I meant that guys want to pretend traps aren't gay because they look feminine, that's why I mentioned the skirt.
I'm thinking the distinction here is that you do not consider a transvestite / transgender / transexual "MtF" who wants to fuck women to be a 'trap'?
I think arguably that could still be an accurate description, with the distinction being it's a trap set for lesbians instead of heterosexual men.
You're still trapping a gynephile into relations with a presumed-female who actually is not, regardless of the target.
That's only if there's deception though. Trannies who are open about their history wouldn't qualify as a "trap" to me, since if all cards are on the table, if someone jumps into that, it's on them.
Of course then the debate is something like "well when should they declare it?" because they want to avoid violence and stuff.
I would say at least before sex, because whatever your views on deception/rape are, if the intention is to avoid violence, the type of person to beat the shit out of a tranny if they find out after kissing is probably the type of person to murder one if they found out after fucking.
It seems 100% understandable if those who can pass aren't upfront about it until feeling out a potential friend/date on their views/tolerances. That said: I think perhaps you should be coy and not kiss someone until you've actually "come out" to them about your status.
It's not as important as stuff like having an STD but it's a big part of your life/personality and I would say the same thing if you had any kind of extreme cultish religious views that someone might want to know about before getting involved with you. Better to just lay cards on the table so someone doesn't feel violated if learning about who you are later on grosses them out.
"Crying Game" for example has Dil reveal status to Fergus before sex, so even if you consider Dil a "trap" prior to that, Dil ceases to be a trap to Fergus at that point since now he is aware of the truth.
BTW trannies: hope you don't get too offended about this term, I just like shortforms like "jap" and I love Japan. I'm actually hip to your culture, read Venus Envy, watched all of Wandering Son and ParaKiss, etc.
TBH the main reason I haven't fucked a tranny is most of them just are nowhere near to passing so they're gross. It's pure standardscel just like avoiding landwhales.
There's probably also a mentalcel aspect to it because as consciously tolerant as I try to be, I am concerned that subconscious disgust / transphobia / homophobia would make me regret the experience (ie the konata comic, post-coping) which I'm sure would be upsetting for such a partner too, who I would think wants someone who accepts that part about them. Even though finding someone who accepts all of our hidden depths can be increasingly hard (ie those who like to read loli manga or watch toons like me probably aren't going to mention this to a foid we're trying to ascend with on Tinder)
Another is that I do somewhat embrace some of the prejudices that exist against trans / gays / blacks in relationship to correlations of mental illness and crime. I am very paranoid about other people doing theft/violence towards me, or even towards others and me getting caught up in it.
There also exists the element of my cowardice: I would be afraid of gay-bashers and my being expected to fight to defend a partner. So I would avoid for a similar reason that I would avoid a girl with a jealous ex-boyfriend who might beat me up. Perhaps these elements will go away if I get fitter, learn to fight, get concealed carry permit, fortified house, mutual alliances with neighbors to back each other up, etc.
Such kinds of social bonding and development are hard for those of us who have trouble interacting with others though.
Also I kind of want to impregnate a white woman to preserve a future for the white race and gays/trans (much like negresses and other ethnic women) can't do that for me, so I would want tolerance for my unrealistic polyamorous aspirations. The next best thing would be to adopt a white kid and try to steer them away from the ruins of leftism. The vast majority of ethnic women and trans/gays worship the fraudulent anti-white leftists trying to sink civilization, so that is another major reason they would not be compatible IMO as co-mentors to a new generation.
