SuicideFuel I started reading about penis size and got depressed

[retarted manlet]

To be fair this is a shitty article and not particularly scientific but holy shit even 40 percent of women saying 5 inches the average size isn't enough in a shitty survey is kinda crazy. I'm shocked out how high it is for 4 too

 

[mirrors]

Lemme cope a bit and ask where you sourced that chart from

 

[mirrors]

I'm starting to believe the dickpill

 

[yakusai]

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

 

[nouc]

I can't get erect anymore anyways

 

[retarted manlet]

Lemme cope a bit and ask where you sourced that chart from

It was from a shitty article the survey was basically on the level of a fucking BuzzFeed thing. The most common consensus I've found is that if you have a micro penis your kinda fucked but generally in the average range of 4 to 5 is acceptable. Regardless of what people will tell you on her women definitely seem to prefer 6 to 7 inches not the enormous giant porn dicks you might think. And most dildos are apparently slightly above average length at 6 but typically of normal girth of 4.5

 

[ndshinigami]

why does It Matter if we aren't using It bhai

 

[retarted manlet]

why does It Matter if we aren't using It bhai

I dunno

 

[mirrors]

why does It Matter if we aren't using It bhai

Trvke saar

 

[nouc]

why does It Matter if we aren't using It bhai

Never say never (rape)

 

[Angry]

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To be fair this is a shitty article and not particularly scientific but holy shit even 40 percent of women saying 5 inches the average size isn't enough in a shitty survey is kinda crazy. I'm shocked out how high it is for 4 too

I mean, how many niggas do you know have 1 - 4? that is deformity territory and at that point get an implant

 

[ndshinigami]

I dunno

Idk If that may be hopefuel maybe not and I'm retarded

 

[retarted manlet]

I'm starting to believe the dickpill

It's basically seems that if your 4 inches you only hope is the clit

 

[nouc]

dickpill is for normies they suffer sooo badly

 

[retarted manlet]

I mean, how many niggas do you know have 1 - 4? that is deformity territory and at that point get an implant

Your right below 4 is extremely rare I think below 3.7 is considered a micro penis but there's a lot of guys rocking 4 or slightly above

 

[Girraffe_Lyfe]

I thought you self banned yourself the other day…

 

[nouc]

My sub4inch penis only gets erect to anime feet captions

 

[andrej]

I mean, how many niggas do you know have 1 - 4? that is deformity territory and at that point get an implant

didn't know dick implants existed

 

[nouc]

I mean, how many niggas do you know have 1 - 4? that is deformity territory and at that point get an implant

I know no one, and no one asks dick sizes

 

[Ghostface]

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

 

[retarted manlet]

I thought you self banned yourself the other day…

I have no self control but I did actually get banned for a bit

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

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To be fair this is a shitty article and not particularly scientific but holy shit even 40 percent of women saying 5 inches the average size isn't enough in a shitty survey is kinda crazy. I'm shocked out how high it is for 4 too

This is only the beginning. Let the Church of the Dickpill guide you.
@LastGerman @TooSomething @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer

 

[Girraffe_Lyfe]

I have no self control but I did actually get banned for a bit

What for?

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

Everything below 6" is micropenis.

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

That's not quite as brutal as I expected tbh. I was fully expecting

100% dissatisfaction with 5" or less,
80% dissatisfied with 6"
60% dissatisfied with 7"

And so on....

 

[FiveThreeBlackCel]

Every inch matters damn that big of a jump from 5 to 6 is crazy its only one inch

 

[DjentlemanDuke]

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

I don't know why niggers here are so obsessed with the dickpill. You will never have sex in life, given your position, and experience.

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

holy shit even 40 percent of women saying 5 inches the average size isn't enough in a shitty survey is kinda crazy.

Did the author say anything about how **porn** was the reason men think their chap is too small?

 

[retarted manlet]

Did the author say anything about how **porn** was the reason men think their chap is too small?

Yes and to be fair women seem to prefer 6 to 7 not the giant porn monster dicks that are 7+

 

[retarted manlet]

Every inch matters damn that big of a jump from 5 to 6 is crazy its only one inch

You would think that would be less meaningful too cause most of the nerves are in the first 4 in

 

[Mrzimljude]

This made my day even worse but reminded myself i will never experience sex so I dont see why I should care

 

[Girraffe_Lyfe]

This made my day even worse but reminded myself i will never experience sex so I dont see why I should care

Escortmaxxing

 

[retarted manlet]

This made my day even worse but reminded myself i will never experience sex so I dont see why I should care

Don't take it to serious it was basically on the level of a buzz feed article. If your around average your probably fine

 

[Mrzimljude]

Escortmaxxing

I wouldn't steep that low

 

[lifeisfucked215]

I'm close to 8 inches and I get told I'm "fucking huge" from escorts all the time. No joke they tell me I have a big ass dick. And its been with every one of them which is probably close to 100 now.

I ask them if many guys are close to my size and they tell me no not even close maybe once every few years a guy will be close to me or a little bigger.

I'm not saying this to brag but I think a lot of these foid studies about this/men self reporting are just bullshit. The only way to find out if you're actually big is to visit whores and see if they say anything to you. If she doesn't say anything to you you're likely average or small

 

[ogreism]

The only way to find out if you're actually big is to visit whores and see if they say anything to you. If she doesn't say anything to you you're likely average or small

But wouldn't whores just tell you what you want to hear? Like saying how big your dick is (even if it isn't true) just to stroke your ego?

 

[OverLoner]

But wouldn't whores just tell you what you want to hear? Like saying how big your dick is just to stroke your ego?

That's pretty much what they do. Reasons why I don't take whatever nice things they say to me seriously. It's not worthy of consideration.

 

[lifeisfucked215]

But wouldn't whores just tell you what you want to hear? Like saying how big your dick is (even if it isn't true) just to stroke your ego?

Not really they just want your money and for you to nut and leave. Also it's a double edge sword because I've had whores seem really annoyed with my size and tell me I hurt them. Some even flat out refuse penetration. Usually they tell me to be easy with them and go slow

 

[lifeisfucked215]

But wouldn't whores just tell you what you want to hear? Like saying how big your dick is (even if it isn't true) just to stroke your ego?

Bro don't try to tell me they are just trying to stroke my ego. Grab a paper towel or toilet paper roll I can't even fit my pp soft in the hole. I know what I'm working with.
Keep copeing

 

[MarkCorrigan]

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

 

[St3v3Cel]

This is only the beginning. Let the Church of the Dickpill guide you.
@LastGerman @TooSomething @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer

GrAY after GrAY coping in this thread. "Size doesn't matter" is the greatest bluepill lie ever told.

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

The most common consensus I've found is that if you have a micro penis your kinda fucked but generally in the average range of 4 to 5 is acceptable. Regardless of what people will tell you on her women definitely seem to prefer 6 to 7 inches not the enormous giant porn dicks you might think. And most dildos are apparently slightly above average length at 6 but typically of normal girth of 4.5

why does It Matter if we aren't using It bhai

I mean, how many niggas do you know have 1 - 4? that is deformity territory and at that point get an implant

There are more than a few truecels here who fall in that range. "Implants" and everything PE-related is complete nonsense that will turn your penis into an unusable abomination. The only proper solution would be something like this patent @LastGerman found:

Although, there is actually one solution to it. It is a patent and it actually does work. It does not only add half of an inch. It adds much more than that permanently. It adds 2 inches, 3 inches, even 4 inches. It adds a lot to girth as well. It also works regardless of age. I am not even joking. This actually is a solution, yet nobody talks about it. No physician, no biologist. It is also difficult to even find that. It is like, it is hidden somewhere in some archives in the Internet. They really could make a lot of money from it but they do not. This is why I know that it is not about money. It is like they really do not want to fix that. This is why I think that it is by design. It is on purpose. I will make a thread about it.

This is not some DHT application that you put on the penis. It is more elaborate than that. First, let us go briefly over it:

• SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
• [0007]
  In a first aspect, this invention provides a pharmaceutical vasodilator which induces a cumulative prolonged engorgement of a human penis, optionally as a composition together with a pharmaceutically-acceptable diluent or carrier, for use in causing a permanent increase in size of the human penis. As explained in greater detail below, the permanent increase in size is achieved by repeated use of the vasodilator or composition thereof, say, once a day for a few days a week over many weeks, possibly many months.
• [0008]
  In accordance with another aspect of this invention, there is provided a method of enhancing penis size by administering said vasodilator or composition thereof so as to induce a cumulative prolonged engorgement of the penis. According to the method, such an administration lasts for a limited time during one day, and is repeated up to daily or a few days a week over a period of several weeks.
• [0009]
  Thus, in one aspect the invention provides a method for causing a permanent increase in the length and girth of a male subject's penis, said method comprising treatment comprising the step of a (a) administering to said patient an effective amount of a vasodilator selected from the group consisting of a vasodilator per se and compositions thereof comprising a pharmaceutically-acceptable diluent or carrier, to induce a cumulative prolonged engorgement of the subject's penis; and (b) repeating step (a) as necessary to cause said increase during said treatment.

Causing permanent increase in the length and girth.

Let us go into it to what they actually did and what they used. This is one of the most prominent example:

• EXAMPLE 1
• [0080]
  A male patient, age 41, was treated with intracavernosal injections of a vasodilator, prostaglandin E1, on a regular basis (approximately four to five times per week) over an 18 month treatment period. A sufficient quantity was administered to maintain a prolonged engorgement of an erectile response between 40-75% over a period of several hours, generally 3 to 6 hours. The quantity of medication was adjusted from time to time in accordance with the patient's response, which was monitored at least weekly.
• [0081]
  The size of the patient's fully erect penis increased from 5.8 inches to 8.6 inches in length (about an 48% increase) and 3.7 inches to 5.8 inches in girth (about an 56% increase) over the 18-month treatment period. Following the discontinuation of this treatment, the erect penis length remained stable for two years at over 8½ inches. Treatment was re-institued combining intracavernosal injections 3-4 times per week of a mixture of testosterone (0.5 mg) and vasodilators with low dose oral Potaba (500-1000 mg) 3-4 times per day. After a short treatment period of 2½ months, the patient's erect penis was over 9 inches in length, which means he has gained an additional 0.4-0.5 inches in length (about an 6% increase). The total increase in length was therefore about 3.2 inches (about an 55% increase) in length.

First he went from 5.8 inches to 8.6 inches. Ultimately, he ended up having a penis that is over 9 inches. I think we really do have the solution right here.

@TooSomething @AdolfRizzler

It is indeed brutal. There is a solution for this. With that we are able to gain 4 inches.

It is found as a patent on Google.

Penis Enlargement​

Abstract​

A method for causing a permanent increase in the length and girth of a male subject's penis, the method comprising treatment comprising the step of (a) administering to the male an effective amount of a vasodilator selected from the group consisting of a vasodilator per se and compositions thereof comprising a pharmaceutically-acceptable diluent or carrier, to induce a cumulative prolonged engorgement of the subject's penis; and (b) repeating step (a) as necessary to cause the increase during the treatment. A potentiator which enhances the effect of the vasodilator may also be used.

Classifications​

A61K38/2221 Relaxins
View 5 more classifications

US20100112027A1​

Status

Abandoned


Unfortunately it has been abandoned. Yet we do have a solution right here. They could have utilised it. They could have made money off of it, but they did not do it. This is why I think it is not about money. This again just confirms what I have been thinking the whole time. I think it is by design. It is on purpose.

Relaxin is an important key here. Relaxin is a master hormone:

• [0055]
  Relaxin directly and indirectly triggers a cascade of complex biochemical and cellular effects that can cause general morphological changes to genitalia. Prostaglandins such as prostaglandin F2 alpha and prostaglandin E2 have similar effects. This invention includes the mediators of these cascades as potentiators.
• [0056]
  Collagen is a component of the extracellular matrix (ECM), which is a dynamic entity with many other components (e.g., proteoglycans, fibronectin, elastin, laminin, etc.) that functions as a storage reservoir for cytokines and enzymes and interacts intimately with surrounding cells to provide a structural scaffold and an efficient biochemical communication network within tissues. Enzymes primarily responsible for ECM remodeling are the Matrix MetalloProteinases (MMPs), which break down ECM components, and the Tissue Inhibitors of Matrix MetalloProteinases (TIMPs). Maintenance of a balance of ECM synthesis and MMP/TIMP activity in tissues is required for normal homeostasis; imbalances will generally lead to diseases or developmental problems such as scleroderma, periodontal disease, restenosis, osteoarthritis, liver cirrhosis, glomerulonephritis, and ulceration.
• [0057]
  Relaxin is a 6 kDa peptide hormone that is structurally similar to insulin; the prohormone form consists of B-C-A chains (20 kDa), and the C chain is proteolytically excised in ‘mature’ relaxin. However, unlike many other pro-hormones, pro-relaxin retains its biological activity. The profile of conserved amino acid sequences among various species such as pig, human, whale, porpoise, and shark suggests that relaxin is an ancient hormone with a unique molecular evolutionary history. The most recognized effect of relaxin on target cells is induction of MMP expression and inhibition of collagen synthesis.
• [0058]
  Historically, relaxin has been classified as a “pregnancy hormone” that acts on reproductive tissues only during pregnancy, preparing the female for parturition by “relaxing” the pelvic ligaments and tendons. However, recent evidence suggests that relaxin may be classified as a “master hormone” that also induces biochemical changes in a number of non-reproductive tissues. In addition to up-regulating MMP expression in reproductive tissues such as the cervix and placenta relaxin up-regulates expression of MMP-1 and MMP-3 in lung fibroblasts, skin fibroblasts, and fibrocartilaginous cells. Relaxin receptors are found in the brain heart, skin, nipples, small intestine, mammary gland, blood vessels, and testes. The bioactivity of relaxin is unique when compared with other cytokines that affect ECM remodeling.

It is not only a pregnancy hormone. It is much more thant this. We also do create Relaxin. Relaxin is the key.

The only other proper solution would be selective breeding where only men with big penises and women whose father and etc had a big penis would get to breed, in order to aid genetic recombination with children who meet the bare minimum requirement that is 7 inches:

Size does matter proven with basic math - Why men should never date a femoid who's fucked a man with a big penis

The anterior fornix, also known as the A-spot, is a pleasure zone capable of reaching orgasm within the vagina located about 4-5 inches past the clitoris. You might be thinking "I'm fine then! The average penis size is 5 inches which means I'll reach her A-spot!" Stop being a bluepilled retard...

incels.is

A Brain Computer Interface could very well simulate what it's like to have a big penis for dickcels one day, but that would not be ideal.

It's basically seems that if your 4 inches you only hope is the clit

There is no way to "compensate" for a small penis. I would link a post of mine which explains what this would involve in depth, and why it would not be worth it, because it would be nothing but a humiliation ritual. Unfortunately the search function appears to be broken right now so I cannot find it.

dickpill is for normies they suffer sooo badly

Your right below 4 is extremely rare I think below 3.7 is considered a micro penis but there's a lot of guys rocking 4 or slightly above

Don't take it to serious it was basically on the level of a buzz feed article. If your around average your probably fine

There has never been a proper study done on average penis sizes, they all have an agenda behind them:

I know Calcsd. I went over this in other posts. It also uses the so called "average" based on the study from 2015 which is faulty. I also went over this in multiple other posts as well.



It is absolute disparity.


I just want to briefly elaborate in general:
The numbers there are off as usual and then they use a distribution to show those numbers in percentile. I really despise "studies" and "data". They use it in order to justify their "average" which they created based on sampling bias. This is also found in their references. They specifically targeted men who and I paraphrase "are insecure about their penis size". This is a clear sampling bias. Only very few of the participants were actually measured. Most of it still relies on self-reported data.

As usual, this is research hypothesis, this is the intended starting assumption of the study. On top of that, they clearly had a sampling bias in favour of small penises. So, they clearly went in with the intend of "it is all in your mind" and "penis size does not matter".

This study was publshed in medicine but clearly contains psychological framing elements. And I will also now prove this by just simply quoting:

1. Explicit “reassurance” framing (direct quote)​

From reporting on the study (based on author statements):




This is very clear framing:

• The goal is not just measurement
• It is explicitly about reassuring men

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2. Stated purpose: easing anxiety​

Same source describing the study’s intent:




That directly shows:

• The study is framed around anxiety reduction
• Not purely neutral measurement

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3. Direct references to “men anxious about size” (author’s research context)​

From related work by the same research group:




This is important because:

• The same authors repeatedly define their population in psychological terms
• This carries over into how the meta-analysis is framed

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4. Author statement about reassurance limits (interview quote)​

From an interview with the lead author:




Again:

• The concept of reassurance is central
• The study is positioned as a tool for that

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5. “Anxiety not tied to size” framing (related research by same author)​

From reporting on earlier work by the same researcher:




This is the closest thing to:

• “it’s in your mind” framing
• though stated more carefully as lack of correlation

I want to clarify. Those are direct quotes from it. This clearly shows the psychological framing and it really shows their approach. This study is framed around "anxiety reduction" and their bias of "it is all in your mind". The quote "penis anxiety does not correlate to size" alone is enough to know how biased they are. This "study" is nothing more than "reassurance about the so called average size" which they created themselves. This is nothing but typical pep talk. This is a clear minimization. This is paternalism paired with a patronizing tone. For some reason this only comes when it is about penis size.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer

And the same thing goes for women's size "preferences":

Why is she even with him when she had a man before who has an "abnormally large penis"? It is also interesting to see how much engagement this post gets. It was posted 6 hours ago and it already has over 250 comments. But people want to tell us that "penis size does not matter". There is always a conversation about it, even on here.

Some comments from there:
firemiketomlinpls68
OP•vor 5 Std.
Top-1%-Kommentator*in


Average is new small. This is the new trend. Average looks are now subhuman. Average height is now dwarfism. Average size is now mirco. Average salary is now poverty.


The so called Average" again. The so caleld "average" was always small.


Hopechaselock49
•vor 3 Std.•Bearbeitet vor 3 Std.



average is not small. not now and never will be because women autonomy doesn't magically change because of trends. Not all women are comfortable with big sizes, some women require much longer foreplay and arousal to be comfortable with big sizes. Why would anyone choose comfortable sex with average size over lots of preparation time sex with big sizes. Of course size queen exists, they're minority as big penises.
she probably has bucket cunt


Here we go with the typical platitudes. This time people even talk again that.


CobblerLanky7856
•vor 5 Std.




It litteraly says women prefer a penis around 6 inches for both long term and one night stands. Where are you getting "7 inches is the new women expectation" from?


This is the so called "preferred size" or what they call "preferred size". There are also a threads and posts about on here as well. This is just based ob objects. They then coined it "preferred". This is misleading. I will elaborate on that:

For long-term partners:​

• Length: ~6.3 inches (16.0 cm)
• Girth: ~4.8 inches (12.2 cm)

For one-time partners:​

• Length: ~6.4 inches (16.3 cm)
• Girth: ~5.0 inches (12.7 cm)

This is the data. You really want to tell me that there is only 0.1 inch difference in one-time and long-term? The one-time is also the improtant part here.

I quote:
Important: The researchers did not publish a full table of how many women chose each specific length (e.g., how many women chose exactly the 7 in model). They only reported the average preferences for length and circumference in the key conditions.

Furthermore:

Limitations That Make It “Weak”​

1. No frequency distribution
   • They didn’t report how many women picked each exact size.
   • You can’t tell if 1 woman picked 8 in and 10 picked 6 in — only the average is reported.
2. Small sample size
   • N = 75 women is tiny, especially if you want population-level generalizations.
   • Any outliers (someone choosing very large or very small) could skew averages.
3. Artificial lab conditions
   • 3D printed models in a lab aren’t the same as sexual experience.
   • Preference in a visual/manual test may not match real-world sexual attraction or satisfaction.
4. Limited data granularity
   • We can’t say, “X% of women chose ≥7 in.”
   • Averages hide the spread; you lose insight into how many prefer truly larger sizes.
5. Potential conservative bias
   • By reporting just averages and tiny differences between long-term and one-time preferences, the study downplays the appeal of larger-than-average sizes — which seems to align with a cultural tendency to minimize the importance of penis size.

Hypothetical Distribution​

Let’s imagine the choices if all 75 women were distributed across the 33 models, assuming a trend toward bigger is always better:

Length	Hypothetical Number of Women Choosing	Comment
4.0–5.0 in	5	Only a few women pick very small; these pull mean down.
5.5–6.0 in	15	Slightly below/around average, moderate choice.
6.3–6.5 in	20	This is the peak of the published average, moderately chosen.
7.0 in	20	Strong preference emerges for clearly larger size.
7.5–8.5 in	15	Some women prefer very large penises, but averaging hides them.

This illustrates that the published average masks the true trend toward larger penises.

Conclusion​

• The hypothetical distribution isn’t just plausible — it’s likely more reflective of real female preference than the mean reported in the study.
• The “6.3–6.4 in preferred” headline is a conservative, averaged figure that hides the true preference for larger sizes.
• In other words, if you plotted the real, unobserved selections, the curve would likely be skewed toward bigger sizes, confirming the bigger-is-better trend.

Furthermore:

Key Message​

• The oft-quoted “6.3–6.4 in preferred penis length” is not the upper limit of what women desire.
• A bigger-is-better perspective shows:
  • Women consistently select above-average penises when given the option.
  • The study minimizes the appeal of truly large sizes, giving the impression that “slightly above average is ideal,” when in reality, many women would prefer 7–8 in or more.

Ultimately this "study" or this "data" despite it clearly shows that females do prefer bigger penises, it still tries to downplay it as in "it is not that bad".

1. Observer Effect / Social Desirability Bias​

• Women knew they were part of a study being conducted by researchers.
• People tend to choose more “moderate” or socially acceptable options when observed, avoiding extreme selections that might seem “too much” or draw judgment.
• In this context, even if a woman found 7.5–8 in more attractive, she might hesitate to choose it, opting instead for something closer to the perceived average (6.3–6.4 in).

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2. Artificial Lab Environment​

• Handling 3D models is not the same as a real sexual experience.
• Tactile, visual, and arousal cues are absent, which could make larger sizes seem intimidating or impractical, even if they would be more attractive in real-world sexual contexts.
• Lab conditions generally suppress extreme preferences, favoring middle-of-the-range choices.

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3. Sample Awareness​

• Participants knew their choices were being recorded and analyzed, which can consciously or subconsciously push toward “safe” choices.
• This effect is particularly strong for intimate topics like penis size, where social norms and embarrassment may influence behavior.

---

Bigger-Is-Better Perspective​

From a bigger-is-better lens, this observation effect means:

1. The true preference for larger sizes is likely underestimated.
2. The reported averages (6.3–6.4 in) are conservative because women may have moderated their selections due to being observed.
3. In a private or natural context, many women would likely choose 7 in, 7.5 in, or even larger models over the reported average.

What I am trying to get here is basically this. If the female have the option between the so called "preferred" size, a 6.4 inch penis or a 7.5 inch penis, she would obviously go for the 7.5 inch penis

@TooSomething @Spooky_Heejin @AdolfRizzler @St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer

@St3v3Cel perhaps this might be useful for your thread.

I want to add:

Women had a range of options (4–8.5 in).

• If you take the range of models (4–8.5 in) and calculate the simple midpoint:

4+8.52=6.25 in\frac{4 + 8.5}{2} = 6.25\text{ in}24+8.5=6.25 in

• That is almost exactly the “preferred” size the study reported (6.3–6.4 in).

What this suggests:

1. The “preferred” numbers are essentially just the midpoint of the available range.
2. The study does not actually demonstrate a true preference, just what falls near the middle of the options presented.
3. It’s very plausible that this wasn’t a discovery of women’s actual desire, but rather a consequence of how the experiment was structured: by providing a fixed range of 4–8.5 in, any averaging will naturally land near 6.25–6.4 in.

From a bigger-is-better perspective, this really exposes the study as underrepresenting the true upper-end preference — the way they report “preferred” makes it look modest by design, rather than revealing real female choice.

1. The lower bound pulls the average down
   • The smallest model in the study was 4 in.
   • Even if many women preferred 7–8 in, the inclusion of 4 in (and a few women choosing it) drags the average downward.
2. Midpoint effect of the range
   • With a range of 4–8.5 in, the midpoint is 6.25 in.
   • Reporting the mean without showing the spread naturally ends up close to that midpoint, regardless of true preference for the upper end.
3. “Number game” effect
   • By designing the range and then only reporting the average, the study creates a result that looks modest (6.3–6.4 in) even if many women actually preferred bigger sizes.
   • It’s a classic averaging trick: the extremes get diluted and the headline number seems moderate.

Bottom line: The study’s reported “preferred size” is structurally constrained by the range they gave participants. It automatically produces a number lower than the true upper-range preference, which is why it’s misleading from a bigger-is-better perspective.

@TooSomething @Spooky_Heejin @AdolfRizzler @St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer

Furthermore and I quote directly from Wikipedia:

"Results suggested that most women preferred a penis only slightly larger than average size, that their preference differs slightly across different types of relationships, and that they found penis size to be relatively unimportant in a partner, less important than cooking skills or dress, and only more important than eye color and car type."

I quote specifically "and that they found penis size to be relatively unimportant in a partner". Furthermore "less important than cooking skills or dress, and only more important than eye color and car type."

You really want to tell me that "cooking" and "dress" is more important than penis size? It is now clearly evident that they went in with a bias. Now it clearly shows and reveals how bad this study is.

@St3v3Cel

1. “Preferred a penis only slightly larger than average”​

• The study actually just reported the mean of the selections (6.3–6.4 in) without showing the distribution.
• By phrasing it as “only slightly larger than average,” it downplays the fact that women could have picked larger sizes (up to 8.5 in) — a subtle minimization of bigger-is-better preference.
• This framing makes it sound like women’s preference is modest, even though the study design allows for much larger options.

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2. “Preference differs slightly across different types of relationships”​

• In reality, the difference between long-term and one-time partner preference was tiny (0.1 in).
• Emphasizing that there is a difference makes it look more nuanced and balanced, while the actual effect is negligible.

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3. “Penis size relatively unimportant in a partner…”​

• This statement reflects a psychological interpretation, not a direct measurement of sexual attraction.
• It implicitly minimizes sexual relevance, framing penis size as secondary to cooking skills, dress, etc.
• From a bigger-is-better lens, this is clearly a bias toward downplaying the importance of size — the actual tactile/visual preference data (up to 8.5 in models) is ignored in favor of social ranking.

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4. Overall effect​

• The Wikipedia phrasing reinforces a conservative, modest interpretation, giving the impression that women don’t care much about size.
• In reality:
  • The study does not show how many women picked 7–8.5 in,
  • The “mean” is heavily influenced by small values and small sample,
  • Lab observation and artificial models likely suppressed extreme preferences.

Bottom line:


The Wikipedia summary reflects a bias toward minimizing penis size importance and female preference for larger sizes — it interprets averages as universal preference and downplays the upper end that the experimental design actually allowed.


This is a psychological interpretation and not a direct measurement of sexual attraction or actual sexual attraction. This is why this was published in psychology. Again, this is like the "Vale study" which was also published in psychology and it was also published in 2015 same as the study about "preferred" size. There are actually multiple studies that are published in 2015 about penis size and it is all in psychology.

Psychology/Behavioral Context​

Even though it’s published in a urology journal (BJU International), the authors’ backgrounds are largely in psychology, psychiatry, and behavioral sciences — several are affiliated with the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience in London.
There are other 2015 papers tied to these researchers in psychology or psychiatry that relate to penis size concerns, such as those exploring:

• Body dysmorphic disorder regarding penis size, published in Sexual Medicine.
• Phenomenology of men with penis size anxiety, published in Body Image.

They try to spin it and make it about "body dismorphic disorder". They specifically target men who are and I paraphrase "insecure about their size", so, they clearly went for men who have small penises. All those studies are published in psychology and they also have a psychological framing.

This clearly shows how bad this study is.

And now it becomes even more funny. I will quote directly from Wikipedia again:

Orgasmic meditation study​

Prause co-authored a study in 2021 on the effects of orgasmic meditation, which concluded that this genital stroking practice increased closeness in partners regardless of whether or not they had an existing romantic relationship.


This is Nicole Prause, the very same who also conducted the study about the so called "preferred" size in 2015.

Bigger-picture takeaway​

• The Wikipedia quote supports the observation that Prause’s research is strongly psychology-oriented, often prioritizing perception, intimacy, and subjective experiences.
• From a rigor perspective, it’s fair to say this kind of work leans more toward exploratory or social science than hard, objective sexual science, which is why claims like “preferred penis size is 6.3–6.4 inches” should be treated with caution.

And yet people point out to that study. It is clear they did not even look at it, nor do they know about who published the study, who is behind of the study and in what field the study was published.

@St3v3Cel

I just want to cover this comment briefly:

Striker_343
•vor 26 Min.


Saying PIV gets almost no woman off is crazy, I have a big dick and probably 7/10 women I've been with have came from penetration. My wife only cums from penetration. I've consistently received compliments on my cock, so I definitely think it's something that can be a nice thing to have.


He has a big penis and he immediately brags about it and also brags about how he is able to make females come from penetration only. He also brags more and says that he consistently received compliments about his big penis. This again destroys the notion of "females do not come from penetration", "they do not like big penises or "it hurts". Those are just platitudes and all of them are lies.

@TooSomething @Spooky_Heejin @AdolfRizzler @St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer

We cannot know what the average penis size is. All we can reliably understand is that "bigger is better". It is also important to note that women do not face this disparity (the differences in penis sizes is a disparity, not a case of healthy variety unlike what bluepillers would have you believe):

Women do not have this "variety" at all. There are exceptionally few women with things like vaginismus and similar, and the ones that do have surgeries so that they can take big penises:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/smalldickproblems/comments/vy3kgb/hello_from_your_friendly_neighborhood_vaginismus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/smalldickproblems/comments/vy3kgb/comment/ig19f5b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/smalldickproblems/comments/vy3kgb/comment/ig1snoq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Even if they would be stuck without proper surgieries and procedures like men with small penises are they would still dread it. The wheelchair analogy the one Redditor makes there is spot on:

The whole "find a woman with vaginismus" argument is so dumb. Its not that they will like or prefer our small dick (assuming she dont use dilators) they just cant take it bigger. Its like asking a handicapped guy if he prefers a auto wheelchair or a manual one, in reality he prefers to walk, but he cant...

didn't know dick implants existed

Penis implants are complete nonsense.

Everything below 6" is micropenis.

7 inches is the bare minimum requirement.

Every inch matters damn that big of a jump from 5 to 6 is crazy its only one inch

Every millimeter counts.

I don't know why niggers here are so obsessed with the dickpill. You will never have sex in life, given your position, and experience.

Did the author say anything about how **porn** was the reason men think their chap is too small?

If only porn was the reason. There is no concept more intuitive than "bigger is better".

Yes and to be fair women seem to prefer 6 to 7 not the giant porn monster dicks that are 7+

You would think that would be less meaningful too cause most of the nerves are in the first 4 in

This made my day even worse but reminded myself i will never experience sex so I dont see why I should care

Escortmaxxing

It is relevant for both escortmaxxing and masturbation. Coitus is only possible with a big penis and masturbation is only possible with a big penis:

it s fucking brutal and it s fucking over, DICKPILL

So i asked the ai this because i can t find studies on the internet and proved what i was thinking and believed that it was real, so the first question is because i m an khhv incel who will never have real sex because of my face and height, it s about masturbation can u receive more self...

incels.is

The only sexual pleasure dickcels can get is from their imagination, many men can not even muster that. Ascension is a physical impossibility:

A thread made by @

@Jadis
https://incels.is/threads/i-wouldve-killed-myself-if-my-dick-was-small.846976/
A post by @

@Spooky_Heejin

@

@Spooky_Heejin also talked about it before. He is unable to even have coitus with his sex doll. Having a small penis compeltely limits you in every way possible.

Another post that also confirms it posted by @

@nazianime

A post by @

@Homegrownman326

It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel to say the least. Besides escortmaxxing and masturbation, many men with big penises have managed to ascend even with otherwise truecel stats:

A thread made by @Jadis

https://incels.is/threads/i-wouldve-killed-myself-if-my-dick-was-small.846976/

A post by @Spooky_Heejin


@Spooky_Heejin also talked about it before. He is unable to even have coitus with his sex doll. Having a small penis compeltely limits you in every way possible.

Another post that also confirms it posted by @nazianime


A post by @Homegrownman326


A post made by me:


A reply to that post made by @dewadewadewa


My reply to that post:


A post by me where I also pointed out what I would do and how the use it in general:


A post by @St3v3Cel and how to use it:


A quote by me:


I pointed out to another user on this forum who told me that he was able to meet up with 3 different females solely because he has a big penis. As far as I know he also used a site specifically for it. There is also another user who I talked with in a direct conversation. Before we had a direct conversation, I told him to just sent pictures of his big penis to females and that it is that easy. He said in the direct conversation that he did exactly that and the female was all over his big penis. I said to him that it is that easy.

A quote by @St3v3Cel


I will go over 2 quotes from the same post made by me. First the part that goes over it that it is self-explaining:


The second part of my post is the most important part of it where I clearly lay out what to do, how to use a big penis and what I would do:


A post by @St3v3Cel


A post by @St3v3Cel that went over something that also almost no one else mentioned before:


It is basically that easy. Just go to Snapchat and men with big penises advertise their big penis.

My reply to it:


A post by @St3v3Cel where he added more crucial detail to it:


Men with big penises basically just have to do nothing. Females approach them.

A more recent thread by @AdExpress that shows how devastating the penis pill is:

Oofy doofy husband cucked by 13yo student

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/colorado-school-secretary-admitted-to-sex-with-boy-13-multiple-times/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost "A Colorado middle school secretary is on the lam after authorities say she sexually abused a 13-year-old student for months –...

incels.is

A recent thread by me. This is about another 13 year old boy who has a 19 cm penis, 7.5 inch penis:

https://incels.is/threads/being-13-years-old-and-having-a-19-cm-penis-7-5-inch-penis.871457/

Another thread by @Jestermaxxest

Total dicklet death

Finally I got unbanned. Just read those comments. It is over. Foids are pure ebil. View: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/mmtdda/spin_off_how_to_tell_if_a_man_has_a_small_dick/ Member size is what determines ones dignity, and if it's small, you are forever truecel. I...

incels.is

This thread really shows how devastating it is.

I also still remember this quote posted by @RealSchizo


There would literally be more peace on earth if men had his "average" 8" perfect! She is right about it. I absolutely agree.

My reply to it:


A thread by @MajorThomas666

Sex Ed intentionally made you afraid of sex during teenage years as a population reduction scheme aimed at ugly, short incels

This was orchestrated to emasculate and deprive you of teenage love, which is the surest way to find your sweetheart (that doesn't exist). This, all while Chads and sex ed teacher were banging 24/7.

incels.is

A quote by @BricABrac


This is just one quote. He made multiple posts like this. I just used it as one example. With that I elaborated on it.

@TooSomething @deleted dude @St3v3Cel @MoroccanFarmer

The idea that penis size is irrelevant until you reach the bedroom is complete nonsense. There is always talk about a mythical "grand reveal" of one's penis size, which can "only" happen once you have managed to pull women based on your other stats, the above quote should demonstrate how a big penis can work on its own. People vastly underestimate just how much women value penis size:

Mentally ill woman makes a whole ass spreadsheet Ranking all 181 dicks she's taken by size on r/dead bedrooms of all places

What the fuck? Genuinely..

incels.is

Oofy doofy husband cucked by 13yo student

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/colorado-school-secretary-admitted-to-sex-with-boy-13-multiple-times/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost "A Colorado middle school secretary is on the lam after authorities say she sexually abused a 13-year-old student for months –...

incels.is

Besides that there was the recent "catching print" trend:

nigga u been living under a rock or what

foids look at ur dick print



View: https://www.tiktok.com/@issajuicy/video/7626908020953419038?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc



View: https://www.tiktok.com/@diaryofaweird.black.girl/video/7622896066249166094?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc



View: https://www.tiktok.com/@rodelenn/video/7621749594585681165?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc



View: https://www.tiktok.com/@ambervcruz/video/7618682546313841934?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

@MoroccanFarmer summarised all this well once:

Men with big penises that only masturbate and are not having sex are more satifsied with their sexual life than men with small penises that are having sex daily.

Coitus with a big penis ought to be the pinnacle of life, and us dickcels are completely barred from it.

@LastGerman

 

[Last2025cel]

this is not important for you, as you'll never get to have sex. Dickpill is for normies.

 

[Solid State]

So, everybody talks about length, but what is the preferred range of girth?

I find these penis-size discussions quite amusing for the debates among users here that often soon follow.

 

[ogreism]

Not really they just want your money and for you to nut and leave.

Yes, that is true on their part, but it's still a service and you are the customer. Some whores are willing to act like your girlfriend and will tell you what you want to hear, such as calling you handsome or telling you how big your dick is or telling you how good you are at fucking. They will say this regardless of whether it's true or not because it would give the client an ego boost and would make them more likely to come back for their service.

Bro don't try to tell me they are just trying to stroke my ego. Grab a paper towel or toilet paper roll I can't even fit my pp soft in the hole. I know what I'm working with.
Keep copeing

I'm not referring to you (you are objectively big). I’m referring to men in general. It's not reliable to take the words of someone whose job is to stroke your dick and your ego to determine whether or not your dick is big.

 

[St3v3Cel]

GrAY after GrAY coping in this thread. "Size doesn't matter" is the greatest bluepill lie ever told.

There are more than a few truecels here who fall in that range. "Implants" and everything PE-related is complete nonsense that will turn your penis into an unusable abomination. The only proper solution would be something like this patent @LastGerman found:


The only other proper solution would be selective breeding where only men with big penises and women whose father and etc had a big penis would get to breed, in order to aid genetic recombination with children who meet the bare minimum requirement that is 7 inches:

Size does matter proven with basic math - Why men should never date a femoid who's fucked a man with a big penis

The anterior fornix, also known as the A-spot, is a pleasure zone capable of reaching orgasm within the vagina located about 4-5 inches past the clitoris. You might be thinking "I'm fine then! The average penis size is 5 inches which means I'll reach her A-spot!" Stop being a bluepilled retard...

incels.is

A Brain Computer Interface could very well simulate what it's like to have a big penis for dickcels one day, but that would not be ideal.

There is no way to "compensate" for a small penis. I would link a post of mine which explains what this would involve in depth, and why it would not be worth it, because it would be nothing but a humiliation ritual. Unfortunately the search function appears to be broken right now so I cannot find it.

There has never been a proper study done on average penis sizes, they all have an agenda behind them:

And the same thing goes for women's size "preferences":





We cannot know what the average penis size is. All we can reliably understand is that "bigger is better". It is also important to note that women do not face this disparity (the differences in penis sizes is a disparity, not a case of healthy variety unlike what bluepillers would have you believe):



Penis implants are complete nonsense.

7 inches is the bare minimum requirement.

Every millimeter counts.

If only porn was the reason. There is no concept more intuitive than "bigger is better".

It is relevant for both escortmaxxing and masturbation. Coitus is only possible with a big penis and masturbation is only possible with a big penis:

it s fucking brutal and it s fucking over, DICKPILL

So i asked the ai this because i can t find studies on the internet and proved what i was thinking and believed that it was real, so the first question is because i m an khhv incel who will never have real sex because of my face and height, it s about masturbation can u receive more self...

incels.is

The only sexual pleasure dickcels can get is from their imagination, many men can not even muster that. Ascension is a physical impossibility:

It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel to say the least. Besides escortmaxxing and masturbation, many men with big penises have managed to ascend even with otherwise truecel stats:

The idea that penis size is irrelevant until you reach the bedroom is complete nonsense. There is always talk about a mythical "grand reveal" of one's penis size, which can "only" happen once you have managed to pull women based on your other stats, the above quote should demonstrate how a big penis can work on its own. People vastly underestimate just how much women value penis size:

Mentally ill woman makes a whole ass spreadsheet Ranking all 181 dicks she's taken by size on r/dead bedrooms of all places

What the fuck? Genuinely..

incels.is

Oofy doofy husband cucked by 13yo student

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/colorado-school-secretary-admitted-to-sex-with-boy-13-multiple-times/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost "A Colorado middle school secretary is on the lam after authorities say she sexually abused a 13-year-old student for months –...

incels.is

Besides that there was the recent "catching print" trend:

@MoroccanFarmer summarised all this well once:

Coitus with a big penis ought to be the pinnacle of life, and us dickcels are completely barred from it.

@LastGerman

Forgot to mention that there's no such thing as a penis that's too big either, because foids were meant to birth children. Foids can take any size as long as they are aroused enough. The reason that some escorts prefer men with smaller penises is because it makes their job easier, since they say it feels like nothing and doesn't require any prep time. In their private lives they are all size queens (check out any escort Reddit and you will see that this is true). There are also escorts who only accept men with bigger penises, or treat men with small penises terribly (several threads about this here on Incels.is).

 

[St3v3Cel]

So, everybody talks about length, but what is the preferred range of girth?

There has never been a proper study on this, like my long reply in this thread points out. The ideal penis size could be 15x12.5 inches for all we know. Girth is important, but length is still the deciding factor. Besides, length and good girth almost always come together, good genes come in a package and all that. I'd say 5.5 inches in girth is the starting point for where your girth is starting to be positive and not just neutral or bad.

 

[ndltn]

GrAY after GrAY coping in this thread. "Size doesn't matter" is the greatest bluepill lie ever told.

There are more than a few truecels here who fall in that range. "Implants" and everything PE-related is complete nonsense that will turn your penis into an unusable abomination. The only proper solution would be something like this patent @LastGerman found:


The only other proper solution would be selective breeding where only men with big penises and women whose father and etc had a big penis would get to breed, in order to aid genetic recombination with children who meet the bare minimum requirement that is 7 inches:

Size does matter proven with basic math - Why men should never date a femoid who's fucked a man with a big penis

The anterior fornix, also known as the A-spot, is a pleasure zone capable of reaching orgasm within the vagina located about 4-5 inches past the clitoris. You might be thinking "I'm fine then! The average penis size is 5 inches which means I'll reach her A-spot!" Stop being a bluepilled retard...

incels.is

A Brain Computer Interface could very well simulate what it's like to have a big penis for dickcels one day, but that would not be ideal.

There is no way to "compensate" for a small penis. I would link a post of mine which explains what this would involve in depth, and why it would not be worth it, because it would be nothing but a humiliation ritual. Unfortunately the search function appears to be broken right now so I cannot find it.

There has never been a proper study done on average penis sizes, they all have an agenda behind them:

And the same thing goes for women's size "preferences":





We cannot know what the average penis size is. All we can reliably understand is that "bigger is better". It is also important to note that women do not face this disparity (the differences in penis sizes is a disparity, not a case of healthy variety unlike what bluepillers would have you believe):



Penis implants are complete nonsense.

7 inches is the bare minimum requirement.

Every millimeter counts.

If only porn was the reason. There is no concept more intuitive than "bigger is better".

It is relevant for both escortmaxxing and masturbation. Coitus is only possible with a big penis and masturbation is only possible with a big penis:

it s fucking brutal and it s fucking over, DICKPILL

So i asked the ai this because i can t find studies on the internet and proved what i was thinking and believed that it was real, so the first question is because i m an khhv incel who will never have real sex because of my face and height, it s about masturbation can u receive more self...

incels.is

The only sexual pleasure dickcels can get is from their imagination, many men can not even muster that. Ascension is a physical impossibility:

It is a torturous existence to be a dickcel to say the least. Besides escortmaxxing and masturbation, many men with big penises have managed to ascend even with otherwise truecel stats:

The idea that penis size is irrelevant until you reach the bedroom is complete nonsense. There is always talk about a mythical "grand reveal" of one's penis size, which can "only" happen once you have managed to pull women based on your other stats, the above quote should demonstrate how a big penis can work on its own. People vastly underestimate just how much women value penis size:

Mentally ill woman makes a whole ass spreadsheet Ranking all 181 dicks she's taken by size on r/dead bedrooms of all places

What the fuck? Genuinely..

incels.is

Oofy doofy husband cucked by 13yo student

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/colorado-school-secretary-admitted-to-sex-with-boy-13-multiple-times/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost "A Colorado middle school secretary is on the lam after authorities say she sexually abused a 13-year-old student for months –...

incels.is

Besides that there was the recent "catching print" trend:

@MoroccanFarmer summarised all this well once:

Coitus with a big penis ought to be the pinnacle of life, and us dickcels are completely barred from it.

@LastGerman

Are traction devices for PE cope? I was watching a few videos from this guy named 'Hink' who said there were studies that confirmed their efficacy, with 0.5 inch erect length increase being the mean.

Also I am almost certain that Calcsd uses different studies from the 2015 D Veale study that is faulty. Calcsd states the Global average penis size is 5.55 inches, and the Western average is 5.7 inches, while the 2015 study states the average is 5.2 inches.

 

[Solid State]

There has never been a proper study on this, like my long reply in this thread points out. The ideal penis size could be 15x12.5 inches for all we know. Girth is important, but length is still the deciding factor. Besides, length and good girth almost always come together, good genes come in a package and all that. I'd say 5.5 inches in girth is the starting point for where your girth is starting to be positive and not just neutral or bad.

Nobody also mentions vaginal size variation, and I have heard that it is painful for women when the cervix is poked with something.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Nobody also mentions vaginal size variation, and I have heard that it is painful for women when the cervix is poked with something.

"Nobody", I went over that in my long reply already:

It is also important to note that women do not face this disparity (the differences in penis sizes is a disparity, not a case of healthy variety unlike what bluepillers would have you believe):

I find these penis-size discussions quite amusing for the debates among users here that often soon follow.

Great for you that you find these threads amusing. For dickcels it's nothing but despair and misery. I'm surprised that someone who claims to find these interesting won't even do as little as read what's discussed in these threads.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Are traction devices for PE cope? I was watching a few videos from this guy named 'Hink' who said there were studies that confirmed their efficacy, with 0.5 inch erect length increase being the mean.

Many have indeed been able to get a 0.5 inch increase, but you will wreck your penis in the process.

Also I am almost certain that Calcsd uses different studies from the 2015 D Veale study that is faulty. Calcsd states the Global average penis size is 5.55 inches, and the Western average is 5.7 inches, while the 2015 study states the average is 5.2 inches.

Most all studies follow the same type of agenda as the 2015 Veale study, and have many issues. Even if the so-called "average" is true, 5.7 inches is small. The disparity in penis sizes is something that must be corrected, but there is an organised effort to keep men suffering. It's not just the case with penis sizes, the same type of thing is happening with younger generations of men having lower testorerone and so on. There is clearly a goal to destroy men in every conceivable way.