If you believe in god it's COPE

[idkwattodowithlife]

I can't prove that god exists (1) as much as cannot prove that god exist (2).

(1): I think questions in science that can't prove god existences; so I'm guessing this shades from science into the realm of philosophy and theology. Science requires you to sometimes take a measured result and taking those measured results may possibly have some "errors" involved and sometimes it could add up leading us to no where. And sometimes the human or naked eye is immeasurable to not know of everything and our bodies as well limits us. However, we have telescopes and spaceships to scope out what lies beyond us, but it still isn't enough... Perhaps, someday if our technology ever becomes advance enough, but I hardly doubt that...

(2): Well anyways, being that there are 5000+ gods in this world that from people of all backgrounds claims to exist, it doesn't tell us much about which and whom religion is right. If one religion were to be correct then that's a probability of 1/5000? Meaning, that all other religions must be false and majority people that doesn't follow that one religion will go to Hell?

Yeah, I just simply don't know anymore... I guess for this case, I'll side with agnosticism.

 

[ItheIthe]

Suffering doesn't disprove God's existence. We suffer because we sin. Also God burning Sodom and Gomorrah was completely justified, in fact we deserve the same fate.

 

[Enclave]

Modern religions were designed to control(and cuck) the lower classes. Everything about them is a fairy tale designed to drug, brainwash, and enslave weak minds who can't take reality. The noble classes would force the lower classes to believe in things like monogamy while they encouraged their own sons to fuck women from the poor classes whether they are married or not and create many illegitimate offspring. If the peasants believe suffering on earth is only a temporary thing and they'll go to heaven if they're "good" then the rich elite benefits from their slave labor.

Believing in religion is completely bluepill.

 

[Fontaine]

Modern religions were designed to control(and cuck) the lower classes.

What you write has some degree of truth, but it is reductive. One could call it the Marxist view of religion. It is not without merit, but it ignores the fact that some rulers across history were true believers who led a chaste and ascetic life and never abused their powers (Louis IX, Louis XIII of France for instance).

Also, the lower classes are controlled and cucked already, by definition. They don't have power. Christianity and canonic law were probably improvements in how the masses were treated, inasmuch as they restrained the worst behaviors and impulses of the ruling class.

Religion is a very complex topic, and many factors come into the success of religions. I would suggest to everyone who actually wants to get smarter about them (if only to become a better spokesman for atheism) to read a lot about history and the evolution of ancient philosophy (Christianity is an intellectual offshoot of Platonism).

For starters, I would recommend the History of Philosophy by Bertrand Russell, who actually was an opponent of religion. He was very learned, however. This book is written in a style fit for the "vulgar", so you will probably understand everything.

I am overall sympathetic to skeptics and atheists, more so than to religious people in fact, but I wish skeptics and atheists stopped making fool of themselves so much. I'm not talking about you, more about things I've previously read, most of them on Reddit. Redditors created the Fedora meme out of sheer intellectual laziness and actually managed to transform atheism into a ridiculous thing, which it never managed to be across history - - in the past atheists were usually considered big threats and persecuted or killed.

 

[Enclave]

some rulers across history were true believers who led a chaste and ascetic life and never abused their powers (Louis IX, Louis XIII of France for instance).

If you want to sell a product you need to make your customers think you believe in it.

 

[Fontaine]

If you want to sell a product you need to make your customers think you believe in it.

By living the same lifestyle as the "cucked" masses? That defeats the purpose.

 

[Enclave]

By living the same lifestyle as the "cucked" masses? That defeats the purpose.

By pretending to live the same lifestyle you preach. Those with power understand that all life is war. And all warfare is deception.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

Those with power understand that all life is war. And all warfare is deception.

Promote this man. 

Also is your username a fallout reference

 

[Enclave]

Promote this man. 

Also is your username a fallout reference

Yeah man I love fallout.

 

[Fontaine]

By pretending to live the same lifestyle you preach.

They did not pretend, they did live this lifestyle. Many documents, records, etc, attest to it. The life of kings was usually closely monitored by the higher clergy or the palace/castle chaplain. When kings fucked mistresses or had a personal harem, it was recorded.

This also doesn't explain figures like Charlemagne, who engaged in battles that made no rational sense just in order to propagate Christianity.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

Yeah man I love fallout.

Enclave should have won (FO3) imo

 

[Fontaine]

I am a big fan of Fallout too

For whom did you fight in New Vegas? I was initially somewhat a fan of the Legion, but ultimately gravitated towards the side of "Jew tech", to use WN linguo. I chose progress over being a Luddite. I ran errands for House and alternatively I would let him win the game or I would be the "wild card".

Caesar's Legion is a very bad deal for subhumans, and only out of self-hatred and nihilism could an incel fight for them. Martin Heidegger's opposition to technology was delusional.

 

[Battlefield3cel]

I am a big fan of Fallout too

For whom did you fight in New Vegas?  I was initially somewhat a fan of the Legion, but ultimately gravitated towards the side of "Jew tech", to use WN linguo. I chose progress over being a Luddite. I ran errands for House and alternatively I would let him win the game or I would be the "wild card".

Caesar's Legion is a very bad deal for subhumans, and only out of self-hatred and nihilism could an incel fight for them. Martin Heidegger's opposition to technology was delusional.

For my first playthrough of New Vegas I sided with Caesar's Legion. Maybe I am full of nihilism, but I enjoy Roman History,  and to see and be able to fight for the Legion was pretty epic to me. Caesar himself was also very well read and probably one of the smarter characters in the game. My second playthrough I helped Mr House.

Have you played 4? I sided with the BoS in that one. If I replay it I'm going to join the Institute.

"Ave, true to Caesar."

 

[shadowsoulz125]

Let's just be honest for a second.
What loving god would make your face so undesirable to women that your seen as a subhuman? All religions are a huge coping mechanisms for those who feel "lost".
Go to any church/synagogue/mosque and you will find some UGLY trucels. They use region to feel part of something greater, because society has cast them out.

 

[Fontaine]

Not yet played the 4, but I will soon once I receive my new GPU.

 

[NekoStance]

religion is a pretty good cope though
atheism is fucking toxic and majority of atheists are complete assholes

No matter how many assholes are atheists, it doesn't make it any less true. Many atheists are assholes because there's no other way to get their point across without demolishing other's beliefs.

Lol they don't demolish shit

just idiot assholes