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Discussion How incels like me were "able to" cold approach hundreds of women. (and why I don't recommend it)

Respect to millenial incels from zoomer incels,. Dunno, maybe we really should try cold approaching more, but im so fucking scared of rejection. I already had so much rejection wia online approaches, i think it would be over via irl with my autistic weird ahh
 
And how do you explain extroverted incels like me who did lots of cold approaches (and did social circle game as well) only to always get rejected, and by sub5 women at that?

Seems you've created a worldview that a priori rules out the possibility a truecel like me could even exist.
 
I don’t like the idea that “gen z doesn’t know how to socialise because they spent all their time on their phones while growing up”. Maybe it’s because i live in a different country and the culture is different here but 90% of gen z i see here have fine social skills. And the other 10% are literal autists who won’t be able to improve their social skills no matter what. Imo It’s more of an american thing than a gen z thing.

Also due to me being bullied and isolated by the other kids, i was barely able to socialise with anyone. I basically spent the majority of my time playing videogames and watching youtube videos. And despite that my social skills are still somewhat decent. But tbf i did work customer service and also paid attention to the way others interact with each other so that helped. And i have no problem approaching women either despite growing up sheltered. Imo genetics play a bigger role than environment, either you have it or you don’t. If someone is born with 160 iq, even if he gets raised by retards he will still be a genius. If someone is born with a 100 iq, if he’s raised by retards then he will lean into the side of the retards. Environment only affects the people who are completely average to below average.
to be fair a lot of people are close to the average so environment is more likely to affect them in a noticeable way. But I get your point, as we are talking about incels/the bottom 20% or so.
 
I don’t like the idea that “gen z doesn’t know how to socialise because they spent all their time on their phones while growing up”. Maybe it’s because i live in a different country and the culture is different here but 90% of gen z i see here have fine social skills. And the other 10% are literal autists who won’t be able to improve their social skills no matter what. Imo It’s more of an american thing than a gen z thing.
Agree 100%, my peers seem fine

They sound and act like real people, it’s just the autists like me as in any other generation
 
Me cold approaching foids is stupid.
 
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I have the opposite problem, I think my face, is fine, but I’m so high inhib that the second any foid hears me speak or do something they basically want nothing to do with me ever again. Plus just the way I carry myself, it’s like they can see my high inhibition. I can’t make eye contact, if I accidentally do I always (involuntarily at this point) quickly shift my eyes away, which makes it look like I was staring. I slouch, can’t stand straight, have a weird gait cause I think I have a weird gait so try not to but that’s makes me have a wider gait.

It’s cause I was bullied in middle school, my personality is just quiet with new people by default, like I wasn’t bullied until i started school but even before then I was a quiet kid with new people. Of course after all the bullying in school it fucked me up so bad that isn’t can’t interact with people now.

I am going bald though so my face will soon match my inhibition level.
 
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There are some people here like @autistandugly who don't seem to understand how some of us incels were able to cold approach hundreds of women, so I figured I would give some insight.

To get the obvious out of the way, there is SOME genetic component to this. I'm naturally high T, extroverted, and low inhib. But I think in this case the environment I grew up in played as big of a role, possibly even a bigger one. As many of you know, I was born in the 80s, and grew up in the 90s and early 2000s. Times were very different. During my formative years, most people weren't hyper-introverted and terminally online. The internet existed, but there wasn't nearly as much to do on it. There were videos online but they were few and far between. Youtube didn't exist. There wasn't this non-stop flow of video content to spend hours doomscrolling through. There weren't "streamers" for us to form parasocial relationships with. Etc.

So we made friends with other kids our age in our neighborhood. Back in my day if there was a kid within a couple years of your age within a ~5 block radius, you knew them on some personal level (even if they went to a different school), either as a friend, acquaintance, or possibly an enemy. We hung out, played basketball, football or baseball, and generally developed social skills. But zoomers today grew up terminally online. They spent their formative years getting instant gratification on the internet. There were also "third places" like malls and arcades, which are pretty much dead at this point. Not only were they good places to go just to hang out, but they were also places where people would make new friends. Many of the friends I made in the 2000s I made at the arcade playing fighting games.

Everyone didn't have their faces stuffed in their phones the entire time and talking to strangers and getting to know them (and possibly becoming friends with them) was contextually normal. All of these things led to us properly developing social skills that most of gen z never properly developed. You guys might not realize it, but the average zoomer is much closer to guys like @autistandugly than to me.

Also worth noting that most of my cold approaches were done in the mid to late 2000s. The culture was very different. The genders weren't as divided, radical feminism wasn't the default for every woman, and women weren't hysterically paranoid about men. So the cultural attitude about cold approaching was very different. Basically as long as you followed a few unspoken but well understood rules like:

1) Don't touch her
2) Don't insult her or say anything offensive
3) Don't say or allude to anything sexual
4) Know when to walk away

you weren't doing anything gravely wrong. Cold approaching as an ugly guy was still seen as somewhat bad in the sense that you were seen as "creepy", but as long as you followed those common sense rules (which I always did) you wouldn't get in trouble for the most part. The main thing you had to worry about was it turning out that woman you cold approached had a boyfriend and he was somewhere at that venue and he saw you trying to talk to her. Some jealous boyfriends would get violent, I have first-hand experience with that. But other than that, you wouldn't get "cancelled" and it wasn't considered "harassment" like it is today.

People like @autistandugly wonder how I "was able to" do it, how I "had the balls" to do it...but it's not something I ever really had to "work up the courage" to do. The only time I ever had to muster the courage to approach was my first ever approach when I was in 7th grade. But after that cold approaching and getting rejected was just normal for me. I didn't overthink it, I just did it. In fact, ultimately I had the opposite problem, I found it difficult to quit cold approaching, as strange as that may sound.

I remember when I was in high school, I had a friend who had an older brother who was clearly addicted to buying lottery tickets. He'd buy a bunch of them every paycheck. I remember asking him why he kept throwing his hard-earned money on lottery tickets when he was losing every single time. He simply said "I only need to win once". I mean, technically that's true, but he clearly wasn't going to win, and I remember just thinking he was retarded. But now I get it (I don't think I need to spell out the parallels here).

I had already tried social circle game but all of the single women in my social circles had rejected me. Online dating existed back in the mid 2000s, but it wasn't nearly as big as it is today. I probably messaged literally EVERY sub5 woman within a 10 mile radius on both okcupid and plentyoffish (on those sites you could just message women, you didn't need to match with them first). Many of my messages were custom tailored to what was in their profile, it wasn't just copy and paste. But bottom line is, at a point it felt like cold approaching was the only thing left to do. Without cold approaching, it felt like time was just passing me by.

Also just for the record, in today's hyper-introverted, unsocial, terminally online, radical feminist, low trust, paranoid world, I strongly advise against cold approaching.

I know this post will come off as boomer tier "WE WERE THE LAST GENERATION OF REAL MEN!" (or alternatively "WE WUZ EXTROVERTS N SHEET") but hopefully it gives some interesting insight for some zoomers who might not understand.
@autistandugly is around your same age so maybe he wasn't the best example
 
.. I'm naturally high T, extroverted, and low inhib...
What in the holy fucking fakecel. Plus haven't even been punched, stabbed or called the police upon cold approaching is what i gather from your text.... .
 
What in the holy fucking fakecel. Plus haven't even been punched, stabbed or called the police upon cold approaching is what i gather from your text.... .
Here we go with this shit again. A user who's been here for...12 days is calling a 40 year old KHV a "fAkEcEL".

And you're not even correct. I was knocked out for cold approaching back in the 2000s. I made a thread about it over a year ago.

 
Here we go with this shit again. A user who's been here for...12 days is calling a 40 year old KHV a "fAkEcEL".

And you're not even correct. I was knocked out for cold approaching back in the 2000s. I made a thread about it over a year ago.

brutal. im almost 40 khv too. minus a couple years... . so all these approaches were just.... a humiliation ritual..?
 
Woman should approach Men:
Higher success rates
Less immediate danger
Looks less dodgy (3rd person)
 

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