There are two main subcultures for player-characters in the West: Conspiracy and Nationalism. I've been waiting for them to merge but it doesn't seem to be happening. There's a bit of overlap of course.
Anyway I thought I'd try going to a local conspiracy group. Note that as I've said before I don't turn up to things like the neckbeard stereotype: massively obese, unshaven, with greasy, unwashed hair, dirty, scruffy, baggy clothes and all that. I do my best with my appearance, come on time, be polite and friendly, do everything in my power to come correct and be accepted.
The first time I went the leader of the group came over. Of course it was a narc / Cluster B / call them what you want, who did what they do, bully/violate etc. you under the guise of normal interaction. I didn't deal with it that well or that badly. You know it's not something that can ever be resolved. Even the best boxer in the world will still get hit by some punches when entering the ring, and how much social experience do you think I have compared to the average person my age, nevermind someone significantly older than me?
Whatever the mechanism is these entities seem to almost always find their way to the top of social pyramids. In very small and irrelevant groups perhaps not, but in anything of any size or significance I would assign the same probability to seeing a Bigfoot heading the group that I would of a good person.
Whenever someone new rolls up they seem to come up and assert their dominance by subtly abusing you immediately. Then your options are use violence and go to prison, be worse back, leave, or take it. Which are all bad options for you. This is the world we live in, ruled by Satan, the Prince of the Power of the Air. Imagine how lonely I am and how much this group meant to me. So I repelled maybe two-thirds of this entity's attacks and ate one third. I think they can tell as soon as they see you somehow that you know about them ('I've got one that can see!'), but in any case it (from now on I'm calling it 'it') would have known from my reaction.
I declined to give my surname or join their WhatsApp group. The fuck am I going to chat about with comparatively normal people on WhatsApp lol? They have an email list by which people are notified of upcoming events though, which I joined. It took about two months? for me to start getting those emails, after I'd checked with the group leader and another group member more than once. I would also get them very late, sometimes ridiculously late, like I would learn about an event at 6pm, at 2pm that day. Assuming I was notified of and read the email immediately, which I wasn't. Sometimes I would read them after the event. Of course the GL didn't respond to my emails about am I on the list, why do you send the emails so late etc. I spoke to it in person, and I don't remember the response but it was just some evasive word salad I suppose. I spoke to a couple of other group members about how late these emails were sent out and they agreed that it was a problem and said it had been mentioned to GL.
Seeing as they were in touch with each other all the time though it didn't inconvenience them.
Of course in hindsight I didn't handle this whole thing well, but again when you're in there this is the reality.
Eventually I just stopped getting the emails. Then I was at a similar event further away, on the turf of a similar but separate group, and GL came up to me and was all friendly like "Oh hi Incel_Doomer, haven't seen you for a while, how's it going? Blah Blah" It held out its hand and automatically I shook the hand and made eye contact and all that. I didn't see it approach so was taken by surprise, and by the time I'd realised it was this entity it was too late, the interaction was already largely over.
After a while I emailed the only member of the group who was slightly friendly to me, to ask whether the group still existed, was everyone else getting the email events etc. and got no reply. Note you would think that a group trying to expose conspiracies and whatnot would advertise itself as widely as possible but it's almost the opposite, they have almost no public internet presence, no posters go up, it's all hush-hush. They asked me how I found out about the group when I first went but I can't remember. Like you have to either be told by someone who already knows, or be pretty deep in that world to hear about it. The way it's kept on the downlow is really suspicious and I can't explain it other than obviously the reason is bad. Likewise if you're not in the group or know someone who is, you have no way of knowing what events there are, when and where.
So that was how I was 'phased out' of the group.
At events generally someone would give a speech, then there would be Q&A. I found it generally impossible to get a word in at the Q&A, even though my questions would have been better than most. In the rare case I was able to get one in, I would just be cut off and overtalked before I'd finished, and not get another chance.
People are like me are disliked if not hated just for who we are. No doubt we'd be killed, perhaps tortured and then killed, if they had a way of doing it without consequences to themselves. Which has been the case in the past on a large scale many times. I mean of course it happens now, but only for small numbers of bigtime people, not the general public.
Anyway I thought I'd try going to a local conspiracy group. Note that as I've said before I don't turn up to things like the neckbeard stereotype: massively obese, unshaven, with greasy, unwashed hair, dirty, scruffy, baggy clothes and all that. I do my best with my appearance, come on time, be polite and friendly, do everything in my power to come correct and be accepted.
The first time I went the leader of the group came over. Of course it was a narc / Cluster B / call them what you want, who did what they do, bully/violate etc. you under the guise of normal interaction. I didn't deal with it that well or that badly. You know it's not something that can ever be resolved. Even the best boxer in the world will still get hit by some punches when entering the ring, and how much social experience do you think I have compared to the average person my age, nevermind someone significantly older than me?
Whatever the mechanism is these entities seem to almost always find their way to the top of social pyramids. In very small and irrelevant groups perhaps not, but in anything of any size or significance I would assign the same probability to seeing a Bigfoot heading the group that I would of a good person.
Whenever someone new rolls up they seem to come up and assert their dominance by subtly abusing you immediately. Then your options are use violence and go to prison, be worse back, leave, or take it. Which are all bad options for you. This is the world we live in, ruled by Satan, the Prince of the Power of the Air. Imagine how lonely I am and how much this group meant to me. So I repelled maybe two-thirds of this entity's attacks and ate one third. I think they can tell as soon as they see you somehow that you know about them ('I've got one that can see!'), but in any case it (from now on I'm calling it 'it') would have known from my reaction.
I declined to give my surname or join their WhatsApp group. The fuck am I going to chat about with comparatively normal people on WhatsApp lol? They have an email list by which people are notified of upcoming events though, which I joined. It took about two months? for me to start getting those emails, after I'd checked with the group leader and another group member more than once. I would also get them very late, sometimes ridiculously late, like I would learn about an event at 6pm, at 2pm that day. Assuming I was notified of and read the email immediately, which I wasn't. Sometimes I would read them after the event. Of course the GL didn't respond to my emails about am I on the list, why do you send the emails so late etc. I spoke to it in person, and I don't remember the response but it was just some evasive word salad I suppose. I spoke to a couple of other group members about how late these emails were sent out and they agreed that it was a problem and said it had been mentioned to GL.
Seeing as they were in touch with each other all the time though it didn't inconvenience them.
Of course in hindsight I didn't handle this whole thing well, but again when you're in there this is the reality.
Eventually I just stopped getting the emails. Then I was at a similar event further away, on the turf of a similar but separate group, and GL came up to me and was all friendly like "Oh hi Incel_Doomer, haven't seen you for a while, how's it going? Blah Blah" It held out its hand and automatically I shook the hand and made eye contact and all that. I didn't see it approach so was taken by surprise, and by the time I'd realised it was this entity it was too late, the interaction was already largely over.
After a while I emailed the only member of the group who was slightly friendly to me, to ask whether the group still existed, was everyone else getting the email events etc. and got no reply. Note you would think that a group trying to expose conspiracies and whatnot would advertise itself as widely as possible but it's almost the opposite, they have almost no public internet presence, no posters go up, it's all hush-hush. They asked me how I found out about the group when I first went but I can't remember. Like you have to either be told by someone who already knows, or be pretty deep in that world to hear about it. The way it's kept on the downlow is really suspicious and I can't explain it other than obviously the reason is bad. Likewise if you're not in the group or know someone who is, you have no way of knowing what events there are, when and where.
So that was how I was 'phased out' of the group.
At events generally someone would give a speech, then there would be Q&A. I found it generally impossible to get a word in at the Q&A, even though my questions would have been better than most. In the rare case I was able to get one in, I would just be cut off and overtalked before I'd finished, and not get another chance.
People are like me are disliked if not hated just for who we are. No doubt we'd be killed, perhaps tortured and then killed, if they had a way of doing it without consequences to themselves. Which has been the case in the past on a large scale many times. I mean of course it happens now, but only for small numbers of bigtime people, not the general public.
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