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If God exists then why are there wars, conflicts, suffering? (conversation)

Sir Silentium

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I don't believe God exists
There are so many wars, conflicts and suffering in this world. If God exists, there would be peace on Earth.
You are a dentist right?
Yes, why?
I don't think dentists exist.
But I am sitting next to you?
Then why are there people with broken teeth in this world? If there were dentists, then nobody would have broken teeth.
But some people don't go to dentists.
Same with God, just because he exists doesn't mean every has to turn to him. If everyone did what God asked us to do, there would be peace on Earth.

Just because God is all powerful doesn't mean everything is going to be perfect. It's the price we pay for having the free will to choose God or not. God is so loving that he gave us the choice.

Amen

@thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh @Lo3e
 
what a stupid argument...
nobody worship dentists, nor do they claim they are all powerful
 
what a stupid argument...
nobody worship dentists, nor do they claim they are all powerful
Surely this is a joke?

But i'll take it seriously, you attacked the analogy instead of the point it was illustrating. This doesn't require two things to be identical - it only has to be similar in the specific aspect being discussed of course.

If you can't understand, then it may just be an IQ factor sorry to say, but more likely ignorance.
 
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If this nih respects free will so much why'd he burn down Sodom and Gomorrah? It was their choice to be evil rapists, wasn't it?
 
God is a faggot bc he had the choice to let us suffer or not and chose to do it anyway
 
If this nih respects free will so much why'd he burn down Sodom and Gomorrah? It was their choice to be evil rapists, wasn't it?
Doesn't mean there won't be repercussions for their actions/choices.

God is a faggot bc he had the choice to let us suffer or not and chose to do it anyway
It was man's wrongdoings that led to the suffering, as a result of the devil. God knew the suffering would arise of course, but it's all a result of humanities poor choices
 
Doesn't mean there won't be repercussions for their actions/choices.
That's not the point. Point is if he burned down a city then for being evil, why won't he do it again? Why won't this all-seeing all-knowing infinitely wise being bestow the same punishment now? He didn't respect free will then. You can't tell me he magically does now
 
That's not the point. Point is if he burned down a city then for being evil, why won't he do it again? Why won't this all-seeing all-knowing infinitely wise being bestow the same punishment now? He didn't respect free will then. You can't tell me he magically does now
And billahi if you pull the "God works in mysterious ways" or "He's beyond our understanding" agnostic trash I'll never respect you
 
That's not the point. Point is if he burned down a city then for being evil, why won't he do it again? Why won't this all-seeing all-knowing infinitely wise being bestow the same punishment now? He didn't respect free will then. You can't tell me he magically does now
He absolutely will do it again. When he returns he will destroy this world as we know it, and it talks about this in revelations. Hail and fire will burn up a third of the Earth. After this, the Earth as we know it will be completely purged and destroyed. Then God will form a new earth to become hell, and a new earth will be formed with no water to be heaven.

This is all a result of the punishments for our choices and the free will that an all loving God gave to us. Just because there are consequences doesn't mean he doesn't love us.

Think of it this way, we smack and discipline our children not because we hate them and what to inflict suffering upon them, but rather because we love them and want to teach them well. Same logic can be applied for this case, and if we don't follow God, then like mentioned previously there will be consequences.
 
And billahi if you pull the "God works in mysterious ways" or "He's beyond our understanding" agnostic trash I'll never respect you
Doesn't matter, I don't respect you at all and if i'm being really honest, I probably never will. I respect people that respect God, and if you don't then needless to say.
Bible says that we are not of this world, and are sent with a purpose tell people about Christ. If I cared about being respected then I wouldn't make my entire presence revolve around God. I care about what God thinks of me, not what man thinks.

But that's not the point, the Bible says that God is above our understanding and beyond human comprehension. The Bible says that His thoughts are not our thoughts, just to name a verse. So why would this not be a valid response? It is the definite objective 100% certain truth.
 
On sum religious fanaticism type xi

Why should I gaf about the bible? It's not an authoritative source of truth
Mate you are literally questioning me about God and the Bible kek, don't ask biblical questions if you don't want a biblical answer.

"I have a girlfriend but she goes to a different school"
What are you referring to?
 
Mate you are literally questioning me about God and the Bible
Not objective truth btw. That's the whole point. It's just that YOU believe it's true
What are you referring to?
"He'll come down someday and do the thing" -> "lol just believe me"
"I have a girlfriend but she goes to a different school" -> "lol just believe me"
 
Not objective truth btw. That's the whole point. It's just that YOU believe it's true
I'm sure you don't care, but i've been writing up this thread since June regarding the objective truth and it's relevance. I'm convinced that if someone reads this with an open mind that they will gain the understanding of the ultimate divinity of Christ - and in turn understand objective truths from a biblical aspect. Don't worry, I'll tag you.

"He'll come down someday and do the thing" -> "lol just believe me"
"I have a girlfriend but she goes to a different school" -> "lol just believe me"
Not worth replying to. No matter what I say nothing will change your opinion so I don't see the reason to continue.
 
No pussy, no God worship! :lasereyes:
 
I'm sure you don't care,
I only care about about getting love, sex and affection from women.

If God wanted my support, he would snap His fingers to give me a harem of women!

If He exists, but doesn't help me, then He doesn't want or doesn't care about my support.
 
No matter what I say nothing will change your opinion so I don't see the reason to continue.
Because you're coping so hard you actually think this shit is true. Why should I believe any of your abrahamic religions over greek mythology?
 
Because you're coping so hard you actually think this shit is true. Why should I believe any of your abrahamic religions over greek mythology?
Evidence.
 
Just because God is all powerful doesn't mean everything is going to be perfect. It's the price we pay for having the free will to choose God or not. God is so loving that he gave us the choice
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It was man's wrongdoings that led to the suffering, as a result of the devil. God knew the suffering would arise of course, but it's all a result of humanities poor choices
Should have let the sinners pay, not everyone else
 
Should have let the sinners pay, not everyone else
Yea, but then again, we are all sinners if you think about it - but it started with Adam and Eve. Regardless if I ever see those two in heaven i'm giving them a piece of my mind XD
 
If this nih respects free will so much why'd he burn down Sodom and Gomorrah? It was their choice to be evil rapists, wasn't it?
To show the consequence of our sin, helping to demonstrate our need for Christ. The natural consequence of a sinful society is destruction, whether it is external or internal
 
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To show the consequence of our sin
Why didn't these consequences befall King Leopold II when he murdered 10 million slaves, Hitler when he killed 271K Jews, Israel when they invaded Gaza, the US when they used DEWs on people in Cuba and so on and so forth. Why did his "just" ass bring punishment on Sodom and not their modern day equivalents?
 
Why didn't these consequences befall King Leopold II when he murdered 10 million slaves, Hitler when he killed 271K Jews, Israel when they invaded Gaza, the US when they used DEWs on people in Cuba and so on and so forth. Why did his "just" ass bring punishment on Sodom and not their modern day equivalents?
Modern Israel is in the process of internal collapse. All of these other examples collapsed. Where is Nazi Germany on a map?

Eph 4:30 "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."
 
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Muttmerica isn't falling any time soon. It didn't fall after 2 economic collapses. What's a third going to do?
America doesn't need violent destruction; it is internally falling and has been since the 1860s.
 
America doesn't need violent destruction; it is internally falling and has been since the 1860s.
"It's been a century of fruition but THIS century is the one bro trust :soy:"
 

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