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Why Poland isn’t right-winger’s paradise, extensive analysis from a Pole

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There is a widespread belief among westerners that Poland is as if Rhodesia, a homogeneous society stuck in 1950s, focused on faith and tradition, I’m going to show you why that isn’t true at all


1. Aristocratic democracy
In historical times, Poland has been the first and the only country in the region to introduce democracy, Polish king never had too much power, rather he was similar to current function of president in parliamentary republics, his main function was diplomacy and war, but domestic laws were usually ruled by parliaments made of aristocratic class, king had no power to defy them, to prevent tribal and personal feuds from deciding new laws aristocracy introduced liberum veto law that allowed one single congressman to stop the session and veto the law, which led to legal paralysis.
It shows Poles are very traditionally connected to soft power and democracy rather than glorious absolute monarchies like all of its neighbors.

2. The land of the free

Poland has always historically promoted itself as land where all people can live and participate, the Jews got special rights, lands etc, Poland took refugees from the Jews expelled from other nations, similar situation with other faiths, because Poland had union with orthodox Latvians, making it a country of religious tolerance and state-faith separation.

3. Matriarchy, “ugly women”

Polish women have always been resilient and described in chronicles as ugly, it is because Poland has always had tremendous military loses for which, to common public men were to blame, and women gained status of wise, peaceful leaders, it is visible in old Polish language where boys is chłopcy (little peasants) and girls are panienki (little ladies, in sense of aristocratic and sovereign title “Pan” - Lord)
Later in times of occupation women were seen as main tool of social order, responsible for motherhood and guiding underground society towards “moral values”

Strong “patriarchal” empires were seen as universal symbol of oppression.

3. Men don’t cry, Poles do.

Polish masculinity in literature and culture have always been structured as martyrdom and sensitivity, the most classic Polish literature portrays people like Kochanowski mourning his dead daughter, the Bug-priest being repentant murderer humiliating himself by becoming a priest, Konrad sacrificing his ambitions and life attempting to murder Tsar for greater good etc.

Polish heroes contain people like Marie Curie that emigrated and stolen works of Becquerel and her husband Peter Curie

4. Fertility rates

Poland functions as matriarchy where woman has absolute rule over the house because she gives children, fertility rates in Poland are very los and close to 1 but it’s not the same situation as in the west

In the west we can see Mormons or Southern Belt that have 5 kids and northern families that have 0 kids and an abortion.

In Poland it’s not like that, here everyone just has one kid, there is huge pressure for women to have kids as it gives them ultimate power, so they just have less of them as effect of feminism but don’t choose lose the leverage by not having them at all.

5. Bitter hope

Because Poland already traditionally is a matriarchy, modern 4th wave feminism often leads Polish women to embrace paradoxically more Catholic and traditional (as per Polish tradition) life, it is still bad for men but it guards women from the most dangerous ideas by just making them think “oh just as my grandma did” instead of “I fight against oppression”

In legal terms Poland is stuck in 1980s, with most of its law directly inherited from Soviet occupation, it means at least some of the western degeneracy is legally prevented, on other hand it leads to grey-areas where drugs use or abortion are performed in dangerous way.
Current Polish political and constitutional situation prevents any changes in libertarian or right wing direction as Poland is in state of legal paralysis, but social and cultural changes occur rapidly and affect whole society.
 
These kinds of threads are interesting af tbh
 
Very nice effortpost. Are there any true right wing countries left in europe??
 
Very nice effortpost. Are there any true right wing countries left in europe??
It used to be Hungary but not anymore, because Hungarians got Asian cultural customs that are more “patriarchal”


I guess Russia if you consider it Europe is the last one but economically it’s very socialist.

Also Republika Srpska part of Bosnia is quite conservative
 
People like to pretend Poland is super traditionalist and religious, yet I don't believe this is completely true (correct me if I'm wrong OP). Since the dominant religion in Poland is Catholicism, children usually get baptized at birth so they would be counted as Catholics even if they don't hold any religious views once they grow up. Furthermore I remember reading a study saying how like 90% of older Poles are Catholic, yet that number pretty much collapsed as only like 45% of Gen Z Poles are Catholic, so it seems the country is secularizing rather quickly. Despite this, Poland is still way more religious than countries such as Estonia or the Netherlands.
 
People like to pretend Poland is super traditionalist and religious, yet I don't believe this is completely true (correct me if I'm wrong OP). Since the dominant religion in Poland is Catholicism, children usually get baptized at birth so they would be counted as Catholics even if they don't hold any religious views once they grow up. Furthermore I remember reading a study saying how like 90% of older Poles are Catholic, yet that number pretty much collapsed as only like 45% of Gen Z Poles are Catholic, so it seems the country is secularizing rather quickly. Despite this, Poland is still way more religious than countries such as Estonia or the Netherlands.
Poland is culturally Catholic but not when it comes to actual beliefs, it’s more similar to folk Catholicism like Santa muerte in Mexico.


Most of the poles think Mary is something like God’s consort etc, I heard one priest call her wisdom (Sophia) which is gnostic heresy
 
People like to pretend Poland is super traditionalist and religious, yet I don't believe this is completely true (correct me if I'm wrong OP). Since the dominant religion in Poland is Catholicism, children usually get baptized at birth so they would be counted as Catholics even if they don't hold any religious views once they grow up. Furthermore I remember reading a study saying how like 90% of older Poles are Catholic, yet that number pretty much collapsed as only like 45% of Gen Z Poles are Catholic, so it seems the country is secularizing rather quickly. Despite this, Poland is still way more religious than countries such as Estonia or the Netherlands.
It is religious but not traditional, not in the western sense


It never had any Protestant way of life where it is a virtue to be head of the family and all of that.

It is traditional but its tradition is relatively woke and harmonizes well with modern Wokeism
 
People like to pretend Poland is super traditionalist and religious, yet I don't believe this is completely true (correct me if I'm wrong OP). Since the dominant religion in Poland is Catholicism, children usually get baptized at birth so they would be counted as Catholics even if they don't hold any religious views once they grow up. Furthermore I remember reading a study saying how like 90% of older Poles are Catholic, yet that number pretty much collapsed as only like 45% of Gen Z Poles are Catholic, so it seems the country is secularizing rather quickly. Despite this, Poland is still way more religious than countries such as Estonia or the Netherlands.
It’s like you can say Turkey and Afghanistan both are Muslim


But it’s Islam is different


Same with Catholicism in Poland
 
It is religious but not traditional, not in the western sense


It never had any Protestant way of life where it is a virtue to be head of the family and all of that.

It is traditional but its tradition is relatively woke and harmonizes well with modern Wokeism
Very interesting

I also find it fascinating how so many right wingers nowadays idolize Poland as like this Heaven on Earth and the final bastion of White people and shit like that, meanwhile those exact same people would be mocking the "stupid Polacks" 20 years ago and calling Poland a post communist shithole, fucking wild. And this may not even be the case soon, with many Niggers using university mill visas to move to Poland with their entire families, like what is currently happening in Lublin
 
Very interesting

I also find it fascinating how so many right wingers nowadays idolize Poland as like this Heaven on Earth and the final bastion of White people and shit like that, meanwhile those exact same people would be mocking the "stupid Polacks" 20 years ago and calling Poland a post communist shithole, fucking wild. And this may not even be the case soon, with many Niggers using university mill visas to move to Poland with their entire families, like what is currently happening in Lublin
They are right that Poland is communist shithole
 
How would you compare Poland culturally and mentally to Ukraine?
 
How would you compare Poland culturally and mentally to Ukraine?
very similar, especially to western Ukraine, basically the same mentality and culture but Poles tend to have more of western phlegmatism while Ukrainians tend to have more of eastern "fire" in their soul
 
Very interesting

I also find it fascinating how so many right wingers nowadays idolize Poland as like this Heaven on Earth and the final bastion of White people and shit like that, meanwhile those exact same people would be mocking the "stupid Polacks" 20 years ago and calling Poland a post communist shithole, fucking wild. And this may not even be the case soon, with many Niggers using university mill visas to move to Poland with their entire families, like what is currently happening in Lublin
I think there is some kind of western self-reflection that assumes Poland somehow resisted all of the migration and lgbt and diversity which is not true, you don't hear about that a lot but incidents of course happen, like with Uber driver immigrant causing deliberate accident etc, there is maybe no ghettoization of immigrants but it also has bad sides to it, as it doesn't preserve original homogenous society structure (like in UK where despite diversity generally white native british live how they always have been since centuries)
 
How is the gender relation like in Poland? I am assuming it is better than Spain or south korea atleast.
 
How is the gender relation like in Poland? I am assuming it is better than Spain or south korea atleast.
Recently there are rising conflicts.

But mostly it looks like that:

A couple is in grocery store and wife holds the bag with groceries, the cashier lady came to them and said “it should be husband to carry these heavy groceries not you”
 
poles are thiefing lying jews, the End.
 
World is cooked
 
Not quite, lots of faggots in here, but the orthodox keep it 💯
I mean it’s more about what the state lets you, fags and all of that is everywhere and kind of I’d just let them exist, the problem is most of the world forces you to be feminist or fag and doesn’t allow you to be anything else, and I think Israel is pretty much resistant to that. Poland is not
 
I mean it’s more about what the state lets you, fags and all of that is everywhere and kind of I’d just let them exist, the problem is most of the world forces you to be feminist or fag and doesn’t allow you to be anything else, and I think Israel is pretty much resistant to that. Poland is not
Think we gotta live for ourselves, I'm happy in solitude, thank God, I'm destroying this urge to seek a relationship, just living my life and trying to make ends meet, im 25 now, even if I were to ascend I'd have to settle for an used up whore, with a body count in double digits, it's truly over for me, but I'm at peace with this fact, think this is the last stage of the blackpill, acceptance, and indifference to humankind as a whole, ofc I still hold people with the same ideology in high regard, but normies, I just don't care about them at all
 
Think we gotta live for ourselves, I'm happy in solitude, thank God, I'm destroying this urge to seek a relationship, just living my life and trying to make ends meet, im 25 now, even if I were to ascend I'd have to settle for an used up whore, with a body count in double digits, it's truly over for me, but I'm at peace with this fact, think this is the last stage of the blackpill, acceptance, and indifference to humankind as a whole, ofc I still hold people with the same ideology in high regard, but normies, I just don't care about them at all
Yeah basically what comes next os whitepill, which is pursue of further happiness with full acceptance of eternal sexlessness, I’m close to that too, not really trying the dating apps and all as it kinda makes no sense.


Also how is it with arranged marriages there for the Jews? Maybe you got a chance to have one to ascend?
 
Yeah basically what comes next os whitepill, which is pursue of further happiness with full acceptance of eternal sexlessness, I’m close to that too, not really trying the dating apps and all as it kinda makes no sense.


Also how is it with arranged marriages there for the Jews? Maybe you got a chance to have one to ascend?
That's an option, but my situation is dire, I'm fat and my face is deformed, don't have money to offer either
 
That's an option, but my situation is dire, I'm fat and my face is deformed, don't have money to offer either
A true truecel :cryfeels:
 
To be fair it's still less fucked than the west and if you want a comparatively normal white nation to live in eastwrn Europe is the only option even if they're in decline too and have serious social problems.
 
I don't understand how people can believe a country which has been ruled by godless communists before and suffered from decades of Westernization with a fertility rate of 1.1 could be based n trad sheeit
 
To be fair it's still less fucked than the west and if you want a comparatively normal white nation to live in eastwrn Europe is the only option even if they're in decline too and have serious social problems.
Well it doesn’t have western individualism and freedom culturally tho
 
I don't understand how people can believe a country which has been ruled by godless communists before and suffered from decades of Westernization with a fertility rate of 1.1 could be based n trad sheeit
💯💯💯
 
To be fair it's still less fucked than the west and if you want a comparatively normal white nation to live in eastwrn Europe is the only option even if they're in decline too and have serious social problems.
Southern US states may be best for now but it may change
 
Well it doesn’t have western individualism and freedom culturally tho
The western idea of individualism and freedom if you're not the USA at least is not entirely true start spouting anything that's not nihilistic, hedonistic, involves accountability or and is not socially destructive and you basically are public enemy #1 the UK jailed more people for speech than China and Belarus combined.
 
Southern US states may be best for now but it may change
Id disagree I'd say Montana, Idaho or North Dakota South has serious flaws like if it's south west it's half spics if it's south east it's full of niggers and the pop are objectively the most obese on earth and the foids are a particularly horrible breed I know all women are awful everywhere but not equally so and if you want fat loud rude and entitled low class aggressive women who are out for blood against non Chad deal with a landwhale Anglo foid these foids will genuinely go out of their way to make the lives of low value males difficult because Chad rejected them. When I was in Canada I have had landwhales try to get guys to jump me on 5 occasions and I didn't even speak to most of them prior or if I did it was never initate convo only respond with as few words as possible stay largely quiet in their pressence find an excuse to leave.
 
Id disagree I'd say Montana, Idaho or North Dakota South has serious flaws like if it's south west it's half spics if it's south east it's full of niggers and the pop are objectively the most obese on earth and the foids are a particularly horrible breed I know all women are awful everywhere but not equally so and if you want fat loud rude and entitled low class aggressive women who are out for blood against non Chad deal with a landwhale Anglo foid these foids will genuinely go out of their way to make the lives of low value males difficult because Chad rejected them. When I was in Canada I have had landwhales try to get guys to jump me on 5 occasions and I didn't even speak to most of them prior or if I did it was never initate convo only respond with as few words as possible stay largely quiet in their pressence find an excuse to leave.
Well, Canada and the south is two different things tho
 
The western idea of individualism and freedom if you're not the USA at least is not entirely true start spouting anything that's not nihilistic, hedonistic, involves accountability or and is not socially destructive and you basically are public enemy #1 the UK jailed more people for speech than China and Belarus combined.
Because UK and EU are commie and not western, western means American
 
In Poland it’s not like that, here everyone just has one kid, there is huge pressure for women to have kids as it gives them ultimate power, so they just have less of them as effect of feminism but don’t choose lose the leverage by not having them at
Women dont care about family or children, and would rather get passed around by Chads. Im shocked
 
Women dont care about family or children, and would rather get passed around by Chads. Im shocked
It just means they marry an ugly husband and then divorce him, take the child away, live off child support and claim sole moral and parental authority because mother rules the family in Poland. How lovely fr
 
I don't know why modern "National Socialists" Aka Neo-Nazis think Poland is their ideal state, Poland is literally slavic it's not germanic, and National Socialism is a nordicist ideology and regards slavs as subhumans, add how Polish people are Catholics and we know that christianity idolizes jews and that the bible tells us the story of the Israelites which are Semitic and how Jesus is semite, add the existence of other ethnics groups like Jews and and Gypsies

Based on all of that, Poland shouldn't be considered the ideal white ethno-state that Neo-Nazis fantasize about
 
I don't know why modern "National Socialists" Aka Neo-Nazis think Poland is their ideal state, Poland is literally slavic it's not germanic, and National Socialism is a nordicist ideology and regards slavs as subhumans, add how Polish people are Catholics and we know that christianity idolizes jews and that the bible tells us the story of the Israelites which are Semitic and how Jesus is semite, add the existence of other ethnics groups like Jews and and Gypsies

Based on all of that, Poland shouldn't be considered the ideal white ethno-state that Neo-Nazis fantasize about
Well, it’s not entirely like that, in specific case of Germany of course it was about German race, but in Italy it was about Italian one (Catholic as well), in Japan it was about Japanese race, in Hungary about Hungarian race etc


Rather common pattern in nazism is pride of one’s own nation and race which westerners assume Poles have, because it’s a fact many people wave flags in Poland and we have patriotic march once a year where flags are being waved.


But you are correct as for the rest, it is huge western misconception about Poland, Poland is simply culturally different and waving Polish flag has different value signaling than waving British or German flag, I think traditionally Poland is more similar to France post French revolution than it is to Germany or USA.
 
These kinds of threads are interesting af tbh
Extremely
Why no responses then :cryfeels:
Youre ruining peoples copes
Very nice effortpost. Are there any true right wing countries left in europe??
Nope everywhere is jew controlled
Recently there are rising conflicts.

But mostly it looks like that:

A couple is in grocery store and wife holds the bag with groceries, the cashier lady came to them and said “it should be husband to carry these heavy groceries not you”
Thats how it starts, nip that shit in the bud before it escalates
poles are thiefing lying jews, the End.
based historycels
To be fair it's still less fucked than the west and if you want a comparatively normal white nation to live in eastwrn Europe is the only option even if they're in decline too and have serious social problems.
nah i knew a few escorts from poland they told me its poor as shit not safe at night compared to Australia and they people are hedonistic without the capital for it.
I don't understand how people can believe a country which has been ruled by godless communists before and suffered from decades of Westernization with a fertility rate of 1.1 could be based n trad sheeit
the people are retarded
Based on all of that, Poland shouldn't be considered the ideal white ethno-state that Neo-Nazis fantasize about
They started ww2 on behest of their jewish population and the shabbos goy Roosevelt
 
Very interesting

I also find it fascinating how so many right wingers nowadays idolize Poland as like this Heaven on Earth and the final bastion of White people and shit like that, meanwhile those exact same people would be mocking the "stupid Polacks" 20 years ago and calling Poland a post communist shithole, fucking wild. And this may not even be the case soon, with many Niggers using university mill visas to move to Poland with their entire families, like what is currently happening in Lublin
Just fucking kill them. Every first gen should be killed, force the rest to learn english and join me in new LibERia (everything between north and south africa).
 
It used to be Hungary but not anymore, because Hungarians got Asian cultural customs that are more “patriarchal”


I guess Russia if you consider it Europe is the last one but economically it’s very socialist.

Also Republika Srpska part of Bosnia is quite conservative
I'd argue that Hungary is and was always worse than Poland ever since the Soviet takeover.
 
It’s better for dating
If your a chad sure, but from what i saw even the most hideous foid gets cold approached in an average driveway lol and foids are the most protected species there the law is going to side with them no matter what the current and former pm is actively pushing for a system that benefits foids that birth a child with no taxation and government support for foids that gave birth to 3 or more children
 
If your a chad sure, but from what i saw even the most hideous foid gets cold approached in an average driveway lol and foids are the most protected species there the law is going to side with them no matter what the current and former pm is actively pushing for a system that benefits foids that birth a child with no taxation and government support for foids that gave birth to 3 or more children
So anti-feminism. Women hate children. Good.
 
If your a chad sure, but from what i saw even the most hideous foid gets cold approached in an average driveway lol and foids are the most protected species there the law is going to side with them no matter what the current and former pm is actively pushing for a system that benefits foids that birth a child with no taxation and government support for foids that gave birth to 3 or more children
So anti-feminism. Women hate children.
If your a chad sure, but from what i saw even the most hideous foid gets cold approached in an average driveway lol and foids are the most protected species there the law is going to side with them no matter what the current and former pm is actively pushing for a system that benefits foids that birth a child with no taxation and government support for foids that gave birth to 3 or more children
Hungary and Czechia are two best geomaxx destinations in EU
 

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