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I wish i had a 24cm dick

Nobody knows how the "variety" in length came into existence. This also is not variety, it is disparity resulting into despair. "Normal variety" is not enough in order to explain this. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it is one contribution to why that is. I will give you that but it is nothing new. Unfortunately for now all we have are theories and hypothesis. One theory might be more plausible than another one but that is about it. I talked about this in other threads and I wish we would have an actual and final answer to why that is.
Except the pump theory has mechanical evidence.
Pumpaction



Having a small penis is a curse. It is humiliating and emasculating. Therefore it is the first insult they resort to.
I haven't seen how you bridge the gap from how a small penis is emasculating and holes are correct to use it as a dagger insult. Given the thread you linked, it appears your belief is that penis size is requisite for female pleasure and so men can be insulted for not having pleasure-giving anatomy. I find that veering on simping, to pretend hole preference was the determinate cause of human traits, when they've been raped and used as a traded good for most of their existence. That is also why it sounds simpy when you say a small penis is emasculating, as if pleasuring holes is the benchmark of masculinity. Men don't defer to the most hung.
Fair enough. I still want to ask you something. For this I am just going to copy the text from above and post it once more:

Females care about looks. Females care about height. Would it also be a female trait for a man to care about his looks and height? This is applicable to penis size. I just want to ask a question. This question will calrify and also show that it is not a female trait to care about penis size. It is a rhetorical question and I use this on purpose. If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

@St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer
It's a masculine characteristic to compare to other men, but the way men compare themselves is not only vis-a-vi female attraction. Chess competition is nearly all male, because strategy is a male characteristic regardless of its appeal to women. Having a bigger penis is an advantage in a promiscuous sex environment, like the raping Congo which has the largest condom sizes and is a glimpse into primitive man.

As for myself, I can tell you as an incel non-participant in the sex carousal, and as someone who wants monogamous pair bonding, there are other penis considerations that are often overlooked. The dangly dick gets cold to the touch in cold weather, and spontaneous erections sometimes need to be hidden under a belt, but generally a bigger penis is alluring because it opens up the fantasy of being more likely to pass on genes in a crisis. The Serb who was most likely to have impregnated a Croat gang rape victim would be the biggest penis intersected with the last to copulate.
 
Now imagine you could not even do 1 large movement at all. You are able to do 1 or even 2. This once again is an ego boost and it all comes down to it. Knowing that you have a big penis and that you are able the experience pleasure and joy. I get it, I would do the same thing. I would go and brag about it all the time. I would go online and sent pictures of my big penis to females. I would go to video chats and show off my big penis to females.


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@St3v3Cel there is someone on Redgifs doing exactly that. I just went to Redgifs the other day and this is what showed up at the front. I should not have done that but there it was. This guy basically just goes to video chats and shows off his big penis to females. He does not have the looks and he even looks somewhat retarded. I am not saying it to insult him. I am just stating it. His big penis is enough for females to be all over it. They are completely mesmerised by it.

That also reminds me of what happened some months ago. I just went randomly to Redgifs and the first thing that showed up at the front was Girthmaster. He even has a TikTok. It is really that easy.

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I have also encountered those GIFs. I think you might have even posted one of those here on Incels.is once, but that would have been many months ago when I was still a lurker. Those who deny the dickpill really ought to look those kinds of gifs up. When a man exposes his big penis to foids on Omegle or similar the look those women give him is even more brutal than the look they give Chads. Their eyes instantly lock onto it and their mouths stand literally agape and watering. It is often non-Chad men in those types of gifs as well, the only thing they have going for them is their big penises. Dickcel suifuel of the highest order.
 
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Except the pump theory has mechanical evidence.
Pumpaction

What I was trying to get at was this. What came first? Rape and then big penises or big penises that are used for rape? The answer to that question is again clear. If that would not be the case, then there would be a following question. If a man with a small penis "rapes", would that lead to the baby having a big penis? If so, how? Rape is only possible with a big penis.

@St3v3Cel

I haven't seen how you bridge the gap from how a small penis is emasculating and holes are correct to use it as a dagger insult.

There is no gap.

Given the thread you linked, it appears your belief is that penis size is requisite for female pleasure and so men can be insulted for not having pleasure-giving anatomy.

It is not a belief. It is also not about "female pleasure". Having a big penis is a prerequisite.

I find that veering on simping, to pretend hole preference was the determinate cause of human traits, when they've been raped and used as a traded good for most of their existence.

In regards to preference. To want a big penis is a preference that all men have.

That is also why it sounds simpy when you say a small penis is emasculating

Having a small penis is emasculating and humiliating. How is me saying that simpy? If it is not emasculating and humiliating, then what is it? A rhetorical question.

as if pleasuring holes is the benchmark of masculinity.

I never talked about that. You are the one who brought it up.

Men don't defer to the most hung.

All men want to have a big penis.

It's a masculine characteristic to compare to other men, but the way men compare themselves is not only vis-a-vi female attraction. Chess competition is nearly all male, because strategy is a male characteristic regardless of its appeal to women. Having a bigger penis is an advantage in a promiscuous sex environment, like the raping Congo which has the largest condom sizes and is a glimpse into primitive man.

As for myself, I can tell you as an incel non-participant in the sex carousal, and as someone who wants monogamous pair bonding, there are other penis considerations that are often overlooked. The dangly dick gets cold to the touch in cold weather, and spontaneous erections sometimes need to be hidden under a belt, but generally a bigger penis is alluring because it opens up the fantasy of being more likely to pass on genes in a crisis. The Serb who was most likely to have impregnated a Croat gang rape victim would be the biggest penis intersected with the last to copulate.

You said that I do not have a coherent theory about penis anatomy, yet here you are being incoherent and did not even engage with anything I said. So, I will just ask once more:
Females care about looks. Females care about height. Would it also be a female trait for a man to care about his looks and height? This is applicable to penis size. I just want to ask a question. This question will calrify and also show that it is not a female trait to care about penis size. It is a rhetorical question and I use this on purpose. If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.
 
I haven't seen how you bridge the gap from how a small penis is emasculating and holes are correct to use it as a dagger insult. Given the thread you linked, it appears your belief is that penis size is requisite for female pleasure and so men can be insulted for not having pleasure-giving anatomy. I find that veering on simping, to pretend hole preference was the determinate cause of human traits, when they've been raped and used as a traded good for most of their existence. That is also why it sounds simpy when you say a small penis is emasculating, as if pleasuring holes is the benchmark of masculinity. Men don't defer to the most hung.
In an abstract sense it is not important for the woman to get pleasure, sure. But that is ignoring what a turn-off it is to not be able to please a woman. More importantly than that there is no physical pleasure to be had with a small penis. The only sexual pleasure a man with a small penis can get is from his imagination, some can not even muster that. Even so dickcels still have desire for sexual pleasure even though it can never be fulfilled. It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel. Coitus and sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life and we are physically excluded from it. @MoroccanFarmer summarised it well in another thread:
Men with big penises that only masturbate and are not having sex are more satifsied with their sexual life than men with small penises that are having sex daily.
 
More importantly than that there is no physical pleasure to be had with a small penis.
Most studies that deal with penis size list small as 3inches, 7.5cm. That is the tail end of the left side of a normal distribution and the right side would easily include 8inches, 21cm long. There's plenty of evidence of "big dick problems" in copulation so exceptionally small also having problems would be expected. However, it doesn't make sense that men would experience less pleasure from length when the source of pleasure is mostly the glans, the first part inserted. To assert that would have to mean there are parts within the deep vag that are uniquely pleasurable to the glans.
 
I have also encountered those GIFs. I think you might have even posted one of those here on Incels.is once, but that would have been many months ago when I was still a lurker. Those who deny the dickpill really ought to look those kinds of gifs up. When a man exposes his big penis to foids on Omegle or similar the look those women give him is even more brutal than the look they give Chads. Their eyes instantly lock onto it their mouths stand literally agape and watering. It is often non-Chad men in those types of gifs as well, the only thing they have going for them is their big penises. Dickcel suifuel of the highest order.

And there are still plenty of here who deny that. Just look at that:
Given the thread you linked, it appears your belief is that penis size is requisite for female pleasure and so men can be insulted for not having pleasure-giving anatomy.

He is talking about "female pelasure", yet I never talked about that. This is something that he brought up. He said it is a "belief". Before that he said:
Face is everything.

Is that also a "belief"? Of course not.

I also tried to use looks and also height on purpose:
Females care about looks. Females care about height. Would it also be a female trait for a man to care about his looks and height? This is applicable to penis size. I just want to ask a question. This question will calrify and also show that it is not a female trait to care about penis size. It is a rhetorical question and I use this on purpose. If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

@St3v3Cel it is like you said. It is not about female pleasure and I also did not talk about that. You elaborated on it really well:
More importantly than that there is no physical pleasure to be had with a small penis.

@St3v3Cel I just do not understand this. Why is there always a conversation about this?
 
I wish i had a 24cm dick.
it would mog so hard.
Imagine even if i would still be incel with that jerking off would feel much better.
I could buy sexdolls and the sex would mog
Any maybe just maybe i could even hire a prostitute
no point if ur an incel
 
There is no gap.
It is not a belief. It is also not about "female pleasure". Having a big penis is a prerequisite.
All men want to have a big penis.
:dafuckfeels: You are saying something can be used in rhetoric without needing explanation, like if arguing about looks and assuming face is everything, but face can't be everything if you're specifically saying something else is everything. I have explained what a penis does, why it has its shape and function.
You said that I do not have a coherent theory about penis anatomy, yet here you are being incoherent and did not even engage with anything I said.
Rhetorical questions in some fantasy world of choosing your anatomy but without concern to environment or any factors are pretty dumb. I would not want an exceptionally big dick in a cold weather locale and/or if engaged in a monogamous relationship. I would want one if in a tropical locale where I was somehow participant in the local promiscuity scene.
 
There's plenty of evidence of "big dick problems" in copulation so exceptionally small also having problems would be expected.
r/bigdick"problems"
Nicolas Cage Laughing GIF

Go ahead. Explain what "problems" there are with big penises when it comes to copulation. @LastGerman
However, it doesn't make sense that men would experience less pleasure from length when the source of pleasure is mostly the glans, the first part inserted. To assert that would have to mean there are parts within the deep vag that are uniquely pleasurable to the glans.
The glans is the most sensitive are of the penis, sure. But it is not the most pleasurable. If it was the most pleasurable part of the penis then men would be stimulating their glans when masturbating, not stroking their shaft. if you need more explanation read this thread by @AdolfRizzler:
The bigger the penis you have, the more pleasure receivers you have. It is as simple as that. Besides that you can just ask any man with a small penis about their subjective experience. Most all will eventually admit that they feel hardly any physical pleasure from masturbation or sex, take a look at r/smalldickproblems. When a man with a small penis strokes his shaft it is only to aid his imagination, which is again the only place where he can get sexual pleasure. Coitus is again much the same. It also easy to observe how much more pleasure men with big penises get from sex and masturbation than men with small penises. If you ever look at users here who constantly talk about raping women, or how "gooning" is their favourite hobby you will find that all of these users have at least 6 inch penises or above. That is very telling on its own.
 
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Rhetorical questions in some fantasy world of choosing your anatomy but without concern to environment or any factors are pretty dumb. I would not want an exceptionally big dick in a cold weather locale and/or if engaged in a monogamous relationship. I would want one if in a tropical locale where I was somehow participant in the local promiscuity scene.
Okay, so answer to this question. Would u agree with statement that being tall in netherlands is very important and needed for a men, bc there is so much competition, but there is no reason to be tall in southeast asia, especially for monogamous relationship, bc everyone is short.
 
r/bigdick"problems"
Go ahead. Explain what "problems" there are with big penises when it comes to copulation. @LastGerman
Long time to get arousal to fully erect, female anatomy variance, cold weather freezing of flaccid skin flap.
The bigger the penis you have, the more pleasure receivers you have.
That's not even what the thread you link claimed:
More nerve endings are stimulated at once. The penis has about 4,000 nerve endings, mostly concentrated in the glans and frenulum, but the shaft has them too. A longer and especially thicker shaft means your hand covers and stimulates more surface area with every stroke.
I don't agree with that thought sequence. If the nerve endings are spread across a larger area, that means the most highly concentrated pleasure parts are at times untouched by a long stoke while a short shaft always the glans and frenu being touched.
 
@ @St3v3Cel I just do not understand this. Why is there always a conversation about this?
It is just puzzling. Like I said to you before, the only explanation I have for this is sadism. They take joy in making us so frustrated that we want to bash our heads against the wall. "Bigger is better" is not some revolutionary concept. It does not get more simple and intuitive than that, and that is exactly what they play on. They have malicious intent all around.
 
Even if i had a long dick i couldn't use it anyway
 
Most studies that deal with penis size list small as 3inches, 7.5cm.

Again with "studies". That is not only small, that is an actual micropenis. Also according to the official numbers under 3.7 inches is considered a micropenis. And even that is based on a more so "arbitrary numeric values based on deviation", that is also set up. What I am saying is, they are even generous when it comes to it.

That is the tail end of the left side of a normal distribution and the right side would easily include 8inches, 21cm long.

So?

There's plenty of evidence of "big dick problems" in copulation so exceptionally small also having problems would be expected.

There is no "evidence" of that. Having a big penis is not a problem. Having a big penis is a blessing. If men with big penises say they have "problems", they are lying about it. They are not only humblebragging because they are not humble about it, they are just bragging about it. They are bragging about having a big penis. That is all. There are no problems.

@St3v3Cel pointed out to it:
r/bigdick"problems"
Nicolas Cage Laughing GIF

Go ahead. Explain what "problems" there are with big penises when it comes to copulation. @
LastGerman
@LastGerman


However, it doesn't make sense that men would experience less pleasure from length when the source of pleasure is mostly the glans, the first part inserted.

Why would not it make sense? @AdolfRizzler and also @St3v3Cel covered that why it does make sense. @AdolfRizzler made an entire thread about that specifically.

@St3v3Cel elaborated on it really well and also pointed out to the thread:
The glans is the most sensitive are of the penis, sure. But it is not the most pleasurable. If it was the most pleasurable part of the penis then men would be stimulating their glans when masturbating, not stroking their shaft. if you need more explanation read this thread by @
AdolfRizzler
@AdolfRizzler

To assert that would have to mean there are parts within the deep vag that are uniquely pleasurable to the glans.

Because the penis is small.

:dafuckfeels: You are saying something can be used in rhetoric without needing explanation, like if arguing about looks and assuming face is everything, but face can't be everything if you're specifically saying something else is everything.

It is rhetorical:
Females care about looks. Females care about height. Would it also be a female trait for a man to care about his looks and height? This is applicable to penis size. I just want to ask a question. This question will calrify and also show that it is not a female trait to care about penis size. It is a rhetorical question and I use this on purpose. If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

I will go over it just to clarify.
Becuase the answer to that is clear. The same thing applies to looks for example. I did not disagree with you in regards to looks. It is the opposite. I just used looks and also height for my example. That is all. The answer to my question is rhetorical since the answer to that is clear or would you say the answer to it is not clear? I am using this question to clarify.

For exmaple. If I would ask in general about looks and height, what would be the answer to that? The answer to it is clear. Same goes for the question in regards to penis size.

I have explained what a penis does, why it has its shape and function.

And I did engage with it.

Rhetorical questions in some fantasy world of choosing your anatomy

It is a simple hypothetical.

but without concern to environment or any factors are pretty dumb.

I am aksing "in general".

I would not want an exceptionally big dick in a cold weather locale and/or if engaged in a monogamous relationship.

Why? Why would that even follow?

I would want one if in a tropical locale where I was somehow participant in the local promiscuity scene.

Why?


So, I will just ask once more. I am not going into anyhting specific. I am just aksing in general here:
If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

You tried to make it specific, yet I already said that I will not make it specific but ask in general. If yo udo not want to answer, that is fine. This is why I asked what men in general would choose. I am just asking in general here without anything specific.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
That's not even what the thread you link claimed:

I don't agree with that thought sequence. If the nerve endings are spread across a larger area, that means the most highly concentrated pleasure parts are at times untouched by a long stoke while a short shaft always the glans and frenu being touched.
You are right that I made a technical mistake there. But the point of that thread still stands. And like I said before, just compare the subjective experiences and actions of men with small penises to those with big penises. That alone is enough explanation.

Can you explain why you deny the dickpill so vehemently? Do you feel physical pleasure from your penis? Do you deny that women value big penises?
 
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Long time to get arousal to fully erect, female anatomy variance, cold weather freezing of flaccid skin flap.

I will briefly go over it.

Long time to get arousal to fully erect:
This more something that also small pensies experience. That is also a commong theme on the Reddit section Smalldickproblems.

Female anatomy variance:
There is not really female anatomy variance. The variance is miniscule. Females are able to take big penises in general.

Cold weather freezing of flaccid skin flap:
I do not really get this one. This is again more so a problem for small penises.


Having a big penis is not a problem. There is not one single problem.

That's not even what the thread you link claimed:

It is the correct thread. @AdolfRizzler elaborated on it really well.

I don't agree with that thought sequence. If the nerve endings are spread across a larger area, that means the most highly concentrated pleasure parts are at times untouched by a long stoke while a short shaft always the glans and frenu being touched.

For example:
Why bigger usually feels better when masturbating


  • More nerve endings are stimulated at once. The penis has about 4,000 nerve endings, mostly concentrated in the glans and frenulum, but the shaft has them too. A longer and especially thicker shaft means your hand covers and stimulates more surface area with every stroke.
  • Fuller grip sensation. Most guys subconsciously grip with a full hand. With a thicker penis that grip feels “filled out,” which creates more pressure and friction → more pleasure. Guys with below-average girth (under ~4.5–4.8 inches circumference) often say their hand feels “loose” or they have to use unusual grips.
  • Longer stroke length. A 7–8 inch penis lets you do full-length strokes from base to tip, which hits more of the internal structures (like the suspensory ligament area and the inner part of the corpora cavernosa) that smaller penises can’t reach as easily with the same hand motion.
  • Prostate stimulation is easier. When a guy is well-endowed he can more easily angle the head to press against the rectum/prostate during certain positions (e.g. lying on back, hips raised), adding a second pleasure source.

Why bigger usually feels better during partnered sex​


  1. More friction and pressure on the shaftThe vagina (especially when aroused and not super wet) creates a tight ring of pressure. A thicker penis gets more of its sensitive shaft skin dragged and compressed with every thrust → stronger sensation. Multiple studies and thousands of self-reports show girth above ~5.2–5.5 inches circumference is where most men start saying “I can really feel her gripping me the whole way.”
  2. Deeper penetration hits internal erectile tissueThe inner third of the corpora cavernosa (the “legs” that extend inside the body) has nerve endings too. Longer penises stimulate those structures more with each full stroke.
  3. Her reactions amplify your pleasure psychologicallyWhen she moans louder, gets wetter, orgasms easier or more intensely because of your size, that feedback loop makes the sex feel way better for you too. This is a huge factor most guys with 7×5.5+ report.
 
true, atleast if i would have had a big dick i could go and pay a prostitute to have sex with, but with my size not even jerking off isn t good :feelscry: :cryfeels:
 
There is no "evidence" of that. Having a big penis is not a problem. Having a big penis is a blessing. If men with big penises say they have "problems", they are lying about it. They are not only humblebragging because they are not humble about it, they are just bragging about it. They are bragging about having a big penis. That is all. There are no problems.
Ridiculous to claim this while at the same time relying on anon posted anecdotes as evidence for the supposed benefits of a big penis.
Why would not it make sense? @AdolfRizzler and also @St3v3Cel covered that why it does make sense. @AdolfRizzler made an entire thread about that specifically.

@St3v3Cel elaborated on it really well and also pointed out to the thread:
As I already wrote, that thought process is wrong. Anyone claiming the shaft produces more pleasure than the glans is wrong. That's why that entire thread is about trying to logically deduce the superiority of a long penis because they have no other explanation for why it came to be, but I offered that with the pump action theory.

So, I will just ask once more. I am not going into anyhting specific. I am just aksing in general here:
If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

You tried to make it specific, yet I already said that I will not make it specific but ask in general. If yo udo not want to answer, that is fine. This is why I asked what men in general would choose. I am just asking in general here without anything specific.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
Your use of "blessing" earlier makes me think you might have a religious background, so you think body parts are designed by some unseen creator or something rather than naturally selected adaptations inseparable from environment. If I lived on the cold Eurasian Steppe of Kazakhstan, I would want a dicklet like that population group ended up with being in that environment. If I lived in the raping Congo, I would need a big penis to have any chance at impregnation through sexual competition. Like I said, that is not even an environment I want to be in.
 
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It is just puzzling. Like I said to you before, the only explanation I have for this is sadism. They take joy in making us so frustrated that we want to bash our heads against the wall. "Bigger is better" is not some revolutionary concept. It does not get more simple and intuitive than that, and that is exactly what they play on. They have malicious intent all around.

It has to be malicious intent at this point.

ou are right that I made an mistake there.

You made a mistake? It is the correct thread is not it? I even quoted from it.

Can you explain why you deny the dickpill so vehemently?

I do not really understand why there are so many on here who talk against it so vehemtnly. I think it is like you said. It has to be malicious intent.
 
You made a mistake? It is the correct thread is not it? I even quoted from it.
It was only a technical mistake. I accidentally said that the bigger penis one has the more pleasure receivers one has, which is not what the thread claimed. But it is the thread I meant to send, it explains how men with big penises get more pleasure.
 
Ridiculous to claim this while at the same time relying on anon posted anecdotes as evidence for the supposed benefits of a big penis.

What anecdotes are you even talking about? Like your anecdotes why it would be a "problem" to have a big penis?

Your use of "blessing" earlier makes me think you might have a religious background, so you think body parts are designed by some unseen creator or something rather than naturally selected adaptations inseparable from environment.

No, this is also not what I said.

@St3v3Cel look at that. Now is trying to make it religious.

If I lived on the cold Eurasian Steppe of Kazakhstan, I would want a dicklet like that population group ended up without from that environment. If I lived in the raping Congo, I would need a big penis to have any chance at impregnation through sexual competition. Like I said, that is not even an environment I want to be in.

I will asked once more:
If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

You tried to make it specific, yet I already said that I will not make it specific but ask in general. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. This is why I asked what men in general would choose. I am just asking in general here without anything specific.
 
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Are you forgetting that women were made to deliver children? All normal women can and do take big penises. There are almost no women with vaginismus or similar. Those that do have surgeries so that they can take big penises:
No one is "made" they are a collection of genes adapted to a specific environment. East Asian women often have small hips relative to Caucasian baby skulls, so C-sections are the method of birth for nearly all Hapas. The female being adapted for pregnancy does not mean she is adapted for all pregnancies. Just as average faces are an advantage because they appeal to a broad breath of people, so does an average penis combine the mix of traits that characterize penis function. Like I said, imagine a Bosnian gang rape. Which penis would you expect to have the advantage in creating a pregnancy? It's like asking the same question as who would pump out the most sperm. The ability to pull out more volume with fewer pumps is an advantage, but so is go for longer, having more semen, and so forth.

Can you explain why you deny the dickpill so vehemently? Do you feel physical pleasure from your penis? Do you deny that women value big penises?
It's cope. The perception of big dick superiority is a way to further feel a loser in the pair bonding efforts incels already are excluded from. The idea that the sex havers are also all hung is a way for a small dick incel to rationalize the exclusion by subtracting more points from the gentials to allow for more points somewhere else, like face.
 
I will asked once more:
You seem incapable of accepting different physical attributes being beneficial for different environments and situations. Your rhetorical question is really, "would you want a big penis to be more sexually competitive" and I keep answering that being sexually competitive among the promiscuous holes is not what I am seeking, I have to defer to other pros and cons of that physical trait.
 
As I already wrote, that thought process is wrong. Anyone claiming the shaft produces more pleasure than the glans is wrong. That's why that entire thread is about trying to logically deduce the superiority of a long penis because they have no other explanation for why it came to be, but I offered that with the pump action theory.

I think this was about that:
It was only a technical mistake. I accidentally said that the bigger penis one has the more pleasure receivers one has, which is not what the thread claimed. But it is the thread I meant to send, it explains how men with big penises get more pleasure.

Seems to be some technical mistake here. This must be the correct thread and I also quoted the correct parts of it as well.

because they have no other explanation for why it came to be, but I offered that with the pump action theory.

This thread is not specifically about to how it came to be. This would be for another thread. You gave a possible explanation to it and also a theory. I did acknowledge that and I also enagaged with it.
 
You seem incapable of accepting different physical attributes being beneficial for different environments and situations. Your rhetorical question is really, "would you want a big penis to be more sexually competitive" and I keep answering that being sexually competitive among the promiscuous holes is not what I am seeking, I have to defer to other pros and cons of that physical trait.

You seem to be incapable of answering a simple question.

I will asked once more:
If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear but I will answer. Every man would choose the 9 inch penis.

You tried to make it specific, yet I already said that I will not make it specific but ask in general. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. This is why I asked what men in general would choose. I am just asking in general here without anything specific.
 
I wish i had a 24cm dick.
it would mog so hard.
Imagine even if i would still be incel with that jerking off would feel much better.
I could buy sexdolls and the sex would mog
Any maybe just maybe i could even hire a prostitute
masturbating would feel the same or worse because you would need a lot more stimulation
 
Okay, so answer to this question. Would u agree with statement that being tall in netherlands is very important and needed for a men, bc there is so much competition, but there is no reason to be tall in southeast asia, especially for monogamous relationship, bc everyone is short.
Dutch are tall because long legs are a trait of flat land peoples, like the Sudanese living in the flat Sudd, while Georgians and Chechens have short gorilla legs for mountain walking. To talk about height in Southeast Asia would have to be specific to some goal. If the goal was to have a sexual display to attract females, height would be an advantage. For the specific task of cave diving to rescue some kids, physically short Europeans were best adapted for the goal.

Whitecavedivers
 
It's cope.

How?

The perception of big dick superiority is a way to further feel a loser in the pair bonding efforts incels already are excluded from.

Is one a loser because he does not have the looks? Is one a loser because he does not have the height? Furthermore, is one a loser if he does not have the penis size? What I am trying to get at is this. It just describes what is. This is why I also used a very simplistic hypothetical. In regards to penis size. Nobody wants to have a small penis. No man wants to have a small penis. Having a big penis is superior.

The idea that the sex havers are also all hung is a way for a small dick incel to rationalize the exclusion by subtracting more points from the gentials to allow for more points somewhere else, like face.

This is not what we insinuate. You also bring in another trait and furthermore a distribution of points. You do not want to engage with a simple hypothetical, yet here you are doing this.

Dutch are tall because long legs are a trait of flat land peoples, like the Sudanese living in the flat Sudd, while Georgians and Chechens have short gorilla legs for mountain walking. To talk about height in Southeast Asia would have to be specific to some goal. If the goal was to have a sexual display to attract females, height would be an advantage. For the specific task of cave diving to rescue some kids, physically short Europeans were best adapted for the goal.

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This was not his question:
Would u agree with statement that being tall in netherlands is very important and needed for a men

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
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@vic624
Let me ask you this: What is it that you desire most? What I desire most is sexual pleasure. I think that sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life. And like I have explained to you, men with small penises can not have physical sexual pleasure. All the sexual pleasure men with small penises can get is from their imagination, and it is not much. Again, some can not even muster that. Even though we cannot have it we still desire it. It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel. Even if you are skeptical about men with small penises not being able to get physical pleasure on a theoretical basis you cannot deny our subjective experiences.
 
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This is not what we insinuate. You also bring in another trait and furthermore a distribution of point. You do not want to engage with a simple hypothetical, yet here you are doing this.
It's not a hypothetical if it is what I am saying is happening in physical reality. Incels shield their pride from looks shame behind the idea that it never began because of dick size.
This was not his question:
@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
I responded by explaining that there is no universal use case. Dutch people are generally tall, but the existence of short Dutch men shows that obviously how "very important" height is to a Dutch man is relative to the use case. The biggest advantage of height for men is perceived dominance among men. If the use case is seeking validation from females, then face would be more relevant regardless of the average overall height. That's what face being most important means.

@vic624
Let me ask you this: What is it that you desire most? What I desire most is sexual pleasure. I think that sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life. And like I have explained to you, men with small penises can not have physical sexual pleasure. All the sexual pleasure men with small penises can get is from their imagination, and it is not much. Again, some can not even muster that. Even though we cannot have it we still desire it. It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel. Even if you are skeptical about men with small penises not being able to get physical pleasure on a theoretical basis you cannot deny our subjective experiences.
When really thirsty, you fantasize about cold drinks, not cold drinks delivered by a willing hole. What I want more than anything is long term security of some level of resources for subsistence. I would not consider it the pinnacle of life to be a wandering hobo slaying various random hostel holes with his infamous long dong.
 
Dutch are tall because long legs are a trait of flat land peoples, like the Sudanese living in the flat Sudd, while Georgians and Chechens have short gorilla legs for mountain walking. To talk about height in Southeast Asia would have to be specific to some goal. If the goal was to have a sexual display to attract females, height would be an advantage. For the specific task of cave diving to rescue some kids, physically short Europeans were best adapted for the goal.

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My point is, if we all agree that being tall in europe is needed and very very important, then why it wouldnt be very very important in southeast asia? U said that having big penis is required to compete sexually for women in promiscious society, then why it wouldnt be very important in less promiscious societies, like u said euroasian steepe societies? It would be even more important in those less promiscious societies, beacause u would get worshipped for having that big of a penis there.
 
My point is, if we all agree that being tall in europe is needed and very very important, then why it wouldnt be very very important in southeast asia? U said that having big penis is required to compete sexually for women in promiscious society, then why it wouldnt be very important in less promiscious societies, like u said euroasian steepe societies? It would be even more important in those less promiscious societies, beacause u would get worshipped for having that big of a penis there.
So clearly nature selected for smaller penises despite the potential reproductive advantage they could get from a bigger penis. I myself have never seen an East Asian penis in porn that was longer that at max 6inches, 16cm. It makes me think that the frozen tundra wind chill that gave East Asians the epicanthal fold adaptation also was a hard cap on penis size else they'd freeze.
 
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@vic624
Let me ask you this: What is it that you desire most? What I desire most is sexual pleasure. I think that sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life. And like I have explained to you, men with small penises can not have physical sexual pleasure. All the sexual pleasure men with small penises can get is from their imagination, and it is not much. Again, some can not even muster that. Even though we cannot have it we still desire it. It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel. Even if you are skeptical about men with small penises not being able to get physical pleasure on a theoretical basis you cannot deny our subjective experiences.

You are also generous here. It is not even subjective because it is the same experience although we are subject to that experiece.

It's not a hypothetical if it is what I am saying is happening in physical reality.

I never said anything about that. But I now understand what you are saying here.

Incels shield their pride from looks shame behind the idea that it never began because of dick size.

Fair enough. I think I get it now. You are basically pointing out that some might use another trait, in this case penis size instead of looks. If this is what you are trying to get at, then I do understand your point. I just want to add, that looks and also penis size works on its own.

I responded by explaining that there is no universal use case. Dutch people are generally tall, but the existence of short Dutch men shows that obviously how "very important" height is to a Dutch man is relative to the use case. The biggest advantage of height for men is perceived dominance among men. If the use case is seeking validation from females, then face would be more relevant regardless of the average overall height. That's what face being most important means.

That was not his question.
 
I'd rather improve my face and height tbh. Your dick size only becomes a problem once you actually GET a foid. I could have the biggest dick in the world and it wouldn't matter since I'd never even get to the point where I could show them.
 
That was not his question.
His question didn't include a use case except "being a man" which obviously is not dependent on height unless using a holes voice to describe men.
 
When really thirsty, you fantasize about cold drinks, not cold drinks delivered by a willing hole. What I want more than anything is long term security of some level of resources for subsistence. I would not consider it the pinnacle of life to be a wandering hobo slaying various random hostel holes with his infamous long dong.
I do not understand what you are trying to say. Tell me in plain language what it is you desire most. Depending on what it is I might be able to explain why sexual pleasure is my ultimate desire more clearly to you. If you don't want to talk about it that is also fine, we can agree to disagree.
 
His question didn't include a use case except "being a man" which obviously is not dependent on height unless using a holes voice to describe men.

It does not have to include that. He asked a simple general question:
Would u agree with statement that being tall in netherlands is very important and needed for a men
 
I'd rather improve my face and height tbh. Your dick size only becomes a problem once you actually GET a foid. I could have the biggest dick in the world and it wouldn't matter since I'd never even get to the point where I could show them.

@St3v3Cel
 
Fair enough. I think I get it now. You are basically pointing out that some might use another trait, in this case penis size instead of looks. If this is what you are trying to get at, then I do understand your point. I just want to add, that looks and also penis size works on its own.
They can both be part of a humiliation fetish. It's like cuckolds who go on about the hung bull having sex with their wife. The arousal comes from the idea that if a wife turns sexually promiscuous, the smaller dick of the husband "can't compete" which justifies the cheating.
Reminds of some image I saw on a tube site once, that I thought showed the absurdity.
Cuckfetishabsurd
No one really thinks the nigger or the holes are the best suited to do anything. If some fire broke out they'd all defer to the self-identifying cuck. Therefore saying the hung nigger is more masculine only is as true as long as being specific to a certain sexual scenario.
I do not understand what you are trying to say. Tell me in plain language what it is you desire most. Depending on what it is I might be able to explain why sexual pleasure is my ultimate desire more clearly to you. If you don't want to talk about it that is also fine, we can agree to disagree.
I was pointing out that your "thirst" as it were for sexual connections is only the most important of your not currently met needs and desires. There are more basic things that give more persistent pleasure. Even the most extreme meth induced sex crazed horniess wouldn't be more desired than a place to have those escapades. I was saying that living a life devoted to sex having would not be fulfilling most of the time.
 
It does not have to include that. He asked a simple general question:
Taken as a simple question it's dumb, because obviously short Dutch males exist. Like I said, the language reminds of cuckolds with inferring hole desired traits are what makes "a real man." It's a simp perspective that doesn't even make sense since this is a forum of men who all consider themselves men despite lack of hole approval.
 
They can both be part of a humiliation fetish. It's like cuckolds who go on about the hung bull having sex with their wife. The arousal comes from the idea that if a wife turns sexually promiscuous, the smaller dick of the husband "can't compete" which justifies the cheating.
Reminds of some image I saw on a tube site once, that I thought showed the absurdity.

That is SPH.

No one really thinks the nigger or the holes are the best suited to do anything. If some fire broke out they'd all defer to the self-identifying cuck. Therefore saying the hung nigger is more masculine only is as true as long as being specific to a certain sexual scenario.

So? He still has the superior trait. Men in general still would choose the 9 inch penis over of the 4.5 inch penis.

I was pointing out that your "thirst" as it were for sexual connections is only the most important of your not currently met needs and desires.

I know you put "thirst" in " ", it is still not a "thirst". It is a mere observation. I always wanted to have a big penis. Even when I was young. Even when I was just a boy, when I was 5 years old.

There are more basic things that give more persistent pleasure.

No.

Even the most extreme meth induced sex crazed horniess wouldn't be more desired than a place to have those escapades. I was saying that living a life devoted to sex having would not be fulfilling most of the time.

Having coitus is the ultimate thing. It is the pinnacle of life.

Taken as a simple question it's dumb, because obviously short Dutch males exist. Like I said, the language reminds of cuckolds with inferring hole desired traits are what makes "a real man." It's a simp perspective that doesn't even make sense since this is a forum of men who all consider themselves men despite lack of hole approval.

And you still just refuse to simply engage with it.
 
I was saying that living a life devoted to sex having would not be fulfilling most of the time.
To some degree I agree with that. I cope with believing things similar to that. I will never get to experience what that is like so there is no way for me to truly know. That coitus and sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life is simply my belief. I think that sex is what should give us all the pleasure, joy and meaning we need in our lives.
 
To some degree I agree with that. I cope with believing things similar to that. I will never get to experience what that is like so there is no way for me to truly know. That coitus and sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life is simply my belief. I think that sex is what should give us all the pleasure, joy and meaning we need in our lives.

You are really generous once more. Coitus is the pinnacle of life. It is all about that.
 
To some degree I agree with that. I cope with believing things similar to that. I will never get to experience what that is like so there is no way for me to truly know. That coitus and sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life is simply my belief. I think that sex is what should give us all the pleasure, joy and meaning we need in our lives.
Well I've escorted and had enough public interactions that I would need three things to have the ultimate sexual experience
  • she is objectively healthy
  • she has a floral scent
  • she is physically attracted to me
Like if I somehow got two of the three I wouldn't be happiest as will all. Even a healthy hole attracted to me would not necessarily include the elusive floral scent I've only encountered with a few holes met in public.
 
More men-are-expendable cuck language. I think your perspective is obvious now.

And here we go. What is the "men-are-expendable cuck language" here? Also, you say my "perspective" is obvious now? Really? Go and steelman it.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
And here we go. What is the "men-are-expendable cuck language" here? Also, you say my "perspective" is obvious now? Really? Go and steelman it.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
Saying pairing with a hole is the defining desire of life. It's like reducing men to not even human but males on the level of spiders or bee drones.
 
You are really generous once more. Coitus is the pinnacle of life. It is all about that.
I am still convinced that coitus with a big penis is the most likely thing to be the pinnacle of life. Attempting to doubt that is simply what keeps the gun out of my hands, so to speak.
Saying pairing with a hole is the defining desire of life. It's like reducing men to not even human but males on the level of spiders or bee drones.
What is so wrong about that? What would you say the pinnacle of life is? What were we set here to do? You still did not really answer what it is you desire most. If you are not comfortable talking about that, just say so.
 
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