Experiment Hypothetical: If Inceldia became a nation, what would its politics be?

[MarquisDeSade]

If a hypothetical nation of incels was created, what kind of political government structure would lead it?

For me it would an authoritarian Marxist and communist political regime, what would be yours? This thread is devoted to political, social, and economic debate of what a hypothetical future nation of incels would look like.

 

[ElTruecel]

Esoteric Fascism

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Esoteric Fascism

Why?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Marxism Rodgerism

 

[Suicel]

Very left wing. You cannot advocate for the fair distribution of women, but not other material goods, that makes little sense.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

Strict patriarchy (obviously)
Women rights similiar to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan
Capitalist regime
Liberal drugs and medicine laws for more cope

 

[ElTruecel]

Why?

Best way for us Incels to be disciplined and live under a traditional authoritarian society. however we will be far more lenient with Incels than with normies. Also we will all become Perennialists and start mediating attempting to access the Akashic records

 

[Waco]

Feudal Absolute Monarchy

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Very left wing. You cannot advocate for the fair distribution of women, but not other material goods, that makes little sense.

 

[PLA1092]

Authoritarian state capitalism with policies to help end inceldom (for the most part) and make the nation as culturally and socially homogenous as possible, discrimination against sub 5s would be outlawed and regarded in the same manner as people today regard the slavery of blacks. The movement and actions of foids would be strictly regulated especially as far as sexual activity goes, sex outside of marriage would mean you're basically worn out at that point and you would be used for breeding/labor purposes.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Marxism Rodgerism

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Strict patriarchy (obviously)
Women rights similiar to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan
Capitalist regime
Liberal drugs and medicine laws for more cope

My problem with economic capitalism besides its more obvious economic inequalities is that it doubles or quadruples female hypergamic vaginal capitalism.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

My problem with economic capitalism besides its more obvious economic inequalities is that it doubles or quadruples female hypergamic vaginal capitalism.

Feminism and emancipation of the woman is responsible for the out of conrol hypergamy and not capitalism

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Best way for us Incels to be disciplined and live under a traditional authoritarian society. however we will be far more lenient with Incels than with normies. Also we will all become Perennialists and start mediating attempting to access the Akashic records

The problem with fascism is twofold, its cultural and sexual eugenics added with its perception firmly rooted in Social Darwinism. This is the antithesis of inceldom.

 

[My Name Jeff]

I'd have to think a dictatorship. I can't see a nation with forced incel ideology functioning well democratically.

 

[Draconian Times]

Any system that socializes pussy and prioritizes men over women is high IQ in my book.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Feudal Absolute Monarchy

Monarchy is the oldest and long lasting form of political government in the world globally, supposing it was a Social Monarchy I suppose it wouldn't be so bad, however, monarchies are also prone to constant civil wars as well. Such has been the case all throughout its history or implementation.

 

[ElTruecel]

The problem with fascism is twofold, its cultural and sexual eugenics added with its perception firmly rooted in Social Darwinism. This is the antithesis of inceldom.

It’s not eugenic?

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I'd have to think a dictatorship. I can't see a nation with forced incel ideology functioning well democratically.

Democracies never last very long, whether it was Athenian Democracy or Iceland's Althing.

 

[Waco]

monarchies are also prone to constant civil wars as well. Such has been the case all throughout its history or implementation.

Whatever happens, happens

 

[mrlunatic]

If a hypothetical nation of incels was created, what kind of political government structure would lead it?

For me it would an authoritarian Marxist and communist political regime, what would be yours? This thread is devoted to political, social, and economic debate of what a hypothetical future nation of incels would look like.

My ideal one would be one without any kind. Always leads to corruption

Personally i would leave the people upto Darwinism

 

[MarquisDeSade]

It’s not eugenic?

That's the problem with political fascism, in virtually all cases of political fascism they have all revolved around sexual eugenic initiatives.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

My ideal one would be one without any kind. Always leads to corruption

Personally i would leave the people upto Darwinism

Anarchy isn't real and anarchism politically or philosophically has always been disingenuous. As incels, isn't Social Darwinism the very thing we're fighting against?

 

[ElTruecel]

That's the problem with political fascism, in virtually all cases of political fascism they have all revolved around sexual eugenic initiatives.

Trust me it isn’t

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Whatever happens, happens

Well, there's certainly no denying that.

 

[ElTruecel]

That's the problem with political fascism, in virtually all cases of political fascism they have all revolved around sexual eugenic initiatives.

Obviously we would try to lower any side affects that may stunt the child but not through shit like eugenics. It would be by making sure our society is healthy, happy and doesn’t have toxic chemicals & carcinogens everywhere.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Trust me it isn’t

How so? Name one fascist government where the ideology of sexual eugenics hasn't played a role of some kind.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Obviously we would try to lower any side affects that may stunt the child but not through shit like eugenics. It would be by making sure our society is healthy, happy and doesn’t have toxic chemicals & carcinogens everywhere.

I agree with your premise, but I don't see a fascist government delivering any of that.

 

[Waco]

Well, there's certainly no denying that.

Everything is bound to fail at the end.
Monarchies were prone to civil wars but they were also very resilient and lasted for a long time.

 

[ElTruecel]

How so? Name one fascist government where the ideology of sexual eugenics hasn't played a role of some kind.

Read my other recent government. Also under leaders like Mussolini there wasn’t eugenics and under national socialist Germany (not exactly fascist) it wasn’t as common as people made it out to be

 

[ElTruecel]

How so? Name one fascist government where the ideology of sexual eugenics hasn't played a role of some kind.

Why would it not

 

[Old Ironsides]

authoritarian capitalism w/ minor socialism such as government provided foids if needed





over mang

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Monarchy is the oldest and long lasting form of political government in the world globally, supposing it was a Social Monarchy I suppose it wouldn't be so bad, however, monarchies are also prone to constant civil wars as well. Such has been the case all throughout its history or implementation.

You suggest "an authoritarian Marxist and communist political regime", but what makes an authoritarian regime crucially different from a monarchy so as to not lead to constant civil wars?

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Everything is bound to fail at the end.
Monarchies were prone to civil wars but they were also very resilient and lasted for a long time.

I will definitely give you that, monarchy as a form of government is very resilient and concerning years of human history has lasted longer than any other form of government. Another problem besides constant civil war in monarchical societies is it being prone to corruption of absolute rule, however, you could argue that such is the case in virtually all different kinds of governments.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Everything is bound to fail at the end.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Why would it not

Because wherever fascism is implemented historically the ideological concept of sexual eugenics has always been present.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Another problem besides constant civil war in monarchical societies is it being prone to corruption of absolute rule, however, you could argue that such is the case in virtually all kinds of governments.

Yup. You say "virtually" tho. What types of government do you think exempt from such corruption? I think it might just always boil down to that.

 

[Robespierre]

Apocalyptic technocracy. All government efforts must be directed toward the destruction of all life on Earth.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

You suggest "an authoritarian Marxist and communist political regime", but what makes an authoritarian regime crucially different from a monarchy so as to not lead to constant civil wars?

In a communist government there is suppose to be checks and balances ran by the political inner party or vanguard. The entire government is based upon redistribution of the oppressed against a political social economic class of oppressors, under Monarchy there is no such checks or balances, that isn't to say they can't exist under a benevolent monarch, however, not all monarchs as history alludes are benevolent.

 

[mrlunatic]

Anarchy isn't real and anarchism politically or philosophically has always been disingenuous. As incels, isn't Social Darwinism the very thing we're fighting against?

Hmm. I think the world we live in is controlled Darwinism. Meaning the high tier people get the most, but it's not like the low tier people are erased, innit ?

We wouldn't have existed if it was pure Darwinism. We would've been erased out of existence.

And who's to blame for this fucked up system that has been created?

Yea, politics never goes right. Pure Darwinism aka nature's way is best tbh.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Yup. You say "virtually" tho. What types of government do you think exempt from such corruption? I think it might just always boil down to that.

I suppose I would say all forms of government are prone to government corruption no matter what, some less than others, but it will always persist no matter what.

 

[ElTruecel]

Because wherever fascism is implemented historically the ideological concept of sexual eugenics has always been present.

Imma have to disagree cuz that hasn’t been seen to the extent we see it in those governments

 

[Ahnfeltia]

In a communist government there is suppose to be checks and balances ran by the political inner party or vanguard. The entire government is based upon redistribution of the oppressed against a political social economic class of oppressors, under Monarchy there is no such checks or balances, that isn't to say they can't exist under a benevolent monarch, however, not all monarchs as history alludes are benevolent.

What guarantee have you that the party as a whole won't go corrupt? Democracy as the West currently knows it is supposed to have such checks and balances as well, but you know how well they've worked. I get that no political system is immune to corruption, but I fail to see how what you're proposing would be more resilient than, say, democracy.

I suppose I would say all forms of government are prone to government corruption no matter what, some less than others, but it will always persist no matter what.

Yeah, that sounds fair.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Hmm. I think the world we live in is controlled Darwinism. Meaning the high tier people get the most, but it's not like the low tier people are erased, innit ?

We wouldn't have existed if it was pure Darwinism. We would've been erased out of existence.

And who's to blame for this fucked up system that has been created?

Yea, politics never goes right.

Pure natural Social Darwinism is the primordial state of existence in this world, yes, but as human beings with a propensity for higher brain power we're inclined to transcend above that for if we don't, it makes us no better than primitive beasts that inhabit this world. If human civilization insists on reverting back to this natural pure primordial state of Social Darwinism the only outcome will be human civilization destroying itself. It's certainly in a realm of possibilities looking at this world presently, but in my mind it is something we should try to avoid if possible. Anarchy however isn't real, there's always a political power structure at play that fills the vacuum whether it be a tribal chieftain or warlord at even the smallest tribal level.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Apocalyptic technocracy. All government efforts must be directed toward the destruction of all life on Earth.

Spotted the thread antinatalist.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Imma have to disagree cuz that hasn’t been seen to the extent we see it in those governments

Once again, name a single fascist government where sexual eugenics hasn't been paramount.

 

[Ahnfeltia]

What guarantee have you that the party as a whole won't go corrupt? Democracy as the West currently knows it is supposed to have such checks and balances as well, but you know how well they've worked. I get that no political system is immune to corruption, but I fail to see how what you're proposing would be more resilient than, say, democracy.

I realized I just shifted the goalpost. My bad. I guess I kinda took monarchy and oligarchy under one umbrella. In practice unbridled monarchy is pretty rare I think.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

What guarantee have you that the party as a whole won't go corrupt? Democracy as the West currently knows it is supposed to have such checks and balances as well, but you know how well they've worked. I get that no political system is immune to corruption, but I fail to see how what you're proposing would be more resilient than, say, democracy.

Yeah, that sounds fair.

Ultimately there are no guarantees of anything, that is always the flaw or error of any kind of human government politically. For me the way I see things is that here in the west private corporations dominates government, whereas under a more socialist form of government the state dominates over all forms of private corporations. In my interpretation of things, privatization leads to more corruption not less, which is why I'm a big critic of liberal or libertarian forms of thinking.

 

[Cope or die]

If a hypothetical nation of incels was created, what kind of political government structure would lead it?

For me it would an authoritarian Marxist and communist political regime, what would be yours? This thread is devoted to political, social, and economic debate of what a hypothetical future nation of incels would look like.

We should be apolitical or libertarian. No government, no taxes, no police. Probably a military for self defense but thats it.

Also we would need foids to reproduce or no? We should enslave or capture foids for breeding purposes only.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I realized I just shifted the goalpost. My bad. I guess I kinda took monarchy and oligarchy under one umbrella. In practice unbridled monarchy is pretty rare I think.

The bad thing about monarchy is sometimes you get the likes of Caligula, however, there are benevolent monarchs like Marcus Aurelius or Caesar Augustus. Not all monarchies are oligarchical in nature, but as history has shown, once the merchant class becomes too powerful monarchies become weakened from within.