@BlkPillPres any ideas? Seems like most guys on this site are defeatist cucks.
1. They are defeatist, that's why I don't bother asking for advice on this site because you'll just get some BS - "Just LDAR its over". They don't see the irony of someone who wants to kill themselves being defeatist, its like whats the point, just do whatever the fuck you want and then kill yourself, you'll have no consequences to face anyways (well from humans, if God exists you're fucked).
2. I would say being a "drugcel" in this case gives you the optimum strategy, girls in that age group are always trying to fit in and be popular: You have to be that "secret older guy" teen girls are always looking for, this guy isn't always attractive, but he's more of a "sugar daddy", a lot of females I've spoken to had one during their teen years at school (not fucking joking), some were even bald, they had those guys on the side basically as "betabux", but its a decent tradeoff to get some prime jail bait pussy.
MY STRATEGY (I am just now thinking this up, so expect flaws):
1. Dress professionally, don't try to wear jeans and shit to "seem younger", girls actually want older men, even though they want to fuck chad they also want to feel like they are "better than him" so dating older men is a wet dream for teen girls, because it means getting shit that they shouldn't be getting yet and that the girls around them will feel jealous of (jewelry, dinner dates, etc).
Try to come off "like an adult". Wear a dress shirt and pants, a tie if you have one, make it look like you just came off from work at some office, wear a flashy watch, it doesn't have to be expensive, just has to look "sleak" and clean. You need a fresh haircut too, nothing fancy, just plain and neet. If you usually wear glasses don't, wear contacts for this shit, you automatically look more "creepy" with glasses on because women find intelligence a trait of being creepy and glasses are considered a "social artifact" representing intelligence.
I recommend the contacts regardless if you wear glasses, having a "different" eye colour always makes you look better.
If you are a white guy opt for blue or green contacts, if you are a black guy (or any other dark skinned ethnic) opt for hazel, its the only "natural looking" fake eye colour we can use to our benefit, everything else just looks ridiculous and not attractive.
2. Target the girls alone or in a group with
ONLY FEMALES, if a male is present avoid because he will attempt to display his dominance. Preferred target is a female alone, but she'd have to be a "loner" type girl and that's rare.
3. I don't drink or smoke but to pull this off I would have to, drugs are something "cool" to young teens, especially weed, you can't bait them using your good looks here so you'll have to do so using drugs. Walk past the group (or girl alone, preferred target actually) with your phone out talking about a party you were at and how wild it was.
4. Try and strike up a conversation, look at what she's wearing and make it based on what her clothing alludes to (her interests), girls that age are always trying to convey to everyone that they are special, so even her clothing will be blatant about it in most cases. A goth teen would be a Godsend in this case because it doesn't get more obvious than that.
Make sure at some point early in the conversation to ask if she's waiting on someone, if she is and she mentions a parent then make up an excuse, make your phone ring or something and walk off quickly, you'll be doing this shit multiple times and you don't want to get busted by a parent seeing you trying to fuck their child JFL.
5. If she is actually talking to you mention the party, while talking to her be as condescending as possible but not aggressive, make little pokes at her, call her a "little girl", say that she won't be able to "handle" the party, make her feel like a child and she'll likely be motivated to prove to you how adult like she is, as long as you don't come off as desperate/aggressive if you invite her somewhere she'll likely go. Don't push her to where you want to go, lead her, let her lead herself there, let her want to prove you wrong.
When talking to her keep doing shit like looking at other women passing by or looking around, maintain eye contact minimally, alternate between looking at your phone and smiling (well more of a laughing/chuckle, or a neutral face sometimes, if you only smile it'll look weird) and looking at hot women passing by. You need to make her feel like she is the last thing you'd be interested in and you are just some guy "talking down to her"
6. Preferably you are at a mall or something, offer to buy her something to drink, this is a perfect chance to poke some more fun at her and say it can't be alcohol. Buy her something tasty and embarrassing, something that looks like a childs drink, or maybe some milk coffee shit at starbucks IDK lol. The point here is to both treat her while at the same time making her feel like she has to prove something to you. Also most importantly to show her that you are "free with money" and won't hesitate to spend a little on her, a complete stranger. Girls really just want a "sugar daddy", you need her to establish that connection in her mind that she can depend on you for free shit and "a good time" (that's especially where the drugs come in)
If you have any cans of beer on you, its the perfect time to take it out and start drinking, you need to make her see (more like percieve) the difference between her (a child limited by rules) and you (an adult with freedom), she'll seek you out to "make that change in her life". To help her get "a taste of freedom"
7. You must have some drugs on you, you must be an experienced user, a guy like me would have to spend two weeks or so getting used to smoking weed, show her that you have some on you at the end of the conversation before you leave, if she already smokes give her the blunt, then ask for her number. When you ask don't look directly at her, you have to make it seem like something you're doing on a whim, look at some woman passing by or at your phone. Oh make sure you have some fake pics of you at a party laughing with some guys or something, shit like that can be easily staged, just get some typical red plastic cups and a pic with you and two other guys laughing all with drinks in your hand (hope you have a few friends JFL). You'll need shit like that so you can show her it while saying shit like - "can you believe this guy", you'll need some fake "wild party" stories too (be dressed casually in those images).
If she gives you her number, you're in, now its just for you to keep talking to her in secret, making her "feel special" while at the same time "like she's a child to you". Don't say anything sexual or explicit in texts, only in person when you invite her out. Oh if you don't have a car give up on this shit, you won't seem very "adult like" if you can't drive her around, even chad has a car.
8. If you're lucky at some point you can take her back to "your place" after "going out", if she accepts the gesture you are likely going to get laid, don't get your hopes up though, more than likely she just wants to "see your place", women do stupid shit a lot like that based on what I've heard from normies I know and if you are too forward and aggressive at that point she'll get "spooked". She is conscious of the taboo of her being young and you being an old man, it will "feel weird" to her at first so don't "push her".
You need at least two "dates" before even making that gesture, you'll have to put thought into your dates too and basically plan them, you'll need things to talk about and in detail, things that would interest her and/or make her laugh. You'll have to lead in the whole thing because you aren't chad, she isn't going to pick up the slack because you aren't attractive enough for her to bother to hold up her end.
When you get to your place say some normie shit when you arrive like - "Here's my place, make yourself comfortable" (obviously your place has to be clean), have a bong on the counter on full display lol. At some point you guys will be sitting alone. Offer to do some weed or something, when she's good and drugged up (not stoned, she has to be conscious and lucid else she'll consider it rape) go in
SLOWLY for a kiss (messed up but hey that would be my plan), if you're lucky things will progress from there and she'll kiss back, once she kisses back you are in.
So if you don't have your own place, a job with decent income, a car, and access to drugs, I would recommend not even trying to get a young teen to fuck you because those things are necessary tools to getting them to fuck you if you aren't chad. Well this is just my opinion.