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Serious How ugly are you guys?

Yes, a 6ft5 4/10 can get laid.
Yes but he may not be able to find his looksmatch. He would have to settle down for landwhales. Hipergamy keeps rising.
 
WHO THE FUCK FIND HIS LOOKSMATCH IN 2020 ?
Fucking giels below your looksmatch is not ascension its descension and not worth it. Better fuck an escort.
 
unless you're a 2/10 you're not incel when way above the average height.
According to who?
We have suicidal virgins who are tall as fuck
@Personalityinkwell why do people deny this jfl?
 
According to who?
We have suicidal virgins who are tall as fuck
@Personalityinkwell why do people deny this jfl?
jfl, any sub5 face can easily be incel

even if you're tall, a 4/10 face could be enough to make you incel

a sub4 face is automatic death sentence
 
jfl, any sub5 face can easily be incel

even if you're tall, a 4/10 face could be enough to make you incel

a sub4 face is automatic death sentence
This is a really hard concept to grasp for some copers here
 
jfl, any sub5 face can easily be incel

even if you're tall, a 4/10 face could be enough to make you incel

a sub4 face is automatic death sentence

Fine. But at least you can have friends when you are 4/10. Most of you guys don't even know how it is to be ugly it seems.
 
Fine. But at least you can have friends when you are 4/10. Most of you guys don't even know how it is to be ugly it seems.
i was ugly as fuck in middle school and high school with acne, no social life until late senior year

i cleared up my acne but had some scarring so i was low normie tier in college
 
volcels.co at it again.
My looskmatch is 2/10 and she won't fuck anything that is below 5/10 so by that logic i should just go find some down synromed foid and fuck her?
 
Im ugly, why would i be here if i wasn't ?

Because foids have too high expectations these days. You say you are a 4/10. That means you are an average looking guy.
 
im a 4 because im i looksmaxxed everything that i could that doesn't require surgery because i can't afford it, and when i say im a 4 im not talking about western standards.

Still not too bad bro. I don't know how you look like but at least 4/10 sounds good to me for an incel.
 
Fucking giels below your looksmatch is not ascension its descension and not worth it. Better fuck an escort.
I've heard stories of cels doing this and it just made them feel worse after, and it can never be undone
 
why do you guys always deny the fact that ugly tall virgin men exists?????
Because they can't admit that they themselves are so comedically off the mark that it's planets away. It's their cope for a strawman. That's all it is, cope.
 
Because they can't admit that they themselves are so comedically off the mark that it's planets away. It's their cope for a strawman. That's all it is, cope.

I am sure tall virgins exist. If your face looks like horseshit there's no chance to make it up.
 
3-4 right now. If I get a really great upper eyelids surgery and a nose job, would be 6 at very best.
 
I've heard stories of cels doing this and it just made them feel worse after, and it can never be undone
i'd say if the foid is at least a 4 and not fat you gotta go for it
 
Who do you think those dudes are talking about
well i assumed the dudes who went below their looksmatch fucked 2/10 landwhales, which is disgusting as fuck
 
I don't mind fat women if alot of it goes to their tits and ass
a little fat is okay

but this is not:
1597023974044
 
3-4 right now. If I get a really great upper eyelids surgery and a nose job, would be 6 at very best.
is you height decent say 5'11 and up? if so do it quick aging is hell
 
5'6 riceman with 20% bf out of 10
 
Anyway I have been rated 1-3/10 so I'd say 2. But I do want to say that I would have a GF by now if I was white and tall, being short and ethnic destroyed me completely.
if you were rated a 4 or max 5 kike would you ascend bit above average height
 
I guess you're talking about me. I never even said race is cope once and certainly never said height is. Having a different view of the hierarchy of traits that make one attractive doesn't make one bluepilled. I guess you can say calling it a cope or saying it doesn't matter could be bluepilled.

Certainly race would be a huge factor maybe the biggest if you were trying to date white girls or even outside your race in general (they exclude like 90% of ethnics); however, most relationships, marriages, etc in the world are intraracial. When you see studies that say "being ethnic is as bad as being 5'4" you'll see that among their own ethnic group the disadvantage isn't anywhere near being 5'4. So the advantage of race is pretty varied and inconsistent.

I see people interact within their own races far more than outside in my own university. The topic of self-segregation is well-covered I'm not just appealing to anecdotes.

This study could be outdated as it was before the age of Tinder, but at least when you look at the numbers the advantage white men have racially they have small advantage with Asian women over their own race. It's nothing ground-breaking though.

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Furthermore, quite honestly heightism + lookism for men is NEVER discussed while racism is highly discussed in society. So maybe I'm a little bit jaded regarding that. If race worked like any other trait you wouldn't have any racial homophility whatsoever. No women prefers a manlet or an ugly guy for instance. But there is evidence that women display far more racial homophility than men (not just white women). I think my life would be completely different if there was a large swath of women who had preferences for manlets or ugly guys.

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Plus whenever you see truly incel-tier white guys ascend it's usually with someone who is white. Look at Eggy or the NeverGiveUp guy. So I don't understand how it's "JBW" in action there. Meanwhile in this community we have white chadlites and normies that ascend to going to SEA. itsOVER was the best example I suppose he had chadlite facial structure but when he was not lean he was a normie (albeit potentially on the lower side). Maybe no truecel has tried it. I can't say, but Weed, Orb, itsOVER, etc never really were that incel-looking to begin with.
What would need to be done to have @Weed freed?
 
1/10

No one wants a deaf guy with huge forehead. Fuck 'em!
 
10/10 what can I say women can't fathom the magnificence of a curry hence they avoid me
 
I guess you're talking about me. I never even said race is cope once and certainly never said height is. Having a different view of the hierarchy of traits that make one attractive doesn't make one bluepilled. I guess you can say calling it a cope or saying it doesn't matter could be bluepilled.

Certainly race would be a huge factor maybe the biggest if you were trying to date white girls or even outside your race in general (they exclude like 90% of ethnics); however, most relationships, marriages, etc in the world are intraracial. When you see studies that say "being ethnic is as bad as being 5'4" you'll see that among their own ethnic group the disadvantage isn't anywhere near being 5'4. So the advantage of race is pretty varied and inconsistent.

I see people interact within their own races far more than outside in my own university. The topic of self-segregation is well-covered I'm not just appealing to anecdotes.

This study could be outdated as it was before the age of Tinder, but at least when you look at the numbers the advantage white men have racially they have small advantage with Asian women over their own race. It's nothing ground-breaking though.

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Furthermore, quite honestly heightism + lookism for men is NEVER discussed while racism is highly discussed in society. So maybe I'm a little bit jaded regarding that. If race worked like any other trait you wouldn't have any racial homophility whatsoever. No women prefers a manlet or an ugly guy for instance. But there is evidence that women display far more racial homophility than men (not just white women). I think my life would be completely different if there was a large swath of women who had preferences for manlets or ugly guys.

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Plus whenever you see truly incel-tier white guys ascend it's usually with someone who is white. Look at Eggy or the NeverGiveUp guy. So I don't understand how it's "JBW" in action there. Meanwhile in this community we have white chadlites and normies that ascend to going to SEA. itsOVER was the best example I suppose he had chadlite facial structure but when he was not lean he was a normie (albeit potentially on the lower side). Maybe no truecel has tried it. I can't say, but Weed, Orb, itsOVER, etc never really were that incel-looking to begin with.
@BlkPillPres rates @itsOVER a normie 5/10 when lean hes rlly underrating I wonder what he looks like. Is he. a tyrone? i dont think its over was chadlite but he was 6-6.5/10 blkpillpres rlly underrates him and many whites are uglier
 
They literally do this though. I have been using a dating app for the last few months and have seen plenty of foids write "I love hot guys" in their bio. Today I saw a foid that said in her bio: "Message me if you look like Brad Pitt".
tbh
 
@BlkPillPres rates @itsOVER a normie 5/10 when lean hes rlly underrating I wonder what he looks like. Is he. a tyrone? i dont think its over was chadlite but he was 6-6.5/10 blkpillpres rlly underrates him and many whites are uglier

Dude @itsOVER is a plain faced white guy who is even shorter than me (just by an inch though, but still), he's nowhere near 6 JUST BECAUSE HE BECAME LEAN, because guess what, THE AVERAGE WHITE GUY IS LEAN SO ITS NOT LIKE IT MAKES HIM STAND OUT IN ANY WAY

Not only that but he's targeting asian women, and asians are on average the leanest race since they have better diets and way lower rates of obesity because of this

Its not his leanness that made a difference ITS HIS WHITENESS

Maybe its you guys rating him higher than he really his due to the looks halo of him being white

When you just look at his facial structure, height and build, he's really average (in fact he's slightly below average in height), he is also a framecel, his frame is very small, heck it even says so on the incel wiki lol

He is nowhere near a 6, you guys are subconsciously upping his looks due to whiteness or its like you have to rationalize his performance in getting sex and women pregnant as him being above average, because you just can't admit that JBW is law

You don't need to be above average if you are white, you just need to go to SEA, and if you are a 4.5 minimum you can get laid
 
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Dude @itsOVER is a plain faced white guy who is even short that me (just by an inch though, but still), he's nowhere near 6 JUST BECAUSE HE BECAME LEAN, because guess what, THE AVERAGE WHITE GUY IS LEAN SO ITS NOT LIKE IT MAKES HIM STAND OUT IN ANY WAY

Not only that but he's targeting asian women, and asians are on average the leanest race since they have better diets and way lower rates of obesity because of this

Its not his leanness that made a difference ITS HIS WHITENESS

Maybe its you guys rating him higher than he really his due to the looks halo of him being white

When you just look at his facial structure, height and build, he's really average (in fact he's slightly below average in height), he is also a framecel, his frame is very small, heck it even says so on the incel wiki lol

He is nowhere near a 6, you guys are subconsciously upping his looks due to whiteness or its like you have to rationalize his performance in getting sex and women pregnant as him being above average, because you just can't admit that JBW is law

You don't need to be above average if you are white, you just need to go to SEA, and if you are a 4.5 minimum you can get laid
i guess he is a manlet and his bone strucutre isnt anything amazing but he has a white pheno that makes him better looking the better looking white pheno that makes whites the most attractive is labeled as JBW but it doesnt apply to objectively subpar whites like me
 
2/10 realistically tbh
maybe 3 or 4 if i lost weight
but to women i am an invisible negative 1/10
 
2/10 or 3,5/10 in a good day.
But honestly I think I'm below 0 JFL.

I'm an absolute abomination. The only thing I've got going is my height (1.93) and that's not fucking good enough.

Such is life for a subhumancel
 
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I'm a 0.
Not below 0 because that makes me a freak and then people will look at you.
My problem is I don't exist.
I can die in some corner on the street and nobody will even care.
They would only pick me up because of the stench of my cadaver, and probably not even the undertaker but the garbage truck.
 
is you height decent say 5'11 and up? if so do it quick aging is hell
6’2 I don’t have a large frame though, my wrist is about 7,3 inches. Also I’m already 28, so yes, I don’t have much time.
 
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