I didn't say they are, just pointed out that, compared to a lot of modern countries which have access to modern tech and still stagnate, Japan quickly advancing the moment they stopped their isolationism is objectively impressive.
I agree, this is a good argument to use against the "muh colonialism n' imperialism ruined our countires"
That also is why i have admired Japan to a degree, since they rapidly caught up
Same goes for the Chinese to a degree
By that same logic you could dismiss Continental Europe's success as just them copying British technology
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If we're discussing on the principle of race realism here, then that isn't a very solid argument as they are the same race more or less
It's really more or less irrelevant who came up with some technology first, the important thing is using it, improving it, and so on.
Sorry, but I find this take very disingenuous & honestly, i'm not happy you said this since i thought you'd know better
The point i'm making is that the reason why they're making all of these -which many people seem to say they should have "pride" in-
Especially so since before the Industrial Revolution started in Britain, technology levels and per capita economic output were roughly similar across Eurasia. Incomes in the Ottoman Empire, for example, were similar to those in Western Europe up to the 18th century when they started to noticeably decline.
This is somewhat fair enough, but Europe was already beginning to climb & develop for awhile:
Important technologies used during the Middle Ages include windmills, tidal power and watermills, clockwork, and ultimately the printing press. Improvements in ship technology and ship building, navigation tools, and cartography also aided exploration in the Age of Discovery.
Another domain of technological advancement was that of seafaring, ultimately culminating in the Age of Discovery. The chart below illustrates how innovations made it possible for medieval ships to carry much more cargo. Navigation ability was also improved through various innovations.
The two most important and complex technologies of the late medieval period are arguably Gutenberg’s
moveable-type printing press and the public
mechanical clock.
Boerner et al. (2021) document the diffusion of these technologies throughout Europe, as can be seen below. Early adoption was most widespread in wealthier areas, such as the Low Countries, northern Italy and Germany. While Europe put these technologies to use,
Gutenberg’s movable-type printing press was famously blocked by religious authorities in the Islamic world, arguably of great importance to the divergence between West Europe and the Islamic world.
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Europe also has always had some degree of prominence, i'm sure you know this but:
(Africa would be North Africa)
Grinin & Korotayev (2015) display the differing trends in scientific innovation between Europe and China (see below). A few interesting observations are worth noting. First, from 1000 onward, the number of innovations in Europe is increasing. The number of innovations in China stays relatively stable, there is no growth in innovation.
So, while more innovations happen in China initially, this gap is shrinking in the centuries past 1000 AD. Second, a massive rise in innovation in Europe starts from around 1400 and beyond. This is not far after the inflection point I observe, where from around 1300, the rate of births of those who would become notable people of science starts increasing rapidly.
Goldewijk et al. (2010) estimate population densities and urbanization rates throughout history. In 1000, the estimated urbanization rate was highest in China and comparable between West Europe and India. But by 1500, the urbanization rate was highest in West Europe by a wide margin, with China and India having the second and third highest, respectively. Thus we see that
West Europe developed ahead of China and India (and further ahead the rest of the world) somewhere between 1000 A.D. and 1500 A.D. in terms of urbanization rate.
I track the historical rise of West Europe by quantitatively analyzing the birth of notable people of science, and then I put it in context with other indicators of historical development.
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Not really, obviously who came up with something first is more intelligent and capable than someone who merely adopted that technology.
I agree in the case of modern technology & the industrial evolution, since in my opinion it wouldn't have happened had it not been for Whites/Europeans
Agriculture is something which would have developed, but the industrial revolution according to many was somewhat of a "fluke" though based on what i shared above, i disagree and think it occurred due to the innovation we saw in Europe when China was declining
West Europe experienced a major transformation between 1000 and 1500. Their incomes increased, they established institutions of higher learning across the continent, they became more urbanized, more technologically developed, produced vastly more books, literacy and numeracy increased, violence greatly decreased, and they produced many more notable scientists, mathematicians, philosophers, inventors, and engineers. In terms of overall development, West Europe had surpassed that of other big civilizations (China, India, and the Middle East) by 1500. Not only that, the rate of advancement was accelerating. The other major civilizations instead went into cultural stagnation.
I track the historical rise of West Europe by quantitatively analyzing the birth of notable people of science, and then I put it in context with other indicators of historical development.
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Eh, depends on the degree I'd say. If you make a musket, somebody else sees it, then uses the same principle to create a recoilless minigun, then I'd say it's pretty questionable who's really the smarter one (and also, the latter will win 99.99% of the time.) Though, at that point it's not really "adopting" a technology, but creating a new one, even if it wouldn't exist unless the first guy created the musket first.
The point here, is that due to the industrial revolution, China & all these places have this tech which if you read above, likely would have never been invented by them or would have been stagnant
I know you believe in racial realism/IQs to a degree, so it would make sense to support the view that while Europeans may be smart, they also are more creative
Check this out also please:
The point i'm making, is that the modern tech & innovations we have exist due to what happened in Europe.
