Wizard32 said:
Incorrect: there is no "legal" definition of pedophile.
There is a DSM definition which does not list a specific range as you have, instead it simply specifies "prepubescent" (before puberty) and that for at least 6 months you need to have a consistent and prominent attraction to them and either "has acted on these sexual urges, or the urges have caused serious distress."
Further elaboration would be useful: like I assume it only refers to direct distress (ie "I'm going to kill myself because I hate being this way") but it remains unclear if it would also include indirect distress ("I hate that people want to kill me for being this way")
As for what "acts on it" refers to, I assume that means sexual acts with a prepubescent child and not something silly like fapping to a fantasy.
After all it also requires "at least 16 years of age and at least 5 years older than his or her victim"
Fapping is victimless so "acts on it" I think must mean you actually do something w/ someone IRL and don't just read loli manga and fuck onaholes sold with lolis on the box (don't import those, btw, bad idea)
Hebephile doesn't even have a DSM defniition though there was an attempt to add it in DSM5 it failed I believe.
There are guys in 20s/30s who don't own a car and can't pay rent too, I think we're looking for other criteria besides this.
11 is the median age for puberty for foids, but it can start between 8 and 14 so there's probably a signiicant protion (let's say 20%) who have begun it by 10.
you don't really think they legit fail to see it, don't you?
they jsut want to lump you in with more extreme situations as a way of silencing/canceling you
they know if you fight it they'll just dox you or anyone who defends you so they win
>>There is a DSM definition which does not list a specific range as you have, instead it simply specifies "prepubescent" (before puberty) and that for at least 6 months you need to have a consistent and prominent attraction to them and either "has acted on these sexual urges, or the urges have caused serious distress.">>
I mean The term pedophile refers to prepubescent males and females it's literally in the name pedophile and there is a general range it's 0 to 11 but i raised it to 12 because well it's still that early stage.
>>Further elaboration would be useful: like I assume it only refers to direct distress (ie "I'm going to kill myself because I hate being this way") but it remains unclear if it would also include indirect distress ("I hate that people want to kill me for being this way")
As for what "acts on it" refers to, I assume that means sexual acts with a prepubescent child and not something silly like fapping to a fantasy.
After all it also requires "at least 16 years of age and at least 5 years older than his or her victim"
Fapping is victimless so "acts on it" I think must mean you actually do something w/ someone IRL and don't just read loli manga and fuck onaholes sold with lolis on the box (don't import those, btw, bad idea)>>
In this context i'm referring to direct contact the person i was arguing against specifically thought it would be right to call males who are 30 and are sexually interested in 18 year olds paedophiles because apparently 18 year olds can't think like an adult like imagine the mental acuity 1 has to lack to make such a statement.
>>Hebephile doesn't even have a DSM defniition though there was an attempt to add it in DSM5 it failed I believe.>>
Hebophile refers to attraction to pubescent boys between the ages of 11 to 14 basically people who are in the tanner stage 2 of puberty there is overlap but the upper and lower bands are very clearly differentiates the 2.
>>There are guys in 20s/30s who don't own a car and can't pay rent too, I think we're looking for other criteria besides this.>>
Well they can get a car and they can pay rent children can't do this that was my original point there is a lot more freedom mentally that is possible with a 18 year old that a 16 to 14 year old lacks.
>>11 is the median age for puberty for foids, but it can start between 8 and 14 so there's probably a signiicant protion (let's say 20%) who have begun it by 10.>>
That wouldn't disprove persay what i said cause there is stages of puberty 11 is the base line, it's tanner 1 puberty it overlaps with hebophilia.