I also don't understand how I am disincentivizing anyone to strive for happiness? How is me saying you can't be a part of the social outcast club if you aren't a social outcast anymore creating a culture that prohibits people from self growth?
You care about who get's to be in but others don't get to care about being kicked out? And you aren't advocating for excluding users after they ascend, to quote the title of this thread:
if youre not 100 percent sure its over fuck off
You are applying pressure to people that will only force them to falsify who they are for approval.
Men, not only without any romantic experience but also with no social life to speak of, will find a place like this and make friends, or at least aquaintances, for the first time. They will be surrounded by a culture that looks down on anyone who thinks of themselves as anything other than completly unfuckable. So, they will want to adapt such an identity as well, in order to fit in with their first real ingroup.
Vulnerable men like me 15 years ago will come here and submit to a way of viewing the world and themselves which will only hurt them more in the long run. Patterns of behavior that will encourage them to do nothing but lay down and drown in their misery, amassing more regret each year.
There will be many of these men, especially amongst the autistic / high inhib portion of the user base, who would have had a real chance of sonner or later getting out of this hell if they kept trying. As well as amongst the younger members who, in their inexperience and youthful retardation, will be prone to misjudge the details of their own situation. Because, in order to be seen as likeable and gain status within the only social group they weren't by default completly excluded from, it was required of them to be absolutely hopeless.
It should be obvious that anyone ecouraging such behavior is in direct opposition to anyone who cares to maximize happyness and minimize suffering amongst the lowest stratum of men.
Those users, who I think could have a shot out there, I want to encourage to try again, even though this exposes them to risks of rejection and humiliation once more. I want to talk some courage into them when they're hesitating and help them deal with the disappointment and doubts when they encounter their first setbacks.
If I saw someone for whom it was truly over, I would want to help him find ways to cope as well as possible. I would want to motivate him to get over his insecurities and fears and give payed sex a try. To overcome his shame and aggressively explore all avenues available, from sextoys to drugs to paying some escort for cuddles, sweet words of affection and the rest of a full GFE experience. I would hope we would be compatible enough that some level of friendship developes. Because I suspect that social bonds are probably one of if not the best cope, period.
It's not like I don't feel envy and hate for those that outshine me. On some level, I want to crack open the head of every single person I see an ascension-thread of. That's why they can't stay, their presence is unbearable. But I still want as many of us as possible to make it there.
I have struggled my entire life with the inability to not care. My basic mode of interaction is cooperation through reciprocal exchange. I like to give in order to be given back. I want others to be happy more than I want them to not be happier than me.
I doubt you will become me in the future. We seem unalike in fundamental ways.
