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Serious I have great sympathy for 30+ cels

Giracel

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Not just because they have persisted longer (that is self-evident), but because of the times in which they were coming of age. If you were born 1990–95 roughly speaking, you were a teenager in the 2000s and early 2010s. There were times of great style, culture, and mirth. If you were missing out, there was something deeply wrong with you, and you likely stood out obviously. People who made it through such periods alone without roping should be saluted for their mental strength.

People like me and younger who came of age later in the 2010s / early 2020s were surrounded by political chaos of Trump's rise, the emergence of wokeness, the declining of mental health, and of course the Covid-19 pandemic. Because of all this, it was easier to "blend in" so to speak (especially in Covid). There were more excuses for failure, and now, the stereotype of the "incel" is widely known across the internet. In particular, this forum started in late 2017, right when I was beginning HS, which tracks with the timeline I have outlined. Put simply, because everything became worse in general, expectations are lower. That doesn't mean the current situation is somehow acceptable though, to be clear.
 
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To add another hard data point, 2016 is often idolized as a peak year. I would agree that things went downhill sharply after that. And of course that just had to be when I was 13/14 starting teenage.
 
Wizard status
 
I don't know how they are able to cope. I'm not sure how I'll cope if I'm still KHHV when I get into my 30s.
 
don't get too worked up about things being different back then lmao, if you are a loser then that's it

there was never a time when it was cool to be: part of a fucked up family, a sperg, without friends, without lots of pocket money to spend, etc
 
To add another hard data point, 2016 is often idolized as a peak year.
only by retards.
that's a full 4 years after the release of tinder. even if you are focused exclusively on coping, entertainment had hit its peak decades ago, whether you like going to the movies or playing games.
 
the youngest couple that i have ever heard of, that had a "storybook romance" where they met in highschool/college and stayed together forever, were a man and a woman who were both born in 1980 and met in 1999 in college. that was the cut-off point. they were teaching assistants at my university and liked to broadcast their personal life details to the world for whatever reason.

so, that was one good point to cut it, around 1999. after that it must have become incredibly common for women to fuck around and for men to be incels, because i've never heard of any other people having that type of romance unless they were SIGNIFICANTLY OLDER.

those people are now 46 years old lmao.
 
oldcels are really mentally strong to be able to last that long without roping
 
I had a good time in the 90's.
 
the youngest couple that i have ever heard of, that had a "storybook romance" where they met in highschool/college and stayed together forever, were a man and a woman who were both born in 1980 and met in 1999 in college. that was the cut-off point. they were teaching assistants at my university and liked to broadcast their personal life details to the world for whatever reason.

so, that was one good point to cut it, around 1999. after that it must have become incredibly common for women to fuck around and for men to be incels, because i've never heard of any other people having that type of romance unless they were SIGNIFICANTLY OLDER.

those people are now 46 years old lmao.
I have a Chad cousin who is close to 50, he started dating Stacy when they were 12 years old, they have been together since then and have 3 (adult) children. He is a grandfather now.
 
thank you brother, this is so validating. I'm 34 and don't even know how or why I'm still here.
 
I have a Chad cousin who is close to 50, he started dating Stacy when they were 12 years old, they have been together since then and have 3 (adult) children. He is a grandfather now.
Unreal
 
I have a Chad cousin who is close to 50, he started dating Stacy when they were 12 years old, they have been together since then and have 3 (adult) children. He is a grandfather now.
Tbh
 
I'll be 40 this year. Tbh it only gets harder as you get older. Your looks get even worse and you lose what little hope you might have had for a better future.

Hope that helps.
 
To add another hard data point, 2016 is often idolized as a peak year. I would agree that things went downhill sharply after that. And of course that just had to be when I was 13/14 starting teenage.
only by retards.
that's a full 4 years after the release of tinder. even if you are focused exclusively on coping, entertainment had hit its peak decades ago, whether you like going to the movies or playing games.
I never understood the 2016 worship from zoomers. Are you SURE you want to go back to this being blasted everywhere 24/7? Careful what you wish for...

View: https://youtu.be/0zGcUoRlhmw
 
I never understood the 2016 worship from zoomers. Are you SURE you want to go back to this being blasted everywhere 24/7? Careful what you wish for...
In truth I don't remember it that well. My memories are only crisp from about 2018 onward. But holyshit I HATE the Chainsmokers especially their song "Just Like This" (I recall one time I was hearing it in public, with my dad, and I randomly said how I hated it). Degenerate, sexhaver slop songs.
 
I never understood the 2016 worship from zoomers. Are you SURE you want to go back to this being blasted everywhere 24/7? Careful what you wish for...

View: https://youtu.be/0zGcUoRlhmw

weve been through so many eras of shitty music it's unbelievable
i still remember when every video on youtube used this backing music of this fag going "eeeeeeh oh-eh oh-eh, eh oh-eh"
 
I have a Chad cousin who is close to 50, he started dating Stacy when they were 12 years old, they have been together since then and have 3 (adult) children. He is a grandfather now.
That's disgusting that he started dating at that age. He'd probably be happy if his grandkids started fucking at age 5 too
 
I'll be 40 this year. Tbh it only gets harder as you get older. Your looks get even worse and you lose what little hope you might have had for a better future.

Hope that helps.
I can relate. It never began but it's even more over the older you get
 
late 2000s when music really got bad
 
I was born in 1987 and have experience the 90s and 2000s.

It surely was an interesting and great time, despite all the insane bullying, physical assaults and such.

Gaming was my main cope. For a little over a year I would smoke weed and get drunk slightly, every now and then.

But yeah, video games from that time fascinate me to this day.

I wish Sony, Nintendo and Sega would provide brand new slim versions of their first 3D consoles so developers can specifically make retro style games for those consoles.

I would love to do that also. I have tried getting into video game development for the xbox one, but anything past the fifth gen just isn't my cup of tea... .
 
weve been through so many eras of shitty music it's unbelievable
i still remember when every video on youtube used this backing music of this fag going "eeeeeeh oh-eh oh-eh, eh oh-eh"
I think I know what you're talking about but idk cuz you just described like 50 different songs.
 
I think I know what you're talking about but idk cuz you just described like 50 different songs.
i unironically wish i could find that garbage so i can hate it harder

maybe it was around 2011-2012
 
>30+cels
They're called 'Wizards.'
 
don't get too worked up about things being different back then lmao, if you are a loser then that's it
Truth nuke, losers have always existed and always will. There isn't a single point in history where it was pleasant being a loser. Just because people like to LARP as losers today, for whatever reason, doesn't actually make them 'losers' in the sense that incels are losers.
 
THE LOSERPILL IS REAL AND BRUTAL
 
Truth nuke, losers have always existed and always will. There isn't a single point in history where it was pleasant being a loser. Just because people like to LARP as losers today, for whatever reason, doesn't actually make them 'losers' in the sense that incels are losers.
it was cool to not have any friends in 1998 brooooooo :feelzez::feelzez::feelzez:
 
I was born in the late 80s and appreciate your post.
From puberty onwards, I was a (total) outsider and was also occasionally bullied at school. The only one or two real friends I had were in the homeless shelter during the 2010s.
 
To add another hard data point, 2016 is often idolized as a peak year.
The 2000s mog 2016 brutal.
Dating apps and smartphones already existed in the mid-2010s. The 2000s not only saw the peak of the internet, but also offered realistic chances for a 5/10 guy (for example) to find success through online dating.
There were numerous forums, (regional) chats, etc.; simping was still within limits, and foids weren't as arrogant as they are today.
I was able to chat with at least a few foids, but my looks and social phobia prevented more.
 
Same here lol
 
I never understood the 2016 worship from zoomers. Are you SURE you want to go back to this being blasted everywhere 24/7? Careful what you wish for...

View: https://youtu.be/0zGcUoRlhmw

Exactly. That was already a "woke" time; all that crap was already going on.
This was already increasingly noticeable in the early 2010s.
My childhood in the 90s or even the 2000s didn't just feel like a different time.
Since I was about 17/18, I have been interested in social, political and historical topics. That means I've been observing the changing zeitgeist for quite some time now. I was also never the typical normie, like other boys my age.
Every now and then I say that I absolutely do not envy today's youth when I see how much crap they are bombarded with.
 
I think the only thing I have going on for me is that I'm KHV instead of KHHV as a wizardcel, hopefully I don't get a warning with this post.
 
It only gets more brutal as you age
 
as an old-as-dirt cel, im only able to cope by being pretty much numb to everything. The only emotion I have felt for a decade is anger.

I have multiple chronic health issues and my life just keeps getting worse and worse, every year is worse than the last

I have just barely enough energy to make it thru the day (well, usually not quite enough) and at this rate will probably be disabled soon
 
I was born in the late 80s and appreciate your post.
From puberty onwards, I was a (total) outsider and was also occasionally bullied at school. The only one or two real friends I had were in the homeless shelter during the 2010s.
Must have been very hard being both an outsider and homeless. Sorry you had to go through that.
 
Must have been very hard being both an outsider and homeless.
Being homeless wasn't so bad. In Germany, you can be put up in special accommodation if you want. I didn't have to sleep outside.
 
That's disgusting that he started dating at that age.
it is not. that is normal age. i matured sexually into an adult way before being 12.
 
I'll be there soon...2 more years or less
 
internet was bad in the beginning in terms of finding women there, since it was almost male-only space, women were not using it
 
fuck you weirdo

the 2000s and 2010s were shit, facebook was already popular by 2006 and women were glued to social media ever since

Dating market was already dogshit because women's brains were fried from all the TV and movies
 
I think the only thing I have going on for me is that I'm KHV instead of KHHV as a wizardcel, hopefully I don't get a warning with this post.
If it's hugless that you lost that's ok. Getting a platonic hug especially when younger is a thing that can happen. But if it's handholdless then idk.
 
If it's hugless that you lost that's ok. Getting a platonic hug especially when younger is a thing that can happen. But if it's handholdless then idk.

Ye it was a hug, handhold maybe in kindergarten but that doesn't count.
 
grats you wrote 4 words moron. Get stuffed in the locker nerd
Most people here were either grateful to be recognized or if they disagreed, provided reasons respectfully. You on the other hand are acting like a retarded HS jock bully which is completely antithetical to inceldom.

I don't think I've ignored anyone to this point but that ends tonight.
 
Thank you. Maybe i survive due to late blackpill exposure. Only after 2018 i realized that something was going on.
 
I was born in the late 80s and appreciate your post.
From puberty onwards, I was a (total) outsider and was also occasionally bullied at school. The only one or two real friends I had were in the homeless shelter during the 2010s.
Darf ich fragen, warum du ein Außenseiter warst?
Ich war natürlich immer einer, wegen meines Aussehens und meinem Autismus und Sprachdefizit.
Heute im Zug, hat ein "älterer Herr" ziemlich laut am Handy geredet und gesagt "bin mir gar nicht sicher ob das ein Mensch ist," und schaut mich an. Ein paar Schulmädchen und ein anderer alter Mann haben auch über mich gelästert. Das war in meiner Pubertät nicht anders. Wurde genau deswegen auch gemobbt.
 

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