people, whether in India or anywhere else in that wretched place called the ‘Third World’ are pitiful imitators. They cling to a few scattered traces of genes like a drowning man clutching at straws, believing it gives them the right to adorn themselves with the name ‘Aryan.’ Being Aryan is not the result of some weakling’s DNA test. It is a matter of blood, spirit and destiny! It is the embodiment of the creative force of the Nordic race, which brought culture, honor, and civilization to this earth. These Indians, even if they babble about some ‘upper caste,’ are the prime example of racial decay. Millennia ago, an Aryan impulse may have touched their land, but what remains of it? Nothing. They are the product of centuries of racial mingling with dark, foreign peoples. A lighter skin tone here and there changes nothing...their blood is impure. They are a warning, not an example. Their attempt to call themselves Aryans is an insult and a desecration. And those from Latin America are even more grotesque. A disgusting hodgepodge of everything inferior.

Yes, they are impure. They are the exact opposite of everything NS stand for. They are proof of what happens when a people does not keep its race pure. The Aryan is the European man in his highest form. Everything else is a lie and degeneration.
 
Shut the fuck up already
 
@wereq.feelsdevil @Hoodpreet
 
@Devoteecel on suicide watch
 
Aryan is exclusively for the European people
 
inceldom discussed
 
Based. Latin america is closer to africa that to europe both geographically and racially.
 
black people are the real aryans and such
 
@currycell900 @The Reaver
 
@ALifeWastedOnRot see this pajeets you are a Shitskin jeets
 
I am a khatri saar i have high steppe dna. My ancestors fucked greek whores when alexander came to india saar :feels: :feels:
Saar I m steppe saar, saar I m Nordic aryan, saar, European originate from Indiaaa saar, we are same as European saaaar
 
Shut the fuck up already
How about you shut the fuck up, jew worshipping kike praising bitch.
This place is infested with too many who still praise normie npc politicians thinking theyll make a difference and solve your inceldom, and people who bow down to kikes
 
How about you shut the fuck up, jew worshipping kike praising bitch.
This place is infested with too many who still praise normie npc politicians thinking theyll make a difference and solve your inceldom, and people who bow down to kikes
probably another jeet larper
 
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How about you shut the fuck up, jew worshipping kike praising bitch.
This place is infested with too many who still praise normie npc politicians thinking theyll make a difference and solve your inceldom, and people who bow down to kikes
Have you even read the OP’s posts? It’s always "muh Nordics" this, "muh Nordics" that. He has this creepy obsession with that group and flat-out refuses to consider Southern Italians or Greeks as White. He’s the one with the divisive (((agenda))), not me. And when he’s not busy worshipping that specific group, he’s just posting water. All of this user's posts are distorting what NS means

Hey is a gaytino subhuman mutt. See his location
There are some whites unfortunate enough to be born in LATAM
 
I buy fruits from a tajik that is taller and whiter an me (i'm slavic). He could also be a pamir
 
Have you even read the OP’s posts? It’s always "muh Nordics" this, "muh Nordics" that. He has this creepy obsession with that group and flat-out refuses to consider Southern Italians or Greeks as White. He’s the one with the divisive (((agenda))), not me. And when he’s not busy worshipping that specific group, he’s just posting water. All of this user's posts are distorting what NS means


There are some whites unfortunate enough to be born in LATAM
Keep crying, Jew worshipper.
 
Have you even read the OP’s posts? It’s always "muh Nordics" this, "muh Nordics" that. He has this creepy obsession with that group and flat-out refuses to consider Southern Italians or Greeks as White. He’s the one with the divisive (((agenda))), not me. And when he’s not busy worshipping that specific group, he’s just posting water. All of this user's posts are distorting what NS means


There are some whites unfortunate enough to be born in LATAM
I'm mostly north italian pheno wise and my skin is pretty fair, I never understood why people think southern europeans aren't white. Following that logic slavs and even finnish people aren't white since they have east asian admixture. We also have caucasoid skulls.
 
I'm mostly north italian pheno wise and my skin is pretty fair, I never understood why people think southern europeans aren't white. Following that logic slavs and even finnish people aren't white since they have east asian admixture. We also have caucasoid skulls.
It was an old Anglo-American historical bias that led people to believe that they are "less white" in first. OP is just parroting outdated views from early 20th-century writers and doesn't know what he is talking about
 
It was an old Anglo-American historical bias that led people to believe that they are "less white" in first. OP is just parroting outdated views from early 20th-century writers and doesn't know what he is talking about
It had to do with religion as well iirc
 
I can understand OP tho but there are still pure blooded europeans in latin america, they're just a minority in most countries
 
Most chileans are white though.
The country's median is about 45%-60% Indigenous and 30%-50% European, according to the studies I’ve read. Not white by my metrics, more mestizo, but since I was born to two European-born parents, I’m white

Southern Chile has a significant population of German, Swiss, and Austrian immigrants. Many of whom are direct descendants of those original settlers
 
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The country's median is about 45%-60% Indigenous and 30%-50% European, according to the studies I’ve read. Not white by my metrics, more mestizo, but since I was born to two European-born parents, I’m white
Yes. Still not as white as Argentina or Uruguay.
 
I'm mostly north italian pheno wise and my skin is pretty fair, I never understood why people think southern europeans aren't white. Following that logic slavs and even finnish people aren't white since they have east asian admixture. We also have caucasoid skulls.
The important question is whether he has Aryan or related blood. Aryans are considered to be the non-jewish descendants of European peoples – including the Nordic, Mediterranean, Alpine, Dinaric and East Baltic races. An Italian who is free from non-European blood is of course a blood relative and therefore an Aryan.

But there is definitely a racial gap between Northern and Southern Italy.
The people in Northern Italy have strong Germanic and Celtic influences. That is why many of them feel no connection to the people of the South. The North is, in terms of blood, part of the core European area. While the South is the result of centuries of mixing. The constant inflow of foreign blood from the Middle East and North Africa has led to racial decline there. That's why I consider south Italians as non white
 
The important question is whether he has Aryan or related blood. Aryans are considered to be the non-jewish descendants of European peoples – including the Nordic, Mediterranean, Alpine, Dinaric and East Baltic races. An Italian who is free from non-European blood is of course a blood relative and therefore an Aryan.

There is a racial gap between Northern and Southern Italy.
The people in Northern Italy have strong Germanic and Celtic influences. That is why many of them feel no connection to the people of the South. The North is, in terms of blood, part of the core European area. While the South is the result of centuries of mixing. The constant inflow of foreign blood from the Middle East and North Africa has led to racial decline there. That's why I consider south Italians as non white
It makes sense now that you say it pal. I sadly have east asian blood so my north italian blood is fucked up now.
 
I think the "subhuman" races should unite and kill off these "pure" and "superior" peoples as a punishment for having created them in the first place.
 
Have you even read the OP’s posts? It’s always "muh Nordics" this, "muh Nordics" that. He has this creepy obsession with that group and flat-out refuses to consider Southern Italians or Greeks as White. He’s the one with the divisive (((agenda))), not me. And when he’s not busy worshipping that specific group, he’s just posting water. All of this user's posts are distorting what NS means


There are some whites unfortunate enough to be born in LATAM
Most Greeks and Southern Italians ARE, as a matter of fact, not "white". Greek and Italian identities aren't defined by skin colour in the first place, but most Greeks and (Southern) Italians cannot be classified as "white" by any metric.

What do you even mean by "white"? It's an ill-defined term. If one means "European" then WHICH "European"? There are differences between Southern and Northern European admixture. If you mean "light skin", then many West Asians have light skin and it's not a matter of "muh convergent evolution" because they're the same specific genes that are shared with "Europeans". "White" is an ill-defined social construct that was largely developed by Northern Europeans (especially the British and Anglo-Americans)

Delving into the differences between Europeans, the (relative) genetic distance between a Greek and a Lithuanian are substantially larger than the differences between a Greek and a Kurd. So if "whiteness" is determined by the 0.1-0.5% differences between humans, then in many circumstances, the differences between specific Europeans may exceed the differences between specific Europeans and specific non-Europeans.

If for some reason you exclude Turks as "European" then consistency indicates you do so for Southern Italians. As this one quote says in analysis of a study:

"Turkish genomic variation, along with several other Western Asian populations, looks most similar to genomic variation of South European populations such as southern Italians."

It is you "inclusive" white supremacists who are even worse than the "Nordicists". At least the latter doesn't pretend that groups that CLUSTER WITH JEWS are "part of them".

That's an irony. People like you are rotten antisemites and yet you defend the inclusion of groups that are the closest to Jews.
 
Most Greeks and Southern Italians ARE, as a matter of fact, not "white". Greek and Italian identities aren't defined by skin colour in the first place, but most Greeks and (Southern) Italians cannot be classified as "white" by any metric.

What do you even mean by "white"? It's an ill-defined term. If one means "European" then WHICH "European"? There are differences between Southern and Northern European admixture. If you mean "light skin", then many West Asians have light skin and it's not a matter of "muh convergent evolution" because they're the same specific genes that are shared with "Europeans". "White" is an ill-defined social construct that was largely developed by Northern Europeans (especially the British and Anglo-Americans)
"White" is the composite result of 3 main ancestral groups (Western Hunter-Gatherers, Anatolian famers, and Steppe Pastoralists). You can think of modern Europeans as having been "completed" when Steppe Pastoralists mixed with the EEF.

Here's a paper that's more detailed on what makes all Europeans genetically distinct: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4170574/.

Basically, white = European. If you plot populations on a PCA, Euros form a distinct cluster, and Greeks/South Italians do fall in the cline. A bit more EEF and CHG/Natufian, a bit less Steppe than north Euros, but still fully within the European genetic continuum. Here's a PCA from the study I mentoned:
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If you mean "light skin", then many West Asians have light skin and it's not a matter of "muh convergent evolution" because they're the same specific genes that are shared with "Europeans".
Sharing a few pigmentation alleles doesn’t make one European in any way. You could give a Saudi the skin tone of a Swede and they’d still cluster far outside the European cline on a PCA as seen above.

"White" is an ill-defined social construct that was largely developed by Northern Europeans (especially the British and Anglo-Americans)
Europeans as a distinct group existed since forever. "White" as a modern identity got shaped politically by them but it wasn't made up out of nowhere.

Delving into the differences between Europeans, the (relative) genetic distance between a Greek and a Lithuanian are substantially larger than the differences between a Greek and a Kurd. So if "whiteness" is determined by the 0.1-0.5% differences between humans, then in many circumstances, the differences between specific Europeans may exceed the differences between specific Europeans and specific non-Europeans.
"This blue is closer to purple, but that blue is closer to green, therefore the color blue isn't real."

A pointless play with words ignoring obvious groupings. Boring.
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If for some reason you exclude Turks as "European" then consistency indicates you do so for Southern Italians. As this one quote says in analysis of a study:

"Turkish genomic variation, along with several other Western Asian populations, looks most similar to genomic variation of South European populations such as southern Italians."
It’s only West Anatolians who are close to passing. Even then, I've read studies that claimed that most of Turkey excluding its western coastal areas are closer to eastern and western neighboring populations.

Mind citing the study, also?

It is you "inclusive" white supremacists who are even worse than the "Nordicists". At least the latter doesn't pretend that groups that CLUSTER WITH JEWS are "part of them".
PCAs can be fooled by recent admixture. A half white, half East Asian person would cluster with Central Asian ethnic groups, but the person isn’t Central Asian.

The same logic applies to Ashkenazim, a recently admixed group who mainly forming during the late Roman/early Byzantine periods. So, Ashkenazi Jews have different origins and structure to Southern Europeans who have an older European pedigree. They'd plot close to Levantines if it wasn't for Roman and Byzantine-era admixture.

Nationalism ≠ supremacism either.

That's an irony. People like you are rotten antisemites and yet you defend the inclusion of groups that are the closest to Jews.
"Blah blah blah, I’m a retarded libshit who doesn’t have a single clue of what I’m talking about."
 
"White" is the composite result of 3 main ancestral groups (Western Hunter-Gatherers, Anatolian famers, and Steppe Pastoralists). You can think of modern Europeans as having been "completed" when Steppe Pastoralists mixed with the EEF.

Here's a paper that's more detailed on what makes all Europeans genetically distinct: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4170574/.

Basically, white = European. If you plot populations on a PCA, Euros form a distinct cluster, and Greeks/South Italians do fall in the cline. A bit more EEF and CHG/Natufian, a bit less Steppe than north Euros, but still fully within the European genetic continuum. Here's a PCA from the study I mentoned:
nihms613260f1b.jpg



Sharing a few pigmentation alleles doesn’t make one European in any way. You could give a Saudi the skin tone of a Swede and they’d still cluster far outside the European cline on a PCA as seen above.


Europeans as a distinct group existed since forever. "White" as a modern identity got shaped politically by them but it wasn't made up out of nowhere.


"This blue is closer to purple, but that blue is closer to green, therefore the color blue isn't real."

A pointless play with words ignoring obvious groupings. Boring.
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It’s only West Anatolians who are close to passing. Even then, I've read studies that claimed that most of Turkey excluding its western coastal areas are closer to eastern and western neighboring populations.

Mind citing the study, also?


PCAs can be fooled by recent admixture. A half white, half East Asian person would cluster with Central Asian ethnic groups, but the person isn’t Central Asian.

The same logic applies to Ashkenazim, a recently admixed group who mainly forming during the late Roman/early Byzantine periods. So, Ashkenazi Jews have different origins and structure to Southern Europeans who have an older European pedigree. They'd plot close to Levantines if it wasn't for Roman and Byzantine-era admixture.

Nationalism ≠ supremacism either.


"Blah blah blah, I’m a retarded libshit who doesn’t have a single clue of what I’m talking about."

1. That study clearly shows that Southern Italians cluster with Ashkenazi Jews. It does not list the PROPORTIONS (because sharing ancestries does not mean sharing amounts) of ancestral components for Southern Italians generally, but it does for Sicilians. Sicilians have 0% WHG and 90.3% EEF farmer. Ashkenazi Jews have 93.1%. Both have 9.7% and 6.9% ANE respectively. Greeks in this study have 79.2% EEF, 5.8% WHG and 15.1 ANE. A Lithuanian has 46.4% WHG, 36.4% EEF and 17.2% ANE. So yes, if you do basic mathematics, this makes Greeks and especially Southern Italians closer to Jews and various Middle Easterners than they are to Lithuanians, Balts or various Northern Europeans.

You clearly did NOT read the study. That study said:



"Two sets of European populations are poor fits for the model. Sicilians, Maltese, and Ashkenazi Jews have EEF estimates of >100% consistent with their having more Near Eastern ancestry than can be explained via EEF admixture (SI17). They also cannot be jointly fit with other Europeans (SI14), and they fall in the gap between European and Near Easterners."

You clearly need to learn to read.

You're so ideological that you'll call Ashkenazim "admixed" and ignore Southern Italians who have almost the exact mix. This is special pleading fallacies. If PCA is fooled by Ashkenazim, it has to be fooled by Southern Italians (who aren't meaningfully different from Ashkenazim).

White=/="European". In regards to skin colour, Europeans vary, especially Greeks and Southern Italians and Southern Europeans generally. If "white" means specific genetics, then again, this is vague. We clearly see that admixture PROPORTIONS vary between Europeans. "Europeans" are not just a mix of three ancestral proportions; why are we still using this one 2014 paper and ignoring that other papers exist? It's useful, but more exist and they don't exactly "prove" your point.

Yes, the fact that West Asians and Europeans share specific genetic traits means they are SPECIFICALLY RELATED. The genes for blonde hair and light skin in these groups are the same. The genes for blonde hair in Melanisians is different. The genes for light skin in East Asians is different.

Those same genes don't even come from the arbitrary boundaries of Europe. You mention WHG (which Southern Italians and Greek Islanders completely lack BTW). If that's so important in determining "whiteness" then why were they dark skinned? It is EEF from the MIDDLE EAST that "whitened" Europeans.

Ignore the evidence that shows the clear links between all ethnic Turks and OTHER (yes Turks are "Europeans") Southern Europeans for your anecdotes. Just equate East Asians to Middle Easterners as if the latter doesn't cluster with Europeans. Any "non-European" is equistidant from "Europeans" amirite? This is ideology, not science.

Also, I'll put your "inclusiveness" to the test.

Are Albanians "white"? Genetically and culturally, they're even closer to Greeks than Turks and all of their country is in Europe. Or are you gonna special plead and take their majority religion into account? If you say what I think you will, your "white=European" fallacy will be exposed for what it is.
 
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