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Serious Have you taken the OPIOID PILL? It's the SOLUTION to all the pain inherent to the incel condition!

Have you tried opioid agonists, and did they relieve the suffering of inceldom/autism?

  • Yes, I tried opioids and they worked

    Votes: 49 17.3%
  • I tried them BUT they didn't work

    Votes: 22 7.8%
  • Have not tried them

    Votes: 212 74.9%

  • Total voters
    283
The only other measures I'm also taking is to increase dopaminergic tone, and everything else in my life is falling into place (my desire to exercise, try new things, etc. etc.).
Maybe with that I could feel motivation to try things as well, gain experience and self-esteem instead of being a self-loathing larva. It's still sad that I got to consume substances to be able to do what any healthy neurotypical person can do effortlessly.

Anyways, I live in Europe, I'm gonna try to check how I can find these famous "opioids" not necessarily ordering them, just seeing what they can do.
 
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"drugs are bad"
"misogyny is bad"
"racism is bad"
"violence is bad"
"women are good"
"government is truthful"
"live laugh love"
"consume breed die"

:incel:
You know you've really come to freewill and freedom when you bypass those verbal barriers
 
Too bad you can't find real opioids in the U.S anymore. Or if you do, they are taxed to hell and back, due to the insane supply and demand. Almost all of it has been replaced with fentanyl/zenes, which destroy your body and kill you.

That being said, I did happen to get my hands on some legit oxy 5s and 10s for a second back in '21. Never got addicted and barely even think about them, tbh. But during the moments when I was totally throwed off of the pills, HOLY SHIT!

Just the greatest feeling on planet earth. If I were to ever be granted access to nut in my onitus coochie, I'd imagine that being exactly what it felt like, but thrice as intense.

It really did feel like the pleasure I would had gotten with her was manifested in the drugs.
 
I think is complicated, like some mental problems are probably genetic but some others can be solved by actions, and drugs wont take them away. Also, I think supervision is needed no to fall in addiction, self control sometimes is difficult and we are not concious of the consequences of our actions.

Try to combine medical support (with supervision) and solve all aspects of your life that are in your hands. Good luck if this works.
 
That solution is OPIOIDS.

No, no, no.

Not that I have a moral qualm with people doing drugs to cope with their life circumstance. Not at all. I'm not like that.

But absolutely not something to exalt or advocate, no. You might as well advocate suicide. (and opioids do kill people and ruin lives in general.) So I don't morally judge such people. But that doesn't mean I look at this positively. God no.

This is the kind of thing NPC normies and fucking doctors would say to dismiss us. "Oh I see you are unable to find a girlfriend and fulfill your needs for sex and intimacy. Have you tried doing drugs to cope with it, since I don't give a shit?"
 
"drugs are bad"
"misogyny is bad"
"racism is bad"
"violence is bad"
"women are good"
"government is truthful"
"live laugh love"
"consume breed die"

:incel:

The ruling-class and government wants people to be on drugs, if anything...what do you think, the rulers prefer a populace more likely to revolt, or one sedated with drugs? There's certainly nothing rebellious about doing drugs, at least you'd have to concede that. Needless to say there is nothing rebellious about the "drugs are bad" "don't do drugs, kids" angle, either. (but, maybe there is something to be said for remaining sober and unplacated and protesting the condition they've put us in, instead of just sedating yourself.)

And also they profit massively from the drug trades, illegal and legal. (especially in Latin America but also around the world) You have to understand how it's contradictory. It's like yes, obviously the government, CIA, FBI and media, propaganda/educational institutions promoted "Winners Don't Do Drugs," etc. but the CIA also flooded ghettos with crack in the 1980s. (at the same time the money gained from this was used to fund the Contra armies in Nicaragua — that's how interrelated all this is.) They're utterly hypocritical and contradictory and the best part is they get away with this and this shit works.
 
just took some codeine
 
Heroin has worked wonders for me. It is basically an artificial replacement for cuddling. But it is not enough in itself.

For me the real magic happens with crack or methamphetamine. Synthetic stimulants make you feel as manly as Pablo, as good looking as Chico, they give you the motivation of a CEO, they are just an all around solution for inceldom/subhumanism. Heroin (or any opioids) is a nice add on.

For me opioids and stimulants saved my life. I was on the verge of suicide and would get severe panic attacks from the loneliness, because deep inside I knew I d never have a foid thirst for me like they did for my tall and/or chad friends. But once I tried opioids and stimulants, then I knew that I have the ability to artificially create the state of mind that a Chad naturally has.

Is it a delusion? Yes of course

Do they have with severe consequences? Absolutely, they destroy your health eventually and if you are not careful you can end up homeless (been there done that)

Will you be forever dependent on them? Yes because once you feel what a chad naturally feels you cannot go back to feeling like a subhuman

But without drugs I would have killed myself, now I am alive and I am handling life decently. So for me, they are a viable solution.

But if you don't know what you are getting into, be careful. It takes a lot of experience to handle these properly and not end up in a madhouse or homeless (done both) or even worse in prison
 
Heroin has worked wonders for me. It is basically an artificial replacement for cuddling. But it is not enough in itself.

For me the real magic happens with crack or methamphetamine. Synthetic stimulants make you feel as manly as Pablo, as good looking as Chico, they give you the motivation of a CEO, they are just an all around solution for inceldom/subhumanism. Heroin (or any opioids) is a nice add on.

For me opioids and stimulants saved my life. I was on the verge of suicide and would get severe panic attacks from the loneliness, because deep inside I knew I d never have a foid thirst for me like they did for my tall and/or chad friends. But once I tried opioids and stimulants, then I knew that I have the ability to artificially create the state of mind that a Chad naturally has.

Is it a delusion? Yes of course

Do they have with severe consequences? Absolutely, they destroy your health eventually and if you are not careful you can end up homeless (been there done that)

Will you be forever dependent on them? Yes because once you feel what a chad naturally feels you cannot go back to feeling like a subhuman

But without drugs I would have killed myself, now I am alive and I am handling life decently. So for me, they are a viable solution.

But if you don't know what you are getting into, be careful. It takes a lot of experience to handle these properly and not end up in a madhouse or homeless (done both) or even worse in prison
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I never had access to drugs.

An acquaintance let me smoke his weed freely one afternoon but that's my whole total lifetime exposure to drugs.
 
I haven't tried opioids, although I have tried other hard drugs like crystal meth. Highly recommended if you struggle with mental lethargy and concentration problems.
 
Becoming a junkie is going to solve all of your problems, goys ! - Goldman Steinbaum.
 
feds trying to destroy the incel community with drugs like they did to niggers in the 80s
 
Nah, I've no access to drugs. Max I've done is a little weed
 
If you're an incel or an autist, this whole opioid system gets fucked up because you never got to develop it. You are a fool if you don't treat it with exogenous opioids and suffer pain for nothing.
this makes too much sense, you are to blame if i start taking drugs and develop an addiction
 
All opoids are illegal without prescription where I live (a ricecel in Canada).
 
99% of drugs i researched cause
1. Tolerance. The effects will at some point totally stop working.
"b-b-but then just do a t-break!!" No. This bring us to the next point:
2. Withdrawal. Basically the opposite of the high. You can't get pleasure from drugs and not pay it with pain. You can't take pleasure surplus with drugs.
3. Extra: Permanent brain damage. More or less serious. Even caffeine cause brain damage to some extent, affecting your motivation or how you feel pleasure
 
99% of drugs i researched cause
1. Tolerance. The effects will at some point totally stop working.
"b-b-but then just do a t-break!!" No. This bring us to the next point:
2. Withdrawal. Basically the opposite of the high. You can't get pleasure from drugs and not pay it with pain. You can't take pleasure surplus with drugs.
3. Extra: Permanent brain damage. More or less serious. Even caffeine cause brain damage to some extent, affecting your motivation or how you feel pleasure
1. You can do a tolerance break, literally you can. There also are studies which show that NMDA-antagonism can either slow down the development of an opioid tolerance, or block it (which I myself find unlikely; the blocking; but definitely am sure that it can effectively slow down a development of tolerance significantly); https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9463786/
2. Yeah, you get withdrawal if you do it suddenly, without slowly decreasing the intake of x opioid. This will happen in any case, even with Caffeine, nicotine, you get it.
3. Brain damage definitely is a reasonable worry when talking about potent opioids, but is pretty much limited to excessive abuse of opioids. Not to low-moderate dosages taken long-term. Also it's very important for youths, for sure even a long-term opioid intake in a developing brain can very likely take it's toll on it's functionality.
edit: Which I also may add is Tianeptine. An atypical antidepressant, which also binds to the mu opioid receptor significantly at therapeutic dosages. It obviously works through more mechanisms than just the opioid system, but used therapeutically it has not caused brain damage, and still has high value in terms of pharmaceutical therapy in, usually, treatment-resistant depression.
 
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1. easy to read, you are completely misunderstanding in purpose the easy text i wrote. the point is that tolerance breaks are useless as the withdrawal make you pay with the same amount of pain as the pleasure in your high.
 
1. easy to read, you are completely misunderstanding in purpose the easy text i wrote. the point is that tolerance breaks are useless as the withdrawal make you pay with the same amount of pain as the pleasure in your high.
The point OP is making is not about getting high off of opioids. gj ignoring my whole post tho.
 
Drugs are the reason my mental issues are perpetually worse or have worsened. There is no escape from suffering, drugs are escapism that isn't addressing the issue, it's band aiding. That is all.
 
Drugs are the reason my mental issues are perpetually worse or have worsened. There is no escape from suffering, drugs are escapism that isn't addressing the issue, it's band aiding. That is all.
It sure as hell isn't a fix, and that's where a lot of people start getting issues with psychoactive substances. Thinking it's a direct fix for everything. Individuals with ADHD take psychostimulants for years without getting addicted or making their life worse. Even though their pharmacologic effects are on par with e.g. Methamphetamine, Cocaine etc.
 
It sure as hell isn't a fix, and that's where a lot of people start getting issues with psychoactive substances. Thinking it's a direct fix for everything. Individuals with ADHD take psychostimulants for years without getting addicted or making their life worse. Even though their pharmacologic effects are on par with e.g. Methamphetamine, Cocaine etc.
As someone who was dexamphetamines from the age 9 I completely agree with you. My brain never had a chance to develop properly. I stopped taking around age 15-16 and went straight into marijuana use and binge drinking. It wasn't until about my mid 20s I realised this has to stop. It all had to stop. If I ever want mental peace, or at the very least actual REAL clarity I have to. I'm also addicted to cigarettes now. All it did for me was make my brain codependent on drugs instead of living in reality.
 
As someone who was dexamphetamines from the age 9 I completely agree with you. My brain never had a chance to develop properly. I stopped taking around age 15-16 and went straight into marijuana use and binge drinking. It wasn't until about my mid 20s I realised this has to stop. It all had to stop. If I ever want mental peace, or at the very least actual REAL clarity I have to. I'm also addicted to cigarettes now. All it did for me was make my brain codependent on drugs instead of living in reality.
I genuinely doubt that you were not "living in reality" because of amphetamine treatment. Although I do genuinely not think that children as young as 9 should be treated with as strong medication as Amphetamines. ADHD also often is diagnosed very easily, simply because doctors get easy shekels out of it.

But you completely ignored the part where I wrote: "Also it's very important for youths" in my comment. The fact that you also went straight into marihuana usage and excessive alcohol consumption definitely does not stem solely from D-amphetamine treatment.
 
I genuinely doubt that you were not "living in reality" because of amphetamine treatment. Although I do genuinely not think that children as young as 9 should be treated with as strong medication as Amphetamines. ADHD also often is diagnosed very easily, simply because doctors get easy shekels out of it.

But you completely ignored the part where I wrote: "Also it's very important for youths" in my comment. The fact that you also went straight into marihuana usage and excessive alcohol consumption definitely does not stem solely from D-amphetamine treatment.

I don't think I needed them. I was a very misunderstood child that was neglected by my parents and physically assaulted by my father. I think the further use of drugs was because of mental trauma and escapism of reality. Plus, I'm short and ugly and here so there is that too. Never had a chance. Maybe I can rewrite my books. I'm trying to.
 
I don't think I needed them. I was a very misunderstood child that was neglected by my parents and physically assaulted by my father. I think the further use of drugs was because of mental trauma and escapism of reality. Plus, I'm short and ugly and here so there is that too. Never had a chance. Maybe I can rewrite my books. I'm trying to.
Then there's, as I mentioned in my response, way more to it. Just like I said, I mentioned that a lot of children are misdiagnosed, misunderstood etc.
 
But it turns out, as I have found and spoken of previously, there is a DIRECT solution to all this that can stabilize you, remove your depression and heartache, and restore your hedonic tone (enable you to truly ENJOY life unlike psychiatric jewpills which simply numb you and make you a permanently impotent vegetable).

That solution is OPIOIDS. For they treat not only physical pain, but acute mental pain too! And it's more profound that even that...
Could explain why many people use alcohol to cope with loneliness. When alcohol is consumed, it releases endogenous opoids in the brain, having a similar effect. Not saying that you should use alcohol for this reason.
 
you can feel this instantly with 7-oh pills which are available at the gas station anywhere in america. The feeling reminds me of alcohol, where I don’t care about anything. There is also a relaxing feeling to it whereas alcohol makes me feel stimulated.

Overall, it is like kratom on crack (feels like roxys, morphine, etc.) If you are prone to addiction issues, do NOT try it !!
 
I abused some synthetic opi from China called metonitazene. Prepared a vape solution with it. Went through 3g of the stuff in 5 months My final dose was 10x the initial one. Ran out of the stuff and went into withdrawal cold turkey. 7 days of no sleep, going through a constant panic attack. Sleep was shit for a month, premature ejaculation (3 strokes max, sometimes even 1!) for months, went back to baseline in 6 months. Had arrythmia or something for around 3 months too. Would be laying, sitting, or walking and I would feel my heart skip a beat and feel weak and light headed for a split second. I could not do any more strenuous exercise. I was using 4 times a day and did nothing other than lay down and sleep. Lost 30-35kg, I barely ate, puked many times, but those were happy pukes, when you're high you don't give a fuck. It was really rare and hard to take a shit. Extremely hard to pee, I would be standing in front of the toilet for 30min waiting to go. Sometimes my stomach would be empty and still I would get this extreme gag reflex where my larynx or whatever would collapse and I would feel it becoming flat.
Overall a positive experience, felt happy for the first time since I was a child, or maybe ever. Lost weight. Managed to fast forward a few months of my shitty life. I would say the withdrawal was worth it. I would totally have roped if not for this drug.
Also when on opis you get some wild dreams that feel very vivid and complex, almost like a movie.
I might get back into it, been thinking a lot about it recently (after 4 years clean) There's this experimental drug SR17018, if I recall correctly, that blocks opioid withdrawal while still lowering your tolerance as if you went cold turkey. I read some reports online from some junkies saying it worked, although I'm wary cause it seems too good to be true.
 
i’ve taken tramadol a few times and it works somewhat, being an SNRI as well also helps as it has an antidepressant effect and the opioid effect
 
Can't try opioids because of dumb gov
 
Many incels and autists display "personality disordered" traits of BPD and narcissism, which is often used by our detractors to say we're bad people. But it is obvious to anyone with cursory knowledge into Cluster B personality disorders that they are post-traumatic conditions, which derive from severe social problems during childhood and adolescence.

If you're an autist with no capacity to successfully socially bond, for example, it is only natural that your psychology will be affected by this as you try to shield your psyche from intense pain and shame spurring from social/romantic rejection and ostracism. Hence compensatory grandiosity, rejection sensitivity, violent revenge fantasies, and all the rest.

But it turns out, as I have found and spoken of previously, there is a DIRECT solution to all this that can stabilize you, remove your depression and heartache, and restore your hedonic tone (enable you to truly ENJOY life unlike psychiatric jewpills which simply numb you and make you a permanently impotent vegetable).

That solution is OPIOIDS. For they treat not only physical pain, but acute mental pain too! And it's more profound that even that...

A lot has been spoken about the role of oxytocin in social bonding and love, but endogenous opioids seem to be the master chemical in the body/brain regulating these things, and oxytocin is only secondary to it, if anything.

I can testify to the fact that everything I crave in terms of social attachment is given to me by the use of opioid agonists. They both fill in the hole in my soul (removing the background BPD emptiness and pain/shame which is a consequence of protracted social alienation) and make social engagement feel good (give me prosocial feelings in lieu of my usual asocial, avoidant self).

If you're an incel and suffering from chronic loneliness, you ought to try opioid agonists. Kratom is an easy one to start with. If it works for you, move onto to stronger and longer lasting ones, but KEEP THE DOSE LOW and do not abuse them. This is because you have to realize that your body and brain is starved of opioids right now, so a little will go a long way towards making you feel good. Taking too much will only fuck up your opioid system more and result in worse emotional tumult, guaranteed. Treat it like a medicine.

With my knowledge of opioids, I have been able to use one certain opioid agonist daily, and reduce my dose BY MORE THAN HALF since I started taking it, successfully treating my depression SUSTAINABLY for the first time ever. The only other measures I'm also taking is to increase dopaminergic tone, and everything else in my life is falling into place (my desire to exercise, try new things, etc. etc.).
Yes. This and Adderall are the way when taken responsibly.
 
:lul:

I've literally achieved stability on a low dose of an opioid agonist which is sustainably treating my depression and anxiety, with no dosage escalation. Just the opposite, in fact. I have absolutely no tolerance issues and have REDUCED my dosage to the point where I no longer feel any high from it -- just the therapeutic benefits.

Just because some retards can't control themselves and OD on fent presses, doesn't mean that you can reduce me to the lowest common denominator. I am smarter than some retarded homeless person injecting heroin into their last remaining dick vein, and I am sharing my wisdom here for the benefit of my brocels who are in pain.


This is not about getting high but using opioids THERAPEUTICALLY in very low doses.

There is definitely a subset of people with pronounced BPD traits (BPD = endogenous opioid system disorder) who will be cured by opioids...
There is truth to what he is saying.
 
Many incels and autists display "personality disordered" traits of BPD and narcissism, which is often used by our detractors to say we're bad people. But it is obvious to anyone with cursory knowledge into Cluster B personality disorders that they are post-traumatic conditions, which derive from severe social problems during childhood and adolescence.

If you're an autist with no capacity to successfully socially bond, for example, it is only natural that your psychology will be affected by this as you try to shield your psyche from intense pain and shame spurring from social/romantic rejection and ostracism. Hence compensatory grandiosity, rejection sensitivity, violent revenge fantasies, and all the rest.

But it turns out, as I have found and spoken of previously, there is a DIRECT solution to all this that can stabilize you, remove your depression and heartache, and restore your hedonic tone (enable you to truly ENJOY life unlike psychiatric jewpills which simply numb you and make you a permanently impotent vegetable).

That solution is OPIOIDS. For they treat not only physical pain, but acute mental pain too! And it's more profound that even that...

A lot has been spoken about the role of oxytocin in social bonding and love, but endogenous opioids seem to be the master chemical in the body/brain regulating these things, and oxytocin is only secondary to it, if anything.

I can testify to the fact that everything I crave in terms of social attachment is given to me by the use of opioid agonists. They both fill in the hole in my soul (removing the background BPD emptiness and pain/shame which is a consequence of protracted social alienation) and make social engagement feel good (give me prosocial feelings in lieu of my usual asocial, avoidant self).

If you're an incel and suffering from chronic loneliness, you ought to try opioid agonists. Kratom is an easy one to start with. If it works for you, move onto to stronger and longer lasting ones, but KEEP THE DOSE LOW and do not abuse them. This is because you have to realize that your body and brain is starved of opioids right now, so a little will go a long way towards making you feel good. Taking too much will only fuck up your opioid system more and result in worse emotional tumult, guaranteed. Treat it like a medicine.

With my knowledge of opioids, I have been able to use one certain opioid agonist daily, and reduce my dose BY MORE THAN HALF since I started taking it, successfully treating my depression SUSTAINABLY for the first time ever. The only other measures I'm also taking is to increase dopaminergic tone, and everything else in my life is falling into place (my desire to exercise, try new things, etc. etc.).
They work- opioids work. Keep your dose and tolerance low at like 1-3 pills a day and you’re fine.
 
I heard that they can give you suicidal thoughts. Or make you numb. Id rather be the crazy myself than to be controlled by sideeffects
 

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