Based HTN + NT is the goal

[Draconian Times]

I am never going to be highly attractive. My goal is to become a neurotypical high-tier-normie. That is feasible for a young man with a good base like me.

High-tier-normie as in good hair, good skin, good eye area, low body fat percentage, a rather athletic body, good hygiene, and a sense of style.

Neurotypical as in sociable, low in neuroticism, talkative, somewhat agreeable, respectful, humourous, articulate, and clever.

I do not have the genetic potential to become a Chad. I have the genetic potential to become a neurotypical high-tier-normie, however, and that is what I should be pursuing. And before anyone says one has to be a Chad in order to have sex with multiple women, there are countless examples of the contrary. Of course, being a Chad is always better, but it is not an "either or" situation. Also, I do not live in the West, so the competition is not as absurd as it is there.

Examples of middle-tier-normie to high-tier-normie ascensions:

Before

After

Before

After

What do you think: cope or down-to-earth?

 

[Moroccancel]

Fakecels is what I see here. @itsOVER biggest fakecel this forum has seen.

 

[wantedwanter]

the goal for what? you even said yourself that this guarantees nothing.

 

[Med Amine]

you can't go from being an incel to an HTN with lookmaxxing unless you're using hard lookmaxxing with a ton of surgeries to support it.
what's your stats? and are you ready to pay money to get to the HTN teritory and ascned.
also even if you're just a MTN you can still ascend but it's just harder. and CR7 made a ton of mouth and skin surgeries to look the way he looks now

 

[Robb97]

It doesn't make a difference retard. Your genetic quality is written into your bone structure. And your age is written in your soft features.

Millions of years of evolution have made foids in such a way that they can evaluate your genetic quality in a few seconds when looking at you.

Do you really think you can trick evolution with a haircut jfl

Foids have a supercomputer in their skull and its main purpose is to find chad. You won't trick that computer with a haircut or a skin care routine and some nice clothes.

Spoiler

You might be able to trick their brain with plastic surgery and hard drugs to make you more NT

 

[Saint Cho]

High-tier normies still need NT to ascend. Just browse looksmax.org, lots of HTN spergs with no social skills.

 

[Mortis]

Fakecels is what I see here. @itsOVER biggest fakecel this forum has seen.

most cumskins here are like him

 

[ElTruecel]

Fakecels is what I see here. @itsOVER biggest fakecel this forum has seen.

True

 

[ElTruecel]

you can't go from being an incel to an HTN with lookmaxxing unless you're using hard lookmaxxing with a ton of surgeries to support it.
what's your stats? and are you ready to pay money to get to the HTN teritory and ascned.
also even if you're just a MTN you can still ascend but it's just harder. and CR7 made a ton of mouth and skin surgeries to look the way he looks now

It depends on your base and how looks minned you are