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In hindsight, 'socialist' administration of a sectarian, backward Yugoslavia seems remarkably efficient

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As someone who lives in what was once Yugoslavia, I always held an irrationally negative view of it since its collapse led to the formation of this unviable, non-sovereign, demographically collapsed statelet in which I am forced to reside.

However, looking back at it in a less emotional way, its collapse was an inevitability after the revolutionary and victorious zeal wore off after a few decades.
Its lifespan is no different to that of other nominally 'socialist' regimes of states divided along sectarian lines, with the collapse occurring after around half a century (as did Assad's Syria or Hussein's Iraq).

Although, compared to those regimes, Yugoslavia achieved far greater results in all areas while being a complete hell-hole to govern given the ethnic and religious grievances.
During WW2, Croatians supported and conducted genocide of the Serb and Bosniak population, Serbs had vast monarchist, reactionary units which collaborated with the Axis against the 'Communists', Albanians formed their own SS unit.
According to the 1948 census, literacy among Albanians in the South was no greater than 20%.
Imagine having to govern these vapid imbeciles while having a fully literate Slovenian population which had an astronomically better economic situation in the same state.

Comparatively in history, I can't think of a more fragmented society in any remotely viable, civilized state.
The fact that the 'socialists' (who couldn't have conducted any socialist policies due to the deeply reactionary, backward nature of the state and thus played into every nationalist prerogative imaginable) managed to keep peace, attain exemplary diplomatic status through a unique array of third world politics with the formation of the Non-aligned movement, get American aid while still receiving tacit Soviet support after Stalin's death and build one of the best economies in the East in a 35 year period is truly a remarkable feat of governance, however degenerate its downfall may have been.
 
Imagine having to govern these vapid imbeciles while having a fully literate Slovenian population which had an astronomically better economic situation in the same state.
Is this one of the reasons why Slovenians and Croats pushed for independence?

They were essentially subsidizing the southern republics.
 
Is this one of the reasons why Slovenians and Croats pushed for independence?

They were essentially subsidizing the southern republics.
Slovenia was in a far better economic position than Croatia, Croatia was ever so marginally better than Serbia and did technically 'subsidize', but not to that meaningful of an extent.
When your people conducted mass genocide of an ethnicity from whose capital they are now governed, it isn't an arrangement they're all too happy with.

A Croatian nationalist rebellion, nominally based on 'subsidization' but in reality largely sectarian, led to the 1974 Constitution, which established a deeply federalist system with the right of each republic to secede.

 
however degenerate its downfall may have been.
I don't know if we can completely blame Yugoslavia for this either.

Sure, the state had inherent weaknesses, but external forces exploited and aggravated them.
 
I don't know if we can completely blame Yugoslavia for this either.

Sure, the state had inherent weaknesses, but external forces exploited and aggravated them.
It couldn't have been saved by any myriad of individual decisions, its inherent structural deficits were vast and easily exploitable,

I believe you can't blame any major historical shortcomings on decision makers, the structural basis defines the long-term success of any entity.
 
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I don't know if we can completely blame Yugoslavia for this either.
By degenerate, I was referring to how primitive and animalistic in nature the events that unfolded were.
 
It couldn't have been saved by any myriad of individual decisions, its inherent structural deficits were vast and easily exploitable,

I believe you can't blame any major historical shortcomings on decision makers, the structural basis defines the long-term success of any entity.
By degenerate, I was referring to how primitive and animalistic in nature the events that unfolded were.
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I don't know if we can completely blame Yugoslavia for this either.

Sure, the state had inherent weaknesses, but external forces exploited and aggravated them.
imo yugoslavia was centered and centralized around one man and one man only.
 
Slovenia was in a far better economic position than Croatia, Croatia was ever so marginally better than Serbia and did technically 'subsidize', but not to that meaningful of an extent.
When your people conducted mass genocide of an ethnicity from whose capital they are now governed, it isn't an arrangement they're all too happy with.

A Croatian nationalist rebellion, nominally based on 'subsidization' but in reality largely sectarian, led to the 1974 Constitution, which established a deeply federalist system with the right of each republic to secede.

The only good thing the USSR did after World War II was to try to make its puppets ethnically homogeneous. Since the communists knew that a homogeneous ethnically state is effective. Ukrainians and Poles in the second Polish republic of 1918-1939 had an outrageous level of hatred for each other. How did the USSR decide? He deported all Poles from the Ukrainian SSR to Poland, and also deported Ukrainians from Poland to the Ukrainian SSR
Also, the Bulgarian communists tried to expel the Turks from Bulgaria, but NATO and the United States imposed sanctions for this. Bulgarian communists called this a revival process. Ceausescu tried to drive the Hungarians out of Transylvania or make it a difficult life for them to leave themselves.
 

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