If incels who pay for sex are fakecels, then everyone is a Volcel

[Esoteric7]

A lot of users say:

“If you paid for sex, you’re not an incel”

Don't these idiots realise that this also makes them volcels?

This means that anyone who is sexless and refuses to pay is voluntarily celibate (volcel). They have an option but they choose not to take it, so the "involuntary" part collapses. An “involuntary” state requires the total absence of options. If the option exists but you reject it, you are a volcel, i.e., a fake Incel.

Incels who refuse for moral reasons are just volcel with principles. Incels that live in areas where prostitution is illegal are still volcels in theory, as they could travel somewhere where it is legal, so they're geographically volcels. If you're willing to travel for work or leisure, you can't travel for a transaction?

If paying for sex disqualifies you from inceldom, then there is no such thing as an incel, because for virtually every man, sex is available.

"Even Escorts Won't See Me"

Some will say: "But even escorts reject me. I'm too ugly/fat/weird for them"

This incredibly hard to believe. It is statistically improbable and ignores the fundamentals of supply and demand.

As long as you meet the absolute bare minimum requirements:

· You have the money
· You are clean
· You are respectful
· You are not grotesquely obese

. . . someone will take your money.

That's literally the business model. The sex industry is a business designed to monetize desire, it does not operate on the same foid hypergamous selection criteria.

There are escorts who specialize in disabled clients, elderly clients, socially crippled clients.

The market accommodates all levels.

The only men I can think of that are truly incapable of ever having sex are those with severe physical or mental disabilities that prevent them from even arranging a transaction. For the rest of us, it's a choice. A humiliating choice, but a choice nonetheless.

If a guy is being rejected by the entire industry, it is almost certainly due to a failure to meet the bare minimum (e.g., being unwashed, aggressive, or physically repulsive to the point of being a life-threatening liability like obesity), not because he is too unattractive.

If you still think incels who pay for it are fakecels, but think you're still an incel, then you're using the term as a psychological comfort blanket, because you'd rather remain in a state of celibacy because you find paying for it too humiliating or beneath your ego.

 

[NickelodeonCel]

Yeah I agree with you.

Even a 4'7 subhuman can pay a hooker.

 

[SewerGoat]

I don't hold a grudge against anyone going to escorts. But yes, i agree with you. There is a difference between having to pay for Sex and girl genuinely liking you and wanting to have Sex with you

 

[LeFrenchCel]

We are all volcels at some point depending on what one's boundaries

Some also might say that you're volcel if you don't ask out every stranger you see or don't try your best to looksmax

The notions of incel/volcel/truecel/fakecel are very volatile atp

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.

 

[fatass30000]

We are all volcels at some point depending on what one's boundaries

Some also might say that you're volcel if you don't ask out every stranger you see or don't try your best to looksmax

The notions of incel/volcel/truecel/fakecel are very volatile atp

i feel like the limit is rejecting a woman who’s not below 3 or 4/10. Or rejecting a woman because she ain’t 15 years old or has a high body count. For me, anything below 3/10 is ok to reject. I wouldn’t expect someone to mate with a disfigured land whale.

 

[fatass30000]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.

so should betabuxxers be considered incel? Not trying to be argumentative, just want to hear different perspectives.

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

A lot of escorts can be picky

 

[Esoteric7]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.

No, the difference is that nobody on here actually says that seriously: that you are volcel if you don't rape. Whereas there have been many who strongly claim that if you pay for sex, you cannot be an Incel

 

[LeFrenchCel]

i feel like the limit is rejecting a woman who’s not below 3 or 4/10. Or rejecting a woman because she ain’t 15 years old or has a high body count. For me, anything below 3/10 is ok to reject. I wouldn’t expect someone to mate with a disfigured land whale.

Yeah we all have different definitions of the term

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

No, the difference is that nobody on here actually says that seriously: that you are volcel if you don't rape. Whereas there have been many who strongly claim that if you pay for sex, you cannot be an Incel

I get that nobody seriously is saying you aren't a real incel if you don't try to rape a woman I'm just saying if you wanted to you could use the same kind argument to argue that which is why it's better to define inceldom by whether or not a woman wants to have sex with you.

 

[ANTAGONIST]

every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them

 

[ihatelife2]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.

Lmao this made me laugh ngl

 

[Grodd]

Escortcels aren't fakecel nor are you a volcel for not going to an escort.

 

[OverLoner]

A lot of escorts can be picky

There's lots of escorts that won't see black men and sometimes asians. One of the few times I actually feel like I have an advantage being white. Also being 31 it's great bc I'm at the age where I can see basically any escort.

 

[GloriousMisanthrope]

Yeah, I do agree with you. Arguing that paying for an escort makes you a fakecel is beyond retarded. I'll never pay for an escort because my hatred for women doesn't allow it.

 

[Jeffery Epstein]

Yeah, same. I find it odd whores are rejecting men. Either these men are Elephant man-level ugly, stink like shit or are soliciting some kinda luxury hooker who can afford to be picky. If you fuck for money you are by definition desperate and shouldn't normally have such high standards.

 

[Karlicel]

A lot of users say:

“If you paid for sex, you’re not an incel”

Don't these idiots realise that this also makes them volcels?

This means that anyone who is sexless and refuses to pay is voluntarily celibate (volcel). They have an option but they choose not to take it, so the "involuntary" part collapses. An “involuntary” state requires the total absence of options. If the option exists but you reject it, you are a volcel, i.e., a fake Incel.

Incels who refuse for moral reasons are just volcel with principles. Incels that live in areas where prostitution is illegal are still volcels in theory, as they could travel somewhere where it is legal, so they're geographically volcels. If you're willing to travel for work or leisure, you can't travel for a transaction?

If paying for sex disqualifies you from inceldom, then there is no such thing as an incel, because for virtually every man, sex is available.

"Even Escorts Won't See Me"

Some will say: "But even escorts reject me. I'm too ugly/fat/weird for them"

This incredibly hard to believe. It is statistically improbable and ignores the fundamentals of supply and demand.

As long as you meet the absolute bare minimum requirements:

· You have the money
· You are clean
· You are respectful
· You are not grotesquely obese

. . . someone will take your money.

That's literally the business model. The sex industry is a business designed to monetize desire, it does not operate on the same foid hypergamous selection criteria.

There are escorts who specialize in disabled clients, elderly clients, socially crippled clients.

The market accommodates all levels.

The only men I can think of that are truly incapable of ever having sex are those with severe physical or mental disabilities that prevent them from even arranging a transaction. For the rest of us, it's a choice. A humiliating choice, but a choice nonetheless.

If a guy is being rejected by the entire industry, it is almost certainly due to a failure to meet the bare minimum (e.g., being unwashed, aggressive, or physically repulsive to the point of being a life-threatening liability like obesity), not because he is too unattractive.

If you still think incels who pay for it are fakecels, but think you're still an incel, then you're using the term as a psychological comfort blanket, because you'd rather remain in a state of celibacy because you find paying for it too humiliating or beneath your ego.

Water.
Beeing an escortcel is a humiliation not a supperiority.

 

[OverLoner]

Water.
Beeing an escortcel is a humiliation not a supperiority.

Not really. It's feel great to have sex pretty much on demand. Find yourself a pretty escort and I guarantee it will change your tune.

 

[Ricecel Sungnodius]

Beeing an escortcel is a humiliation not a supperiority.

 

[Zionist]

If your broke you can't pay for box

 

[Spice]

Paying for sex doesn't count, also its not a relationship, paying for it still makes you an incel because you had to pay to begin with

 

[foidslayer4ever]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.

I like this idea.

 

[Lonelyus]

I cant relate to sexhavers and never will, For me an incel is a KHHV and those who had sex is sexhavers.

 

[razielkillerofgods]

Escortmaxxers are degenerates and I refuse to associate with them. They have the same attitude of superiority as normies who have sex.
Incels are men who aren't having sex, period. Everything else is a slippery slope. In 10-20 years the definition will change to: "Incels are the men that can't get the top 20% of women and don't want the bottom 80% therefore they are sexless" aka what femcels define themselfs now.

 

[Wolfstorm]

I escortmaxxed up to 2013, then stopped.
And I didn't touch a meathole since I stopped escortmaxxing.
So yes, escortmaxxers are incels, because as soon as they stop paying, they stop touching foids, like any of us.

The only true volcels were the monks, who visited brothels in order to be tempted by the whores (who were cheap at that time and didnt use condoms) and then resist. An incel would not resist them, he would jump on their arms.

 

[senegambianbro]

Under this same logic you could argue every incel is actually a volcel for not forcing women to have sex with them through rape, Inceldom therefore cannot be defined by whether or not someone can get sex but instead whether or not a women would willing have sex with you without you giving them anything.