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Serious If you want something as bad as you wanna breathe, you'll find a way" Socrates. Sometimes i wonder if thats applicable to our situation...

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There's a story where a young plato and an (already) old socrates are walking on a beach together.

Plato is listening carefully to socrates, admiring every word, observing every move.

Then, he finally says something "oh, socrates!! I wish i had your wisdom!"

Then, socrates asks plato to follow him to the sea shore, where their knees are just soaking wet enough.

Then he asks plato to kneel, just a lil bit.

Then he quickly picks his neck and starts drowning him in the ocean.

When he's almost passing out, socrates takes him out of the water.

Plato asks him, naturally: "why did you do that?!!"

"The moment you'll want to seek wisdom as much as you wanted that gasp of fresh air, you'll begin the journey".

All that to say... hear me out on this one... we just... dont want it bad enough?!

A LOT (BUT NOT ALL OFC) cels out here dont wanna:

1. cut corners, through
looksmaxxing+betabuxx Delux (or just the regular type)

2. Say shit like "never pay for something another person got for free" when "beggars cant be choosers" is literally their reality all together (and undeniably so)

3. Dont even try basic shit, like losing weight and lifting some weights

4. Havent tried anything they can/could do to ascend (myself included)

5. Havent tried nichemaxxing through like: starting a band, becoming a fashion guru of sorts, joining a cultural tribe, etc.

And still think its not their fault whatsoever.

Maybe you just dont want it bad enough, bro.

PS: this site has become a lousy pity party of greycels, so i know this post will fly up most people's heads (if they even read it).
 
I have tried but not escortmaxxing
 
There's a story where a young plato and an (already) old socrates are walking on a beach together.

Plato is listening carefully to socrates, admiring every word, observing every move.

Then, he finally says something "oh, socrates!! I wish i had your wisdom!"

Then, socrates asks plato to follow him to the sea shore, where their knees are just soaking wet enough.

Then he asks plato to kneel, just a lil bit.

Then he quickly picks his neck and starts drowning him in the ocean.

When he's almost passing out, socrates takes him out of the water.

Plato asks him, naturally: "why did you do that?!!"

"The moment you'll want to seek wisdom as much as you wanted that gasp of fresh air, you'll begin the journey".

All that to say... hear me out on this one... we just... dont want it bad enough?!

A LOT (BUT NOT ALL OFC) cels out here dont wanna:

1. cut corners, through
looksmaxxing+betabuxx Delux (or just the regular type)

2. Say shit like "never pay for something another person got for free" when "beggars cant be choosers" is literally their reality all together (and undeniably so)

3. Dont even try basic shit, like losing weight and lifting some weights

4. Havent tried anything they can/could do to ascend (myself included)

5. Havent tried nichemaxxing through like: starting a band, becoming a fashion guru of sorts, joining a cultural tribe, etc.

And still think its not their fault whatsoever.

Maybe you just dont want it bad enough, bro.

PS: this site has become a lousy pity party of greycels, so i know this post will fly up most people's heads (if they even read it).
And if you still couldnt breathe you'll just die. So we are kinda dead inside.
 
I agree with this, that's why sugar dating and betabuxxing exists in the first place. Beggers can't be chosers.

but this is kinda contraversial take because , most people actually want genuinely loved for who they are.
not because of money or superficial appearance.

moneymaxxing is one of the easiest way to assend , but it takes too much years of putting effort . and you can't expect guys who have zero to none social circle , to stay mentally sane and grind for that long alone. grinding takes support system and socail validation which most incels can't get for obvious reasons. only few men can do grinding alone with zero to none social system around them.

same goes for any other methods like gymaxxing or looksmaxing. consistent effort can't be put for most of the guys if you have zero social ceiling , unless you're lone grinder and don't need to interact with anyone.
Most incels are not only relationship starved but proper close friendship starved too. Most of us don't even have family or friends who support .

for guys who have some sort of social circle and aren't totally socially starved , it's kinda doable tbh.

normies when giving advice just do that and this , don't think thru our perspective at all.
 
I have tried a lot of redpill copes and stuff, but certainly not everything. The prospect of getting a girlfriend just doesn't motivate me and spur me into action anymore.

It would feel so pathetic to gymmax and careermax and NTmax for years just for some fat bitch on a dating app to order me like a pizza because she just got dumped and can't go a day without validation and attention, and for her to then force me to pay for multiple dates before even giving me the holes that she's offered to other men within an hour of meeting them, and for her to then view me as something completely replaceable that can be whisked away with a swipe if it breaks a single one of the rules that she's never set for other men. We're human, its completely reasonable to want to dip the fuck out of all of this.
 
Ok I want good genetics now what
 

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