It's Over Having a GF isn't even worth it

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I think we overvalue the whole relationship narrative, and it's certainly a scam sold to men since the dawn of time in order for foids to be protected and loved by a man in her old age, which would otherwise not happen.

But for a man, this whole deal isn't worth it. If you're just looking for the bedroom fun, then you will have to go through all the drama, "headaches", deal with her periods and bad mood, all kind of psychological abuses, feminist shit, usual couple bs, daily shit tests, expenses for the sake of chivalry ... All that just for a bit of fun once a month, and that's being optimistic.

As I said, not worth it, at all.

Hooker maXxing is certainly the best way to go, to minimize bullshit and maximize you personnal benefits tbh. As the saying goes : we pay them to leave, not to fuck. Although I'm too introverted to even consider the process (and clients are criminalized in my cucked country anyway).

What's your opinon ?

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

If you have to write a paragraph to convince yourself that relationships aren't worth it, whilst not having the ability to get into relationships, what does that sound like to you?

I'm still somehow feeling the illusory need for female affection, you know ? I'm not writing that to "convince" myself, I'm just talking from the expérience of other men I know, who actually experienced all that shit. The couple meme merely benefits the foid, that's basically literally why marriage was invented : in order for her to keep her cuck forever by her side under the authority of God. Engagement is not worth it.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

You have a point. Since incels have difficulty in even getting sex, posts about relationships often underestimate the difficulties of keeping a foid in a stable relationship over time

That said, people want relationships because they want foid validation and affection, not just hooker sex

I'm not sure your post fully addresses that

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

This. If OP didn't care about relationships he wouldn't even be here. It's all just cope.

We have an idealized conception of relationship with a foid, and yet we know foids are despicable creatures who can't physiologically feel empathy for a man, and only see men as a mean towards other goals (get free money, have kids, etc ...).

I'm just stating blatant fact, that's not a far fetched cope thing here.

 

[TheGrayWolf]

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Women show it constantly that they don't have genuine love towards men. Their idea of love and romance is to just have a guy chase them forever. I don't see women appreciating their boyfriends or husbands, ever. Women even publicly shit on their men, talking about how their boyfriends/husbands have small penises and whatever. Could you imagine a guy telling others that his girlfriend has a smelly pussy or something akin to that? I honestly can't.

And I genuinely believe they don't even love Chad

 

[weaselbomber]

I'm not looking for bedroom fun, though. I'm lonely and I want companionship and affection

 

[RegularManlet]

I think we overvalue the whole relationship narrative, and it's certainly a scam sold to men since the dawn of time in order for foids to be protected and loved by a man in her old age, which would otherwise not happen.

But for a man, this whole deal isn't worth it. If you're just looking for the bedroom fun, then you will have to go through all the drama, "headaches", deal with her periods and bad mood, all kind of psychological abuses, feminist shit, usual couple bs, daily shit tests, expenses for the sake of chivalry ... All that just for a bit of fun once a month, and that's being optimistic.

As I said, not worth it, at all.

Hooker maXxing is certainly the best way to go, to minimize bullshit and maximize you personnal benefits tbh. As the saying goes : we pay them to leave, not to fuck. Although I'm too introverted to even consider the process (and clients are criminalized in my cucked country anyway).

What's your opinon ?

I mean I would like to try a relationship to form an opinion about that but i cant so I dont want to write off a relationship

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

That said, people want relationships because they want foid validation and affection, not just hooker sex

I know that. But I don't think you realize how rare actual foid affection actually is, even in so called "couple" relationship. They only keep a man as long as he's the best mean to her secret agenda. As soon as she has a better option, or she gets bored, validation ain't shit, and affection isn't displayed. They are just playing with men need for affection. We should stop craving for unconditionnal love, that is only something that is briefly given by a mother to a new born. Every other display of "love" from a foid is the result of her hidden second thoughts and calculus of her interests at a precise momentum of her life.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

This is where it gets funny. They can't feel empathy for an average or below average man, for Chads they certainly do and they would sacrifice their very lives for them.

And ? I'm talking about the 99% couple experience of normies, average fathers, normal people. The kind of experience a late bloomer previous incel would get anyaway, after ascension. This petty benefit isn't worth all the hassle we would have to go through.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

I know that. But I don't think you realize how rare actual foid affection actually is, even in so called "couple" relationship. They only keep a man as long as he's the best mean to her secret agenda. As soon as she has a better option, or she gets bored, validation ain't shit, and affection isn't displayed. They are just playing with men need for affection. We should stop craving for unconditionnal love, that is only something that is briefly given by a mother to a new born. Every other display of "love" from a foid is the result of her hidden second thoughts and calculus of her interests at a precise momentum of her life.

True, people assume that foids would give affection in the same way that they do, when IRL foids lack depth and the capacity for serious thoughts

Foids are often even two-faced and bitchy around Chads

Around sub-8s, they would probably mostly show affection to get something in return

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I mean I would like to try a relationship to form an opinion about that but i cant so I dont want to write off a relationship

Ask people who are in relationships ? Their life is kind of miserable, always fearing the foid will find a better option, always needing to prove they are still "manly" in bed, and in life in general, but also are castrated and feminist enough to please the sick foid mind. All those contradictory criterias you need to get along with to eventually earn the petty right of somehow be considered by a foid. This is grotesque and tiring.


Meanwhile, you can just fuck the foid of your dreams for a grand and not go through all the bullshit. Where is the cope here ?

 

[mrlunatic]

I think we overvalue the whole relationship narrative, and it's certainly a scam sold to men since the dawn of time in order for foids to be protected and loved by a man in her old age, which would otherwise not happen.

But for a man, this whole deal isn't worth it. If you're just looking for the bedroom fun, then you will have to go through all the drama, "headaches", deal with her periods and bad mood, all kind of psychological abuses, feminist shit, usual couple bs, daily shit tests, expenses for the sake of chivalry ... All that just for a bit of fun once a month, and that's being optimistic.

As I said, not worth it, at all.

Hooker maXxing is certainly the best way to go, to minimize bullshit and maximize you personnal benefits tbh. As the saying goes : we pay them to leave, not to fuck. Although I'm too introverted to even consider the process (and clients are criminalized in my cucked country anyway).

What's your opinon ?

High iq and based. Prostitutes are the only useful women out there

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Around sub-8s, they would probably mostly show affection to get something in return

That is black pill 101 here, and my post is just the logical conclusion. All the cucks pretending I'm coping don't know what a cope is and don't even know what the blackpill is. They are fucking bluepilled cucks who would have been banned on sight if moderation wasn't full of cocksuckers

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

High iq and based. Prostitutes are the only useful women out there

They are the only one who aren't pretending that bonding with a woman has any mystical value indeed.

 

[Rabbi Schneerson]

If you have to write a paragraph to convince yourself that relationships aren't worth it, whilst not having the ability to get into relationships, what does that sound like to you?

Cope

 

[RegularManlet]

Ask people who are in relationships ? Their life is kind of miserable, always fearing the foid will find a better option, always needing to prove they are still "manly" in bed, and in life in general, but also are castrated and feminist enough to please the sick foid mind. All those contradictory criterias you need to get along with to eventually earn the petty right of somehow be considered by a foid. This is grotesque and tiring.


Meanwhile, you can just fuck the foid of your dreams for a grand and not go through all the bullshit. Where is the cope here ?

Yeah I think some relationships are pretty shit no doubt, I think it also depends on the foid you get with some are more retarded than others.
Your probably right just fucking escorts all the time could work but in a relationship you can experience prolonged company and do activities together introduce her to your parents but it eventually gets shit, perhaps a sexhaver male could try monkeybranch like a foid does, your SMV goes up a little when in a relationship but maybe not enough to consistently monkeybranch once you see your relationship taking a decline

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Women show it constantly that they don't have genuine love towards men. Their idea of love and romance is to just have a guy chase them forever. I don't see women appreciating their boyfriends or husbands, ever. Women even publicly shit on their men, talking about how their boyfriends/husbands have small penises and whatever. Could you imagine a guy telling others that his girlfriend has a smelly pussy or something akin to that? I honestly can't.

And I genuinely believe they don't even love Chad

Giga high IQ.

For Chads I don't know. They do display a lot of affection for them, but again, they are very good at "pretending", so that could just be another act with easier lines.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

prolonged company

That's what we're discussing here. The company they offer is lame.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

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You can't read or you don't know what a cope is, cuck.

 

[RegularManlet]

That's what we're discussing here. The company they offer is lame.

Perhaps, I mean they could be eyecandy lols
The quality of company would certainly decline overtime eventually the foid does not have to do as much effort to keep you around, monkeybranching is feasible for most foids but if you are not chad I am not sure, I have no relationship experience anyway

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Perhaps, I mean they could be eyecandy lols
The quality of company would certainly decline overtime eventually the foid does not have to do as much effort to keep you around, monkeybranching is feasible for most foids but if you are not chad I am not sure, I have no relationship experience anyway

Escorts can by company/eye candy for a day, if that's just what you're looking for. Compared to that, a modern relationship isn't an improvement at all, doesn't offer much more. 80 years ago, it was probably different though.

 

[RegularManlet]

Escorts can by company/eye candy for a day, if that's just what you're looking for. Compared to that, a modern relationship isn't an improvement at all, doesn't offer much more. 80 years ago, it was probably different though.

I have had a dream of taking a trip somewhere with a foid to a low light pollution area to gaze at the stars with her, I feel like such an experience may be more preferable to experience and build on a relationship with a foid rather than an escort.
Idek anymore

 

[just another incel]

In order to make this statement you would first have to know what it feels like to have a girlfriend.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I have had a dream of taking a trip somewhere with a foid to a low light pollution area to gaze at the stars with her, I feel like such an experience may be more preferable to experience and build on a relationship with a foid rather than an escort.
Idek anymore

I mean, keep your dreams bro. May they become true some day. But in truth, those idealized pictures of the couple were made up by Hollywood during the last century. The common man experience of the couple is lame boredom, if not literal torture on a daily basis.

 

[Murder Mario]

We should stop craving for unconditionnal love, that is only something that is briefly given by a mother to a new born.

@Indracel JFL remember when u pointed out even this isn’t entirely true?

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

In order to make this statement you would first have to know what it feels like to have a girlfriend.

Room temperature IQ observation

"So you pretend you know the temperature of the surface of the sun ? Have you walked on it ? Gotcha ! Theory debounked !" tier

plus you haven't read the part where I said I base my post on some sex haver men I know who described their life to me.

 

[RegularManlet]

I mean, keep your dreams bro. May they become true some day. But in truth, those idealized pictures of the couple were made up by Hollywood during the last century. The common man experience of the couple is lame boredom, if not literal torture on a daily basis.

One day I would hope so
There are alot of other things I would like to do so I could stave off the boredom for awhile, it could be idealised hollywood bullshit in my head making me think like this, would have to see in an actual relationship but maybe never anyway. Or maybe at 21 I am running out of time to find a foid that would enjoy experiencing things with me

 

[Friezacel]

I'm still somehow feeling the illusory need for female affection, you know ? I'm not writing that to "convince" myself, I'm just talking from the expérience of other men I know, who actually experienced all that shit. The couple meme merely benefits the foid, that's basically literally why marriage was invented : in order for her to keep her cuck forever by her side under the authority of God. Engagement is not worth it.

Its not an illusory need, its literally a biological need. And if we didnt have that urge to fuck/procreate then humanity literally wouldnt exist anymore

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

One day I would hope so
There are alot of other things I would like to do so I could stave off the boredom for awhile, it could be idealised hollywood bullshit in my head making me think like this, would have to see in an actual relationship but maybe never anyway. Or maybe at 21 I am running out of time to find a foid that would enjoy experiencing things with me

Escape inceldom if you can. I wouldn't wish this fate to my worst enemy. I would have loved to watch the stars with a loving gf at the time too. But now I know I'm too old to have those kind of dreams, and too mentally fucked anyway.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

y a biological need

That foids can't biologically provide. See how that's fucked up ? That's my point.

 

[Friezacel]

That foids can't biologically provide. See how that's fucked up ? That's my point.

They can provide it, just not to sub7 men, who arent even human beings in their eyes

 

[RegularManlet]

Escape inceldom if you can. I wouldn't wish this fate to my worst enemy. I would have loved to watch the stars with a loving gf at the time too. But now I know I'm too old to have those kind of dreams, and too mentally fucked anyway.

I am making an effort to studymaxx and get my drivers license but even when I finish these goals I still have zero friends and no social resources so idk what I am going to do there is not much on the horizon for me

 

[just another incel]

Room temperature IQ observation

"So you pretend you know the temperature of the surface of the sun ? Have you walked on it ? Gotcha ! Theory debounked !" tier

plus you haven't read the part where I said I base my post on some sex haver men I know who described their life to me.

You're still faced with the problem that your friend's feelings are purely subjective. Maybe in his situation certain things would bother you less. Or not at all because you didn't notice them. Maybe it was just the wrong girl. And of course he won't be completely honest and won't admit what he has contributed to certain circumstances that make the experience less quality

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

They can provide it, just not to sub7 men, who arent even human beings in their eyes

So they can't provide it to most men, thus proving my point : for most men, a couple isn't worth it. And for Chads to whom they can provide real love, it is in their interest not to engage with one foid and have several of them at a time. So, for all men, a restricted relationship isn't worth it.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

That said, people want relationships because they want foid validation and affection, not just hooker sex

You're meant to seek "validation" from your male peers, not foids.

Fair enough about affection, but even that used to be extracted partly from male peer relationships too.

Soyciety is so alienated now that the only relationships many men even have is with their foid.

 

[Thaway]

I'm still somehow feeling the illusory need for female affection, you know ? I'm not writing that to "convince" myself, I'm just talking from the expérience of other men I know, who actually experienced all that shit. The couple meme merely benefits the foid, that's basically literally why marriage was invented : in order for her to keep her cuck forever by her side under the authority of God. Engagement is not worth it.

Marriage was "invented" to signal that a foid undoubtly belonged to a guy. Modern marriage is a joke.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

You're meant to seek "validation" from your male peers, not foids.

Fair enough about affection, but even that used to be extracted partly from male peer relationships too.

Soyciety is so alienated now that the only relationships many men even have is with their foid.

They are cucks, sugar daddies and providers. For a man, such a fate isn't worth it. How can you think otherwise ?

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Marriage was "invented" to signal that a foid undoubtly belonged to a guy. Modern marriage is a joke.

And to ensure that the foid would be under the dude protection until his death. Now, there's only one side of this statement that remains true, and it isn't the one favoring men. So a couple, in such dire conditions, isn't worth it.

 

[Friezacel]

So they can't provide it to most men, thus proving my point : for most men, a couple isn't worth it. And for Chads to whom they can provide real love, it is in their interest not to engage with one foid and have several of them at a time. So, for all men, a restricted relationship isn't worth it.

Before feminism most men could get a foid because of enforced monogamy/traditional values.

 

[RandomBroCel]

cope

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Before feminism most men could get a foid because of enforced monogamy/traditional values.

At that time, foids would leech at their man's money, so it wasn't worth it either for the man.

Marriage was invented so that men would engage at some point to protect a foid, or to stop some of them to go ER and rape everything on their way. Nowadays, marriage has been sold to foids as unfashionable while they were the only beneficiaries in that shitty deal. Joke on them I guess.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

cope

Suck your own dick

 

[RandomBroCel]

Suck your own dick

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

 

[Thaway]

And to ensure that the foid would be under the dude protection until his death. Now, there's only one side of this statement that remains true, and it isn't the one favoring men. So a couple, in such dire conditions, isn't worth it.

Hardly, men used to beat their foids if they felt like it. It also has to be looked at from a survival stand point from those times. Women were reliant on their husband, which in return gave him authority. Made him the man of the house. The women had clear tasks to do, clear roles. Cooking, cleaning, washing and most importantly being a baby factory.

I absolutely agree that marriage is completely pointless nowadays. It lost the foundations that once gave it value.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Hardly, men used to beat their foids if they felt like it. It also has to be looked at from a survival stand point from those times. Women were reliant on their husband, which in return gave him authority. Made him the man of the house. The women had clear tasks to do, clear roles. Cooking, cleaning, washing and most importantly being a baby factory.

I absolutely agree that marriage is completely pointless nowadays. It lost the foundations that once gave it value.

 

[Asgard]

No, it is not worth it, OP. Primarly due to female sexual liberation and the huge disparity between men's looks. I've moved on from this topic already, and so everyone else should consider it for their own mind's sake, too.

 

[Asgard]

Most of people need cope to not rope

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

This entire thread is a cope, read every word

Where is there a single molecule of cope here then ?