How Nazi Germany Could have Won the War Against the Soviet Union in 4 days.

[Knajjd]

During 23-24 June 2023 Wagner mercenaries advanced on Moscow. The closest they got to Moscow was 59 miles. They were able to make a rapid advance due to well constructed roads. Given another day or two they would have reached Moscow.

Prior to the German invasion of the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941 the German planners thought a road network existed in Russia. It did not. Roads marked on maps were in a very poor state and often just dirt tracks. This held up the German advance.

Now consider that Germany had an autobahn system and that they had good trade relations with the USSR. Germany imported raw materials and exported machine tools right up the invasion.

So, what if Germany had offered to build autobahns for the Soviets as part of a trade agreement and then invaded using these same road networks? A sort of Trojan horse.

The war could have been over in 4 days.

Had the German War Planners tried to drive to Moscow in a car they would have quickly seen the state of the roads and maybe the idea of building an autobahn straight from Berlin to Moscow would have occurred to them.

1939 German Autobahn:

Adolf Hitler working on an autobahn:

Wagner Group rebellion - Wikipedia

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Reichsautobahn - Wikipedia

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Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia

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[4sez]

You know, I'm pissed that those faggot commies won, had Japan never bombed Pearl Harbor, America would have sided with Germany (in a more realistic manner, they would had never been in the war at all)

 

[Charlie Kirk Koala]

faggot commies won

Stormfront.is just fucking lol.

 

[Charlie Kirk Koala]

America would have sided with Germany

Liberalism doesn't share any value with fascism.

 

[4sez]

Liberalism doesn't share any value with fascism.

fair

 

[Knajjd]

Liberalism doesn't share any value with fascism.

They both believe in God whereas Communists do not. This was one reason the Nazi Party was at odds with the Soviets.

 

[starcrapoo]

The Soviets dug in and defended hard and also did massive counter attacks throughout the whole war.

When Zhukov arrived from Siberia with his divisions it was over for Nazi germany. He had a lot of experience fighting the Japanese in the battle of Khalkin Gol.

 

[Knajjd]

The Soviets dug in and defended hard and also did massive counter attacks throughout the whole war.

When Zhukov arrived from Siberia with his divisions it was over for Nazi germany. He had a lot of experience fighting the Japanese in the battle of Khalkin Gol.

If the Germans had access to the same quality roads as the Wagner Group they would have reached Moscow in 4 days.

The German War Planners should have offered to build a road network for the Soviets in a spirit of friendship then invaded over the same roads.

 

[Excalibur]

The capture of Moscow would not have caused the USSR to surrender. Barbarossa should have aimed its spearhead at the Caucasus instead of launching a general offensive and trying to conquer the whole of European Russia at once. Had the Caucasus been conquered in 1941, the oil shortage that was crippling the Wehrmacht would have been remedied and the Werhmacht could have waged war against the Soviets in full force with its motorized, mechanized, armoured and air forces. The lack of fuel limited Germany's use of these technologies throughout the war, forcing it to rely on horses for logistics and traditional infantry, whose only means of transportation was on foot.

 

[Emba]

Muh roads

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

because we had a churka leader, that is why

 

[thespanishcel]

Hitler could have won if he wasn't Hitler!!!

 

[Uninvited]

You know, I'm pissed that those faggot commies won, had Japan never bombed Pearl Harbor, America would have sided with Germany (in a more realistic manner, they would had never been in the war at all)

Nah US was under control of kikes even at that time.
Since before WW1 even.
UK might have signed a peace if kike slave Churchill had not been installed

 

[Uninvited]

Hitler could have won if he wasn't Hitler!!!

Germany could have won if they weren't Nazi in my opinion.
The average Soviet citizen didn't have that much love for Communism, especially Ukrainians/most non-Russians

 

[gluttony]

Germany could have won if they weren't Nazi in my opinion.
The average Soviet citizen didn't have that much love for Communism, especially Ukrainians/most non-Russians

If they weren't nazi they wouldn't want to go to war with the soviet union in the first place, mainly because they needed lebensraum and that they are ideaologically opposed, without nazism there wouldn't be any justification for hitler to invade in the first place. It would be interesting if germany wasn't nazi but if they weren't nothing would've happened in the first place and some different ideaology that wasn't hitler's would have taken hold under the Weimar Republic.

 

[thespanishcel]

Germany could have won if they weren't Nazi in my opinion.
The average Soviet citizen didn't have that much love for Communism, especially Ukrainians/most non-Russians

I was just parodying the alternate history trope of Hitler/Germany could have won if *impossible scenario*

 

[Maikowski]

Nazi's would've won by not fighting a war. Just sit back and watch the liberal crapholes destroy themselves

 

[Uninvited]

If they weren't nazi they wouldn't want to go to war with the soviet union in the first place, mainly because they needed lebensraum and that they are ideaologically opposed, without nazism there wouldn't be any justification for hitler to invade in the first place. It would be interesting if germany wasn't nazi but if they weren't nothing would've happened in the first place and some different ideaology that wasn't hitler's would have taken hold under the Weimar Republic.

Many countries were anti-communist and believed the Soviets would attack at some point.
An anti-boshevik war isn't irrational. Even if they were still anti-semetic as long as they weren't so openly genocidal against slavs it is possible the USSR would have collapsed.

 

[gluttony]

Many countries were anti-communist and believed the Soviets would attack at some point.
An anti-boshevik war isn't irrational. Even if they were still anti-semetic as long as they weren't so openly genocidal against slavs it is possible the USSR would have collapsed.

Maybe it would have probably ended up in like a cold war timeline.

 

[Knajjd]

could have won if *impossible scenario*

Wagner Group's rapid advance on Moscow is a fact not an impossible scenario.

Trade agreements between USSR and Germany were in place right up to the invasion which indicates that a project initiated by Germany to build an autobahn between Berlin and Moscow would have been approved by the Soviets.

The number one priority of the Ancient Romans was to build roads in a straight line between key hubs to expedite movement of military assets.

The German War Planners had the solution right in front of them. Even a partial autobahn would have been sufficent.