Venting If Respect is Earned, Postmaxxers and High Status People should be made to pay a price with disrespect as well, not just graycels

[HateCurry]

There was this guy who was banned a while ago a thread called, "would you have sex with a transgender man".

The mods banned him for "promoting something gay" I'm paraphrasing the mods and a couple other people who (wrongly) claimed he was trying to make incels like trannies:

I mention the mods and one of them reply:

The mod basically tells me, "Respect is Earned." The mod tells me respect is earned and I should stop defending a graycel because he didn't repmaxx or statusmaxx.

This is where I have a huge problem. If respect is earned, high status people and postmaxxers should be made to pay a price too, and that's by banning them as well.

It's just unfair.. why are those guys protected from criticism?

I'm not advising anyone to go to the thread and keep mentioning the mods, that's not my intention, there just shouldn't be such a class of status.

Status itself is evil. Considering people make such exceptions for you and make excuses for you just because your high status, I deem it immoral to graycels and anyone low status, and you will say you don't care if a gray get's offended; either way it's still unfair.

Labels are immoral too if you think about it, if your mother beats you you say, "Oh it's my mother she did so much for me" what the mods do here is exactly this, "Ignore the bad. See the good" this horrible mindset of living in ignorance. Oh yeah he's just a postmaxxer, leave him alone, we spent so much time together, I gave birth to my child, my three year old baby (cuz postmaxxing for three years)..

It's almost like when your child is 3 years old and you kill a baby everyone's angry at you, "Oh you don't get it dude he was a based postmaxxer why are you banning him? He was based...all this time for so little?" compared to when a mother aborts her child, her graycel son. Beyond brutal, left in the dust escorted from this planet, which is a good decision but unfair nonetheless, you're not treating them the same just because of the time you spent with one compared to the other.

Therefore if Respect is earned, postmaxxers and high status people should pay a price with disrespect thrown their way with banning them too if they commit the same crimes a graycel commits.

 

[VainHireling]

You don't have to respect anyone, if you don't feel like it.

 

[Mellatt]

You don't have respect anyone, if you don't feel like it.

 

[HateCurry]

You don't have to respect anyone, if you don't feel like it.

Okay but don't you see the problem in discriminating people based on what color their profile name is in? What about discriminating them on the amount of time you spend with them? There is a clear problem of unfairness.

 

[HateCurry]

Greycels are often mocked/not taken seriously for a number of reasons: IT/bluepilled/troon infiltrators, or just plain misinformed or stupid. If you are new to a forum, it is best not to make such inflammatory posts, but instead lay low and learn the ropes. After you have become comfortable you can let your personality SHINE and start making posts that are more specific to things that you are interested in discussing.

You're excusing the mods' behavior by saying it's the graycel's fault.

Postmaxxers aren't exactly respected, especially not the 2022cels. I saw one who joined not even 2 weeks ago and already has over 4,000 posts. We have seen high post users be temp/perm banned, also, so they aren't exactly given some sort of special treatment. Respect is definitely earned, and we are all held to the same standards.

Why aren't they banned? We're not all held to the same standard I gave you proof you dumbass brain dead retard

When someone new makes a post about trannys, as innocent as it may appear, there are certain undertones that current users are able to pick up on. Bait content + greycel = probably an IT larper, or something akin to that. It's not surprising that we would form a closer relationship with someone that has been postmaxxing for 3 years as opposed to someone who just joined and is posting sus content. That 3 year postmaxxer may have already established a reputation as a schizo/baiter/satirist, so posts from them that would be sus from a greycel are often allowed to pass - but occassionally they do get reprimanded for it.

This doesn't justify outright banning them and EVEN IF IT DOES, postmaxxers should be banned for such too, the mods should be serious with them and give them warnings OR ELSE it's unfair. Not just postmaxxers high status incels on this site to be held to the same standard OR ELSE IT's UNFAIR!!!

 

[Pixycel]

Greycels are often mocked/not taken seriously for a number of reasons: IT/bluepilled/troon infiltrators, or just plain misinformed or stupid. If you are new to a forum, it is best not to make such inflammatory posts, but instead lay low and learn the ropes. After you have become comfortable you can let your personality SHINE and start making posts that are more specific to things that you are interested in discussing. Postmaxxers aren't exactly respected, especially not the 2022cels. I saw one who joined not even 2 weeks ago and already has over 4,000 posts. We have seen high post users be temp/perm banned, also, so they aren't exactly given some sort of special treatment. Respect is definitely earned, and we are all held to the same standards.

When someone new makes a post about trannys, as innocent as it may appear, there are certain undertones that current users are able to pick up on. Bait content + greycel = probably an IT larper, or something akin to that. It's not surprising that we would form a closer relationship with someone that has been postmaxxing for 3 years as opposed to someone who just joined and is posting sus content. That 3 year postmaxxer may have already established a reputation as a schizo/baiter/satirist, so posts from them that would be sus from a greycel are often allowed to pass - but occassionally they do get reprimanded for it.

good post, saves me 10 minutes of explaining why OP is retarded.

 

[lemon21]

The mods are biased, then again we're on an incel forum. And the question was very, very gay. Bear in mind that i made some stupid posts too and i learned my lesson, now you can either accept it or go back to reddit.

 

[VainHireling]

Okay but don't you see the problem in discriminating people based on what color their profile name is in? What about discriminating them on the amount of time you spend with them? There is a clear problem of unfairness.

I have addressed this issue in one of my early threads (cannot find it now).
I remember saying there that we should be more lenient towards grays, because they are often naive and not that deep into Blackpill.
With time I have learned to agree with @dungeondragon who said:

Greycels are often mocked/not taken seriously for a number of reasons: IT/bluepilled/troon infiltrators, or just plain misinformed or stupid. If you are new to a forum, it is best not to make such inflammatory posts, but instead lay low and learn the ropes. After you have become comfortable you can let your personality SHINE and start making posts that are more specific to things that you are interested in discussing. Postmaxxers aren't exactly respected, especially not the 2022cels. I saw one who joined not even 2 weeks ago and already has over 4,000 posts. We have seen high post users be temp/perm banned, also, so they aren't exactly given some sort of special treatment. Respect is definitely earned, and we are all held to the same standards.

When someone new makes a post about trannys, as innocent as it may appear, there are certain undertones that current users are able to pick up on. Bait content + greycel = probably an IT larper, or something akin to that. It's not surprising that we would form a closer relationship with someone that has been postmaxxing for 3 years as opposed to someone who just joined and is posting sus content. That 3 year postmaxxer may have already established a reputation as a schizo/baiter/satirist, so posts from them that would be sus from a greycel are often allowed to pass - but occassionally they do get reprimanded for it.

 

[HateCurry]

good post, saves me 10 minutes of explaining why OP is retarded.

good job you're put on ignore

Get out of this delusion being dumb and saying, "I don't understand" like a retarded kid makes you smarter. If you're concerned on how it appears to be, you can pander to your equally stupid audience.

 

[HateCurry]

The mods are biased, then again we're on an incel forum. And the question was very, very gay. Bear in mind that i made some stupid posts too and i learned my lesson, now you can either accept it or go back to reddit.

There's something between acceptance and active hatred and not listening; treating people as disposable: It's honest, deep, thoughtful criticism.

 

[Pixycel]

good job you're put on ignore

god, you're such a sensitive faggot.

 

[HateCurry]

I have addressed this issue in one of my early threads (cannot find it now).
I remember saying there that we should be more lenient towards grays, because they are often naive and not that deep into Blackpill.
With time I have learned to agree with @dungeondragon who said:

1. You're showing fake interest
2. You're avoiding criticism by not referencing the thread
3. You agree with dungeondragon, my active hater once again, we'll never know why, considering there is clear criticism of him
4. What dungeondragon is doing is not literature, it's politics and he's refusing to admit what's been reference in this thread, again and again
5. Dungeondragon doesn't admit, in your referred post there is a clear bias EVEN THOUGH I pointed out there is a bias in this thread
6. Read. Learn. Talk. When you agree, make sure it makes sense.

 

[HateCurry]

god, you're such a sensitive faggot.

Bullshit shaming you don't make sense. I'd rather learn something productive and have intellectual conversations than hang out with retards like you who insult me.

Learning is better than being a punchbag.

If you don't know about my philosophy on this I talked about this months ago:

Suffering itself is meaningless; the reward is what matters (You read=high IQ)

So I was talking to this guy about not spreading the blackpill to normies, most of you already know about this concept. I told him that it'll lead to normies hating on him and he'll be ostracized even more. The interesting part was his reply he was like, "looking forward to it" or some other...

incels.is

 

[lemon21]

There's something between acceptance and active hatred and not listening; treating people as disposable: It's honest, deep, thoughtful criticism.

You can like, be here for a couple of months contribute something and then your opinion will be somewhat regarded. Doing ridiculous things on day 1 tho?

god, you're such a sensitive faggot.

XD

 

[BlackPilledOverdose]

Greycels are often mocked/not taken seriously for a number of reasons: IT/bluepilled/troon infiltrators, or just plain misinformed or stupid. If you are new to a forum, it is best not to make such inflammatory posts, but instead lay low and learn the ropes. After you have become comfortable you can let your personality SHINE and start making posts that are more specific to things that you are interested in discussing. Postmaxxers aren't exactly respected, especially not the 2022cels. I saw one who joined not even 2 weeks ago and already has over 4,000 posts. We have seen high post users be temp/perm banned, also, so they aren't exactly given some sort of special treatment. Respect is definitely earned, and we are all held to the same standards.

When someone new makes a post about trannys, as innocent as it may appear, there are certain undertones that current users are able to pick up on. Bait content + greycel = probably an IT larper, or something akin to that. It's not surprising that we would form a closer relationship with someone that has been postmaxxing for 3 years as opposed to someone who just joined and is posting sus content. That 3 year postmaxxer may have already established a reputation as a schizo/baiter/satirist, so posts from them that would be sus from a greycel are often allowed to pass - but occassionally they do get reprimanded for it.

 

[HateCurry]

It normally is. We ("we" meaning the mods) cannot determine the true intentions of the users here, but especially greycels. If somone creates an account and there first post(s) is about something sus, like determining the forum user's stance on trannys, we can safely assume that they are an infiltrator. I'm sure there may have been innocent users who have been banned because of this, but I'd argue that it is mostly effective and thus doesn't need to change.

Okay you need to understand a few things:

1. You're not a mod
2. By what criteria do you deem something as "sus"? If it's the word, mods should ban the use of the word.

This is a nuanced topic, not black and white. A greycel does not have the same status as a 3 year+ user. An established user has already built up a repertoire with the mods and users. If they make a sus or inflammatory post, it makes sense to be more lenient and give them a chance to explain themselves. Normally a temp ban is given to give them time to reflect - it would be a shame if they were just erased without a chance.

New users, on the other hand - there isn't much to lose.

They are nobodies and are often infiltrators. What sense does it make for your first posts to be about trannys or something akin to that? You are just asking to be banned! A lurker would know better than to do that, and would already be accustomed to how the forum is run.

You admit the mods are stupid enough to ban someone for posting something "sus" even though he never implied he's gay or trans or trans positive, whatever.

An IT infiltrator wouldn't have the tact or patience to lay in wait, but would just come out and attention seek with bait. Or maybe the user is just unfamiliar with the forum and was just being stupid. Again, nothing is lost if they are deleted.

Okay, I disagree with you when you say, "There isn't too much too lose". There are tons of users dear friends of mine, excluding obvious people I've mentioned again and again I've lost due to stupid reasons.

I believe I have explained my position. Established users are given more leniency depending on why they were banned, as they should be. They ARE given warnings, they ARE given temp bans. Mods have been banned, postmaxxers have been banned. What more do you want?

Okay. How do you think I survive for months? Exactly. I was given a permaban warning. I BEGGED THE MODS to get me out for not supporting killing.

You know what, I think this is where the discussion ends, I get the trust and everything like postmaxxers can post shit in sewers and mods can think they're reliable that's a problem and this is where it ends thankfully.

I really appreciate the ban appeals section, it let's users post UNFORTUNATELY WITH MODS' APPROVAL WHICH IS CUCKED you have to LITERALLY BEG THE MODS unfortunately.

Although yeah, I do support your rules as long and regulations and standards, as long as the ban appeal section is open. There is a huge risk with moderators not giving approval but I've come to a conclusion in this discussion.

 

[HateCurry]

You can like, be here for a couple of months contribute something and then your opinion will be somewhat regarded. Doing ridiculous things on day 1 tho?

stop trolling. please.

XD

fuck no.

 

[HateCurry]

What did you mean by this lol? Have I hated on you in the past? Or do you see me as your rival? Also, what/where is the clear criticism of me?

I see you as a filthy disgusting excuse maker who blames the low status citizen while supporting tyrants and kings.

Even though you're a citizen to begin with.

My clear criticism is in the first time I mentioned you.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

User "@Wizard32" has been banned several times for this reason.

 

[VainHireling]

1. You're showing fake interest

How can you tell, whether my interest is real or not?

2. You're avoiding criticism by not referencing the thread

Here: https://incels.is/threads/things-i-dont-appreciate-about-incels.371299/ Happy, bitch?
Bonus: https://incels.is/threads/im-leaving-this-site-for-good.376970/#post-8832901

6. Read. Learn. Talk. When you agree, make sure it makes sense.

Says the pot to the kettle.

 

[HateCurry]

User "@Wizard32" has been banned several times for this reason.

don't call on retards I don't want them here

 

[HateCurry]

How can you tell, whether my interest is real or not?

You created no such post, maybe that's why?

Here: https://incels.is/threads/things-i-dont-appreciate-about-incels.371299/ Happy, bitch?

I'm difficult to please. Okay I read them, I don't think they relate (obviously) but maybe 1%, I definitely see some potential.

Says the pot to the kettle.

Shut the fuck up. You wanna statusmax and pander to your audience like I said I already mentioned another guy I forgot the name of obviously about this, you can pander and laugh all you want.

 

[VainHireling]

Shut the fuck up

Make me, bitch.

 

[JayGoptri]

There was this guy who was banned a while ago a thread called, "would you have sex with a transgender man".

The mods banned him for "promoting something gay" I'm paraphrasing the mods and a couple other people who (wrongly) claimed he was trying to make incels like trannies:

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I mention the mods and one of them reply:

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The mod basically tells me, "Respect is Earned." The mod tells me respect is earned and I should stop defending a graycel because he didn't repmaxx or statusmaxx.

This is where I have a huge problem. If respect is earned, high status people and postmaxxers should be made to pay a price too, and that's by banning them as well.

It's just unfair.. why are those guys protected from criticism?

I'm not advising anyone to go to the thread and keep mentioning the mods, that's not my intention, there just shouldn't be such a class of status.

Status itself is evil. Considering people make such exceptions for you and make excuses for you just because your high status, I deem it immoral to graycels and anyone low status, and you will say you don't care if a gray get's offended; either way it's still unfair.

Labels are immoral too if you think about it, if your mother beats you you say, "Oh it's my mother she did so much for me" what the mods do here is exactly this, "Ignore the bad. See the good" this horrible mindset of living in ignorance. Oh yeah he's just a postmaxxer, leave him alone, we spent so much time together, I gave birth to my child, my three year old baby (cuz postmaxxing for three years)..

It's almost like when your child is 3 years old and you kill a baby everyone's angry at you, "Oh you don't get it dude he was a based postmaxxer why are you banning him? He was based...all this time for so little?" compared to when a mother aborts her child, her graycel son. Beyond brutal, left in the dust escorted from this planet, which is a good decision but unfair nonetheless, you're not treating them the same just because of the time you spent with one compared to the other.

Therefore if Respect is earned, postmaxxers and high status people should pay a price with disrespect thrown their way with banning them too if they commit the same crimes a graycel commits.

Interesting points. Certainly should be discussed more.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Postmaxxing shouldn't be allowed period.

It's just spamming the forum with nonsense without contributing any substantial discussions, and the users that do it here are most definitely immature youngcels and larpers who just come to this site to be edgy.

Tbh, the Sewers was a mistake and it should be taken down.

 

[HateCurry]

Never said I was a mod, dunce. It seems that you are very stupid, soI'll have to explain things in laymans terms for you. "Sus" means suspicious, indicating ulterior motives. A grey posting about something like trannys is "sus", as many in IT accuse us of being gay, bisexual, closeted, pedos, etcetera. Why would we be attracted to trannys? This is an incel forum for straight men to lament about not being able to garner attention from foids, plus dating and sex. There is nowhere in that equation where trannys come into play. It is bait, plain and simple.

You said "we(we meaning the mods).." mods can speak for themselves don't have to make excuses for them. Again you're not the mod.

I never asked you what sus means. I said I support banning the word tranny itself if someone somehow finds it sus even though the person referenced never said he was trans or gay.

Trans people have transitioned to switch genders therefore saying you're straight doesn't REALLY make any sense considering they can be whatever gender they want.

Some of these trans people, I remember this guy a white youtuber in thailand he looks for ladyboys he can take pics with he goes and identifies who's trans and who's not in gay festivals. I watched him and dude I would fuck them if I didn't notice their tits or ass, some of them have fake tits it's amazing how well they manage to disguise themselves.

There you go you know, it can really trick your brain into believing he's a woman. The guy usually presses on them insisting they're trans and they just give up and say they're gay and JBW is real, this guy is 4/10 in the west, he slays there, everyone talks to him and is flirty.

It's a smart tactic that works, as evident by there not being any of that talk in the forums. The mods have made it very clear where they stand on certain topics. No gay shit. Abide by that rule and you will not be banned. Simple. Not hard to understand. Not something worth fighting over. If you want to talk about that stuff, go to Reddit. Or 4chan.

Uhuh yet everyone's throwing the tranny word around. As I said, it can literally trick your brain into believing he's a women, it's powerful.

Tough, nigga. It seems you have personal biases due to some of your friends being banned. I cannot argue with someone in their feelings. They didn't abide by the rules, and thus were banned. Who gives a shit? You do, it seems, so why don't you follow them? If you feel so strongly about this topic, why don't you rebel and start making posts that many would deem to be "sus"? Stand up for what you believe!

Haven't I mentioned before my stance on this bullshit suffering self destructive route? I have sympathy for my past friends, I care for my future friends, I don't want them to be banned.

"Survive", lol. You talk as if this forum is a warzone. Just don't be foolish and post things that can get you banned. I can understand if you are a new user and did not know about such rules - go talk to the mods if you feel so strongly about it. I was given a warning early in my account creation by the DASTARDLY Dregster for having a foid avi, and so I changed it and went about my day. No biggie. Read the room, familiarise yourself with the general rules and guidelines, and sperg out!

I don't even think trannymaxxing and all this crap wasn't there before this guy, there were tons of jokes unnoticed by the mods, obviously they didn't ban them.

This guy seemed to be a banned user with an alt account with the wording of that thread, "tranny" there's just no way he didn't see more use of the word tranny and jokes associated with it.

I'm sorry I just can't get this "mama's boy" image regarding you out of my mind. You're acting like it'll be okay if you have a horrible house and your mother beats you, you just have to follow the rules like a bitch. No criticism whatsoever just straight up being a bitch, being a doormat.

Attempt #2 of ending this discussion. I agree with you. After all it's the mods' and admin's forum to begin with, they can do whatever they want, I'm just a slave in this whole thing.

 

[HateCurry]

Interesting points. Certainly should be discussed more.

brother I haven't seen you in years made me cry seeing you again

 

[HateCurry]

It was a mistake interacting with you. I regret spending my time in this cursed thread.

you can always fuck off faggot

 

[HateCurry]

Postmaxxing shouldn't be allowed period.

It's just spamming the forum with nonsense without contributing any substantial discussions, and the users that do it here are most definitely immature youngcels and larpers who just come to this site to be edgy.

Tbh, the Sewers was a mistake and it should be taken down.

There's a reason I disagree.

The mods created sewers to disregard threads that won't appear to the general public at first glance, the stuff they want to hide. I haven't seen any user analyse this but this is it, the sewers is the childish side of the mods, all my threads the mods disagreed with were moved to sewers, because they were the stuff the general public shouldn't see, of this site.

It's not that horribly disgusting if there's any new incel who's larping with registry, it's a based spam land and unpopular hated threads.

You see how you can't see sewers unless you're signed up? lol

 

[HateCurry]

Ironic you calling me a faggot whilst complaining about the banning of a tranny advocator.

He's not a tranny advocator get your facts straight you retard, then fuck off, it's a waste of my time interacting with you.

 

[decembrist_kirillov]

i do not tolerate who is not paragon

 

[JayGoptri]

brother I haven't seen you in years made me cry seeing you again

Well... I've been here brocel.

 

[HateCurry]

Well... I've been here brocel.

thanks for being here

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

There's a reason I disagree.

The mods created sewers to disregard threads that won't appear to the general public at first glance, the stuff they want to hide. I haven't seen any user analyse this but this is it, the sewers is the childish side of the mods, all my threads the mods disagreed with were moved to sewers, because they were the stuff the general public shouldn't see, of this site.

It's not that horribly disgusting if there's any new incel who's larping with registry, it's a based spam land and unpopular hated threads.

You see how you can't see sewers unless you're signed up? lol

The Sewers was literally invented to appease the postmaxxers. Plus, posts made in The Sewers still counts in your post count.

If the mods found a thread on ID that they don't approve, they can just move it to The Lounge or delete it.

Plus, we already have a Bunker which is for more serious discussions, and unregistered and new users can't access it either.

 

[yez]

Tbh

 

[Furlossus]

 

[HateCurry]

The Sewers was literally invented to appease the postmaxxers. Plus, posts made in The Sewers still counts in your post count.

I never denied posts count in the sewers. The sentence above is what they say it was invented for, there are other reasons.

If the mods found a thread on ID that they don't approve, they can just move it to The Lounge or delete it.

I don't think they can. The normies who view this forum everyday can still see Lounge, they can't see Sewers.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

User "@Wizard32" has been banned several times for this reason.

https://incels.is/members/wizard32.7716/#warnings

I've only been banned four times and none of those have had anything to do with trannies AFAIK

20 September 2020
7 February 2022
10 April 2022
28 July 2022

I don't recall any of these four being related to transgenderism.

My memory's pretty shit and it might take some time for me to match up these actions with PM notifications received. Maybe it'll help if I work backwards...

It would help if the log would tell me the username of the warning since then I could just search that name in the PMs. I think what helps is going by the % since that's automatically in title.

the most recent one in july 2022 that was 90% (4 day ban) was from Dregster due to my complimenting a 12 year old girl

the previous one in april 2022 (a 1 day ban for 60%) was from Caesercel who said I was sexualizing minors

In both cases these were mid-pubescent minors so I was within the bounds of the rules and these guys were disobeying Master's policies.

the feb 2022 one (3-day ban 80%) was from FatLink who said I was being pro-LGBT for making a thread about how I wanted a lesbian friend to help me double-team women. I also felt that was undeserved.

The 20 september 2020 one (100% permaban rescineded within 6 weeks) is the one I'm having trouble narrowing down. I can't remember who did it, I think it might've been the preceding staff and a lot of them don't have active memberships.

@Intellau_Celistic it appears you have disabled commenting on your profile and receiving PMs, why is this? very sus.