Cope I hope that the economic crisis will finally will accelerate and then we will have an opportunity for change.

[Erenincel]

The mistakes of previous generations will affect us and this is a opportunity to change.
We live in economic times very similar to the times before the Great Depression. Here are the similarities:
1.Stock market bubble – Equity valuations, especially in tech and AI, are heavily inflated — just like industrial stocks in the 1920s.
2.High interest rates – The Fed raised rates to 6.25% before 1929. Today they are at a similar level, yet markets keep climbing.
3.Wealth inequality – Wealth is concentrating among the few while the middle class loses purchasing power — exactly as before 1929.
4.Easy credit and debt – Before the crash, stocks were massively bought on margin. Today, global debt of governments, corporations and households is at record highs.
5.Protectionism – Tariffs and trade wars strangled the economy in the 1930s. Today we are again seeing the return of trade barriers and deglobalization.
6.Global contagion – Back then, the crisis spread across the world almost instantly. Today's interconnections are even stronger, making contagion risk greater.
Rise of radicalism – Inequality and economic uncertainty fuel populism and nationalist movements — just as in the 1930s
It is clear that this will not be the same crisis, but it will eventually happen, even though governments try to postpone it indefinitely.
The government and the people have completely different actions options.
Additionally, there are many issues that can cause a snowball effect.
things like rising costs of living, lack of trust in the government, demographics, the emigration crisis in the EU, the amount of private loans in the US, ecological crises, global warming, high polarization of society, etc. These things will cause mutually reinforcing problems.
Is that why he writes about it in this site?
Because I think we have a chance to change society. The current society will not survive in its present form. And we can force changes that will reverse our fate and that of other men.
I know this is probably just a cope because it could end up with us ordinary people living worse and worse and the Elite solidifying their position and introducing a repeat of feudalism (elements of it are already there), but if I'm right, we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity.

 

[PhineasSpear]

I won't lie, I predict that within the next decade or so - assuming the economy won't get better - there would be some kind of bubbling bursting like AI and the like, and that there would be a massive economic depression similar to the Great Depression; at that point, outside of gated communities where the elites live, the outside world would basically be one enormous slum. Maybe then, someone (or some group) would try to incite a possibly ill-fated revolution/movement. I doubt it though.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

There's this fantasy that certain types of accelerationists have where they think if things keep getting bad then everything will collapse, the elites will lose all their power, society turns to ashes, and then from the ashes will arise a new socio-economic paradigm...which conveniently will reflect the accelerationist's ideals and it will totally happen in his lifetime too, trust me bro.

If AI doesn't pan out, things will just keep getting worse, just expect more of the same. The only alternative is that we end up with a millennial redditor or a tiktok brained zoomer president, and they make radical changes I don't think anyone here would like.

 

[Erenincel]

I won't lie, I predict that within the next decade or so - assuming the economy won't get better - there would be some kind of bubbling bursting like AI and the like, and that there would be a massive economic depression similar to the Great Depression; at that point, outside of gated communities where the elites live, the outside world would basically be one enormous slum. Maybe then, someone (or some group) would try to incite a possibly ill-fated revolution/movement. I doubt it though.

The economy will definitely get worse, but the question is how. Will there finally be a crisis, as it should be, or will they just slowly boil the Frog without anything exploding, and we'll end up as Peasants in technofeudalism.

 

[Zionist]

I won't lie, I predict that within the next decade or so - assuming the economy won't get better - there would be some kind of bubbling bursting like AI and the like, and that there would be a massive economic depression similar to the Great Depression; at that point, outside of gated communities where the elites live, the outside world would basically be one enormous slum. Maybe then, someone (or some group) would try to incite a possibly ill-fated revolution/movement. I doubt it though.

Once the cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back in, this world needs a reset, no revolution can fix the damage done

 

[Erenincel]

There's this fantasy that certain types of accelerationists have where they think if things keep getting bad then everything will collapse, the elites will lose all their power, society turns to ashes, and then from the ashes will arise a new socio-economic paradigm...which conveniently will reflect the accelerationist's ideals and it will totally happen in his lifetime too, trust me bro.

If AI doesn't pan out, things will just keep getting worse, just expect more of the same. The only alternative is that we end up with a millennial redditor or a tiktok brained zoomer president, and they make radical changes I don't think anyone here would like.

that it will get worse and worse, I know, the question is how. There should have been a crisis a long time ago, but central banks are doing everything to prevent it at the expense of normal people.The question is, will everything finally collapse? Maybe it will be the other way around and everything will go up significantly.and it will go so fast that even a millionaire won't be able to afford anything.
I'm saying that how it ends is inconclusive.
and a lot really depends on how people behave and as a good age, poor people can also be very intelligent and clever..
And during Chaos, there really will be a chance to change something, and that would ensure a crisis. At most, we'll have to push the first cube because the entire domino is already prepared.

 

[PhineasSpear]

The economy will definitely get worse, but the question is how. Will there finally be a crisis, as it should be, or will they just slowly boil the Frog without anything exploding, and we'll end up as Peasants in techno feudalism.

With the amount of investments in AI, it would be extremely catastrophic if said AI doesn't pan out. There would almost certainly be a massive crisis.

Once the cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back in, this world needs a reset, no revolution can fix the damage done

Usually when there is a massive crisis, a revolution will (at least try to) follow.

The reason there is no revolution is because everybody is too decadent or lack the inertia to initiate a revolution nor will they dedicate their life to said revolution. In short, they are basically stuck in their "comfort" zone constantly holding up delusions of grandeur about being apart of a revolution while (at least partially) aware they lack the power to start or participate in said revolution.

That being said, once the man overcomes the inertia, a revolution (or at bare minimum a massive backlash) will follow - with the intensity being heightened due to pent-up rage.

Otherwise, if they stay in their comfort zone, the rest of society is basically going to regress back into being a "primitive" society if that makes sense.

 

[Erenincel]

Once the cat is out of the bag, you can't put it back in, this world needs a reset, no revolution can fix the damage done

Believe me, normal people also feel that a reset is needed. I have no idea how history will unfold, but I hope the elite will be given a choice: a complete reset of the financial system or a revolution. Currently, they are doing everything to prevent a crisis and to make it worse.
It definitely won't be like it was before in history. Plus, I have faith in people, and I'm telling you, nothing's decided yet.

 

[t3mcel]

¡Viva la revolución!

 

[Freixel]

¡Viva la revolución!

 

[Erenincel]

With the amount of investments in AI, it would be extremely catastrophic if said AI doesn't pan out. There would almost certainly be a massive crisis.

The interesting thing about it is that regardless of whether it works, it will still be bad.
If it works, it will cause unemployment everywhere, and many people will be unable to adapt. Previously, in history, new professions emerged to replace old ones. But success could be too quick and cause truly serious problems for many people at once.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

that it will get worse and worse, I know, the question is how. There should have been a crisis a long time ago, but central banks are doing everything to prevent it at the expense of normal people.The question is, will everything finally collapse? Maybe it will be the other way around and everything will go up significantly.and it will go so fast that even a millionaire won't be able to afford anything.
I'm saying that how it ends is inconclusive.
and a lot really depends on how people behave and as a good age, poor people can also be very intelligent and clever..
And during Chaos, there really will be a chance to change something, and that would ensure a crisis. At most, we'll have to push the first cube because the entire domino is already prepared.

The ultra wealthy are going to be fine no matter what. If you're waiting for them to lose power or "get their comeuppance" you'll be waiting until the heat death of the universe. The worst that will happen to them is seeing their portfolio go from 1.9 billion to 1.2 billion.

Ultimately what we're heading towards if AI doesn't pan out is ending up like Brazil. Low trust, high crime, and the majority struggling to survive, but with a top 1 percent who live lives of luxury in gated communities away from it all.

 

[Zionist]

With the amount of investments in AI, it would be extremely catastrophic if said AI doesn't pan out. There would almost certainly be a massive crisis.

Usually when there is a massive crisis, a revolution will (at least try to) follow.

The reason there is no revolution is because everybody is too decadent or lack the inertia to initiate a revolution nor will they dedicate their life to said revolution. In short, they are basically stuck in their "comfort" zone constantly holding up delusions of grandeur about being apart of a revolution while (at least partially) aware they lack the power to start or participate in said revolution.

That being said, once the man overcomes the inertia, a revolution (or at bare minimum a massive backlash) will follow - with the intensity being heightened due to pent-up rage.

Otherwise, if they stay in their comfort zone, the rest of society is basically going to regress back into being a "primitive" society if that makes sense.

I think you can't erase all things women experienced, women know what freedom feels like, they will never go back to being submissive again, that's the reason I think a revolution won't fix anything, only a total reset can fix the problem, and revolutions are led by chads, and chads do whatever women want, because they see women with positive lens since women treat them like kings.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

The current society will not survive in its present form. And we can force changes that will reverse our fate and that of other men.

In 2 more weeks I presume

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

The ultra wealthy are going to be fine no matter what. If you're waiting for them to lose power or "get their comeuppance" you'll be waiting until the heat death of the universe.

 

[Zionist]

Believe me, normal people also feel that a reset is needed. I have no idea how history will unfold, but I hope the elite will be given a choice: a complete reset of the financial system or a revolution. Currently, they are doing everything to prevent a crisis and to make it worse.
It definitely won't be like it was before in history. Plus, I have faith in people, and I'm telling you, nothing's decided yet.

If you see even the second coming of Jesus brings a reset to humanity, Jesus will rule for over 1000 years, then humans will inherit the earth once again, new humans, not the corrupted ones that live now, these new humans won't have knowledge of all the disgrace of this decaying world we live in, they won't know about feminism, faggotry, left wing, right wing, they will live like normal humans beings as God intended.

 

[Erenincel]

Usually when there is a massive crisis, a revolution will (at least try to) follow.

The reason there is no revolution is because everybody is too decadent or lack the inertia to initiate a revolution nor will they dedicate their life to said revolution. In short, they are basically stuck in their "comfort" zone constantly holding up delusions of grandeur about being apart of a revolution while (at least partially) aware they lack the power to start or participate in said revolution.

That being said, once the man overcomes the inertia, a revolution (or at bare minimum a massive backlash) will follow - with the intensity being heightened due to pent-up rage.

Otherwise, if they stay in their comfort zone, the rest of society is basically going to regress back into being a "primitive" society if that makes sense.

True. Most people, under normal circumstances, wouldn't think about such things. People would simply protest and then leave.
Only when a person is desperate do they start organizing such things because they have no other choice.
That's why I say the opportunity to change something will only be in a crisis.
It's just that even if someone is harmed by the system (like us), they are usually left alone and people will not step out of line for us.

 

[Erenincel]

The ultra wealthy are going to be fine no matter what. If you're waiting for them to lose power or "get their comeuppance" you'll be waiting until the heat death of the universe. The worst that will happen to them is seeing their portfolio go from 1.9 billion to 1.2 billion.

Ultimately what we're heading towards if AI doesn't pan out is ending up like Brazil. Low trust, high crime, and the majority struggling to survive, but with a top 1 percent who live lives of luxury in gated communities away from it all.

True. I'd even go so far as to say that these types of people can capitalize on a crisis. However, there are far more players on the political scene than just one. Furthermore, the world has become highly polarized and fragmented. The elite who prepared will remain, while those who aren't prepared will perish in the chaos. Especially since people now tend to think in terms of ideology rather than statehood, which can only add to the chaos. and I hope that this chaos will simply begin.

 

[Erenincel]

I think you can't erase all things women experienced, women know what freedom feels like, they will never go back to being submissive again, that's the reason I think a revolution won't fix anything, only a total reset can fix the problem, and revolutions are led by chads, and chads do whatever women want, because they see women with positive lens since women treat them like kings.

Believe me, when most women feel the burden of responsibility, they'll quickly decide they'd rather return to their previous role. Most women, given the choice between risking their lives or returning to being obedient wives, will choose the latter because women naturally have a lower risk appetite.
You can give equal choice without privileges.
Society and technology will change beyond that. Perhaps society can be preserved in its current form, but we will have to modify our brains to live in the new society.

 

[Emba]

Ai is the digital Cheka

 

[RottingMentalIago]

The only alternative is that we end up with a millennial redditor or a tiktok brained zoomer president, and they make radical changes I don't think anyone here would like.

It’s probably not long until the first millennial president in America given that older millennials are now well within the age where they can get taken seriously as political candidates. Certainly there will be millennial governors soon given that there are already Gen X governors who are only slightly older than millennials like Ron De Santis. In Europe there have been multiple millennial prime ministers because European countries usually have much younger political leaders. JD Vance could very easily end up being president soon if the orange dies in office tbh.


Gen Z prime ministers will be a thing in Europe very soon given that European countries have had millennial prime ministers when millennials were still relatively young and some Gen Z are now 29. I can easily imagine a Gen Z prime minister in some Scandinavian country in less time than the gap between now and Covid lockdowns tbh. American presidents tend to be older so most likely no gen z president in America for a while but yeah eventually you’ll have president “fr my g not bussin unc but im rizzin this executive order no cap”.

 

[cathuluelitist]

There's this fantasy that certain types of accelerationists have where they think if things keep getting bad then everything will collapse, the elites will lose all their power, society turns to ashes, and then from the ashes will arise a new socio-economic paradigm...which conveniently will reflect the accelerationist's ideals and it will totally happen in his lifetime too, trust me bro.

If AI doesn't pan out, things will just keep getting worse, just expect more of the same. The only alternative is that we end up with a millennial redditor or a tiktok brained zoomer president, and they make radical changes I don't think anyone here would like.

Another thing is this idea that the elites will lose power, this is obviously wrong, the cosmopolitan elite won't lose power because he isn't restricted by a single peoples noem. A more likely magne is a benevolent elitist aiding the fellahina in reprisal.