“Hitler put an end to unemployment”

[valentineEs]

This was originally a response, but it serves as discussion material.

No, Hitler did not eliminate unemployment. The National Socialist state merely absorbed unemployment artificially through a rearmament program. Why artificially? The state would have to sustain a high level of military production indefinitely because the unemployment plan was based on rearmament for a future war; if this high level of military production were to stop, unemployment would return to its initial state. Added to this were many other factors, such as mounting debt and rising public spending because this just kept increasing and increasing. Military spending is government spending; heavy industry was directing all its resources toward rearmament. Who were they selling their production to? The state…

What I mentioned about artificially absorbing unemployment also applies to any other situation, regardless of the country, where the state attempts to create jobs; it doesn’t work because these are artificial structures that depend on things like public spending—without it, they collapse and unemployment returns

 

[tired as fuck]

So we're all unemployed because potentially the state stops existing?

 

[valentineEs]

So we're all unemployed because potentially the state stops existing?

"What I mentioned about artificially absorbing unemployment also applies to any other situation, regardless of the country, where the state attempts to create jobs; it doesn’t work because these are artificial structures that depend on things like public spending—without it, they collapse and unemployment returns"

 

[tired as fuck]

"What I mentioned about artificially absorbing unemployment also applies to any other situation, regardless of the country, where the state attempts to create jobs; it doesn’t work because these are artificial structures that depend on things like public spending—without it, they collapse and unemployment returns"

I guess I'm right

 

[valentineEs]

I guess I'm right

A government job is not the same as a private sector job
That's my point
Jobs created by the government are not economically viable

 

[tired as fuck]

A government job is not the same as a private sector job
That's my point

Assuming you don't live in a state where the two coincide, then yes, but private sector jobs rely on the state to exist. No state = no jobs

 

[valentineEs]

Assuming you don't live in a state where the two coincide, then yes, but private sector jobs rely on the state to exist. No state = no jobs

What are you talking about? Private sector jobs are created by the private sector.

 

[Aventador]

I think both of you are correct.

Nazi germany economy was based on rearmament in the hopes they can conquer and loot other countries.

However it can work and provide jobs to people, as long as conquest goes well and doesn't stall, or worse - a counter invasion.

 

[tired as fuck]

What are you talking about? Private sector jobs are created by the private sector.

1) for private sector to exist there needs to be a public sector
2) jobs created by private companies are subordinated to the state allowing said companies to exist. No state = no public sector = no private sector = no private companies

 

[valentineEs]

1) for private sector to exist there needs to be a public sector
2) jobs created by private companies are subordinated to the state allowing said companies to exist. No state = no public sector = no private sector = no private companies

If the private sector is subordinate to the state, it is because the state forces it to be

The private sector operates independently of the state, while the public sector depends on things like public spending which is funded primarily by your taxes, the state itself produces nothing

You are applying the logic of centralized planning

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

 

[Pikacel]

If the private sector is subordinate to the state, it is because the state forces it to be

The private sector operates independently of the state, while the public sector depends on things like public spending which is funded primarily by your taxes, the state itself produces nothing

You are applying the logic of centralized planning

State is needed to enable monetisation (AFAIK, but I guess crypto can override that), enforce private property to begin with (so random niggers don’t squat on your shit), IP/patent laws, rule of law in general, centralisation of power so local mafia or warlords don’t run ur business down etc.

 

[ANTAGONIST]

Are you an ancap?

 

[IWWorkER]

If the private sector is subordinate to the state, it is because the state forces it to be

The private sector cannot exist without the government, which enforces its private property rights, among other things.

 

[nihilum]

I hate german nationalists anyway.