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I wish i had a 24cm dick

Well I've escorted and had enough public interactions that I would need three things to have the ultimate sexual experience
  • she is objectively healthy
  • she has a floral scent
  • she is physically attracted to me
Like if I somehow got two of the three I wouldn't be happiest as will all. Even a healthy hole attracted to me would not necessarily include the elusive floral scent I've only encountered with a few holes met in public.

I call coitus the pinnacle of life and here you are saying that you have "escorted". Then you call me a cuck?

Saying pairing with a hole is the defining desire of life. It's like reducing men to not even human but males on the level of spiders or bee drones.

How and why does that follow? Also, you did not steelman.
 
To some degree I agree with that. I cope with believing things similar to that. I will never get to experience what that is like so there is no way for me to truly know. That coitus and sexual pleasure is the pinnacle of life is simply my belief. I think that sex is what should give us all the pleasure, joy and meaning we need in our lives.
Sex and loyalty. Thats what i want from women and in life. These 2 things are the most important. Without having a big penis, good height and looks i wont be able to get that, simply.
 
Saying pairing with a hole is the defining desire of life. It's like reducing men to not even human but males on the level of spiders or bee drones.

You talk about "pairing". You also said this:
As for myself, I can tell you as an incel non-participant in the sex carousal, and as someone who wants monogamous pair bonding

You want "monogamous pair bonding".

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
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You talk about "pairing". You alsosaid this:


You want "monogamous pair bonding".

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
He really is not making much sense.
 
Saying pairing with a hole is the defining desire of life. It's like reducing men to not even human but males on the level of spiders or bee drones.
I dont want to „pair with a hole” just for a sake of it. I want to dominate her, i want her to obey completely to me. I want to own her. I want to be her king. I want to have power. I want her to worship me. She should beg me for sex with me.
In my opinion, sex is a part of a whole existence of a man, of control. With big penis u make her obedient to u, she will always remember that moment when u fucked the shit out of her with ur big penis. That memory in her head makes her yours forever, especially if shes was virgin.
 
I call coitus the pinnacle of life and here you are saying that you have "escorted". Then you call me a cuck?
I escorted after having being able to afford it and thinking like you do now that sex itself is desirable but it really isn't enough. It needs to be a specific kind of sex and not getting that is the specific incel characteristic. This is why escortmaxing doesn't mean ascending.
How and why does that follow? Also, you did not steelman.
I mean, do I really need to repeat back to how why saying the pinnacle of life is sex but sex isn't pleasurable unless you got the genetic trait of a big penis reduces the value of most men?

You talk about "pairing". You also said this:
You want "monogamous pair bonding".

Yes, and you said
Coitus is the pinnacle of life. It is all about that.
How could it possibly be "all about that?" Are you claiming the homeless guy who knocked up those teens as part of a pregnancy pact (link) was living his best life? LMAO what the hell are you serious? That is 100% foid worship.

He really is not making much sense.
I differentiated exclusive access to a hole versus general use of a hole where comparison to other men is more relevant. It's not complicated.
 
With big penis u make her obedient to u
That's just a verbatim cuckold fantasy. What makes her obedient is a society that enforces her status as a legal possession, called property. That is less needed the more attracted she is the legally defined possessor, but we've seen infinite Tom Brady tier examples of even Chad not being enough because the society is fem-centric.
 
I differentiated exclusive access to a hole versus general use of a hole where comparison to other men is more relevant. It's not complicated.
You need to get to the point. Answer these questions so that we can really know what is you are trying to say:
What is so wrong about that? What would you say the pinnacle of life is? What were we set here to do? You still did not really answer what it is you desire most. If you are not comfortable talking about that, just say so.
 
I escorted after having being able to afford it and thinking like you do now that sex itself is desirable but it really isn't enough. It needs to be a specific kind of sex and not getting that is the specific incel characteristic. This is why escortmaxing doesn't mean ascending.

Is coitus desirable or not?

I mean, do I really need to repeat back to how why saying the pinnacle of life is sex but sex isn't pleasurable unless you got the genetic trait of a big penis reduces the value of most men?

You did not make a point to begin with. The problem here in that regard are not even men. I never made the claim. This is you thinking like that. You still did not steelman.

Yes, and you said

So what?

How could it possibly be "all about that?"

There is nothing else. It is all about having coitus.

Are you claiming the homeless guy who knocked up those teens as part of a pregnancy pact (link) was living his best life? LMAO what the hell are you serious?

Are you seriously lookig up some specific single case? You also to forgot to include this part:
"Some of the girls reacted to the news they were pregnant with high fives and plans for baby showers, Sullivan said. One of the fathers "is a 24-year-old homeless guy," Sullivan told the magazine. Others were boys in the school."

Other were boys in the school.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer

That is 100% foid worship.

Saying it is female worship while you are the one who "escorted".
 
What would you say the pinnacle of life is? What were we set here to do? You still did not really answer what it is you desire most. If you are not comfortable talking about that, just say so.
I consider the most important part of life to be alive, and the general comfort of persisting through that life being the most important objective. To say otherwise would be to claim that those suicidal MGTOWs truly won at life because at least they were able to have a taste of sex.
Saying it is female worship while you are the one who "escorted".
I told you why I don't recommend escorting and why it was not fulfilling. Anyone who falls into the thinking that it is fulfilling would be following your train of thought that sex is everything. I am giving a warning that is wrong.

Are you seriously lookig up some specific single case? You also to forgot to include this part:
"Some of the girls reacted to the news they were pregnant with high fives and plans for baby showers, Sullivan said. One of the fathers "is a 24-year-old homeless guy," Sullivan told the magazine. Others were boys in the school."

Other were boys in the school.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
Not the point of the link. You said and keep saying "coitus is everything" in which case you should be envious of that 24-year old homeless guy. I'm calling that out and saying you would never agree to switch places any sex haver.
 
That's just a verbatim cuckold fantasy.

How? How would that even be a cuckold fantasy?

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer

What makes her obedient is a society that enforces her status as a legal possession, called property.

"Society". @GeckoBus made a good thread about that.
 
How? How would that even be a cuckold fantasy?
"Society". @GeckoBus made a good thread about that.
Civilization is the set of civil administration that governs a group of people. Without holes being property according to civil authorities, any claim of possession can be lost. In order to meet my desires there would need to be a predictable reason to believe a hole was under my control, and imagining she'd be addicted to the long dong is literally what cuckolds write about for why their wife is cheating on them.
 
How? How would that even be a cuckold fantasy?
The cuckold reality is having a small penis. You have no other option than to be a cuck. Whatever he said is pure projection and virtue signalling
 
The cuckold reality is having a small penis. You have no other option than to be a cuck. Whatever he said is pure projection and virtue signalling
LMAO not it isn't. It's having a smallER penis relative to the supposed bull she's really attracted to. The fetish is not celebrating a small penis lol what nonsense.
 
How can you tell ?
just think about it. if you had a 10 inch dick you probably would need both hands and lot of pressure to feel something. 4-6 inch dicks mog pleasure wise.
 
LMAO not it isn't. It's having a smallER penis relative to the supposed bull she's really attracted to. The fetish is not celebrating a small penis lol what nonsense.
I have better things to do than read your absolute nonsense. Go cut your dick off then if it truly doesn't matter. Why haven' you done that by now then if having a big penis is irrelevant and doesn't give you a lot of benefits?
 
I have better things to do than read your absolute nonsense. Go cut your dick off then if it truly doesn't matter. Why haven' you done that by now then if having a big penis is irrelevant and doesn't give you a lot of benefits?
Why didn't I cut off my anatomy if I wasn't born with the the type of penis adored by cuckolds. Oh gee what a wonder. Please indeed fuck off.
 
I told you why I don't recommend escorting and why it was not fulfilling.

Anyone who falls into the thinking that it is fulfilling would be following your train of thought that sex is everything.

After you participated in it.

I am giving a warning that is wrong.

Then why did you need to indulge in it in the first place?

Not the point of the link.

Then your link is insignificant which it is.

You said and keep saying "coitus is everything" in which case you should be envious of that 24-year old homeless guy.

So?

I'm calling that out and saying you would never agree to switch places any sex haver.

You just went to Google to find some very specific case in order to "call me out". You are talking about "switching places". You did this before by adding traits like looks and then talk about a distribution. You could also ask me this. There is someone who is missing a finger or who is missing a hand and then ask me if I want to switch palces with him. Or you could ask me this. There is someone who had coitus before but he is now really ill and bound to the hospital for life. You also again dismissed the other boys in school. Also, that even someone who is homeless has coitus is not really going to help you here. Nothing of it negates what I said.

Civilization is the set of civil administration that governs a group of people. Without holes being property according to civil authorities, any claim of possession can be lost. In order to meet my desires there would need to be a predictable reason to believe a hole was under my control, and imagining she'd be addicted to the long dong is literally what cuckolds write about for why their wife is cheating on them.

So, how would that even be cuckold fantasy:
I dont want to „pair with a hole” just for a sake of it. I want to dominate her, i want her to obey completely to me. I want to own her. I want to be her king. I want to have power. I want her to worship me. She should beg me for sex with me.
In my opinion, sex is a part of a whole existence of a man, of control. With big penis u make her obedient to u, she will always remember that moment when u fucked the shit out of her with ur big penis. That memory in her head makes her yours forever, especially if shes was virgin.
 
Why didn't I cut off my anatomy if I wasn't born with the the type of penis adored by cuckolds. Oh gee what a wonder. Please indeed fuck off.
Your points have already been refuted. There is absolutely no reason to take anything that you say seriously.
 
just think about it. if you had a 10 inch dick you probably would need both hands and lot of pressure to feel something. 4-6 inch dicks mog pleasure wise.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
Why didn't I cut off my anatomy if I wasn't born with the the type of penis adored by cuckolds. Oh gee what a wonder. Please indeed fuck off.

That also would not follow. I will make a case where it would follow. If someone has a big penis and he states that he wants a smaller penis then wants to remove inches. So saying, why not just cut it off would follow or a follow up as reply to what he said. Someone who has a small penis but wants a big penis wants to add inches and not remove them.
 
The cuckold reality is having a small penis. You have no other option than to be a cuck. Whatever he said is pure projection and virtue signalling

LMAO not it isn't. It's having a smallER penis relative to the supposed bull she's really attracted to. The fetish is not celebrating a small penis lol what nonsense.

He never said that a small penis is celebrated.
 
Then why did you need to indulge in it in the first place?
To explain why sex is not everything as you keep saying.
You just went to Google to find some very specific case in order to "call me out". You are talking about "switching places". You did this before by adding traits like looks and then talk about a distribution. You could also ask me this. There is someone who is missing a finger or who is missing a hand and then ask me if I want to switch palces with him. Or you could ask me this. There is someone who had coitus before but he is now really ill and bound to the hospital for life. You also again dismissed the other boys in school. Also, that even someone who is homeless has coitus is not really going to help you here. Nothing of it negates what I said.
So why don't you just say, yes, I would trade places with any sex haver no matter his situation because just experiencing sex is the pinnacle of existence?
That also would not follow. I will make a case where it would follow. If someone has a big penis and he states that he wants a smaller penis then wants to remove inches. So saying, why not just cut it off would follow or a follow up as reply to what he said. Someone who has a small penis but wants a big penis wants to add inches and not remove them.
That doesn't follow at all. No sane person gives penis this much attention outside of people with a fetish for that body part, who as I already explained are cuckolds among heterosexual men. You are indeed a cuckold because you define yourself as inferior to other men by metrics only you claim are important.
 
To explain why sex is not everything as you keep saying.

The reason why you are here. The very reason you escorted. The reason why I am here is because of that very thing. There reason why this forum exist. The reason people are talking about it, engaging in it. It is all because of it.

So why don't you just say, yes,

Why do not you say yes to my simple questions? Why not say 9 inches? You never even engaged in it. I on the other hand did engage.

I would trade places with any sex haver no matter his situation because just experiencing sex is the pinnacle of existence?

Some specific case or outliers do not negate what I said. Exceptions prove the rule not the other way around.

How about you now engage with what I asked you multiple times? But you will not do that, right?

That doesn't follow at all.

How?

No sane person gives penis this much attention outside of people with a fetish for that body part, who as I already explained are cuckolds among heterosexual men.

That does not follow.

You are indeed a cuckold because you define yourself as inferior to other men by metrics only you claim are important.

That does not follow either. Would you say that you are inferior because of your looks? Would you say you are inferior in regards to other traits? If I say I am inferior in regards to another trait, then this is just a mere observation. It is not a claim that I made up.

So, how would that even be a cuckold fantasy?

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
How about you now engage with what I asked you multiple times? But you will not do that, right?
I gave extensive explanations on why a hypothetical with no parameters is pointless. [As I already said] If I had a 9 inch penis but lived in Siberia I would be at a disadvantage. If I was involved among tropical promiscuity it would be good to have a bigger competitive pump.

At no point have you deviated from your "big dick is magic" premise of that being the most important trait for the pinnacle of life experience of copulation. Just because I am incel does not mean I have to believe a hole's touch is the most important thing to being alive. That is why I earlier said it sounds like simping. "Please touch me goddess to make me whole." Pathetic.

That does not follow either. Would you say that you are inferior because of your looks? Would you say you are inferior in regards to other traits? If I say I am inferior in regards to another trait, then this is just a mere observation. It is not a claim that I made up.

So, how would that even be a cuckold fantasy?
Looks are the determining trait that defines inceldom, but that's not what you said. You literally said verbatim that "having a big penis is a prerequisite" to being a sex haver which has no basis, so sounds exactly like a cuckold saying he could never satisfy any hole. I never heard cuckolds say they lost their hotwife to a looksmaxxing model. The fantasy is always about dick. The dick insecurity comes from any multiple-male sex competition. It's completely irrelevant to possessing an exclusive hole, which is not possible in modern legal structure.
 
I think that if you wish to have a big cock as a small cock haver you are a cuckold. Manlet Pride Worldwide. Dickcel pride worldwide. :reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee:
 
To explain why sex is not everything as you keep saying.

So why don't you just say, yes, I would trade places with any sex haver no matter his situation because just experiencing sex is the pinnacle of existence?

That doesn't follow at all. No sane person gives penis this much attention outside of people with a fetish for that body part, who as I already explained are cuckolds among heterosexual men. You are indeed a cuckold because you define yourself as inferior to other men by metrics only you claim are important.
We dont praise here people with big penises. WE want to have a big penis and it was taken away from us from the moment we were born.
By talking about penispill, we warn people, that in case when they magiclly have a chance to „ascend” in future, if they have small penis, they will make fools of themselves.
It is better to prevent experiencing trauma from women talking and laughting about ur small penis.
 
We dont praise here people with big penises. WE want to have a big penis and it was taken away from us from the moment we were born.
By talking about penispill, we warn people, that in case when they magiclly have a chance to „ascend” in future, if they have small penis, they will make fools of themselves.
It is better to prevent experiencing trauma from women talking and laughting about ur small penis.
Big penises are rare, almost non-existent among three billion rice. Obviously there is some limiting factor to their length else there at least be some representation among 20cm+ by East Asians but it's never been witnessed. I gave the hypothesis that it was related to a cold environment, but the bigger point is humans are not adapted to maximizing penis length.
 
I gave extensive explanations on why a hypothetical with no parameters is pointless.

And I again explained to you that is is a simple hypothetical scenario. One does not need to be more specific about that. It is in general.

[As I already said] If I had a 9 inch penis but lived in Siberia I would be at a disadvantage

If I was involved among tropical promiscuity it would be good to have a bigger competitive pump.

I know. You stated something similar before. Ultimately you do at least agree to some extend. But again, this is not what I asked. I asked a simple hypothetical question. There are just 2 answers to it. I will ask again:
If you would have the option to choose, what would you choose. Having 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis. The answer to it is clear. If you do not want to answer, that is fine. It is just a rhetorical question. I will not make it specific but I will ask in general. If men are able to choose, what would they choose. Having a 4.5 inch penis or having a 9 inch penis?

I want to be clear. I again understand your specifics here and I also do acknowledge it. Now, how about you also engage with this simple hypothetical? Nothing more and nothing less.

At no point have you deviated from your "big dick is magic" premise of that being the most important trait for the pinnacle of life experience of copulation.

Why would I deviate from it?

Just because I am incel does not mean I have to believe a hole's touch is the most important thing to being alive.

But you have to be honest here. It was at least somewhat important or at least important enough that you indulged in escorting. Again, I am not calling you out on it, I am just stating it. So, at the very least, you put some significance on it at least in the past.

That is why I earlier said it sounds like simping. "Please touch me goddess to make me whole." Pathetic.

Nobody said that but you.

Looks are the determining trait that defines inceldom, but that's not what you said.

I do not disagree with that. I never did. All of the sudden you are able to come to the conclusion when it is about looks but not when it is about other traits. Now you just acknowledge looks as it is.

You literally said verbatim that "having a big penis is a prerequisite" to being a sex haver

It is a prerequisite. I am also able to explain how and why that is. I made an IF THEN ELSE logic explaining it. I will briefly go over it. It is a simple IF-ELSE IF:

IF hasGoodLooks == true THEN
outcome = true
ELSE
IF hasBigPenis == true THEN
outcome = true
ELSE
outcome = false
END IF
END IF

Both work perfectly fine as it is.

which has no basis

It has a grounded basis. @St3v3Cel also went over this.

so sounds exactly like a cuckold saying he could never satisfy any hole.

This is again something you came up with.

I never heard cuckolds say they lost their hotwife to a looksmaxxing model. The fantasy is always about dick.

That is not a fantasy. It is also not about that. And if you talk about the fantasy or you point out to it, then this is would be cucked and it is SPH. But again, this is something you came up with.

The dick insecurity comes from any multiple-male sex competition.

That is not an "insecurity". "Insecurities" do not exist.

It's completely irrelevant to possessing an exclusive hole, which is not possible in modern legal structure.

It does not follow that it is irrelevant.


For something that basically does not matter we are now at page 3. I have a question about that. If it does not matter to you or if this is nothing but a cope as you said and therefore you at least alluded to it that it does not matter, then why are you so engaged in it? What is your incentive here?

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
My short body would make it look odd
 
I think that if you wish to have a big cock as a small cock haver you are a cuckold. Manlet Pride Worldwide. Dickcel pride worldwide. :reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee:

To wish for a big penis does not make you a cuckold. Dickcel pride worldwide? No, I do not want to have a small penis. No man wants to have a small penis.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
 
But you have to be honest here. It was at least somewhat important or at least important enough that you indulged in escorting. Again, I am not calling you out on it, I am just stating it. So, at the very least, you put some significance on it at least in the past.
So now we've gone from most important to somewhat important. :feelsUgh: Like I said, I escorted and learned that's sex itself is not the goal. That has long been incorporated into the blackpill by escort users else escorting would be considered ascending.
I do not disagree with that. I never did. All of the sudden you are able to come to the conclusion when it is about looks but not when it is about other traits. Now you just acknowledge looks as it is.
I've always said looks are everything. You're saying in the same post that it isn't.
It is a prerequisite. I am also able to explain how and why that is. I made an IF THEN ELSE logic explaining it. I will briefly go over it. It is a simple IF-ELSE IF:

IF hasGoodLooks == true THEN
outcome = true
ELSE
IF hasBigPenis == true THEN
outcome = true
ELSE
outcome = false
END IF
END IF
That's just stupid, sorry. There is no way penis size alone is a valid path to sex having. That's why I made the Benny Hill joke in the beginning. Just think out the steps. How could this possibly happen? Public flashing? Even big penis pornstars like John Holmes had to do a stint in gay porn and the heterosexual scenes were popular among men. Never ever has it been witnessed that a fertile woman was obsessed with an ugly guy with a big penis.
That is not a fantasy. It is also not about that. And if you talk about the fantasy or you point out to it, then this is would be cucked and it is SPH. But again, this is something you came up with.
That would mean every cuck has a small penis but that's not they case. That fetish is specifically about a smallER penis relative to a "hung bull." You're gaslighting.
that it does not matter, then why are you so engaged in it? What is your incentive here?
To not associate the blackpill with cuckold fetishism. There are already too many threads about dicks.
 
To wish for a big penis does not make you a cuckold. Dickcel pride worldwide? No, I do not want to have a small penis. No man wants to have a small penis.

@St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer
most retarded thing I have ever read today from a new user :feelskek: :feelshaha:
 
So now we've gone from most important to somewhat important. :feelsUgh: Like I said, I escorted and learned that's sex itself is not the goal. That has long been incorporated into the blackpill by escort users else escorting would be considered ascending.
Semantic cel can't win the argument so has to go over to semantics to have a point lol
 
consider the most important part of life to be alive, and the general comfort of persisting through that life being the most important objective.
Like I said, I escorted and learned that's sex itself is not the goal.
We have laid all of our cards out on the table but you are still beating around the bush. What brings you comfort and helps you to want to persist? Is there not anything you feel you lack in your life? What is "the goal"?
 
would be cool I guess
 
I consider the most important part of life to be alive, and the general comfort of persisting through that life being the most important objective.
My question is, why are u here then? If u think sex is not THAT important, then why are u here. We are on this site beacause we cant get it. From ur post i see that u already found your reasons to be happy with ur life and u dont bother not having sex that much.
 
Semantic cel can't win the argument so has to go over to semantics to have a point lol
Oh right, so hard to defend looks as more important than fetishizing huge cocks. Consider a more faggot friendly forum.
 
The reason why you are here. The very reason you escorted. The reason why I am here is because of that very thing. There reason why this forum exist. The reason people are talking about it, engaging in it. It is all because of it.
For something that basically does not matter we are now at page 3. I have a question about that. If it does not matter to you or if this is nothing but a cope as you said and therefore you at least alluded to it that it does not matter, then why are you so engaged in it? What is your incentive here?

@
St3v3Cel
@St3v3Cel @
deleted dude
@deleted dude @ M @MoroccanFarmer
Three pages and he still hasn't even gotten to the crux of his argument, despite us repeatedly asking him for it. All he does is criticise us without even once telling us what he thinks we should do, or what he thinks the pinnacle of life is.
 
Oh right, so hard to defend looks as more important than fetishizing huge cocks. Consider a more faggot friendly forum.
a big penis is part of your looks and smv lol @LastGerman @MoroccanFarmer @St3v3Cel
 
My question is, why are u here then? If u think sex is not THAT important, then why are u here. We are on this site beacause we cant get it. From ur post i see that u already found your reasons to be happy with ur life and u dont bother not having sex that much.
Exactly :yes:. This guy is just puzzling.
 
My question is, why are u here then? If u think sex is not THAT important, then why are u here. We are on this site beacause we cant get it. From ur post i see that u already found your reasons to be happy with ur life and u dont bother not having sex that much.
I already explained that living a long comfortable life is my primary goal in existence. In past times that would have been aided by a loyal hole to assist in daily living and sexual bonding. That specifically doesn't exist for me and is the primary source of my incel related anxiety. I don't cope by saying it's ok, I never had a chance because I didn't have a long penis. I mean, really, it's pretty stupid.
a big penis is part of your looks and smv
Wrong. Looks = face, height, shit YOU CAN LOOK AT lmao.
 
Wrong. Looks = face, height, shit YOU CAN LOOK AT lmao.
Whatever makes you sleep at night. Women talking and gossiping about a man having a big penis, like Ariana Grande did with big pete, certainly increases your SMV lol. Women will want to see how big it is, and certainly want to try you out. Having a penis an inch or more bigger than 8 inches is still really rare. If it didn't matter for SMV and didn't count towards your genetic quality and looks from the view of women, they all wouldn't crave a big penis as much and wouldn't hate on small penises. Anyone knows with a brain that women always insult men with small penises everywhere, since women hate men with small penises @LastGerman @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer I won't reply anymore tho since you are just being malicious atp
 

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