Serious I hate the endless "self improve", goalpost moving bullshit that gets spouted at us so often

[Deleted member 8353]

While it's most common among redpillers, it's also pretty prevalent among normies and even some users here.

I have one question to ask, why is it that I have to "be better" than average? As what this is more or less saying, is that being an average man isn't good enough. Now you'd think that this alone would make people acknowledge the blackpill, but most people have some insane mental gymnastics skills(and apparently don't even listen to themselves talk), however that's besides the point of this post. The point is, if you're telling me that being average isn't enough to find a mate, then society is already broken beyond all repair and it's not worth it either way.

If holding a job while being in decent physical health isn't even close to enough to get me a looksmatched wife/girlfriend, then any invested effort is almost certainly not going to be worth the reward. Not only that, but due to the entire notion of "average", this isn't even an option for the majority of sub 5 men anyway, and as we know, people don't tell Chad/Chadlite to do anything of the sort. As it stands right now, I'm expected to move mountains for a chance at a 30+ obese(possible single mother) foid, years away from now, and regardless of my lack of capacity to even do that, I'd simply rather remain a virgin with my waifu if that's the only possible alternative for me.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

they'll just continue moving the goalpost until enough time has been wasted following their bullshit advice and if the results don't map unto what they promised (they wont) they'll just say that it doesn't matter as you're not entitled to women's (:soy:) bodies anyway

 

[Deleted member 8353]

they'll just continue moving the goalpost until enough time has been wasted following their bullshit advice and if the results don't map unto what they promised (they wont) they'll just say that it doesn't matter as you're not entitled to women's (:SOY:) bodies anyway

Exactly, it's all nonsense. If foids haven't been attracted to you for your entire life, then they're not going to be attracted to you no matter what you do. The only exceptions to this would be if you lose a substantial amount of weight, or get lots of surgery, that is if you can afford it in time for it to matter. But otherwise, self improving with no end in sight isn't going to make you more attractive.

 

[Deleted member 8884]

Redpillers. The only copers I hate more than them are the normies. Anyways you make a good point that having a job and being in shape should be enough for a loyal foid. Unfortunately this isn't the case as foids are entitled AF (srs) they all want the best chad they can get. We're left to rot in our rooms and told to stop being entitled. I hate this world.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

As it stands right now, I'm expected to move mountains for a chance at a 30+ obese(possible single mother) foid, years away from now, and regardless of my lack of capacity to even do that, I'd simply rather remain a virgin with my waifu if that's the only possible alternative for me.

This is the most painful part, knowing how true this is. You'll find that most guys know this but don't care and are willing to take the scraps, which means nothing is ever going to change, not in our lifetime at least.

 

[johnnyb]

not to mention that even if a foid did show interest in you the inevitable conclusion in westernized society is her getting bored of you and cheating, leaving your entire life in shambles as you built your existence up around the one foid who showed interest. theres literally no reason to pursue any foid in the west if you have reached adulthood as a virgin, even if one did show interest in your older age. the only thing to do is run 3rd world game pump and dump and extort the locals for your own survival in that place.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

This is the most painful part, knowing how true this is. You'll find that most guys know this but don't care and are willing to take the scraps, which means nothing is ever going to change, not in our lifetime at least.

The only solution is to find and hold onto every last bit of happiness you can muster until you die, or alternatively until you decide to rope. There is no point in thinking too much about the hopelessness as that's just going to make you feel worse.

 

[Angry_runt]

Just a quick sanity check: there was a piss bottle thread here yesterday. There's a bunch of NEETs here. Fatcels. And there are teenage "incels" who don't even try and who think it's over because they're a little below average height or they don't like how their face looks.

Most people will benefit from self improvement and going to the gym and other normie-tier advice. Some of us won't, but for the well-meaning advice dispensers, it's either tell you to self improve anyway or to just give up.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Just a quick sanity check: there was a piss bottle thread here yesterday. There's a bunch of NEETs here. Fatcels. And there are teenage "incels" who don't even try and who think it's over because they're a little below average height or they don't like how their face looks.

Most people will benefit from self improvement and going to the gym and other normie-tier advice. Some of us won't, but for the well-meaning advice dispensers, it's either tell you to self improve anyway or to just give up.

That's why I specifically mentioned having a job and being in decent shape, if you're at that point then no amount of self improvement can help you. Or at the very least, it's not going to be worth it, as betabuxxing never really is.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Everything with them is circular reasoning. If you do what they suggest, the goalpost will just keep moving until they run of ideas that they pulled out of their ass.

 

[michael2222]

While it's most common among redpillers, it's also pretty prevalent among normies and even some users here.

I have one question to ask, why is it that I have to "be better" than average? As what this is more or less saying, is that being an average man isn't good enough. Now you'd think that this alone would make people acknowledge the blackpill, but most people have some insane mental gymnastics skills(and apparently don't even listen to themselves talk), however that's besides the point of this post. The point is, if you're telling me that being average isn't enough to find a mate, then society is already broken beyond all repair and it's not worth it either way.

If holding a job while being in decent physical health isn't even close to enough to get me a looksmatched wife/girlfriend, then any invested effort is almost certainly not going to be worth the reward. Not only that, but due to the entire notion of "average", this isn't even an option for the majority of sub 5 men anyway, and as we know, people don't tell Chad/Chadlite to do anything of the sort. As it stands right now, I'm expected to move mountains for a chance at a 30+ obese(possible single mother) foid, years away from now, and regardless of my lack of capacity to even do that, I'd simply rather remain a virgin with my waifu if that's the only possible alternative for me.

The worst part is when they say all your self improvement has only brought you up the "minimum".

For example they will preach about being a nice person and having a good personality, and when you say you have that suddenly being 'nice' is the bare minimum and you still have allot of work to do

 

[Deleted member 8353]

The worst part is when they say all your self improvement has only brought you up the "minimum".

For example they will preach about being a nice person and having a good personality, and when you say you have that suddenly being 'nice' is the bare minimum and you still have allot of work to do

That's exactly what I mean, they're absolute goalpost moving bullshitters.

 

[Saung-Hui Cho]

My friend had a cynical doctor tell him he might as well “win the lottery” to solve his problems. I think that’s realistic. The fact that people think one piece of advice is going to change things is ridiculous. My friend told me I have to work on my “confidence.” What the fuck do I have to be confident about?

 

[michael2222]

My friend had a cynical doctor tell him he might as well “win the lottery” to solve his problems. I think that’s realistic. The fact that people think one piece of advice is going to change things is ridiculous. My friend told me I have to work on my “confidence.” What the fuck do I have to be confident about?

I hate the "be confident" crap. The only confident people are women, Chads, and low IQ narcissists.

 

[Hell]

Just a quick sanity check: there was a piss bottle thread here yesterday. There's a bunch of NEETs here. Fatcels. And there are teenage "incels" who don't even try and who think it's over because they're a little below average height or they don't like how their face looks.

Most people will benefit from self improvement and going to the gym and other normie-tier advice. Some of us won't, but for the well-meaning advice dispensers, it's either tell you to self improve anyway or to just give up.

I used to be a LDAR NEET like that and then I fell for the self improvement meme because it was either that or rope and ended up reaching what was pretty much my natural level cap.

All it did was make me even more bitter and angry because after expending far more effort than most people will ever even be capable of I am still deemed unworthy by lazy holes that do nothing but lay about and spread their legs for Chad.
I get it, I'm not le entitled to the same happiness that the vast majority of the population is apparently entitled to. But that doesn't mean I have to cuck out and take it lying down.

 

[FinnCel]

Also think it this way.
There are so many guys trying to find a woman.
If all of them start improving themselves, then every guy's smv gets elevated amd thus, no progress has been made.
It is required that some guys don't self improve.

The competition just gets harder and harder the more you self improve.
It's over

 

[Deleted member 10124]

While it's most common among redpillers, it's also pretty prevalent among normies and even some users here.

I have one question to ask, why is it that I have to "be better" than average? As what this is more or less saying, is that being an average man isn't good enough. Now you'd think that this alone would make people acknowledge the blackpill, but most people have some insane mental gymnastics skills(and apparently don't even listen to themselves talk), however that's besides the point of this post. The point is, if you're telling me that being average isn't enough to find a mate, then society is already broken beyond all repair and it's not worth it either way.

If holding a job while being in decent physical health isn't even close to enough to get me a looksmatched wife/girlfriend, then any invested effort is almost certainly not going to be worth the reward. Not only that, but due to the entire notion of "average", this isn't even an option for the majority of sub 5 men anyway, and as we know, people don't tell Chad/Chadlite to do anything of the sort. As it stands right now, I'm expected to move mountains for a chance at a 30+ obese(possible single mother) foid, years away from now, and regardless of my lack of capacity to even do that, I'd simply rather remain a virgin with my waifu if that's the only possible alternative for me.

It's done to get you out of the picture & the scene for good to chase a Holy Grail figurine. That's all. I've come to this realisation as well. They don't give a fuck for you. They just want you either silent or if you're going to speak then out of the scene.

they'll just continue moving the goalpost until enough time has been wasted following their bullshit advice and if the results don't map unto what they promised (they wont) they'll just say that it doesn't matter as you're not entitled to women's (:soy:) bodies anyway

TRUTH.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I used to be a LDAR NEET like that and then I fell for the self improvement meme because it was either that or rope and ended up reaching what was pretty much my natural level cap.

All it did was make me even more bitter and angry because after expending far more effort than most people will ever even be capable of I am still deemed unworthy by lazy holes that do nothing but lay about and spread their legs for Chad.
I get it, I'm not le entitled to the same happiness that the vast majority of the population is apparently entitled to. But that doesn't mean I have to cuck out and take it lying down.

I believe that having a job and being healthy are reasonable standards, but the problem is that society doesn't seem to think that this is doing even close to enough as a sub 5 male.

 

[TheGambler2]

Retarded normies(like IT)think that we all are fat basement dwellers like this

This is the view they see when they hear a word "incel",this is what they associate us with.I agree that if everyone was like this they could lose weight,get a haircut,shower and potentially turn into normie or better.But they don't realise that a lot of us are looksmaxxing,or tried it in the past.I gymcel regularly,always have styled and washed hair,put perfume on everytime I go out,dress well and don't just walk around hating women.Where is my girlfriend then,normtards?

 

[Player]

Self-improve is useless because of halo effect.

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

Even after you improve your self they will keep continue to tell you to work harder till you work yourself to death.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Just a quick sanity check: there was a piss bottle thread here yesterday. There's a bunch of NEETs here. Fatcels. And there are teenage "incels" who don't even try and who think it's over because they're a little below average height or they don't like how their face looks.

Most people will benefit from self improvement and going to the gym and other normie-tier advice. Some of us won't, but for the well-meaning advice dispensers, it's either tell you to self improve anyway or to just give up.

 

[Deleted member 18435]

Redpillers. The only copers I hate more than them are the normies. Anyways you make a good point that having a job and being in shape should be enough for a loyal foid. Unfortunately this isn't the case as foids are entitled AF (srs) they all want the best chad they can get. We're left to rot in our rooms and told to stop being entitled. I hate this world.

 

[ihaveno1]

High iq.

 

[Deleted member 18435]

I used to be a LDAR NEET like that and then I fell for the self improvement meme because it was either that or rope and ended up reaching what was pretty much my natural level cap.

All it did was make me even more bitter and angry because after expending far more effort than most people will ever even be capable of I am still deemed unworthy by lazy holes that do nothing but lay about and spread their legs for Chad.
I get it, I'm not le entitled to the same happiness that the vast majority of the population is apparently entitled to. But that doesn't mean I have to cuck out and take it lying down.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Self-improve is useless because of halo effect.

 

[seija]

The only reason that I would attempt to looksmaxx and do any of the redpill shit is only for my own health and myself only.

 

[Hikikomori]

Good to see OP understands it's all bullshit.

 

[Anoncel123]

I just gymcelling (specifically calisthenics) because I want to be healthy and strong, only that. Improving myself for getting attention of foids it's useless, they always ignored me and they will forever.

I'd simply rather remain a virgin with my waifu if that's the only possible alternative for me.

This is my future, ngl.

 

[Akhnai]

Also think it this way.
There are so many guys trying to find a woman.
If all of them start improving themselves, then every guy's smv gets elevated amd thus, no progress has been made.
It is required that some guys don't self improve.

The competition just gets harder and harder the more you self improve.
It's over

 

[Emba]

The shifting goalpost reminds me of that Charlie Brown cartoon where Lucy snatches away the football so Charlie lands on his ass. She does it every single time.

Yet Charlie keeps falling for it.

Don't be like Charlie Brown.