[Whitepill] If we don't overcome the weaknesses of our species, eventually this cycle will repeat itself in another until there is nothing left

[Deleted member 35239]

If we suppose the human race goes extinct, what happens then? Do you think another species on our planet would eventually become sentient and communicatively effective enough to create a civilization as sophisticated as ours? Given how our conscious awareness is a byproduct of a natural evolutionary process that selected based on reproductive aptitude, and assuming they'd even be capable of accomplishing what we have, they'd realistically have similar problems that we do and struggle with their inborn nature and biology - they might even have it worse. Eventually our sun will overtake the planets in our solar system and extinguish, reducing anything resembling life into space debris in 5.5 billion years. Bottom line: sentient life is necessary for the continuation of life beyond eons.

Do we put faith in a potential future civilization that may or may not exist in the future to rectify themselves and the world? We have no way of knowing, with our limited knowledge of the universe, whether a sentient species can exist again AND have the chance of overcoming it that exceeds our own. For all we know, whatever the universe is constructed of has an expiration date, and requires a sentient existence with sufficient technological prowess to alter it before everything becomes void forever.

There are beautiful things in this world worth keeping even amongst utter depravity. And if not for the beauty currently seen, for the true beauty yet unseen that could exist, only if we overcame the need to empty our load into a sack of flesh! For that reason, we should fight to surpass our base instincts and elevate ourselves and humanity beyond our current state of hedonistic nihility.

 

[Kamikaze]

As far as we know, the universe is an active and theoretically finite process. Thing is that we are discussing time frames unfathomable to us as a species. Is there a chance for another sentient species post humans on our planet? This entirely depends in which state it remains after our demise. I think we should focus more on decoupling our sentience and intellect from the more archaic and primordial aspects of humanity. Only then we can make the next great evolutionary leap.

 

[Black Soul]

What do you want to say exactly?

 

[OwlGod]

pardon my schizophasia sir just want to sound smart hehee

 

[Kamikaze]

pardon my schizophasia sir just want to sound smart hehee

I just wanna get laid, what the fuck man
cycles? the universe? how about some pussy over here?

 

[OwlGod]

heheheheh

 

[Mecoja]

World will sooner come to an end than humans will go extinct unless enviorment becomes to harsh or no resources for human survival. I heard many times that humans are self destructive, its the total opposite humans are programmed to survive. Even if the 99.99% of world population perish, the rest would be smarter than they are now.

 

[PoodankMcGee]

A lot of this ties into Fermi's Paradox, which you should definitely look up if you have not already done so. It basically describes the conundrum that, if the universe is so vast that there are other planets capable of supporting life, then we should have encountered extraterrestrial life by now. It is exceedingly unlikely that we were the first life to develop in the universe, and older, more advanced life forms should have developed interstellar travel to have encountered us by now.

One of the answers to this is the Great Filter, the concept that life forms end up extinctioning themselves before they develop Star Trek tier interstellar travel. This sounds reasonable to me as we have developed the capacity to destroy ourselves with nuclear technology long before we can explore outer space significantly. This would support a kind of cyclical hypothesis of life developing and destroying itseld before reaching a certain threshold of advancement.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

sun lifecycles are hard to comprehend.

a blue dwarf sun is suppose to shine for 6 trillion years, but since no sun has gotten to that life stage yet since nothing is that old, so it's all theoretical

Even if you assume the universe is 13 billion years old, red dwarf suns haven't even progressed 1% of their life.

 

[erenyeager]

If we suppose the human race goes extinct, what happens then? Do you think another species on our planet would eventually become sentient and communicatively effective enough to create a civilization as sophisticated as ours? Given how our conscious awareness is a byproduct of a natural evolutionary process that selected based on reproductive aptitude, and assuming they'd even be capable of accomplishing what we have, they'd realistically have similar problems that we do and struggle with their inborn nature and biology - they might even have it worse. Eventually our sun will overtake the planets in our solar system and extinguish, reducing anything resembling life into space debris in 5.5 billion years. Bottom line: sentient life is necessary for the continuation of life beyond eons.

Do we put faith in a potential future civilization that may or may not exist in the future to rectify themselves and the world? We have no way of knowing, with our limited knowledge of the universe, whether a sentient species can exist again AND have the chance of overcoming it that exceeds our own. For all we know, whatever the universe is constructed of has an expiration date, and requires a sentient existence with sufficient technological prowess to alter it before everything becomes void forever.

There are beautiful things in this world worth keeping even amongst utter depravity. And if not for the beauty currently seen, for the true beauty yet unseen that could exist, only if we overcame the need to empty our load into a sack of flesh! For that reason, we should fight to surpass our base instincts and elevate ourselves and humanity beyond our current state of hedonistic nihility.

Calling chuck. I fucking hate his faggotry creation.

 

[based_meme]

If we suppose the human race goes extinct, what happens then?

Who cares? Everybody is dead to care.

Do you think another species on our planet would eventually become sentient and communicatively effective enough to create a civilization as sophisticated as ours?

Maybe. Maybe not. Impossible to estimate.

Given how our conscious awareness is a byproduct of a natural evolutionary process that selected based on reproductive aptitude, and assuming they'd even be capable of accomplishing what we have, they'd realistically have similar problems that we do and struggle with their inborn nature and biology - they might even have it worse.

Just look at the nature of any given animal. Now pretend it evolves into something resembling us (intelligent, sentient, and bipedal, bit doesn't have to be bipedal). Can you imagine or envision what it its societies, politics, morals, cultures, works of creativity, and struggles (if any) with each other would be like on a planetary scale like ours?

Bottom line: sentient life is necessary for the continuation of life beyond eons.

Is it?

Do we put faith in a potential future civilization that may or may not exist in the future to rectify themselves and the world?

Who cares? We're all dead, remember?

We have no way of knowing, with our limited knowledge of the universe, whether a sentient species can exist again AND have the chance of overcoming it that exceeds our own. For all we know, whatever the universe is constructed of has an expiration date, and requires a sentient existence with sufficient technological prowess to alter it before everything becomes void forever.

You can only ever escape true and final annihilation when you're able to jump into another universe that hasn't died yet.

There are beautiful things in this world worth keeping even amongst utter depravity.

Why keep them? We'll all be dead to appreciate any beauty. Harmonious geometric patterns mixed with the right wavelengths of light don't mean anything, if nothing is there to observe and appreciate it.

And if not for the beauty currently seen, for the true beauty yet unseen that could exist, only if we overcame the need to empty our load into a sack of flesh! For that reason, we should fight to surpass our base instincts and elevate ourselves and humanity beyond our current state of hedonistic nihility.

Noble cope, but it's not happening in this universe. Our nature won't allow it. We're just not built that way.

 

[Deleted member 35725]

You can only ever escape true and final annihilation when you're able to jump into another universe that hasn't died yet.

I hope they do eventually get around to building the technology for it, even though it might take hundreds of thousands of years to complete.

 

[based_meme]

I hope they do eventually get around to building the technology for it, even though it might take hundreds of thousands of years to complete.

Unfortunately, it's not physically possible.